Re: projects,research and papers

[Guest guest]

I know exactly what you mean. I am now 18 months post-PhD and have got

several of my thesis-based papers out as well as some other stuff which I had

hanging around.

Help may be at hand. I understand from one of oour professors here that the

DoH has recognised this problem and that they are considering a strategy to

provide a route for people like you and me to use the skills learned and have

some kind of job security and a salary whch is reasonable (whatever that

means!). Apparently it is due out " soon " .

Many many congratulations on your success!

Best wishes

Coles wrote:

> I have attached my thesis summary for the list. Since getting my PhD

> in July in Cardiff I’m going through what my daughter refers to as a

> post doc ‘fund dry’ period!

>

> I did a process to outcome study of the interpersonal skills to

> promote health in health visiting within the question of why this

> type of activity is difficult to evaluate. I am currently writing

> papers from my thesis and working up a follow on proposal and looking

> for opportunities to use my research skills.

>

> I’d like to discuss what to write up for the Community Practitioner.

> Who should I talk to?

>

> Its a crazy system when one has developed research skills alongside

> health visiting and can’t direct them until you also secure the money

> to fund further research. There were some comments a way back on the

> list about doing more research in health visiting but my feeling is

> that unless there is a clear career path through education and into

> community practice that nurtures and supports aspiring nurse

> researchers through links to appropriate resources it will always be a

> bit of a hit and miss activity.

>

> I value the SENATE list to keep aware of current issues and welcome

> ideas from members about funding sources and research priorities

> within the effectiveness/outcome field. I am especially interested in

> the views of service users on outcomes and the congruence between

> these and other stakeholders’ views.

>

> , I’m interested in your reference to research needed to evaluate

> the DOH health visiting/school nursing development programme. Can you

> give me a contact for further enquiries?

>

> Could Margret Buttigieg tell me more about the project officer job or

> who I can contact? I was in at the beginning of the review of health

> visiting and school nursing in Wales at the scoping stage with

> reporting the response from the CPHVA, Wales.

>

> If anyone knows of projects that want research/evaluation support, do

> put me touch.

>

> Coles

> Hon Research Associate

> Nursing, Health and Social Care Research Centre, UWCM, Cardiff

>

> contact via e-mail ColesEW@... or telephone 01446 760776

> anytime.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I will be joining you soon, as well!

Toity

On Wed, 04 Oct 2000 10:10:20 +0100 " Kelsey, A. " <agk1@...> wrote:

>

>

> I know exactly what you mean. I am now 18 months post-PhD and have got

> several of my thesis-based papers out as well as some other stuff which I had

> hanging around.

>

> Help may be at hand. I understand from one of oour professors here that the

> DoH has recognised this problem and that they are considering a strategy to

> provide a route for people like you and me to use the skills learned and have

> some kind of job security and a salary whch is reasonable (whatever that

> means!). Apparently it is due out " soon " .

>

> Many many congratulations on your success!

>

> Best wishes

>

>

> Coles wrote:

>

> > I have attached my thesis summary for the list. Since getting my PhD

> > in July in Cardiff Im going through what my daughter refers to as a

> > post doc fund dry period!

> >

> > I did a process to outcome study of the interpersonal skills to

> > promote health in health visiting within the question of why this

> > type of activity is difficult to evaluate. I am currently writing

> > papers from my thesis and working up a follow on proposal and looking

> > for opportunities to use my research skills.

> >

> > Id like to discuss what to write up for the Community Practitioner.

> > Who should I talk to?

> >

> > Its a crazy system when one has developed research skills alongside

> > health visiting and cant direct them until you also secure the money

> > to fund further research. There were some comments a way back on the

> > list about doing more research in health visiting but my feeling is

> > that unless there is a clear career path through education and into

> > community practice that nurtures and supports aspiring nurse

> > researchers through links to appropriate resources it will always be a

> > bit of a hit and miss activity.

> >

> > I value the SENATE list to keep aware of current issues and welcome

> > ideas from members about funding sources and research priorities

> > within the effectiveness/outcome field. I am especially interested in

> > the views of service users on outcomes and the congruence between

> > these and other stakeholders views.

> >

> > , Im interested in your reference to research needed to evaluate

> > the DOH health visiting/school nursing development programme. Can you

> > give me a contact for further enquiries?

> >

> > Could Margret Buttigieg tell me more about the project officer job or

> > who I can contact? I was in at the beginning of the review of health

> > visiting and school nursing in Wales at the scoping stage with

> > reporting the response from the CPHVA, Wales.

> >

> > If anyone knows of projects that want research/evaluation support, do

> > put me touch.

