Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 , Great workout! Definitely take advantage of the free session with the trainer, but be aware that he is going to try and sell you ongoing training. If he gets too pushy with it tell him that you don't want to pay for a trainer who doesn't have the decency to show up or call when you've scheduled appointments. He may offer you more free sessions to get you to sign up. (I'm a trainer who can't stand unprofessionalism in other trainers, can you tell? Being a real person is one thing, having fun while you train, being friends with your clients, etc. helps your business, but rudeness like not showing up and not calling, is unacceptable.) As far as during the session, make sure you get copies of everything, especially if you sign it. A true pro will have more then one copy of contracts should you decide to do more then one session with them, so that you have recourse if they don't do as they say they will. You also want copies of the forms they use for your assessment so even if you don't go with them again, you have records of where you are today so that you can compare it to where you are a few months down the road. Some trainers will write two copies, some will take it and type it up for you (this is what I do), but either way, they should at the very least let you copy down the numbers. Once you have that info, let me know and I'll be glad to help you apply it to your nutrition and exercise plan to get the best results. Depending on how they do the body fat analysis, you may want to look at a couple of other things. TOM will have a negative effect on the readout of the handheld machines or the scales that do body fat. Low hydration levels will also have an negative effect on those. If they do the calipers, these will have less of an effect, but over hydration will cause a negative effect because of water retention in the cells causing them to pinch thicker. Definitely eat first, even if it is just something light because some trainers do an extensive physical test. My clients tell me the testing is harder then the actual workouts I give them later, but that is because the tests are designed to push the limits to determine maximum fitness levels. You can't do your best on those tests with no fuel. You may want to do a light warm up and stretch that morning, but nothing too strenuous that will keep your heart rate up too high. You may be doing pulse and blood pressure checks so you don't want your heart rate elevated by exercise or your morning coffee. Those things will cause inaccurate readings on the cardio tests too. You will want to be somewhat stretched out though for any flexibility tests. Typically, what I do with a new client is begin by sitting them down and having them fill out the health screening and liability forms. Then I do pulse, blood pressure, weight, body fat, and measurements. I follow that with a 3 minute step test to test cardio and warm them up all at once. Next I do a series of three flexibility tests, sit and reach, hip joint and inner thigh, and shoulder reach. Then comes the strength tests. First a one rep max on the chest press, then a one rep max on the leg press, if those machines are available. These can also be done with a bench press or squat and free weights. Then I go into a one minute timed test for chest press or push ups and a one minute timed crunches for muscular endurance. Finally, I finish it up with 12 minutes on the treadmill as the final cardio test and have them cool down. I then go over all the results with them letting them know the areas where they were excellent first and then telling them where we need to focus training to get improvements. Not all trainers do every one of these tests. I do them because they give me a good well-rounded look at the client so I can design a better program for them. Some trainers don't do any tests. This is just an idea of what to expect, but just know that it is all up to the trainer you get as to what they do. Definitely ask them about their background though, who they are certified through, etc. Don't work with anyone with whom you feel uncomfortable about their fitness knowledge. There are too many trainers out there with no basis for their being a trainer other then they like the gym. This is fine if you have the same goals and limitations they do, but if you get a trainer who likes bodybuilding and you want to do cardio, you're in trouble because without the certifications, they have no clue what do to for you. I'm too longwinded, huh? What can I say, I love my job. I'll keep blabbering if you have any more questions. Tonya 's workout I am guessing everyone posts their activity everyday. So here goes.... Today I did 45 minutes of Taebo (Ultimate Bootcamp) and 30 minutes on the treadmill (fast walk). Good workout! I bought a home gym and tomorrow a personal trainer is coming to give me a free orientation and fat analysis, etc. This is the 3rd time I have scheduled with this place. The first 2 times the trainer never showed and never called. But it is free, so.... Any advice on how to get the most out of the trainer while he is here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 In a message dated 7/4/2006 11:32:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time, mslightning@... writes: , Great workout! Definitely take advantage of the free session with the trainer, but be aware that he is going to try and sell you ongoing training. If he gets too pushy with it tell him that