Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Theresa your wish has been fulfilled Please check jeff I've stopped 18,701 spam and fraud messages. You can too! Free trial of spam and fraud protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/sig/? Re: APRIL SWAP CHANGE!!!! > Last time http://www.mmvorder.com/flyerwebform.pdf I TOOK A LOOK AT THIS FLYER AND NOTICED THAT THE TIME IS WRONG!!!! IT IS NOW 11 AM TO 3 PM!!!!!! THAT WOULD PUT THE LECTURE TIME AT NOON!! EVERYONE PLEASE MAKE NOT OF THIS AND CHANGE ANY FLYERS THAT MAY NEED CHANGING PLEASE!!! THERESE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Joe can you fix the one on trade foods site? Jeff Grotte I've stopped 18,701 spam and fraud messages. You can too! Free trial of spam and fraud protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/sig/? Re: APRIL SWAP CHANGE!!!! > Last time http://www.mmvorder.com/flyerwebform.pdf I TOOK A LOOK AT THIS FLYER AND NOTICED THAT THE TIME IS WRONG!!!! IT IS NOW 11 AM TO 3 PM!!!!!! THAT WOULD PUT THE LECTURE TIME AT NOON!! EVERYONE PLEASE MAKE NOT OF THIS AND CHANGE ANY FLYERS THAT MAY NEED CHANGING PLEASE!!! THERESE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 > Last time http://www.mmvorder.com/flyerwebform.pdf I TOOK A LOOK AT THIS FLYER AND NOTICED THAT THE TIME IS WRONG!!!! IT IS NOW 11 AM TO 3 PM!!!!!! THAT WOULD PUT THE LECTURE TIME AT NOON!! EVERYONE PLEASE MAKE NOT OF THIS AND CHANGE ANY FLYERS THAT MAY NEED CHANGING PLEASE!!! THERESE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 > > > Last time http://www.mmvorder.com/flyerwebform.pdf > > I TOOK A LOOK AT THIS FLYER AND NOTICED THAT THE TIME IS WRONG!!!! I changed it. Too many details to keep track of, I guess. ~Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Sorry I missed this one jeff I've stopped 18,728 spam and fraud messages. You can too! Free trial of spam and fraud protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/sig/? Re: APRIL SWAP CHANGE!!!! > > > Last time http://www.mmvorder.com/flyerwebform.pdf > > I TOOK A LOOK AT THIS FLYER AND NOTICED THAT THE TIME IS WRONG!!!! I changed it. Too many details to keep track of, I guess. ~Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 > I changed it. Too many details to keep track of, I guess. Joe, Thanks for doing that. I wasn't complaining.... I just wanted to get the word out so that no one comes at the wrong time or anything!! Hope to see ALL of you and some of your family and friends at the next swap!! Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 , > > Thanks for doing that. I wasn't complaining.... I just wanted to get the > word out so that no one comes at the wrong time or anything!! I know, Therese. ) It's just been a difficult week all around. Actually I'm glad you mentioned it because it also says the lecture was at 1am. I doubt Chaunce would want to be up that late (or that early) to give his presentation. ;o) ~Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Hello Group, I am considering coming down for the food swap, but I hven't been that impressed with this groups' attitude toward Minnesota Grown products and direct connections to local farms. Seems like whats most popular or convenient gets your attention. We are full-time farmers in central MN and taking a day away from " work " takes some real effort and planning. It costs us $15 an hour to have part-time help do our chores- not because we pay individuals that much, but it takes two people to do our regular job. I enjoy spending time at local farmers markets with information and great values for educated consumers. It energizes me! If you want the farm connection at these swaps- you need to support that idea, before the swap and during. Alvin More farm info @ www.mnorganiceggs.com inishglora <inishglora@...> wrote: , > > Thanks for doing that. I wasn't complaining.... I just wanted to get the > word out so that no one comes at the wrong time or anything!! I know, Therese. ) It's just been a difficult week all around. Actually I'm glad you mentioned it because it also says the lecture was at 1am. I doubt Chaunce would want to be up that late (or that early) to give his presentation. ;o) ~Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 > > Hello Group, > I am considering coming down for the food swap, but I hven't been that impressed with this groups' attitude toward Minnesota Grown products and direct connections to local farms. Yes, Alvin, I remember you saying the exact same thing practically the day you arrived at this group. I'd hoped you had changed your mind in the meantime, from participating in the discussions. Since you probably haven't met anyone here, or seen what we do at swaps, I have to say it's very insulting to hear this from you. I am not a farmer and can't know how difficult it is to do such a