> >

> > Coles

> > Hon Research Associate

> > Nursing, Health and Social Care Research Centre, UWCM, Cardiff

> >

> > contact via e-mail ColesEW@... or telephone 01446 760776

> > anytime.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

, very many congratulations on successfully completing your PhD; your

abstract sounds very interesting and topical. There are resonances with two

studies that I have underway at present, and I would very much enjoy talking

with you about it at some point. Have you tried contacting the editor of

Community Practitioner, if you that is where you want to target a

publication?

I do recognise your frustration though, and am not surprised that two other

'like minds' have already responded. I am the 'afternoon speaker' at SIGET

(SIG for education and training) this coming Saturday 7th October talking

about the continuing hurdles involved in 'building a programme of research'

with myself as example (I'm still building; not built yet!). Issues of

funding are a perennial battle, and it remains the case at every stage of

development that the time taken (sometimes years!) to develop funding

proposals is, itself, unfunded. It is a crazy system, but not unique to

nursing. SIGET usually allow non-members to attend the afternoon speaker

session, at 2pm at CPHVA headquarters if anyone is interested.

One of the things I have recently picked up on is the possibility of funding

for 'research seminar discussion groups' from ESRC. The proposal is due in

at the end of November. It is a bit late tonight, but I will fish out the

details and post them. Perhaps we should try and go for it, because then we

would be able to get some administrative support and plan meetings ( a

minimum of three a year are needed, with the prospect of published papers).

I think it might be good if we could have six meetings a year - three for

academic research and three for practice based topics. Would anyone be

interested in collaborating on this? What kind of practice topics would be a

popular focus?

best wishes

Coles wrote:

> I have attached my thesis summary for the list. Since getting my PhD

> in July in Cardiff I’m going through what my daughter refers to as a

> post doc ‘fund dry’ period!

>

> I did a process to outcome study of the interpersonal skills to

> promote health in health visiting within the question of why this

> type of activity is difficult to evaluate. I am currently writing

> papers from my thesis and working up a follow on proposal and looking

> for opportunities to use my research skills.

>

> I’d like to discuss what to write up for the Community Practitioner.

> Who should I talk to?

>

> Its a crazy system when one has developed research skills alongside

> health visiting and can’t direct them until you also secure the money

> to fund further research. There were some comments a way back on the

> list about doing more research in health visiting but my feeling is

> that unless there is a clear career path through education and into

> community practice that nurtures and supports aspiring nurse

> researchers through links to appropriate resources it will always be a

> bit of a hit and miss activity.

>

> I value the SENATE list to keep aware of current issues and welcome

> ideas from members about funding sources and research priorities

> within the effectiveness/outcome field. I am especially interested in

> the views of service users on outcomes and the congruence between

> these and other stakeholders’ views.

>

> , I’m interested in your reference to research needed to evaluate

> the DOH health visiting/school nursing development programme. Can you

> give me a contact for further enquiries?

>

> Could Margret Buttigieg tell me more about the project officer job or

> who I can contact? I was in at the beginning of the review of health

> visiting and school nursing in Wales at the scoping stage with

> reporting the response from the CPHVA, Wales.

>

> If anyone knows of projects that want research/evaluation support, do

> put me touch.

>

> Coles

> Hon Research Associate

> Nursing, Health and Social Care Research Centre, UWCM, Cardiff

>

> contact via e-mail ColesEW@... or telephone 01446 760776

> anytime.

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I would be interested. I'm in the second year of my PhD developing a new model of clinical supervision

based on an ethical friendship. I look forward to hearing more from you, also I'm at the CPHVA conference