you don't want to pay for a trainer who doesn't have the decency to show up or call when you've scheduled appointments. He may offer you more free sessions to get you to sign up. (I'm a trainer who can't stand unprofessionalism in other trainers, can you tell? Being a real person is one thing, having fun while you train, being friends with your clients, etc. helps your business, but rudeness like not showing up and not calling, is unacceptable.) Tonya: You are awesome! I wish I had you as a trainer. Can you believe that the trainer did not show up or call AGAIN!!! This is the 3rd time. They are going to hear from me. I know it is the 4th of July but the lady told me that the trainer works today and he would be here. I am so disappointed. I was looking forward to mapping out a plan with him. Would you be able to help me with that? If so, let me know how much you charge. By the way, how are you feeling? I hope you abs are feeling better. Thanks for taking the time to always give me such great answers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Tonya,I have a couple of questions - for your flexibility tests, how do you perform the shoujlder one, and the hip joint and inner thigh one?Also, I am confused on the 1 rep max. I'm not quite understanding it. I don't have a machine at all, so what could I do for lower body testing? How about a wall squat? Thanks!DarcyOn 7/4/06, Tonya - <mslightning@...> wrote: , Great workout! Definitely take advantage of the free session with the trainer, but be aware that he is going to try and sell you ongoing training. If he gets too pushy with it tell him that you don't want to pay for a trainer who doesn't have the decency to show up or call when you've scheduled appointments. He may offer you more free sessions to get you to sign up. (I'm a trainer who can't stand unprofessionalism in other trainers, can you tell? Being a real person is one thing, having fun while you train, being friends with your clients, etc. helps your business, but rudeness like not showing up and not calling, is unacceptable.) As far as during the session, make sure you get copies of everything, especially if you sign it. A true pro will have more then one copy of contracts should you decide to do more then one session with them, so that you have recourse if they don't do as they say they will. You also want copies of the forms they use for your assessment so even if you don't go with them again, you have records of where you are today so that you can compare it to where you are a few months down the road. Some trainers will write two copies, some will take it and type it up for you (this is what I do), but either way, they should at the very least let you copy down the numbers. Once you have that info, let me know and I'll be glad to help you apply it to your nutrition and exercise plan to get the best results. Depending on how they do the body fat analysis, you may want to look at a couple of other things. TOM will have a negative effect on the readout of the handheld machines or the scales that do body fat. Low hydration levels will also have an negative effect on those. If they do the calipers, these will have less of an effect, but over hydration will cause a negative effect because of water retention in the cells causing them to pinch thicker. Definitely eat first, even if it is just something light because some trainers do an extensive physical test. My clients tell me the testing is harder then the actual workouts I give them later, but that is because the tests are designed to push the limits to determine maximum fitness levels. You can't do your best on those tests with no fuel. You may want to do a light warm up and stretch that morning, but nothing too strenuous that will keep your heart rate up too high. You may be doing pulse and blood pressure checks so you don't want your heart rate elevated by exercise or your morning coffee. Those things will cause inaccurate readings on the cardio tests too. You will want to be somewhat stretched out though for any flexibility tests. Typically, what I do with a new client is begin by sitting them down and having them fill out the health screening and liability forms. Then I do pulse, blood pressure, weight, body fat, and measurements. I follow that with a 3 minute step test to test cardio and warm them up all at once. Next I do a series of three flexibility tests, sit and reach, hip joint and inner thigh, and shoulder reach. Then comes the strength tests. First a one rep max on the chest press, then a one rep max on the leg press, if those machines are available. These can also be done with a bench press or squat and free weights. Then I go into a one minute timed test for chest press or push ups and a one minute timed crunches for muscular endurance. Finally, I finish it up with 12 minutes on the treadmill as the final cardio test and have them cool down. I then go over all the results with them letting them know the areas where they were excellent first and then telling them where we need to focus training to get improvements. Not all trainers do every one of these tests. I do them because they give me a good well-rounded look at the client so I can design a better program for them. Some trainers don't do any tests. This is just an idea of what to expect, but just know that it is all up to the trainer you get as to what they do. Definitely ask them about their background though, who they are certified through, etc. Don't work with anyone with whom you