difficult job, but I can appreciate it enough to want to give our locals my business and keep my money in the local economy. Furthermore, Therese and I (as well as others) have worked hard to include local farmers at our swaps so we can give them our business both there and at the markets. Essentially, I find your attitude toward us pretty demeaning, particularly since you don't even know us except thru email. Why don't you try actually attending a swap and THEN tell us how unimpressed you are. ~Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Alvin, I disagree with you here. I know I search hard and far to get locally grown foods. I long for summer and all the wonderful farmer markets. I buy from local merchants at those for the most part, as I do not want to give my money elsewhere if I can avoid it. I will admit though, roses are often not locally grown but I sure can not pass them up! LOL. My hubby and I bought a quarter beef from a family farm in southern MN this fall and have been enjoying it all winter so far. I grow much of our veggies and can/freeze them. I pick strawberries from local farmers, apples are given from a friends tree a few miles from my home. I buy my cucumbers from the farmer down the road for our pickles. I also grow my own herbs and make my own ketchup. Oh, my grains I get are local grown too. Now, do I go around and announce it all the time, heavens no. I just do it. I also know many on the list, and I will dare to say, the majority on list, also buy mostly locally grown. I think it is assumed here that local is best. Now, do we say each and every time we get a local product, no. Is it necessary to do this, no, but I know we happily share when we find a new local farmer whose products we are able to get and are of good quality. I know I have always thought that concessions here on MNTF was that we buy locally when ever we can. I will say though, I figure local for me anything with in a 2 hour drive. I do travel 2 hours one way for my milk that I get in Wisconsin. I still consider them local. When I am visiting with my daughter in La Crosse WI, I buy locally there too! There is the sweetest 75 year old lady who raises bees and I buy honey from her. Should I not do this because she is not a Minnesotan? Sorry if you are offended at my buying honey from a little old lady because she is not a part of MN farmers group. I think she needs my money more as she is on a very fixed income. Kimi ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.Jremedies.com Why is it that our children can't read a Bible in school, but they can in prison? Re: APRIL SWAP CHANGE!!!! Hello Group, I am considering coming down for the food swap, but I hven't been that impressed with this groups' attitude toward Minnesota Grown products and direct connections to local farms. Seems like whats most popular or convenient gets your attention. We are full-time farmers in central MN and taking a day away from " work " takes some real effort and planning. It costs us $15 an hour to have part-time help do our chores- not because we pay individuals that much, but it takes two people to do our regular job. I enjoy spending time at local farmers markets with information and great values for educated consumers. It energizes me! If you want the farm connection at these swaps- you need to support that idea, before the swap and during. Alvin More farm info @ www.mnorganiceggs.com inishglora <inishglora@...> wrote: , > > Thanks for doing that. I wasn't complaining.... I just wanted to get the > word out so that no one comes at the wrong time or anything!! I know, Therese. ) It's just been a difficult week all around. Actually I'm glad you mentioned it because it also says the lecture was at 1am. I doubt Chaunce would want to be up that late (or that early) to give his presentation. ;o) ~Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Alvin Were you at the last swap? Jeff Grotte I've stopped 18,757 spam and fraud messages. You can too! Free trial of spam and fraud protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/sig/? Re: APRIL SWAP CHANGE!!!! Dear Group, I am not compaining about the business that you do in our direction. I've got more market than I have product. My concern is that if you don't promote and support the farmers that may come to your swap- You're missing the point. I understand that it's all good fun to gather and talk about your lives and such, but the bottom line is we're all sourcing good food. Building those connections should be a priority along with thanking the organizers for their enormous contribution. Alvin Kimi <kwolffden@...