if you'd be there to meet with

Georgina

Re: projects,research and papers

, very many congratulations on successfully completing your PhD; yourabstract sounds very interesting and topical. There are resonances with twostudies that I have underway at present, and I would very much enjoy talkingwith you about it at some point. Have you tried contacting the editor ofCommunity Practitioner, if you that is where you want to target apublication?I do recognise your frustration though, and am not surprised that two other'like minds' have already responded. I am the 'afternoon speaker' at SIGET(SIG for education and training) this coming Saturday 7th October talkingabout the continuing hurdles involved in 'building a programme of research'with myself as example (I'm still building; not built yet!). Issues offunding are a perennial battle, and it remains the case at every stage ofdevelopment that the time taken (sometimes years!) to develop fundingproposals is, itself, unfunded. It is a crazy system, but not unique tonursing. SIGET usually allow non-members to attend the afternoon speakersession, at 2pm at CPHVA headquarters if anyone is interested.One of the things I have recently picked up on is the possibility of fundingfor 'research seminar discussion groups' from ESRC. The proposal is due inat the end of November. It is a bit late tonight, but I will fish out thedetails and post them. Perhaps we should try and go for it, because then wewould be able to get some administrative support and plan meetings ( aminimum of three a year are needed, with the prospect of published papers).I think it might be good if we could have six meetings a year - three foracademic research and three for practice based topics. Would anyone beinterested in collaborating on this? What kind of practice topics would be apopular focus?best wishes Coles wrote:> I have attached my thesis summary for the list. Since getting my PhD> in July in Cardiff I’m going through what my daughter refers to as a> post doc ‘fund dry’ period!>> I did a process to outcome study of the interpersonal skills to> promote health in health visiting within the question of why this> type of activity is difficult to evaluate. I am currently writing> papers from my thesis and working up a follow on proposal and looking> for opportunities to use my research skills.>> I’d like to discuss what to write up for the Community Practitioner.> Who should I talk to?>> Its a crazy system when one has developed research skills alongside> health visiting and can’t direct them until you also secure the money> to fund further research. There were some comments a way back on the> list about doing more research in health visiting but my feeling is> that unless there is a clear career path through education and into> community practice that nurtures and supports aspiring nurse> researchers through links to appropriate resources it will always be a> bit of a hit and miss activity.>> I value the SENATE list to keep aware of current issues and welcome> ideas from members about funding sources and research priorities> within the effectiveness/outcome field. I am especially interested in> the views of service users on outcomes and the congruence between> these and other stakeholders’ views.>> , I’m interested in your reference to research needed to evaluate> the DOH health visiting/school nursing development programme. Can you> give me a contact for further enquiries?>> Could Margret Buttigieg tell me more about the project officer job or> who I can contact? I was in at the beginning of the review of health> visiting and school nursing in Wales at the scoping stage with> reporting the response from the CPHVA, Wales.>> If anyone knows of projects that want research/evaluation support, do> put me touch.>> Coles> Hon Research Associate> Nursing, Health and Social Care Research Centre, UWCM, Cardiff>> contact via e-mail ColesEW@... or telephone 01446 760776> anytime.>>

[Guest guest]

Toity

what great news. I didn't know. I hope all goes well in the final stages. We

will

soon have quite a collection of HVs with doctorates. I wonder if there might be

a

value in forming a group to support people as we/they make the transition.

Toity Deave wrote:

> I will be joining you soon, as well!

>

> Toity

>

> On Wed, 04 Oct 2000 10:10:20 +0100 " Kelsey, A. " <agk1@...> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > I know exactly what you mean. I am now 18 months post-PhD and have got

> > several of my thesis-based papers out as well as some other stuff which I

had

> > hanging around.

> >

> > Help may be at hand. I understand from one of oour professors here that the

> > DoH has recognised this problem and that they are considering a strategy to

> > provide a route for people like you and me to use the skills learned and

have

> > some kind of job security and a salary whch is reasonable (whatever that

> > means!). Apparently it is due out " soon " .

> >

> > Many many congratulations on your success!

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> >

> > Coles wrote:

> >

> > > I have attached my thesis summary for the list. Since getting my PhD

> > > in July in Cardiff Im going through what my daughter refers to as a

> > > post doc fund dry period!

> > >

> > > I did a process to outcome study of the interpersonal skills to

> > > promote health in health visiting within the question of why this

> > > type of activity is difficult to evaluate. I am currently writing

> > > papers from my thesis and working up a follow on proposal and looking

> > > for opportunities to use my research skills.

> > >

> > > Id like to discuss what to write up for the Community Practitioner.

> > > Who should I talk to?

> > >

> > > Its a crazy system when one has developed research skills alongside

> > > health visiting and cant direct them until you also secure the money

> > > to fund further research. There were some comments a way back on the

> > > list about doing more research in health visiting but my feeling is

> > > that unless there is a clear career path through education and into

> > > community practice that nurtures and supports aspiring nurse

> > > researchers through links to appropriate resources it will always be a

> > > bit of a hit and miss activity.

> > >

> > > I value the SENATE list to keep aware of current issues and welcome

> > > ideas from members about funding sources and research priorities

> > > within the effectiveness/outcome field. I am especially interested in

> > > the views of service users on outcomes and the congruence between

> > > these and other stakeholders views.

> > >

> > > , Im interested in your reference to research needed to evaluate

> > > the DOH health visiting/school nursing development programme. Can you

> > > give me a contact for further enquiries?

> > >

> > > Could Margret Buttigieg tell me more about the project officer job or

> > > who I can contact? I was in at the beginning of the review of health

> > > visiting and school nursing in Wales at the scoping stage with

> > > reporting the response from the CPHVA, Wales.

> > >

> > > If anyone knows of projects that want research/evaluation support, do

> > > put me touch.

> > >

> > > Coles

> > > Hon Research Associate

> > > Nursing, Health and Social Care Research Centre, UWCM, Cardiff

> > >

> > > contact via e-mail ColesEW@... or telephone 01446 760776

> > > anytime.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear , , , Toity et al.,

I saw the ESRC call as well and I really think we should try to put

something together. If we could get some meetings funded then

we could, for example, draw up a programme outline, put together

some joint proposals, put together a paper etc on the need for

career pathways for HVs and other community nurses who have

PhDs etc etc. Lets do it!

