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I have heard that argument about milk being species specific before. But

milk and dairy has gone back 1000's of years and has totally sustained many

cultures into very old age. Weston Price found evidence to the

healthfullness of milk. The Bible speaks of milk and honey in I think about

75 places.

I got the book " The Untold Story Of Milk " on Saturday. I had raw milk on

hand from last week end, I had been drinking that regularly. After reading

about the " milk cures " that were done successfully at many hospitals and

sanitariums before the pasteurization of milk, I continued with more gusto.

Funny thing is, I have had trouble with lymph, thyroid, edema, gout, kidney,

bloating, weight, blood volume, and other things in the past and present.

Yesterday my sweat glands began to function for the first time in about 30

years, the edema is gone, skin is clearer, thyroid is starting to kick in a

bit more, bloating is leaving, weight is changing, and kidney is stronger.

I have nothing else other than a miracle to attribute these changes to.

Also there is no flem created by raw milk. I had always known the dairy

caused flem.

So is milk species specific??? I'm not sure any more.

PS What does SCOBY stand for?

wrote on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 1:01 PM

Subject: Milk question and kombucha scoby request

First off, I'm ready to hop on the kombucha train! Does anyone have a

SCOBY for me?

Second, what do you say to this argument regarding milk??? (excerpt

from an email from a friend):

" He said we are the only species that drinks another species milk which

isn't healthy since milk is species specific. Cow milk has the right

nutrients for a baby cow and not the right ones for human babies and

visa versa. We are also the only species that drinks milk after

childhood. So really we probably shouldn't drink milk at all. "

See, this totally makes sense to me and I don't know what to say! I

don't really like milk and don't drink a whole lot of it. My son (he's

almost two) only drinks about 8-10 ounces a day, if that. Do we really

need milk???

Thanks!

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My husband has polio. His legs swell up if he goes off milk. We tried

chelation with glutathione for awhile and he got the same relief.

Glutathione is in the whey from the milk. So now I order extra whey every

week and add it to his milk. It¹s $1 instead of $150.00 a week. I just put

a couple extra tablespoons in daily.

Kathy

on 4/4/06 2:40 PM, seasidestudent at seasidestudent@... wrote:

> Yesterday my sweat glands began to function for the first time in about 30

> years, the edema is gone,

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thank you!!!! these are exactly the kind of success stories i want

to hear! i've also looked up many references to milk in the bible

and i do think that God provided all parts of the animal for us to be

nourished by.

i'm not sure if scoby stands for anything or not.....and i only

capitalized it because i've seen people do that before! it's the

mushroom that you use to make kombucha tea.

shannon

>

> I have heard that argument about milk being species specific

before. But

> milk and dairy has gone back 1000's of years and has totally

sustained many

> cultures into very old age. Weston Price found evidence to the

> healthfullness of milk. The Bible speaks of milk and honey in I

think about

> 75 places.

>

> I got the book " The Untold Story Of Milk " on Saturday. I had raw

milk on

> hand from last week end, I had been drinking that regularly. After

reading

> about the " milk cures " that were done successfully at many

hospitals and

> sanitariums before the pasteurization of milk, I continued with

more gusto.

> Funny thing is, I have had trouble with lymph, thyroid, edema,

gout, kidney,

> bloating, weight, blood volume, and other things in the past and

present.

> Yesterday my sweat glands began to function for the first time in

about 30

> years, the edema is gone, skin is clearer, thyroid is starting to

kick in a

> bit more, bloating is leaving, weight is changing, and kidney is

stronger.

> I have nothing else other than a miracle to attribute these changes

to.

> Also there is no flem created by raw milk. I had always known the

dairy

> caused flem.

>

> So is milk species specific??? I'm not sure any more.

>

> PS What does SCOBY stand for?

>

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that is amazing! i know a woman who is in her late 70's now who had

polio when she was in her 30's. i should tell her about the benefit

your husband has received. her daughter actually has a goat

farm....would raw goat milk provide the same benefit? or do you think

it's the extra whey that you add that helps so much?

shannon

-- In , Kathy DeBoer <kdeboer@...> wrote:

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> My husband has polio. His legs swell up if he goes off milk.