> wrote: Alvin, I disagree with you here. I know I search hard and far to get locally grown foods. I long for summer and all the wonderful farmer markets. I buy from local merchants at those for the most part, as I do not want to give my money elsewhere if I can avoid it. I will admit though, roses are often not locally grown but I sure can not pass them up! LOL. My hubby and I bought a quarter beef from a family farm in southern MN this fall and have been enjoying it all winter so far. I grow much of our veggies and can/freeze them. I pick strawberries from local farmers, apples are given from a friends tree a few miles from my home. I buy my cucumbers from the farmer down the road for our pickles. I also grow my own herbs and make my own ketchup. Oh, my grains I get are local grown too. Now, do I go around and announce it all the time, heavens no. I just do it. I also know many on the list, and I will dare to say, the majority on list, also buy mostly locally grown. I think it is assumed here that local is best. Now, do we say each and every time we get a local product, no. Is it necessary to do this, no, but I know we happily share when we find a new local farmer whose products we are able to get and are of good quality. I know I have always thought that concessions here on MNTF was that we buy locally when ever we can. I will say though, I figure local for me anything with in a 2 hour drive. I do travel 2 hours one way for my milk that I get in Wisconsin. I still consider them local. When I am visiting with my daughter in La Crosse WI, I buy locally there too! There is the sweetest 75 year old lady who raises bees and I buy honey from her. Should I not do this because she is not a Minnesotan? Sorry if you are offended at my buying honey from a little old lady because she is not a part of MN farmers group. I think she needs my money more as she is on a very fixed income. Kimi ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.Jremedies.com Why is it that our children can't read a Bible in school, but they can in prison? Re: APRIL SWAP CHANGE!!!! Hello Group, I am considering coming down for the food swap, but I hven't been that impressed with this groups' attitude toward Minnesota Grown products and direct connections to local farms. Seems like whats most popular or convenient gets your attention. We are full-time farmers in central MN and taking a day away from " work " takes some real effort and planning. It costs us $15 an hour to have part-time help do our chores- not because we pay individuals that much, but it takes two people to do our regular job. I enjoy spending time at local farmers markets with information and great values for educated consumers. It energizes me! If you want the farm connection at these swaps- you need to support that idea, before the swap and during. Alvin More farm info @ www.mnorganiceggs.com inishglora <inishglora@...> wrote: , > > Thanks for doing that. I wasn't complaining.... I just wanted to get the > word out so that no one comes at the wrong time or anything!! I know, Therese. ) It's just been a difficult week all around. Actually I'm glad you mentioned it because it also says the lecture was at 1am. I doubt Chaunce would want to be up that late (or that early) to give his presentation. ;o) ~Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Dear Group, I am not compaining about the business that you do in our direction. I've got more market than I have product. My concern is that if you don't promote and support the farmers that may come to your swap- You're missing the point. I understand that it's all good fun to gather and talk about your lives and such, but the bottom line is we're all sourcing good food. Building those connections should be a priority along with thanking the organizers for their enormous contribution. Alvin Kimi <kwolffden@...> wrote: Alvin, I disagree with you here. I know I search hard and far to get locally grown foods. I long for summer and all the wonderful farmer markets. I buy from local merchants at those for the most part, as I do not want to give my money elsewhere if I can avoid it. I will admit though, roses are often not locally grown but I sure can not pass them up! LOL. My hubby and I bought a quarter beef from a family farm in southern MN this fall and have been enjoying it all winter so far. I grow much of our veggies and can/freeze them. I pick strawberries from local farmers, apples are given from a friends tree a few miles from my home. I buy my cucumbers from the farmer down the road for our pickles. I also grow my own herbs and make my own ketchup. Oh, my grains I get are local grown too. Now, do I go around and announce it all the time, heavens no. I just do it. I also know many on the list, and I will dare to say, the majority on list, also buy mostly locally grown. I think it is assumed here that local is best. Now, do we say each and every time we get a local product, no. Is it necessary to do this, no, but I know we happily share when we find a new local farmer whose