Re: Fw: SENATE FOR HEALTH VISITORS AND SCHOOL NURSES.doc

[Guest guest]

Thank you all of you for organising this - all sounds great and i am glad June has agreed to the Thurday.

The debate title I think is fine but cane we change the seecond sufficiently to somethibng eles - i was always taught that you should not use the same word twice in a sentance. I cannot at this moment come up with anything else but will think onit.

Also June dose not have an "e" on her .

The last comment about the Senate worried me slightly - I thibk we should stick to the promotion of the profession - it sounds a bit competitive.

Great if will be the contact - many thanks.

Margaret

SENATE FOR HEALTH VISITORS AND SCHOOL NURSES.doc

SENATE FOR HEALTH VISITORS AND SCHOOL NURSES

INAUGURAL PROFESSIONAL MEETING

PUBLIC DEBATE

“THIS HOUSE AGREES THAT A CENTURY OF ACCUMULATED KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE IS SUFFICIENT TO DEMONSTRATE THAT HEALTH VISITING IS SUFFICIENTLY DIFFERENT FROM NURSING, MIDWIFERY AND MEDICINE TO BE RECOGNISED AS A SEPARATE PROFESSION”.

Chairperson : RT.HON. FRANK DOBSON M.P.

Proposer of the Motion : Professor Cowley (full title please)

Opponent of the Motion Professor June e (I will confirm full title)

DATE 16TH NOVEMBER 2000 AT 7PM

VENUE XXXXXX( to confirm)

The Senate for Health Visiting and Sehool Nursing is the first organisation set up to promote the work of Health Visitors and School Nursed in over a century. Be part of your professions history by attending this first meeting.

Entry fee £5.00. payable in advance to Daly, Senate Events Organiser, 38 Northwick Avenue, Kenton, Harrow Middlesex HA3 0AB.

[Guest guest]

We might need to work on the wordin: dear never uses one word

if ten will do!!

I thought the debate was about whether you had to be a nurse to be a

health visitor: the motion needs to be short and snappy .

The constituion of the SENATE reads very differently from the descriptor

here, which I don't think is accurate; we will feed the CPHVA's paranoia

about us if we look as if we are setting up in opposition. All we

want to do is debate professional issues and develop health visiting and

school nursing practice - without having to apologise for being proud of

our profession allk the time, as happens elsewhere. Many thanks to

you all for doing the leg work and organising about this: I will

get back to you after confirming the motion. Kind regards

Bidmead wrote:

MARY

HAS BEEN HARD AT WORK! This is what it looks like so far. Any

comments?

SENATE FOR HEALTH VISITORS

AND SCHOOL NURSES.doc

SENATE

FOR HEALTH VISITORS AND SCHOOL NURSES

INAUGURAL

PROFESSIONAL MEETING

PUBLIC

DEBATE

“THIS

HOUSE AGREES THAT A CENTURY OF ACCUMULATED KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE IS

SUFFICIENT TO DEMONSTRATE THAT HEALTH VISITING IS SUFFICIENTLY DIFFERENT

FROM NURSING, MIDWIFERY AND MEDICINE TO BE RECOGNISED AS A SEPARATE PROFESSION”.

Chairperson

: RT.HON.

FRANK DOBSON M.P.

Proposer

of the Motion : Professor Cowley (full title please)

Opponent

of the Motion Professor June e (I will confirm full title)

DATE

16TH NOVEMBER 2000

AT 7PM

VENUE

XXXXXX( to confirm)

The

Senate for Health Visiting and Sehool Nursing is the first organisation

set up to promote the work of Health Visitors and School Nursed in over

a century. Be part of your professions history by attending this first

meeting.

Entry

fee £5.00. payable in advance to Daly, Senate Events Organiser,

38 Northwick Avenue, Kenton, Harrow Middlesex HA3 0AB.

[Guest guest]

> SENATE FOR HEALTH VISITORS AND SCHOOL NURSESMARY HAS BEEN HARD AT

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Good flyer, but if we are able to use UCL's facilities, it must be

free to UCL students and staff, to get the reduced rate they are

likely to charge us. I anticipate that only a few locals will attend.

Woody.

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[Guest guest]

Dear and Margaret,

Please feel free to change the wording of the title of the debate. I have just chatted with who was just trying to set the ball rolling. However the ball does need to role fast as we need to get the fliers out quickly. can get 2,000 for £100 when we have agreed the content. I agree with Margaret and yourself the end part also need some rewording.

'The SENATE is an enabling group for health visitors and school nurses for interactive involvement and networking on professional issues'. This is my suggestion although it sounds a little clumsy. Anyone any other ideas?

The constitution says:

A key area of interest is the so-called ‘policy-practice gap’ that opens up when there is a difference between what is expected, hoped for or promoted in national and local policies, and what actually happens in the practice situation.

3 SENATE aims:

· to be a voice in the development of and influence on policy affecting health for health visiting and school nursing

· to provide an interactive discussion group where policy and practice issues can be debated and explored

· to influence policies affecting health with particular reference to health visiting and school nursing.

· to provide clarity of purpose for health visiting and school nursing through professional leadership.

I have put here the part of the constitution that says what we are about. I think we need some sort of précis of this.

