Guest guest Posted November 2, 2000 Report Share Posted November 2, 2000 Zenker <zhands@p...> wrote: > > What I have found after using Counter Tension Kinetics (CTK), a > > process of impulsive kinetic chain co-active loading for about 4 > > months, I wasn't pronated any more. Matt Madsen <mmadsen@y...> commented: > Could you give an example of this " CTK " process for flat feet? I > wouldn't mind giving it a try... CTK is not a cookbook prescription as many rehabilitation " exercises " have become. I you lined up 20 people with pronation and then functionally evaluate and load them, you might come up with 20 variations leading to the same theme. A common finding with pronated people is genu rectuvarum (locked backed knees)or heels on the floor syndrome. This is a common denominator with almost all postural syndromes. With out an adequate tension chain from torso to toe the arch tension softens. The heelload and hamload will be on the following site: http://functionalgolf.com ...on Monday as gif motion files(so says Tom & Drew). You can see if you can own it for yourself. They are part of an interactive, CD, video that we are currently working on for golf swing phase drills to accelerate motor learning of the golf swing) CTK is not a cookbook method to satisfy insurance code diagnostics. Flat feet is a symptom and its resolution a side effect of training elastic tension integration for the individual. I have a hard time saying that, this and that is good for that, because it bastardizes the real intent of the training and learning. e-mail me if you can't get loaded properly; motor intent is crucial to getting it, a peak response. Regards A. Zenker D.C. Performance Edge Dynamics www.functionalgolf.com Santa Cruz CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2000 Report Share Posted November 2, 2000 zhands@... wrote: > Matt Madsen <mmadsen@y...> commented: > > Could you give an example of this " CTK " process for flat feet? I > > wouldn't mind giving it a try... > > > CTK is not a cookbook prescription as many rehabilitation > " exercises " have become. I you lined up 20 people with pronation > and then functionally evaluate and load them, you might come up > with 20 variations leading to the same theme. Perfectly understandable. Could you walk us through one such scenario? Maybe you could use your own situation. I'd just like something concrete to visualize. Matt Madsen __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2000 Report Share Posted November 2, 2000 Zenker<zhands@...> wrote: > With out an adequate tension chain from torso to toe the arch > tension softens. The heelload and hamload will be on the following > site: > > http://functionalgolf.com > > ..on Monday as gif motion files(so says Tom & Drew). You can see if > you can own it for yourself. I think I've found the specific page: <http://functionalgolf.com/health_feature_02.htm> I can't quite make out what's going on in the animated GIF, but the text describes the exercise: Start off slowly (isometric) building tension in the following sequence: 1. Behind the knee 2. Foot 3. Lower buttock (sphincter squeeze) 4. Thighs and calves 5. Pelvis/hip 6. Lower back and abdomen 7. Don't allow the hip to move up (push down with the fist) 8. Don't overdo So you're supposed to isometrically contract (oh, there's that weird use of " contract " again) those body-parts in that order? Matt Madsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2000 Report Share Posted November 3, 2000 Zenker: <<Again- On Monday go to <http://www.functionalgolf.com>, try the ham load and heel load, there are gif motion graphics with discriptions, if you see the picture it will help with the visual-motor loop. The key is to peak the tension from torso to toe, progressively.>> You gotta be kidding me! Burkhardt Strength and Conditioning Coach UC Irvine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2000 Report Share Posted November 3, 2000 ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Madsen Zenker D.C. wrote: Start off slowly (isometric) building tension in the following sequence: 1. Behind the knee 2. Foot 3. Lower buttock (sphincter squeeze) 4. Thighs and calves 5. Pelvis/hip 6. Lower back and abdomen 7. Don't allow the hip to move up (push down with the fist) 8. Don't overdo Casler of BIO-FORCE asks: What could possibly be meant by " sphincter squeeze " ? and what does it have to do with the isometric tensioning of the " lower buttock " ? Matt Madsen wrote: So you're supposed to isometrically contract (oh, there's