products we are able to get and are of good quality. I know I have always thought that concessions here on MNTF was that we buy locally when ever we can. I will say though, I figure local for me anything with in a 2 hour drive. I do travel 2 hours one way for my milk that I get in Wisconsin. I still consider them local. When I am visiting with my daughter in La Crosse WI, I buy locally there too! There is the sweetest 75 year old lady who raises bees and I buy honey from her. Should I not do this because she is not a Minnesotan? Sorry if you are offended at my buying honey from a little old lady because she is not a part of MN farmers group. I think she needs my money more as she is on a very fixed income. Kimi ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.Jremedies.com Why is it that our children can't read a Bible in school, but they can in prison? Re: APRIL SWAP CHANGE!!!! Hello Group, I am considering coming down for the food swap, but I hven't been that impressed with this groups' attitude toward Minnesota Grown products and direct connections to local farms. Seems like whats most popular or convenient gets your attention. We are full-time farmers in central MN and taking a day away from " work " takes some real effort and planning. It costs us $15 an hour to have part-time help do our chores- not because we pay individuals that much, but it takes two people to do our regular job. I enjoy spending time at local farmers markets with information and great values for educated consumers. It energizes me! If you want the farm connection at these swaps- you need to support that idea, before the swap and during. Alvin More farm info @ www.mnorganiceggs.com inishglora <inishglora@...> wrote: , > > Thanks for doing that. I wasn't complaining.... I just wanted to get the > word out so that no one comes at the wrong time or anything!! I know, Therese. ) It's just been a difficult week all around. Actually I'm glad you mentioned it because it also says the lecture was at 1am. I doubt Chaunce would want to be up that late (or that early) to give his presentation. ;o) ~Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Alvin, Seems like when someone learns of a farmer who raises things in a NT acceptable way, we are happy to let every one on list know about them. At the swap, well, all the farmers there had nice displays and I know I checked each one out carefully and saw the others doing likewise. I know I came home with sauerkraut, hot dogs, chicken, garlic salt, and info on getting some ducks later this spring. I learned about some farms I did not know about before and got their info to add to my directory. I freely share all this information with any one who has an interests as well as some who don't! ;-) I learned about farming practices and met new friends. I came home with knowledge as well as goods. I personally think the farmers who where there were well supported. I know Joe has placed a file up so we can print out posters to pass out to help promote the swap. But do realize, we are doing all this on no money budget! We are not able to place ads unless it comes out of a person's wallet. This is people volunteering to do this out of the goodness of their hearts. If you have some ideas on how we can make the swap better, please share them with us! You are right about thanking the organizers, they do work hard and contribute lots! I personally want to thank all who have worked so hard to make the swaps happen! I also know how hard it is for a farmer to take time away from the farm. So I appreciate what they do in coming and thank them also. Kimi ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.Jremedies.com Why is it that our children can't read a Bible in school, but they can in prison? Re: APRIL SWAP CHANGE!!!! Hello Group, I am considering coming down for the food swap, but I hven't been that impressed with this groups' attitude toward Minnesota Grown products and direct connections to local farms. Seems like whats most popular or convenient gets your attention. We are full-time farmers in central MN and taking a day away from " work " takes some real effort and planning. It costs us $15 an hour to have part-time help do our chores- not because we pay individuals that much, but it takes two people to do our regular job. I enjoy spending time at local farmers markets with information and great values for educated consumers. It energizes me! If you want the farm connection at these swaps- you need to support that idea, before the swap and during. Alvin More farm info @ www.mnorganiceggs.com inishglora <inishglora@...