Guest guest Posted August 12, 2000 Report Share Posted August 12, 2000 From: " jkatz1 " <jkatz1@...> > Educated core refers to the ability of the athlete to involve the >abdominals in other exercises or movements more effectively. How does one squat 100kg, Powerclean 80kg, Deadlift 120kg and so on and compared to some these are pretty light loads without pretty good abdominal involvement? > Warm up refers to a > practice/movement setting not weightlifting where core training and/or a > lighter load can be used. Are you suggesting that people warm up using exercises that are not related to what they are warming up for? >The pilates progression is simply grouped > logically as each exercise builds on one another, in some cases no better > or worse than skill transfer exercises or other modes training where a proper > progression is instilled. What, you mean like the principle of progressive overload that uses the FITT acronym as one of the many ways to increase overload? How does Pilates differ from the way I teach aerobics athletes how to do push ups? -Push ups on knees -Full push ups -One arm push ups -One arm with lateral hinge push up -One arm one leg push ups -One arm one leg with lateral hinge push ups At any stage an athlete can make progress with just doing push ups. Other times I may see a major weakness in their shoulders, low back, abs or legs where I may use supplementary exercises. If I don't see any problems then I don't see the point in supplementary exercises. >Unfortunately many coaches simply add more volume > to core training exercises rather than level of difficulty. No disputing that there are good and bad coaches. Where have they gone wrong in their education that they make such a mistake and does Pilates (or any other form training/education) offer a better way of educating these coaches? Cheers Hamish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2000 Report Share Posted August 13, 2000 Hello. Why are you not posting this to the list? The whole point of email lists is to share, discuss and debate information. I post my ideas in the hope that others respond even if they disagree with me. Hamish ----- Original Message ----- > From: " jkatz1 " <jkatz1@...> > > > Educated core refers to the ability of the athlete to involve the > >abdominals in other exercises or movements more effectively. > >> How does one squat 100kg, Powerclean 80kg, Deadlift 120kg and so on and >> compared to some these are pretty light loads without pretty good >>abdominal involvement? > > Why can't it be improved? > > > Warm up refers to a > > practice/movement setting not weightlifting where core training and/or a > > lighter load can be used. > >> Are you suggesting that people warm up using exercises that are not >>related to what they are warming up for? > Not at all. However before a volleyball > practice I will have the players do a couple of core exercises and some > movement standing up...briefly....before training in a more squatted (i.e. > defensive) posture where we initiate very specific movements. > > >The pilates progression is simply grouped > >logically as each exercise builds on one another, in some cases no > >better or worse than skill transfer exercises or other modes training where a > >proper progression is instilled. > >> What, you mean like the principle of progressive overload that uses the >> FITT acronym as one of the many ways to increase overload? I would say angle >> instead of overload since bodyweight is constant but the angle creates a >> different overload. > >> How does Pilates differ from the way I teach aerobics athletes how to do >> push ups? From a progression...it may not differ much. Would you not >>however offer a concentric full pushup followed by a one arm eccentric pushup >>(if it was necessary)? > > -Push ups on knees > -Full push ups > -One arm push ups > -One arm with lateral hinge push up > -One arm one leg push ups > -One arm one leg with lateral hinge push ups > > At any stage an athlete can make progress with just doing push ups. Other > times I may see a major weakness in their shoulders, low back, abs or legs > where I may use supplementary exercises. If I don't see any problems then > I don't see the point in supplementary exercises. > > >Unfortunately many coaches simply add more volume > > to core training exercises rather than level of difficulty. > > No disputing that there are good and bad coaches. Where have they gone > wrong in their education that they make such a mistake and does Pilates (or any > other form training/education) offer a better way of educating these > coaches? > > That's where the Pilates hypers can go overboard...stating that Pilates is > THE ONLY Way to go. I disagree. Yes it provides some good cues on postural > alignment, and core development - but an athlete needs much more. Pilates > can provide PART of a foundation for explosive training, but an explosive > athlete has to train that way...so there are limits to it. As I said > before...for core development, if offers some interesting angles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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