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> PS What does SCOBY stand for?

Symbiotic Culture Of Yeast and Bacteria. i will have some available

as the weather warms up. Check with me on June 17th. :o)

~Joe

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Goat milk is great. They whey is already in the milk, I just add a little

extra.

Kathy

on 4/4/06 6:42 PM, at sh7joy1@... wrote:

> that is amazing! i know a woman who is in her late 70's now who had

> polio when she was in her 30's. i should tell her about the benefit

> your husband has received. her daughter actually has a goat

> farm....would raw goat milk provide the same benefit? or do you think

> it's the extra whey that you add that helps so much?

>

> shannon

>

> -- In , Kathy DeBoer <kdeboer@...> wrote:

>> >

>> > My husband has polio. His legs swell up if he goes off milk.

>

>

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Humans deal with food very differently than any animal. Animals generally eat

whatever

they find, as soon as they find/kill it. Some large animals will leave a kill

and eat off of it

for several days, but that's only because they cannot eat it in one sitting.

People cook their food, store their food for extended periods, plant and harvest

their food,

transport their food... We are also the only ones who can figure out how to get

milk from

someone who is not their own mama. My cats LOVE milk and hang around closely

when

I'm milking, they just are incapable of obtaining milk without my help.

So the logic behind the argument that people are the only ones who drink milk

just can't

be sustained.

Lynn

> " He said we are the only species that drinks another species milk which

> isn't healthy since milk is species specific. Cow milk has the right

> nutrients for a baby cow and not the right ones for human babies and

> visa versa. We are also the only species that drinks milk after

> childhood. So really we probably shouldn't drink milk at all. "

>

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Lynn,

What type of animal are you milking, Goat or Cow???? I have always dreamt of

having a milk cow. I have never tried milking before but it has been a dream of

mine since I was a little girl.

In fact, when I was 5 years old, I went to my aunts family farm for a family

bridal shower. They raised beef steers. I spent hours watching those cows and

finally went inside and asked if I could milk one of their cows. Well once they

wiped the tears from their eyes form laughing so hard. It was explained to me

that they were steers and I could not milk them. Well, not knowing what a steer

was, I walked away grumbling about them not letting me milk one of their steers!

Kimi

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I milk alpine goats. I have 3- 2 will kid next month. Plan to sell most of

the baby girls

and raise the boys for meat- My dd loves to eat " Chili " . Goats have

become so

popular that they're planning on opening a butcher that's dedicated to goats

just west of

the cities.

Spring is definately here. Soon we'll be up to our eyeballs in babies: goats,

chicks,

kittens... Lots of fun :)

Lynn

> What type of animal are you milking, Goat or Cow???? I have always dreamt of

having a

milk cow. I have never tried milking before but it has been a dream of mine

since I was a

little girl.

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Can we come visit all the babies?

Ann Marie

>

> Spring is definately here. Soon we'll be up to our eyeballs in babies:

> goats, chicks,

> kittens... Lots of fun :)

> Lynn

>

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what does goat meat taste like? similar to lamb?? i'm just really

learning to like the distinct flavor of lamb...before i pretended to

love it because i thought it was quite distinguished...i was really

choking it down!! then my friend made a fabulous lamb/fig stew and i

fell in love.

shannon

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> and raise the boys for meat- My dd loves to eat " Chili " .

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Goat does not taste anything like lamb, it's actually closest to antelope (or so

I'm told since

I guess they're related). As far as comparing it to " normal " livestock, it

would be closer to

beef.

The butcher will be located in/near Silver Lake (On hwy 7, east of Hutchinson).

Haven't

heard anything about it recently, although rumor has it that one of the partners

is going

through a divorce so don't know if that will effect it. I plan to investigate

it in May after my

babies are born and I have an idea of how many I'll be looking to butcher in the

fall.

Lynn

>

> what does goat meat taste like? similar to lamb??

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I have eaten goat with a few friends teaching me some cooking (liberia,

samolia) It would be great to know where to shop for some fresh.

-Audrey

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> The butcher will be located in/near Silver Lake (On hwy 7, east of

Hutchinson).

> Lynn

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