> wrote: , > > Thanks for doing that. I wasn't complaining.... I just wanted to get the > word out so that no one comes at the wrong time or anything!! I know, Therese. ) It's just been a difficult week all around. Actually I'm glad you mentioned it because it also says the lecture was at 1am. I doubt Chaunce would want to be up that late (or that early) to give his presentation. ;o) ~Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Jeff, I was not able to get to the last swap, but I've hired some part-time help with egg packaging to give us back a somewhat normal life. It's hard to cover their wages but we're managing to put more of our eggs into direct markets and that increases our profit margins. Summer market season wil soon be here and that helps also (although it takes a real time commitment) and it's good for my attitude to have contact with more people and hear the thanks yous. Jeff Grotte <jeff@...> wrote: Alvin Were you at the last swap? Jeff Grotte I've stopped 18,757 spam and fraud messages. You can too! Free trial of spam and fraud protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/sig/? Re: APRIL SWAP CHANGE!!!! Dear Group, I am not compaining about the business that you do in our direction. I've got more market than I have product. My concern is that if you don't promote and support the farmers that may come to your swap- You're missing the point. I understand that it's all good fun to gather and talk about your lives and such, but the bottom line is we're all sourcing good food. Building those connections should be a priority along with thanking the organizers for their enormous contribution. Alvin Kimi <kwolffden@...> wrote: Alvin, I disagree with you here. I know I search hard and far to get locally grown foods. I long for summer and all the wonderful farmer markets. I buy from local merchants at those for the most part, as I do not want to give my money elsewhere if I can avoid it. I will admit though, roses are often not locally grown but I sure can not pass them up! LOL. My hubby and I bought a quarter beef from a family farm in southern MN this fall and have been enjoying it all winter so far. I grow much of our veggies and can/freeze them. I pick strawberries from local farmers, apples are given from a friends tree a few miles from my home. I buy my cucumbers from the farmer down the road for our pickles. I also grow my own herbs and make my own ketchup. Oh, my grains I get are local grown too. Now, do I go around and announce it all the time, heavens no. I just do it. I also know many on the list, and I will dare to say, the majority on list, also buy mostly locally grown. I think it is assumed here that local is best. Now, do we say each and every time we get a local product, no. Is it necessary to do this, no, but I know we happily share when we find a new local farmer whose products we are able to get and are of good quality. I know I have always thought that concessions here on MNTF was that we buy locally when ever we can. I will say though, I figure local for me anything with in a 2 hour drive. I do travel 2 hours one way for my milk that I get in Wisconsin. I still consider them local. When I am visiting with my daughter in La Crosse WI, I buy locally there too! There is the sweetest 75 year old lady who raises bees and I buy honey from her. Should I not do this because she is not a Minnesotan? Sorry if you are offended at my buying honey from a little old lady because she is not a part of MN farmers group. I think she needs my money more as she is on a very fixed income. Kimi ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.Jremedies.com Why is it that our children can't read a Bible in school, but they can in prison? Re: APRIL SWAP CHANGE!!!! Hello Group, I am considering coming down for the food swap, but I hven't been that impressed with this groups' attitude toward Minnesota Grown products and direct connections to local farms. Seems like whats most popular or convenient gets your attention. We are full-time farmers in central MN and taking a day away from " work " takes some real effort and planning. It costs us $15 an hour to have part-time help do our chores- not because we pay individuals that much, but it takes two people to do our regular job. I enjoy spending time at local farmers markets with information and great values for educated consumers. It energizes me! If you want the farm connection at these swaps- you need to support that idea, before the swap and during. Alvin More farm info @ www.mnorganiceggs.com inishglora <inishglora@...> wrote: , > > Thanks for doing that. I wasn't complaining.... I just wanted to get the > word out so that no one comes at the wrong time or anything!! I know, Therese. ) It's just been a difficult week all around. Actually I'm glad you mentioned it because it also says the lecture was at 1am. I doubt Chaunce would want to be up that late (or that early) to give his presentation. ;o) ~Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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