Ros

[Guest guest]

Dear All

As as non-practising Health Visitor with a PhD now working as a

Research Fellow in Primary Care, I would be very interested in

helping with your bid to the ESRC. I'm sure the absence of a career

structure for community nurses with research experience was

identified a while ago by the MANT report (97/98?).

I will be at the CPHVA conference in Harrogate

Dr Redsell

Research Fellow

CGRDU

General Practice and Primary Health Care

University of Leicester

Leicester General Hospital

Gwendolen Road

Leicester LE5 4PW

Telephone 0116 258 4437

Fax 0116 258 4873

http://www.le.ac.uk/cgrdu/

Email Work sr59@...

Email Personal redsell@...

[Guest guest]

The group sounds very interesting . I would like to be involved with it

too, if possible.

Cowley wrote:

> , very many congratulations on successfully completing your PhD; your

> abstract sounds very interesting and topical. There are resonances with two

> studies that I have underway at present, and I would very much enjoy talking

> with you about it at some point. Have you tried contacting the editor of

> Community Practitioner, if you that is where you want to target a

> publication?

>

> I do recognise your frustration though, and am not surprised that two other

> 'like minds' have already responded. I am the 'afternoon speaker' at SIGET

> (SIG for education and training) this coming Saturday 7th October talking

> about the continuing hurdles involved in 'building a programme of research'

> with myself as example (I'm still building; not built yet!). Issues of

> funding are a perennial battle, and it remains the case at every stage of

> development that the time taken (sometimes years!) to develop funding

> proposals is, itself, unfunded. It is a crazy system, but not unique to

> nursing. SIGET usually allow non-members to attend the afternoon speaker

> session, at 2pm at CPHVA headquarters if anyone is interested.

>

> One of the things I have recently picked up on is the possibility of funding

> for 'research seminar discussion groups' from ESRC. The proposal is due in

> at the end of November. It is a bit late tonight, but I will fish out the

> details and post them. Perhaps we should try and go for it, because then we

> would be able to get some administrative support and plan meetings ( a

> minimum of three a year are needed, with the prospect of published papers).

> I think it might be good if we could have six meetings a year - three for

> academic research and three for practice based topics. Would anyone be

> interested in collaborating on this? What kind of practice topics would be a

> popular focus?

>

> best wishes

>

>

>

> Coles wrote:

>

> > I have attached my thesis summary for the list. Since getting my PhD

> > in July in Cardiff I’m going through what my daughter refers to as a

> > post doc ‘fund dry’ period!

> >

> > I did a process to outcome study of the interpersonal skills to

> > promote health in health visiting within the question of why this

> > type of activity is difficult to evaluate. I am currently writing

> > papers from my thesis and working up a follow on proposal and looking

> > for opportunities to use my research skills.

> >

> > I’d like to discuss what to write up for the Community Practitioner.

> > Who should I talk to?

> >

> > Its a crazy system when one has developed research skills alongside

> > health visiting and can’t direct them until you also secure the money

> > to fund further research. There were some comments a way back on the

> > list about doing more research in health visiting but my feeling is

> > that unless there is a clear career path through education and into

> > community practice that nurtures and supports aspiring nurse

> > researchers through links to appropriate resources it will always be a

> > bit of a hit and miss activity.

> >

> > I value the SENATE list to keep aware of current issues and welcome

> > ideas from members about funding sources and research priorities

> > within the effectiveness/outcome field. I am especially interested in

> > the views of service users on outcomes and the congruence between

> > these and other stakeholders’ views.

> >

> > , I’m interested in your reference to research needed to evaluate

> > the DOH health visiting/school nursing development programme. Can you

> > give me a contact for further enquiries?

> >

> > Could Margret Buttigieg tell me more about the project officer job or

> > who I can contact? I was in at the beginning of the review of health

> > visiting and school nursing in Wales at the scoping stage with

> > reporting the response from the CPHVA, Wales.

> >

> > If anyone knows of projects that want research/evaluation support, do

> > put me touch.

> >

> > Coles

> > Hon Research Associate

> > Nursing, Health and Social Care Research Centre, UWCM, Cardiff

> >

> > contact via e-mail ColesEW@... or telephone 01446 760776

> > anytime.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

It sounds great Ros.

R.M.Bryar@... wrote:

> Dear , , , Toity et al.,

>

> I saw the ESRC call as well and I really think we should try to put

> something together. If we could get some meetings funded then

> we could, for example, draw up a programme outline, put together

> some joint proposals, put together a paper etc on the need for

> career pathways for HVs and other community nurses who have

> PhDs etc etc. Lets do it!