that weird use of " contract " again) those body-parts in that order? Casler of BIO-FORCE writes: Hey Matt, you did remember! (Isometrically Tensioning works for me) Regards, A. Casler BIO-FORCE, Inc. " Sweat Happens " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2000 Report Share Posted November 3, 2000 " Sphincter Squeeze " Perhaps it is a Kegel exercise (commonly used by women after childbirth). Wasn't aware that I needed to do Kegels .... Is this some kind of exercise like you do in prison??? JoeL -----Original Message----- From: bioforce [mailto:bioforce.inc@...] From: Matt Madsen Zenker D.C. wrote: Start off slowly (isometric) building tension in the following sequence: 1. Behind the knee 2. Foot 3. Lower buttock (sphincter squeeze) 4. Thighs and calves 5. Pelvis/hip 6. Lower back and abdomen 7. Don't allow the hip to move up (push down with the fist) 8. Don't overdo Casler of BIO-FORCE asks: What could possibly be meant by " sphincter squeeze " ? and what does it have to do with the isometric tensioning of the " lower buttock " ? Matt Madsen wrote: So you're supposed to isometrically contract (oh, there's that weird use of " contract " again) those body-parts in that order? Casler of BIO-FORCE writes: Hey Matt, you did remember! (Isometrically Tensioning works for me) Regards, A. Casler BIO-FORCE, Inc. " Sweat Happens " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2000 Report Share Posted November 3, 2000 Re: Counter Tension Kinetics? Matt Madsen commented: <Could you give an example of this " CTK " process for flat feet? I wouldn't mind giving it a try...> Zenker wrote: > > CTK is not a cookbook prescription as many rehabilitation > > " exercises " have become. I you lined up 20 people with pronation > > and then functionally evaluate and load them, you might come up > > with 20 variations leading to the same theme. Matt Madsen wrote: > Perfectly understandable. Could you walk us through one such > scenario? Maybe you could use your own situation. I'd just like > something concrete to visualize. Casler of BIO-FORCE writes: , you now have a chance to " detail " some of your theory as an application. I too would like to understand just what CTK is but your " it is many unexplainable things to many people " retort does not help us get the picture. Zenker wote: Again- On Monday go to <http://www.functionalgolf.com>, try the ham load and heel load, there are gif motion graphics with discriptions, if you see the picture it will help with the visual-motor loop. The key is to peak the tension from torso to toe, progressively. A Casler of BIO-FORCE writes: I went to the above site and found the following: Zenker site: " Training muscles together rather than in isolation better engrains timing patterns into " muscle memory " . " Casler: What is meant here by " muscle memory " ? Zenker site: " Counter Tension Kinetics connects and trains the deep timing patterns essential to the golf swing " Casler: What are " deep timing patterns " ? Zenker site: " Just as a perfectly timed golf swing boosts your energy levels the goal of CTK is the same " . Casler: How does a " perfectly timed golf swing " or CTK boost your energy levels? Zenker Site: " The key to this pattern is to load and activate all the muscles from your lower torso down to your toes together and build the tension progressively; until you experience an energetic almost electrical peak feedback response. I call it a Harmonic Boom " . " Casler: How can you have a " Harmonic Boom " by just activating the " lower torso down " out of " Harmony " with the upper body in a full body activity like a golf swing? Zenker wrote: Also if you re-read some of my posts you will get a better understanding, possibly my last post. Casler of BIO-FORCE writes: Reading and re-reading your posts is not sufficient for me to grasp what it is you are driving at. Is it that you see a dynamic kinesthetic homogenization (I'm really trying here) in all activities that needs to be addressed and acknowledged? An integrated dynamic support/activation that is supported even to the molecular level? Or are you re-discovering (at a quantum level) that for every action we have re-action? Counter Tension Kinetics = Balanced Force Dynamics???? (not on Mel's list) Am I getting thermally accurate (warm)? Is this geographically/ideologically precise (close)? I do not " grok " in fullness. Regards, A. Casler BIO-FORCE, Inc. Los Angeles, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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