Re: Squats (was Hypertension)

[Guest guest]

In 2000 I had arthroscopic knee surgery to repair some cartilage and

remove some cartilage. I would not do any type of full flexion squat.

It's very stressful on the knee joint (both the ligaments and the

cartilage) to do any squat further than knees parallel to the floor. I

also avoid any exercise where my knee ends up in front of my toes. I

wish I had know about that before I injured my knee. Perhaps I could

have prevented the injury. BTW, I do think that one legged squats are

a great way to develop power, balance, and coordination . . . just not

performed ankle-to-ass.

Best regards,

Celeste

Dave Narby wrote:

> How many one legged squats can you do? I'm talking full-

extension, ankle-to-ass

> to up-on-your- toes, no-help-with-balancing squats. Just curious.

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[Guest guest]

Well for me, if I don't bounce at the bottom they don't hurt my knees. Not like

I'm pumping out the one-legged squats anyway, mind you... ; )

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| In 2000 I had arthroscopic knee surgery to repair some cartilage and

| remove some cartilage. I would not do any type of full flexion squat.

| It's very stressful on the knee joint (both the ligaments and the

| cartilage) to do any squat further than knees parallel to the floor. I

| also avoid any exercise where my knee ends up in front of my toes. I

| wish I had know about that before I injured my knee. Perhaps I could

| have prevented the injury. BTW, I do think that one legged squats are

| a great way to develop power, balance, and coordination . . . just not

| performed ankle-to-ass.

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| Best regards,

| Celeste

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| Dave Narby wrote:

| > How many one legged squats can you do? I'm talking full-

| extension, ankle-to-ass

| > to up-on-your- toes, no-help-with-balancing squats. Just curious.

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| Note: This forum is for discussion of health related subjects but under no

circumstances should any information published here be considered a substitute

for personal medical advice from a qualified physician. -the owner

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[Guest guest]

As someone who loves squats, I totally agree. (I weight 170 and

squat twice my body weight for 8 reps.) I NEVER let my thighs go

below parallel, as that's just asking for knee trouble. Yet most

people who squat go lower than this, thinking it's better for

building strength, but it's not.

The other day in the gym I say a tall guy, wearing a college

basketball short (so I assume he plays in college) doing squats and

jumping up at the top! He's get about 8-10 inches off the ground,

land and immediately squat again. If only he could see the

dangerous compression force on his spine as did this! And the sad

thing was that a LifeTime Fitness trainer was right there

watching/spotting him. Just goes to show that even trainers cannot

be trusted to tell you how to do the right (and safe) movements.

> > How many one legged squats can you do? I'm talking full-

> extension, ankle-to-ass

> > to up-on-your- toes, no-help-with-balancing squats. Just curious.

> >

[Guest guest]

If you want an enlightening experience, try holding 25 lb. dumbbells and doing

squat-jumps. You can use your arms to lower the weight on the landing so you

don't have to worry about stressing your knee joints.

Try doing it for about 2 minutes straight at speed, heh-heh...

Best,

Dave

PS I don't use weight with low squats.

| As someone who loves squats, I totally agree. (I weight 170 and

| squat twice my body weight for 8 reps.) I NEVER let my thighs go

| below parallel, as that's just asking for knee trouble. Yet most

| people who squat go lower than this, thinking it's better for

| building strength, but it's not.

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| The other day in the gym I say a tall guy, wearing a college

| basketball short (so I assume he plays in college) doing squats and

| jumping up at the top! He's get about 8-10 inches off the ground,

| land and immediately squat again. If only he could see the

| dangerous compression force on his spine as did this! And the sad

| thing was that a LifeTime Fitness trainer was right there

| watching/spotting him. Just goes to show that even trainers cannot

| be trusted to tell you how to do the right (and safe) movements.

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| > > How many one legged squats can you do? I'm talking full-

| > extension, ankle-to-ass

| > > to up-on-your- toes, no-help-with-balancing squats. Just curious.

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| Note: This forum is for discussion of health related subjects but under no

circumstances should any information published here be considered a substitute

for personal medical advice from a qualified physician. -the owner

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[Guest guest]

Dave,

You really don't want to keep your joints intact for the rest of your

life, do you?

BTW, you are *always* using weight with low squats. Do you think your

body doesn't weigh anything?

Best regards,

Celeste

Dave Narby wrote:

> If you want an enlightening experience, try holding 25 lb. dumbbells

and doing

> squat-jumps. You can use your arms to lower the weight on the

landing so you

> don't have to worry about stressing your knee joints.

>

> PS I don't use weight with low squats.

[Guest guest]

| Dave,

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| You really don't want to keep your joints intact for the rest of your

| life, do you?

So far so good.

| BTW, you are *always* using weight with low squats. Do you think your

| body doesn't weigh anything?

Find me ONE person who screwed up their knees out doing ONLY bodyweight full

range squats, and I'll be more inclined to seriously consider the " half-assed "

squat camp.

Best regards,

Dave

[Guest guest]

One person would be me. I was coming up from a full squat (no weight

other than my own) when the cartilage in my knee tore (with part of it

getting stuck in my knee joint). I was unable to straighten my knee

until after my surgery. No fun.

Best regards,

Celeste

Dave Narby wrote:

> Find me ONE person who screwed up their knees out doing ONLY

bodyweight full

> range squats, and I'll be more inclined to seriously consider the

" half-assed "

> squat camp.

[Guest guest]

Sorry to hear that.

What was your training regimen before you blew out your knee?

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| One person would be me. I was coming up from a full squat (no weight

| other than my own) when the cartilage in my knee tore (with part of it

| getting stuck in my knee joint). I was unable to straighten my knee

| until after my surgery. No fun.

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| Best regards,

| Celeste

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| Dave Narby wrote:

| > Find me ONE person who screwed up their knees out doing ONLY

| bodyweight full

| > range squats, and I'll be more inclined to seriously consider the

| " half-assed "

| > squat camp.

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| Note: This forum is for discussion of health related subjects but under no

circumstances should any information published here be considered a substitute

for personal medical advice from a qualified physician. -the owner

|

[Guest guest]

Well, that was a little too long ago to recall what my training

regimen was at that time. I do a lot of different things. One thing I

was doing was rehearsing to be on an exercise show on TV. Instead I

had my surgery on the day the show was taped.

I am a big fan of weight training, resistance training, and

weight-bearing exercise, though. A few months ago I had my first bone

mineral density test. It turns out that I have the bone density of a

woman more than 20 years younger than I am. So overall I wouldn't

trade what I've done in terms of training.

Last night while I was at the gym on the military base where I work I

noticed a sign for an upcoming bench press competition next month. For

the women the competition will be won by whoever can do the most reps

of a barbell loaded with half her bodyweight (following an official

weigh-in). Just for the hell of it I thought I would see how many reps

I could do so I loaded up the barbell with 75 pounds and did 40 reps.

Since I was not yet at the point of failure (but definitely getting

there) I think I'll enter the competition. I figure it would be fun to

do at least 1 rep for each year of my life. It shouldn't be difficult

for me to work up do that by February 18.

Best regards,

Celeste

Dave Narby wrote:

> Sorry to hear that.

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> What was your training regimen before you blew out your knee?

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> Celeste wrote:

> | One person would be me. I was coming up from a full squat (no weight

> | other than my own) when the cartilage in my knee tore (with part of it

> | getting stuck in my knee joint). I was unable to straighten my knee

> | until after my surgery. No fun.