Guest guest Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 So THAT'S why I always prefer dark chocolate... http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/12/041217104020.htm Scientists Discover Recipe For Life: Eating The 'Polymeal' Cuts Heart Disease By 76% Scientists in this week's Christmas issue of the BMJ have discovered the 'Polymeal', a set of ingredients which cuts the risk of heart (cardiovascular) disease by 76% and significantly increases life expectancy. Results of dining on the Polymeal were most dramatic for men, who were projected to live on average 6.6 years longer in total than those not eating the meal. Men will also live for nine years longer without succumbing to heart disease, and those that do will suffer it for less years of their lives. Women eating the Polymeal will also live significantly longer, nearly five years more than women not eating the meal. They will also put off the onset of heart disease for eight years longer. The Polymeal includes wine, fish, dark chocolate, fruits and vegetables, almonds and garlic, eaten on a daily basis (but four times a week for fish). Scientists reviewed the medical literature on how much each ingredient cuts heart disease, blood pressure or cholesterol levels by varying amounts, (150ml wine daily for instance reduces heart disease by 32%) and worked out the combined effect of the ingredients. They then calculated the potential effect across an ongoing study of American adults. The findings follow research last year (2003) into a 'Polypill', a combination of drugs taken in one dose which was designed to reduce heart disease by more than 80%. The authors of the Polymeal study were searching for a non-pharmaceutical alternative. In Western society we are all at risk from the causes of cardiovascular disease, say the authors, and the diseases that accompany it. Following the Polymeal promises to be an effective, non-pharmacological, safe and tasty means to increasing life expectancy and reducing heart disease across the population, they conclude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Now this sounds like a dietary approach that I could thrive on! I also found a site that provides polymeal recipes and menus. Take a look at http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/eletters/329/7480/0-f Yum yum! Best regards, Celeste Dave N. wrote: > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/12/041217104020.htm > > Scientists Discover Recipe For Life: Eating The 'Polymeal' Cuts Heart Disease By > 76% > Scientists in this week's Christmas issue of the BMJ have discovered the > 'Polymeal', a set of ingredients which cuts the risk of heart (cardiovascular) > disease by 76% and significantly increases life expectancy. > > Results of dining on the Polymeal were most dramatic for men, who were projected > to live on average 6.6 years longer in total than those not eating the meal. Men > will also live for nine years longer without succumbing to heart disease, and > those that do will suffer it for less years of their lives. > Women eating the Polymeal will also live significantly longer, nearly five years > more than women not eating the meal. They will also put off the onset of heart > disease for eight years longer. > > The Polymeal includes wine, fish, dark chocolate, fruits and vegetables, almonds > and garlic, eaten on a daily basis (but four times a week for fish). Scientists > reviewed the medical literature on how much each ingredient cuts heart disease, > blood pressure or cholesterol levels by varying amounts, (150ml wine daily for > instance reduces heart disease by 32%) and worked out the combined effect of the > ingredients. They then calculated the potential effect across an ongoing study > of American adults. > > The findings follow research last year (2003) into a 'Polypill', a combination > of drugs taken in one dose which was designed to reduce heart disease by more > than 80%. The authors of the Polymeal study were searching for a > non-pharmaceutical alternative. > > In Western society we are all at risk from the causes of cardiovascular disease, > say the authors, and the diseases that accompany it. Following the Polymeal > promises to be an effective, non-pharmacological, safe and tasty means to > increasing life expectancy and reducing heart disease across the population, > they conclude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Every Christmas the BMJ publishes a Tongue in Cheek article. This is a good one. Re: Eating The 'Polymeal' Cuts Heart Disease By 76% Now this sounds like a dietary approach that I could thrive on! I also found a site that provides polymeal recipes and menus. Take a look at http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/eletters/329/7480/0-f Yum yum! Best regards, Celeste Dave N. wrote: > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/12/041217104020.htm > > Scientists Discover Recipe For Life: Eating The 'Polymeal' Cuts Heart Disease By > 76% > Scientists in this week's Christmas issue of the BMJ have discovered the > 'Polymeal', a set of ingredients which cuts the risk of heart (cardiovascular) > disease by 76% and significantly increases life expectancy. > > Results of dining on the Polymeal were most dramatic for men, who were projected > to live on average 6.6 years longer in total than those not eating the meal. Men > will also live for nine years longer without succumbing to heart disease, and > those that do will suffer it for less years of their lives. > Women eating the Polymeal will also live significantly longer, nearly five years > more than women not eating the meal. They will also put off the onset of heart > disease for eight years longer. > > The Polymeal includes wine, fish, dark chocolate, fruits and vegetables, almonds > and garlic, eaten on a daily basis (but four times a week for fish). Scientists > reviewed the medical literature on how much each ingredient cuts heart disease, > blood pressure or cholesterol levels by varying amounts, (150ml wine daily for > instance reduces heart disease by 32%) and worked out the combined effect of the > ingredients. They then calculated the potential effect across an ongoing study > of American adults. > > The findings follow research last year (2003) into a 'Polypill', a combination > of drugs taken in one dose which was designed to reduce heart disease by more > than 80%. The authors of the Polymeal study were searching for a > non-pharmaceutical alternative. > > In Western society we are all at risk from the causes of cardiovascular disease, > say the authors, and the diseases that accompany