feel uncomfortable about their fitness knowledge. There are too many trainers out there with no basis for their being a trainer other then they like the gym. This is fine if you have the same goals and limitations they do, but if you get a trainer who likes bodybuilding and you want to do cardio, you're in trouble because without the certifications, they have no clue what do to for you. I'm too longwinded, huh? What can I say, I love my job. I'll keep blabbering if you have any more questions. Tonya 's workout I am guessing everyone posts their activity everyday. So here goes.... Today I did 45 minutes of Taebo (Ultimate Bootcamp) and 30 minutes on the treadmill (fast walk). Good workout! I bought a home gym and tomorrow a personal trainer is coming to give me a free orientation and fat analysis, etc. This is the 3rd time I have scheduled with this place. The first 2 times the trainer never showed and never called. But it is free, so.... Any advice on how to get the most out of the trainer while he is here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Oh, also, I'm using a heart rate monitor on my client and am wondering how I go about getting a reading after the step-test? Do I wait one minute and then see where their heart rate is at? That's what I'm guessing...... DarcyOn 7/4/06, Tonya - <mslightning@...> wrote: , Great workout! Definitely take advantage of the free session with the trainer, but be aware that he is going to try and sell you ongoing training. If he gets too pushy with it tell him that you don't want to pay for a trainer who doesn't have the decency to show up or call when you've scheduled appointments. He may offer you more free sessions to get you to sign up. (I'm a trainer who can't stand unprofessionalism in other trainers, can you tell? Being a real person is one thing, having fun while you train, being friends with your clients, etc. helps your business, but rudeness like not showing up and not calling, is unacceptable.) As far as during the session, make sure you get copies of everything, especially if you sign it. A true pro will have more then one copy of contracts should you decide to do more then one session with them, so that you have recourse if they don't do as they say they will. You also want copies of the forms they use for your assessment so even if you don't go with them again, you have records of where you are today so that you can compare it to where you are a few months down the road. Some trainers will write two copies, some will take it and type it up for you (this is what I do), but either way, they should at the very least let you copy down the numbers. Once you have that info, let me know and I'll be glad to help you apply it to your nutrition and exercise plan to get the best results. Depending on how they do the body fat analysis, you may want to look at a couple of other things. TOM will have a negative effect on the readout of the handheld machines or the scales that do body fat. Low hydration levels will also have an negative effect on those. If they do the calipers, these will have less of an effect, but over hydration will cause a negative effect because of water retention in the cells causing them to pinch thicker. Definitely eat first, even if it is just something light because some trainers do an extensive physical test. My clients tell me the testing is harder then the actual workouts I give them later, but that is because the tests are designed to push the limits to determine maximum fitness levels. You can't do your best on those tests with no fuel. You may want to do a light warm up and stretch that morning, but nothing too strenuous that will keep your heart rate up too high. You may be doing pulse and blood pressure checks so you don't want your heart rate elevated by exercise or your morning coffee. Those things will cause inaccurate readings on the cardio tests too. You will want to be somewhat stretched out though for any flexibility tests. Typically, what I do with a new client is begin by sitting them down and having them fill out the health screening and liability forms. Then I do pulse, blood pressure, weight, body fat, and measurements. I follow that with a 3 minute step test to test cardio and warm them up all at once. Next I do a series of three flexibility tests, sit and reach, hip joint and inner thigh, and shoulder reach. Then comes the strength tests. First a one rep max on the chest press, then a one rep max on the leg press, if those machines are available. These can also be done with a bench press or squat and free weights. Then I go into a one minute timed test for chest press or push ups and a one minute timed crunches for muscular endurance. Finally, I finish it up with 12 minutes on the treadmill as the final cardio test and have them cool down. I then go over all the results with them letting them know the areas where they were excellent first and then telling them where we need to focus training to get improvements. Not all trainers do every one of these tests. I do them because they give me a good well-rounded look at the client so I can design a better program for them. Some trainers don't do any tests. This is just an idea of what to expect, but just know that it is all up to the trainer you get as to what they do. Definitely ask them about their background though, who they are certified through, etc. Don't work with anyone with whom you feel uncomfortable about their fitness knowledge. There are too many trainers out there with no