SENATE FOR HEALTH VISITORS AND SCHOOL NURSES.doc

SENATE FOR HEALTH VISITORS AND SCHOOL NURSES

INAUGURAL PROFESSIONAL MEETING

PUBLIC DEBATE

“THIS HOUSE AGREES THAT A CENTURY OF ACCUMULATED KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE IS SUFFICIENT TO DEMONSTRATE THAT HEALTH VISITING IS SUFFICIENTLY DIFFERENT FROM NURSING, MIDWIFERY AND MEDICINE TO BE RECOGNISED AS A SEPARATE PROFESSION”.

Chairperson : RT.HON. FRANK DOBSON M.P.

Proposer of the Motion : Professor Cowley (full title please)

Opponent of the Motion Professor June (I will confirm full title)

DATE 16TH NOVEMBER 2000 AT 7PM

VENUE XXXXXX( to confirm)

The Senate for Health Visiting and School Nursing is the first organisation set up to promote the work of Health Visitors and School Nursed in over a century. Be part of your professions history by attending this first meeting.

Entry fee £5.00. payable in advance to Daly, Senate Events Organiser, 38 Northwick Avenue, Kenton, Harrow Middlesex HA3 0AB.

[Guest guest]

Dear Woody,

Please ignore my panic messages left a little earlier. I had not received

your latest messages when I sent them.

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Organiser, 38 Northwick Avenue, Kenton, Harrow Middlesex HA3 0AB.

[Guest guest]

I like that

Bidmead wrote:

Dear

and Margaret,Please feel

free to change the wording of the title of the debate. I have just

chatted with who was just trying to set the ball rolling. However

the ball does need to role fast as we need to get the fliers out quickly.

can get 2,000 for £100 when we have agreed the content.

I agree with Margaret and yourself the end part also need some rewording.

'The

SENATE is an enabling group for health visitors and school nurses for interactive

involvement and networking on professional issues'. This is my suggestion

although it sounds a little clumsy. Anyone any other ideas?

The

constitution says:

A

key area of interest is the so-called ‘policy-practice gap’ that opens

up when there is a difference between what is expected, hoped for or promoted

in national and local policies, and what actually happens in the practice

situation.

3SENATE

aims:

·to

be a voice in the development of and influence on policy affecting health

for health visiting and school nursing

·to

provide an interactive discussion group where policy and practice issues

can be debated and explored

·to

influence policies affecting health with particular reference to health

visiting and school nursing.

·to

provide clarity of purpose for health visiting and school nursing through

professional leadership.

I

have put here the part of the constitution that says what we are about.

I think we need some sort of précis of this.

SENATE FOR HEALTH VISITORS

AND SCHOOL NURSES.doc

SENATE

FOR HEALTH VISITORS AND SCHOOL NURSES

INAUGURAL

PROFESSIONAL MEETING

PUBLIC

DEBATE

“THIS

HOUSE AGREES THAT A CENTURY OF ACCUMULATED KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE IS

SUFFICIENT TO DEMONSTRATE THAT HEALTH VISITING IS SUFFICIENTLY DIFFERENT

FROM NURSING, MIDWIFERY AND MEDICINE TO BE RECOGNISED AS A SEPARATE PROFESSION”.

Chairperson

: RT.HON.

FRANK DOBSON M.P.

Proposer

of the Motion : Professor Cowley (full title please)

Opponent

of the Motion Professor June (I will confirm full title)

DATE

16TH NOVEMBER 2000

AT 7PM

VENUE

XXXXXX( to confirm)

The

Senate for Health Visiting and School Nursing is the first organisation

set up to promote the work of Health Visitors and School Nursed in over

a century. Be part of your professions history by attending this first

meeting.

Entry

fee £5.00. payable in advance to Daly, Senate Events Organiser,

38 Northwick Avenue, Kenton, Harrow Middlesex HA3 0AB.

[Guest guest]

This reads aa amuch better end to me. I have also looked at 's suggstion for a motion which I thibk is simple and fine.

The NursingTtimes should do a piece for us to be published on the day of the debate if June and will write a short bit about what they are to say. I will liaise with over this as i am not sure where she is at with the publicity.

Margaret

SENATE FOR HEALTH VISITORS AND SCHOOL NURSES.doc

SENATE FOR HEALTH VISITORS AND SCHOOL NURSES

INAUGURAL PROFESSIONAL MEETING

PUBLIC DEBATE

“THIS HOUSE AGREES THAT A CENTURY OF ACCUMULATED KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE IS SUFFICIENT TO DEMONSTRATE THAT HEALTH VISITING IS SUFFICIENTLY DIFFERENT FROM NURSING, MIDWIFERY AND MEDICINE TO BE RECOGNISED AS A SEPARATE PROFESSION”.

Chairperson : RT.HON. FRANK DOBSON M.P.

Proposer of the Motion : Professor Cowley (full title please)

Opponent of the Motion Professor June (I will confirm full title)

DATE 16TH NOVEMBER 2000 AT 7PM

VENUE XXXXXX( to confirm)

The Senate for Health Visiting and School Nursing is the first organisation set up to promote the work of Health Visitors and School Nursed in over a century. Be part of your professions history by attending this first meeting.

Entry fee £5.00. payable in advance to Daly, Senate Events Organiser, 38 Northwick Avenue, Kenton, Harrow Middlesex HA3 0AB.