>

> Ros

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear et al,

Good luck with the ESRC- the Small Area Research Group here at UCL is

planning a multi-disciplinary bid, too. Meanwhile, two sources of

funding for HV/SN research occur to me:

1. the Health Action Zones are offering short term (6 month)

Fellowships. While Cardiff does not yet have a HAZ, nearby bits of

England do.

2. NHS R & D are about to advertise Career Scientist posts in Public

Health, up to 5 years post-doctoral funding. Prof. C. ,

Northern & Yorkshire Regional Director of R & D and lead on the NHS R & D

workforce described these in a talk to the RCN's centre for policy on

nursing research this June 27th. If the Career Scientist pilots for

Primary Care in 1999 are anything to go by, it it most important for

clinical researchers with PhD.s to negotiate EARLY ON with academic

'centres of excellence' (King's? Nottingham? Manchester? **) to

prepare the case for a Career award: both the person and the research

environment are crucial !

All the very best,

Woody.

** P.S. the International Centre for Health and Society here at UCL

is a " five star " environment, if HVs/SNs are interested....

> I have attached my thesis summary for the list. Since getting my PhD

> in July in Cardiff I'm going through what my daughter refers to

as a

> post doc `fund dry' period!

>

> I did a process to outcome study of the interpersonal skills to

> promote health in health visiting within the question of why this

> type of activity is difficult to evaluate. I am currently writing

> papers from my thesis and working up a follow on proposal and

looking

> for opportunities to use my research skills.

>

> I'd like to discuss what to write up for the Community

Practitioner.

> Who should I talk to?

>

> Its a crazy system when one has developed research skills alongside

> health visiting and can't direct them until you also secure the

money

> to fund further research. There were some comments a way back on the

> list about doing more research in health visiting but my feeling is

> that unless there is a clear career path through education and into

> community practice that nurtures and supports aspiring nurse

> researchers through links to appropriate resources it will always

be a

> bit of a hit and miss activity.

>

> I value the SENATE list to keep aware of current issues and welcome

> ideas from members about funding sources and research priorities

> within the effectiveness/outcome field. I am especially interested

in

> the views of service users on outcomes and the congruence between

> these and other stakeholders' views.

>

> , I'm interested in your reference to research needed to

evaluate

> the DOH health visiting/school nursing development programme. Can

you

> give me a contact for further enquiries?

>

> Could Margret Buttigieg tell me more about the project officer job

or

> who I can contact? I was in at the beginning of the review of health

> visiting and school nursing in Wales at the scoping stage with

> reporting the response from the CPHVA, Wales.

>

> If anyone knows of projects that want research/evaluation support,

do

> put me touch.

>

> Coles

> Hon Research Associate

> Nursing, Health and Social Care Research Centre, UWCM, Cardiff

>

> contact via e-mail ColesEW@c... or telephone 01446 760776

> anytime.

>

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[Guest guest]

sorry that I won't be able to make the SIGET meeting, it was a group

that I was thinking about the other day actually. I have got to try and

read my thesis thro' at least x1 and think of questions etc. before my

viva!

Toity

----------------------

Toity Deave

Toity.Deave@...

Institute of Child Health

Royal Hospital for Sick Children

St 's Hill

Bristol BS2 8BJ

Tel:0117 9285390

Fax:0117 9285167

[Guest guest]

yes, let's do it. Unfortunately I will be in S Africa during the CPHVA

conference so won't be there but the first hols. for 2 years beckons!

Toity

On Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:45:43 +0100 R.M.Bryar@... wrote:

> Dear , , , Toity et al.,

>

> I saw the ESRC call as well and I really think we should try to put

> something together. If we could get some meetings funded then

> we could, for example, draw up a programme outline, put together

> some joint proposals, put together a paper etc on the need for

> career pathways for HVs and other community nurses who have

> PhDs etc etc. Lets do it!

>

> Ros

>

>

[Guest guest]

I find this very interesting. Back in the early 1990s when the Department

were first developing a reseach strategy, cowley, shelia Twin and

Myself met with them as representatives of the HVA. At the time we pointed

out the need to give special consideration to nursing and especially to

primary care nurses who were undertaking reseach at higher levels

identifying anumber of issuess including this one. We were the only

organisation that wanted somethignseparate for nursing and were tole we

lived in a multi disciplinary era and that we were wrong to single one

profession out. De ja Vu again I thibnk!

Margaret

Re: projects,research and papers

>

>

> I know exactly what you mean. I am now 18 months post-PhD and have got

> several of my thesis-based papers out as well as some other stuff which I

had

> hanging around.

>

> Help may be at hand. I understand from one of oour professors here that

the

> DoH has recognised this problem and that they are considering a strategy

to

> provide a route for people like you and me to use the skills learned and

have

> some kind of job security and a salary whch is reasonable (whatever that

> means!). Apparently it is due out " soon " .

>

> Many many congratulations on your success!