basis for their being a trainer other then they like the gym. This is fine if you have the same goals and limitations they do, but if you get a trainer who likes bodybuilding and you want to do cardio, you're in trouble because without the certifications, they have no clue what do to for you. I'm too longwinded, huh? What can I say, I love my job. I'll keep blabbering if you have any more questions. Tonya 's workout I am guessing everyone posts their activity everyday. So here goes.... Today I did 45 minutes of Taebo (Ultimate Bootcamp) and 30 minutes on the treadmill (fast walk). Good workout! I bought a home gym and tomorrow a personal trainer is coming to give me a free orientation and fat analysis, etc. This is the 3rd time I have scheduled with this place. The first 2 times the trainer never showed and never called. But it is free, so.... Any advice on how to get the most out of the trainer while he is here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 ONE more question (for now). When you sell 1/2 hour sessions, what are you able to cover in just 30 minutes? I suppose it depends on the client, but do you sell a lot of short sessions like that?Hope I'm not pestering you too much! Darcy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 , Definitely call and complain. That is rediculous. Yes, I can definitely help you. I would hate to charge you my rates for personal training though, because I'm not actually there to train you. I guess I need to start an online training business. If I send you some directions, can you administer some fitness tests on yourself? Or have a friend or family member help you? I also use to have a body fat calculator based on circumference measurements so you don't have to do calipers, but I'll have to see if I have it on my new computer or I may have to find it again because my old computer died a horrible and electrofying death...LOL. But I'll get all of that together and see what I can send you to do the tests so I can set up a program for you. Tonya Re: 's workout In a message dated 7/4/2006 11:32:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time, mslightning@... writes: , Great workout! Definitely take advantage of the free session with the trainer, but be aware that he is going to try and sell you ongoing training. If he gets too pushy with it tell him that you don't want to pay for a trainer who doesn't have the decency to show up or call when you've scheduled appointments. He may offer you more free sessions to get you to sign up. (I'm a trainer who can't stand unprofessionalism in other trainers, can you tell? Being a real person is one thing, having fun while you train, being friends with your clients, etc. helps your business, but rudeness like not showing up and not calling, is unacceptable.) Tonya: You are awesome! I wish I had you as a trainer. Can you believe that the trainer did not show up or call AGAIN!!! This is the 3rd time. They are going to hear from me. I know it is the 4th of July but the lady told me that the trainer works today and he would be here. I am so disappointed. I was looking forward to mapping out a plan with him. Would you be able to help me with that? If so, let me know how much you charge. By the way, how are you feeling? I hope you abs are feeling better. Thanks for taking the time to always give me such great answers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Darcy, Shoulder Joint Flexibility--one arm reaches up and one arm reaches down. Bend at the elbows and try to touch the fingers in the middle of the back. Measure the distance between the fingertips. Excellent is the fingers can touch. Good is the fingertips are 1-2 inches apart. Fair is the fingertips are more then 2 inches apart. Hip Joint and Inner Thigh Flexibility--seated with the heels of the feet together, have the client press their knees down toward the floor as far as they can. Measure the distance between the middle of the kneecap and the floor. Excellent is knees touch the surface of the floor. Good is knees 6 inches or less from the floor. Fair is knees more then 6 inches from the floor. As for the 1 rep max tests, just go with a lighter weight on squats and bench press and have the client do as many as they can to failure. Use a regular squat and not a wall squat because the wall gives support and you want their true strength. The formula for figuring the 1 Rep Max is (weight x reps x .03) + weight = 1RM I use a percentage of the 1RM for setting weights for programs. 50-60% of 1RM for squats, leg press, etc. 20-30% of 1RM for leg extensions, curls. 50-60% of 1RM for chest presses, lat pullovers, etc. 20-30% of 1RM for arms and 10% of 1RM for shoulders. Tonya 's workout I am guessing everyone posts their activity everyday. So here goes.... Today I did 45 minutes of Taebo (Ultimate Bootcamp) and 30 minutes on the treadmill (fast walk). Good workout! I bought a home gym and tomorrow a personal trainer is coming to give me a free orientation and fat analysis, etc. This is the 3rd time I have scheduled with this place. The first 2 times the trainer never showed and never called. But it is free, so.... Any advice on how to get the most out of the trainer while he is here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Yeah, that's fine. I typcially have my clients sit down and I take their pulse, but if you're getting good readings with the heart rate monitor then use that. Just never trust the heart rate monitors on cardio machines because they aren't that