it. Following the Polymeal > promises to be an effective, non-pharmacological, safe and tasty means to > increasing life expectancy and reducing heart disease across the population, > they conclude. Note: This forum is for discussion of health related subjects but under no circumstances should any information published here be considered a substitute for personal medical advice from a qualified physician. -the owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 This was not a tongue-in-cheek article, though. This is the real deal. (It's OK, Sharon. I know you're really just kidding.) Additionally, one of the polymeal ingredients (red wine) has been found to reduce the incidence of periodontal disease in seniors (thus further reducing the risk of heart disease). And on the news this morning I heard of a recent study that showed that the regular consumption of whole grains also reduced the incidence of periodontal disease by 25% in the test group. I have been looking for the study, but have not found it yet. I will post it when I do. Best regards, Celeste Sharon wrote: > Every Christmas the BMJ publishes a Tongue in Cheek article. This is a good > one. > > Dave N. wrote: > > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/12/041217104020.htm > > > > Scientists Discover Recipe For Life: Eating The 'Polymeal' Cuts > Heart Disease By > > 76% > > Scientists in this week's Christmas issue of the BMJ have discovered the > > 'Polymeal', a set of ingredients which cuts the risk of heart > (cardiovascular) > > disease by 76% and significantly increases life expectancy. > > > > Results of dining on the Polymeal were most dramatic for men, who > were projected > > to live on average 6.6 years longer in total than those not eating > the meal. Men > > will also live for nine years longer without succumbing to heart > disease, and > > those that do will suffer it for less years of their lives. > > Women eating the Polymeal will also live significantly longer, > nearly five years > > more than women not eating the meal. They will also put off the > onset of heart > > disease for eight years longer. > > > > The Polymeal includes wine, fish, dark chocolate, fruits and > vegetables, almonds > > and garlic, eaten on a daily basis (but four times a week for fish). > Scientists > > reviewed the medical literature on how much each ingredient cuts > heart disease, > > blood pressure or cholesterol levels by varying amounts, (150ml wine > daily for > > instance reduces heart disease by 32%) and worked out the combined > effect of the > > ingredients. They then calculated the potential effect across an > ongoing study > > of American adults. > > > > The findings follow research last year (2003) into a 'Polypill', a > combination > > of drugs taken in one dose which was designed to reduce heart > disease by more > > than 80%. The authors of the Polymeal study were searching for a > > non-pharmaceutical alternative. > > > > In Western society we are all at risk from the causes of > cardiovascular disease, > > say the authors, and the diseases that accompany it. Following the > Polymeal > > promises to be an effective, non-pharmacological, safe and tasty > means to > > increasing life expectancy and reducing heart disease across the > population, > > they conclude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 It's just another educated guess, nothing more, a point that is made by the assumptions the authors had to include as data and the gulf between actual supportive data and the contention that applying this theory WILL cut heart disease by 76%? Here, a quote, " Concerns might be raised about the validity of the source evidence and the multiplicative model used to calculate effects of the ingredients of the Polymeal. However, these are shared by the Polypill analyses, as we used a similar approach. None the less, a greater possibility of interaction exists between dietary factors as less information is available about underlying mechanisms of action. This might result in an overestimation of the effect of the Polymeal. " The abstract reads that its a postulate based on figures from other studies about risk factors. Similarly, the longevity figure is a projection based on the theory. Because no study has been done that might prove the theory, it's pretty bold to come up with a definite figure based on what they have. The researchers haven't even properly addressed inflammatory oil intake or several age related disease factors. For example the following quote belies their less than rudimentary grasp of the inflammatory effect of omega-6 oils: " Some other ingredients could be added to the Polymeal (olive oil, echium oil, soya oil, soya beans, tomatoes, oat bran, cereals, nuts, tea, chickpeas, and so on), but this will only improve its effect on cardiovascular disease risk reduction. " Further, I note the authors recommendation that statin drugs be added to fortified flour, though statins are known to cause wasting of the very organ the authors are trying to protect. Clearly they don't know the first thing about cholesterol's relationship to cardiac risk: There isn't one. Here's the quote: " For those people earnestly seeking to prevent cardiovascular disease, the Polypill can be combined with the Polymeal. The fortification of flour with Polypill ingredients (a statin, two antihypertensive drugs instead of three, folic acid, and aspirin) certainly merits further study. " Does it now? I think the comments beg the question, " is this simply a lark or a study aimed at discovering what can get published as scientific? " , a question even made more understandable considering their final sentence, " Ethical approval: Not needed as this was a secondary data analysis. " Hoo boy! Someone's yanking our chain. Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 > " Sharon " <sharon-anderson@...> wrote: > > Every Christmas the BMJ publishes a Tongue in Cheek article. This is a good > one. Thanks for verifying that, Sharon; I thought it sounded a like a tongue in cheek article but I didn't know the journals printed them. Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 Sharon did not verify anything. All she offered was her own joking opinion. Best regards, Celeste Duncan Crow wrote: > Thanks for verifying that, Sharon; I thought it sounded a like a > tongue in cheek article but I didn't know the journals printed them. > > Sharon wrote: > > Every Christmas the BMJ publishes a Tongue in Cheek article. This is > a good > > one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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