>

> Best wishes

>

>

> Coles wrote:

>

> > I have attached my thesis summary for the list. Since getting my PhD

> > in July in Cardiff I'm going through what my daughter refers to as a

> > post doc 'fund dry' period!

> >

> > I did a process to outcome study of the interpersonal skills to

> > promote health in health visiting within the question of why this

> > type of activity is difficult to evaluate. I am currently writing

> > papers from my thesis and working up a follow on proposal and looking

> > for opportunities to use my research skills.

> >

> > I'd like to discuss what to write up for the Community Practitioner.

> > Who should I talk to?

> >

> > Its a crazy system when one has developed research skills alongside

> > health visiting and can't direct them until you also secure the money

> > to fund further research. There were some comments a way back on the

> > list about doing more research in health visiting but my feeling is

> > that unless there is a clear career path through education and into

> > community practice that nurtures and supports aspiring nurse

> > researchers through links to appropriate resources it will always be a

> > bit of a hit and miss activity.

> >

> > I value the SENATE list to keep aware of current issues and welcome

> > ideas from members about funding sources and research priorities

> > within the effectiveness/outcome field. I am especially interested in

> > the views of service users on outcomes and the congruence between

> > these and other stakeholders' views.

> >

> > , I'm interested in your reference to research needed to evaluate

> > the DOH health visiting/school nursing development programme. Can you

> > give me a contact for further enquiries?

> >

> > Could Margret Buttigieg tell me more about the project officer job or

> > who I can contact? I was in at the beginning of the review of health

> > visiting and school nursing in Wales at the scoping stage with

> > reporting the response from the CPHVA, Wales.

> >

> > If anyone knows of projects that want research/evaluation support, do

> > put me touch.

> >

> > Coles

> > Hon Research Associate

> > Nursing, Health and Social Care Research Centre, UWCM, Cardiff

> >

> > contact via e-mail ColesEW@... or telephone 01446 760776

> > anytime.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

SArah,

I am sure you are right about the Mant report. mant was the research

and devleopment director at the SW Regional Office fpr some of time I was

there as the regional nurse. He and I used to talk about this problem and I

flagged it up with him on many occassions as I was aware of the problems

people like and others I knewhad experienced.

He is an academic GP by background and now at Oxford - he might be a useful

contact and ally.

Margaret

Re: projects,research and papers

> Dear All

> As as non-practising Health Visitor with a PhD now working as a

> Research Fellow in Primary Care, I would be very interested in

> helping with your bid to the ESRC. I'm sure the absence of a career

> structure for community nurses with research experience was

> identified a while ago by the MANT report (97/98?).

> I will be at the CPHVA conference in Harrogate

>

> Dr Redsell

> Research Fellow

> CGRDU

> General Practice and Primary Health Care

> University of Leicester

> Leicester General Hospital

> Gwendolen Road

> Leicester LE5 4PW

>

> Telephone 0116 258 4437

> Fax 0116 258 4873

> http://www.le.ac.uk/cgrdu/

>

> Email Work sr59@...

> Email Personal redsell@...

>

>

[Guest guest]

The project officer job will be with East Somerset NHS Trust and South

Somerset PCG. It follows on from a piece of work I have just completed for

them reviewing their health visiting service. One of my clear

recommendations was that if they were serious about developing and changing

health visitng practice then they needed soemone external to do it. They

have obviously taken this on board. It will include working to help

properly implement integrated self- managed teams. They think they need

someone full time but I am goint to suggest someone three days a week as

knowing the Trust if they employ a full-time person they will get sucked

into other thibgs and become of the system. I thibk it is important the

project office remains separate.

It is likely I will continue to do some work for them supporting the

projexct officer and doing some facilitation and development with the whole

PCG.

If you would like to talk more about it do ring me on 01252 681 513 - I am

in all weekend and most evening thiscoming week.

Margaret

projects,research and papers

I have attached my thesis summary for the list. Since getting my PhD

in July in Cardiff I'm going through what my daughter refers to as a

post doc 'fund dry' period!

I did a process to outcome study of the interpersonal skills to

promote health in health visiting within the question of why this

type of activity is difficult to evaluate. I am currently writing

papers from my thesis and working up a follow on proposal and looking

for opportunities to use my research skills.

I'd like to discuss what to write up for the Community Practitioner.

Who should I talk to?

Its a crazy system when one has developed research skills alongside

health visiting and can't direct them until you also secure the money

to fund further research. There were some comments a way back on the

list about doing more research in health visiting but my feeling is

that unless there is a clear career path through education and into

community practice that nurtures and supports aspiring nurse

researchers through links to appropriate resources it will always be a

bit of a hit and miss activity.

I value the SENATE list to keep aware of current issues and welcome

ideas from members about funding sources and research priorities

within the effectiveness/outcome field. I am especially interested in

the views of service users on outcomes and the congruence between

these and other stakeholders' views.