accurate. Tonya 's workout I am guessing everyone posts their activity everyday. So here goes.... Today I did 45 minutes of Taebo (Ultimate Bootcamp) and 30 minutes on the treadmill (fast walk). Good workout! I bought a home gym and tomorrow a personal trainer is coming to give me a free orientation and fat analysis, etc. This is the 3rd time I have scheduled with this place. The first 2 times the trainer never showed and never called. But it is free, so.... Any advice on how to get the most out of the trainer while he is here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I work with a womens circuit center that bases their workouts on the theory of 30 minutes of circuit training is enough. So I have to sell 30 minute sessions there so that it doesn't counteract their advertising. Typically, I will just do weights and stretching with them and then have them do the cardio on their own for an additional 30 mintues. And no, you aren't pestering me. It helps me feel useful when I'm not able to work out yet. Tonya Re: 's workout ONE more question (for now). When you sell 1/2 hour sessions, what are you able to cover in just 30 minutes? I suppose it depends on the client, but do you sell a lot of short sessions like that?Hope I'm not pestering you too much! Darcy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Sure I can do some tests at home. I am really having difficulty with controlling my eating. I will do well all day and then blow it at night. I need to lose about 30 to 40 pounds and I had lost 18 with Craig and gained 8 back after I stopped following the plan. I got bored. I can't figure out how to eat. Any help would be much appreciated! Have a great night! In a message dated 7/5/2006 2:46:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mslightning@... writes: , Definitely call and complain. That is rediculous. Yes, I can definitely help you. I would hate to charge you my rates for personal training though, because I'm not actually there to train you. I guess I need to start an online training business. If I send you some directions, can you administer some fitness tests on yourself? Or have a friend or family member help you? I also use to have a body fat calculator based on circumference measurements so you don't have to do calipers, but I'll have to see if I have it on my new computer or I may have to find it again because my old computer died a horrible and electrofying death...LOL. But I'll get all of that together and see what I can send you to do the tests so I can set up a program for you. Tonya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Okay, I got the 1RM now! I'm such a dork...LOL.. Can you give me a ballpark figure what you have your clients do for pounds? I mean, I'm sure it varies, but what's a good weight to start with for your average woman, average man? My luck is I would choose something too light and they'd do 20 reps..LOL.. I understand the stretching tests now too, exccept for the hip joint one, You are seatedon the floor with your legs bent right? How far should your feet be from your butt? Or does it matter? Or am I way off..LOL... Also, do you use a metronome for the step test? Any advice on what to get or not to get?? I see there is quite a price range.One more (sorry)... Say you have a client who answers yes to a coupleof your questions on your health survey, do you turn them down, or contact their doctor or what do you do if someone isn't in perfect health. You are MORE THAN USEFUL, you're awesome. Thank you tons and tons for all your help!DarcyOn 7/5/06, Tonya - < mslightning@...> wrote: Darcy, Shoulder Joint Flexibility--one arm reaches up and one arm reaches down. Bend at the elbows and try to touch the fingers in the middle of the back. Measure the distance between the fingertips. Excellent is the fingers can touch. Good is the fingertips are 1-2 inches apart. Fair is the fingertips are more then 2 inches apart. Hip Joint and Inner Thigh Flexibility--seated with the heels of the feet together, have the client press their knees down toward the floor as far as they can. Measure the distance between the middle of the kneecap and the floor. Excellent is knees touch the surface of the floor. Good is knees 6 inches or less from the floor. Fair is knees more then 6 inches from the floor. As for the 1 rep max tests, just go with a lighter weight on squats and bench press and have the client do as many as they can to failure. Use a regular squat and not a wall squat because the wall gives support and you want their true strength. The formula for figuring the 1 Rep Max is (weight x reps x .03) + weight = 1RM I use a percentage of the 1RM for setting weights for programs. 50-60% of 1RM for squats, leg press, etc. 20-30% of 1RM for leg extensions, curls. 50-60% of 1RM for chest presses, lat pullovers, etc. 20-30% of 1RM for arms and 10% of 1RM for shoulders. Tonya 's workout I am guessing everyone posts their activity everyday. So here goes.... Today I did 45 minutes of Taebo (Ultimate Bootcamp) and 30 minutes on the treadmill (fast walk). Good workout! I bought a home gym and tomorrow a personal trainer is coming to give me a free orientation and fat analysis, etc. This is the 3rd time I have scheduled with this place. The first 2 times the trainer never showed and never called. But it is free, so.... Any advice on how to get the most out of the trainer while he is here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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