, I'm interested in your reference to research needed to evaluate

the DOH health visiting/school nursing development programme. Can you

give me a contact for further enquiries?

Could Margret Buttigieg tell me more about the project officer job or

who I can contact? I was in at the beginning of the review of health

visiting and school nursing in Wales at the scoping stage with

reporting the response from the CPHVA, Wales.

If anyone knows of projects that want research/evaluation support, do

put me touch.

Coles

Hon Research Associate

Nursing, Health and Social Care Research Centre, UWCM, Cardiff

contact via e-mail ColesEW@... or telephone 01446 760776

anytime.

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Details of the 'Health Action Zone Fellowship Scheme' are on the HAZ

website at www.haznet.org.uk . It is important that you make contact

early on with a specific Zone, who will back your bid. The deadline

is close (October 20th) but the forms are short.

Good luck,

Woody.

> Woody

>

> thanks for the info. Do you know where I can find out more

> about the HAZ posts?

>

>

>

> egroups

> From: woody@p...

> Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 14:20:16 -0000

> Reply-to: egroups

> Subject: Re: projects,research and papers

>

> Dear et al,

>

> Good luck with the ESRC- the Small Area Research Group here at UCL

is

> planning a multi-disciplinary bid, too. Meanwhile, two sources of

> funding for HV/SN research occur to me:

>

> 1. the Health Action Zones are offering short term (6 month)

> Fellowships. While Cardiff does not yet have a HAZ, nearby bits of

> England do.

>

> 2. NHS R & D are about to advertise Career Scientist posts in Public

> Health, up to 5 years post-doctoral funding. Prof. C. ,

> Northern & Yorkshire Regional Director of R & D and lead on the NHS

R & D

> workforce described these in a talk to the RCN's centre for policy

on

> nursing research this June 27th. If the Career Scientist pilots for

> Primary Care in 1999 are anything to go by, it it most important for

> clinical researchers with PhD.s to negotiate EARLY ON with academic

> 'centres of excellence' (King's? Nottingham? Manchester? **) to

> prepare the case for a Career award: both the person and the

research

> environment are crucial !

>

> All the very best,

> Woody.

>

> ** P.S. the International Centre for Health and Society here at UCL

> is a " five star " environment, if HVs/SNs are interested....

[Guest guest]

Dear Margaret and ,

Fiona Ross, Professor of Nursing at Kingston University, wrote the

nursing chapter of Prof. Mant's second (1999) report on R & D in

primary care for the NHS Executive. Fiona might make a good ally for

the ESRC proposal, or at least agree to comment on a draft proposal

for the SENATE ?

Good luck,

Woody.

> SArah,

>

> I am sure you are right about the Mant report. mant was the

research

> and devleopment director at the SW Regional Office fpr some of time

I was

> there as the regional nurse. He and I used to talk about this

problem and I

> flagged it up with him on many occassions as I was aware of the

problems

> people like and others I knewhad experienced.

>

> He is an academic GP by background and now at Oxford - he might be

a useful

> contact and ally.

>

> Margaret

> Re: projects,research and papers

>

>

> > Dear All

> > As as non-practising Health Visitor with a PhD now working as a

> > Research Fellow in Primary Care, I would be very interested in

> > helping with your bid to the ESRC. I'm sure the absence of a

career

> > structure for community nurses with research experience was

> > identified a while ago by the MANT report (97/98?).

> > I will be at the CPHVA conference in Harrogate

> >

> > Dr Redsell

> > Research Fellow

> > CGRDU

> > General Practice and Primary Health Care

> > University of Leicester

> > Leicester General Hospital

> > Gwendolen Road

> > Leicester LE5 4PW

> >

> > Telephone 0116 258 4437

> > Fax 0116 258 4873

> > http://www.le.ac.uk/cgrdu/

> >

> > Email Work sr59@l...

> > Email Personal redsell@h...

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Do we ned to arrange a place for all of us interested in the ESRC

thing to meet t Harrogate?

Ros

[Guest guest]

That sounds like a good idea. I have no preference about time and

location (except that the train service from Nottingham makes it

impossible to arrive before 10.30 am on the 19th)

Thanks

Dr Redsell

Research Fellow

CGRDU

General Practice and Primary Health Care

University of Leicester

Leicester General Hospital

Gwendolen Road

Leicester LE5 4PW

Telephone 0116 258 4437

Fax 0116 258 4873

http://www.le.ac.uk/cgrdu/

Email Work sr59@...

Email Personal redsell@...

[Guest guest]

That sounds like a good idea to me. If there is a shortage of space, we can

use our place which is about 15 minuttes walk from the conference centre.

the bar might also be a good alternative!

R.M.Bryar@... wrote:

> Do we ned to arrange a place for all of us interested in the ESRC

> thing to meet t Harrogate?

>

> Ros

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Won't be accessing email again until Tuesday so can you sort out

time and place to meet on 19th or later.

Ros

[Guest guest]

very sorry not to be with you all to discuss the ESRC

proposal at the conference. Count me in for future

discussions. I have a copy of the information and forms so

can discuss as you go via e-mail if that helps.

The good news is that I have a research job in the academic

Child Health dept. here at UWCM (temp, 6 months) working

on social and educational outcomes of 'shaken baby'

syndrome. Am also continuing to work up a proposal on

users views of outcomes in health visiting in the Nursing

Research Centre.

Beat wishes to all

Organization: University of York

egroups

From: " Kelsey, A. " <agk1@...>

Date sent: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:43:51 +0100

Send reply to: egroups

Subject: Re: projects,research and papers

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That sounds like a good idea to me. If there is a shortage of space, we can

use our place which is about 15 minuttes walk from the conference centre.

the bar might also be a good alternative!

R.M.Bryar@... wrote:

> Do we ned to arrange a place for all of us interested in the ESRC

> thing to meet t Harrogate?

>

> Ros

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Many congratulations on the job, . Good luck with the proposal.

Coles wrote:

> very sorry not to be with you all to discuss the ESRC

> proposal at the conference. Count me in for future

> discussions. I have a copy of the information and forms so

> can discuss as you go via e-mail if that helps.

>

> The good news is that I have a research job in the academic

> Child Health dept. here at UWCM (temp, 6 months) working

> on social and educational outcomes of 'shaken baby'

> syndrome. Am also continuing to work up a proposal on

> users views of outcomes in health visiting in the Nursing

> Research Centre.

> Beat wishes to all

>

>

> Organization: University of York

> egroups

> From: " Kelsey, A. " <agk1@...>

> Date sent: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:43:51 +0100

> Send reply to: egroups

> Subject: Re: projects,research and papers

>

> [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ]

>

> That sounds like a good idea to me. If there is a shortage of space, we can

> use our place which is about 15 minuttes walk from the conference centre.

> the bar might also be a good alternative!

>

>

>

> R.M.Bryar@... wrote:

>

> > Do we ned to arrange a place for all of us interested in the ESRC

> > thing to meet t Harrogate?

> >

> > Ros

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

congratulations on getting, at least a 6/12 post. At least it gives

you breathing space!

Toity

On Sat, 14 Oct 2000 13:26:49 GMT0BST Coles <colesew@...>

wrote:

>

> very sorry not to be with you all to discuss the ESRC

> proposal at the conference. Count me in for future

> discussions. I have a copy of the information and forms so

> can discuss as you go via e-mail if that helps.

>

> The good news is that I have a research job in the academic

> Child Health dept. here at UWCM (temp, 6 months) working

> on social and educational outcomes of 'shaken baby'

> syndrome. Am also continuing to work up a proposal on

> users views of outcomes in health visiting in the Nursing

> Research Centre.

> Beat wishes to all

>

>

>

>

>

> Organization: University of York

> egroups

> From: " Kelsey, A. " <agk1@...>

> Date sent: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:43:51 +0100

> Send reply to: egroups

> Subject: Re: projects,research and papers

>

> [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ]

>

> That sounds like a good idea to me. If there is a shortage of space, we can

> use our place which is about 15 minuttes walk from the conference centre.

> the bar might also be a good alternative!

>

>

>

> R.M.Bryar@... wrote:

>

> > Do we ned to arrange a place for all of us interested in the ESRC

> > thing to meet t Harrogate?

> >

> > Ros

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry that you won't be at the conference BUT congratulations on the job!

it sounds like an interesting project, too.

Best wishes

Coles wrote:

> very sorry not to be with you all to discuss the ESRC

> proposal at the conference. Count me in for future

> discussions. I have a copy of the information and forms so

> can discuss as you go via e-mail if that helps.

>

> The good news is that I have a research job in the academic

> Child Health dept. here at UWCM (temp, 6 months) working

> on social and educational outcomes of 'shaken baby'

> syndrome. Am also continuing to work up a proposal on

> users views of outcomes in health visiting in the Nursing

> Research Centre.

> Beat wishes to all

>

>

> Organization: University of York

> egroups

> From: " Kelsey, A. " <agk1@...>

> Date sent: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:43:51 +0100

> Send reply to: egroups

> Subject: Re: projects,research and papers

>

> [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ]

>

> That sounds like a good idea to me. If there is a shortage of space, we can

> use our place which is about 15 minuttes walk from the conference centre.

> the bar might also be a good alternative!

>

>

>

> R.M.Bryar@... wrote:

>

> > Do we ned to arrange a place for all of us interested in the ESRC

> > thing to meet t Harrogate?

> >

> > Ros

> >

> >

> >