Re: Hypertensive medication

[Guest guest]

There is a Chinese tea in the any China town called

" Cool Tin teä " help lowering the blood pressure you

may want to try.

--- Bill Saxon <vondell@...> wrote:

> I was taking Diovan (10 mg) and over a period of

> time found I had absolutely no energy and often feel

> light headed and have trouble concentrating. I

> sleep eight hours and an hour after I get up just

> want to go back to bed. I was switched to Altace

> (5mg) a couple of weeks ago and still feel the same.

>

> Both drugs did a good job of lowering the blood

> pressure. It runs around 110 to 130 depending on

> what I am doing.

>

> Anyone else have this type problem with hypertensive

> meds. I am just wondering how widespread it may be

> as a side effect. I have trouble believing the drug

> companies saying 1% suffered from this and 3% from

> that, blah, blah.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Bill

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

This man's expresso machine didn't make good coffee anymore, and one day it

almost stopped altogether. So the man calls the expresso machines service.

They sent a new apprentice, as the regular serviceman was on another route.

The boy looks at the machine and turning a knob, says: " the pressure of steam is

too low. If you open this fawcet it will go higher and see, it makes cofee..! "

The owner agrees.

After some days, the regular sevice shows up, and he is horrified at the

pressure level: " ..it will blow your pipes out! Close the fawcet or it will blow

off...! "

" But if I lower the pressure it won´t make coffee... " complained the man.

He decided to ask the manufacturer direct about the blatantly contradictory

opinions of his employees.

" Did any of them minded to clean the filters?? " exploded the boss.

.............................................................................

Conventional medicine only cares about lowering the pressure, perhaps because

they have no idea of how the filters (kidneys, skin, intestines,

microcirculation, heart, etc.) might be cleaned in an economic/ feasible way.

After a while, no system is working properly, so you feel tired and worn out,

but " depressured " all right.

May be you shold ask around about other systems of fixing the expresso

machine...

Best regards.

Ignacio.

Ignacio Fojgel, Md.

Head, CIMDept.

Maimonides University

Buenos Aires, Argentina

> ...over a period of

> > time found I had absolutely no energy and often feel

> > light headed and have trouble concentrating. I

> > sleep eight hours and an hour after I get up just

> > want to go back to bed. I was switched to Altace

> > (5mg) a couple of weeks ago and still feel the same.

> >

> > Both drugs did a good job of lowering the blood

> > pressure. It runs around 110 to 130 depending on

> > what I am doing.

> >

> > Anyone else have this type problem with hypertensive

> > meds. I am just wondering how widespread it may be

> > as a side effect. I have trouble believing the drug

> > companies saying 1% suffered from this and 3% from

> > that, blah, blah.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Bill

[Guest guest]

On Wednesday, October 6, 2004, at 01:06 PM, Ignacio Fojgel, M.D. wrote:

>>> Anyone else have this type problem with hypertensive

>>> meds. I am just wondering how widespread it may be

>>> as a side effect. I have trouble believing the drug

>>> companies saying 1% suffered from this and 3% from

>>> that, blah, blah.

>>>

The japanese swear by long slow hot baths. You might consider foods

that 'thin' the blood such as tea, chocolate, grapes. These are said to

make the blood flow more easily. Aspirin too. You get some exercise and

keep stress low?

[Guest guest]

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it would be possibly...).

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Bill Saxon <vondell@...> wrote:

I was taking Diovan (10 mg) and over a period of time found I had absolutely no

energy and often feel light headed and have trouble concentrating. I sleep eight

hours and an hour after I get up just want to go back to bed. I was switched to

Altace (5mg) a couple of weeks ago and still feel the same.

Both drugs did a good job of lowering the blood pressure. It runs around 110 to

130 depending on what I am doing.

Anyone else have this type problem with hypertensive meds. I am just wondering

how widespread it may be as a side effect. I have trouble believing the drug

companies saying 1% suffered from this and 3% from that, blah, blah.

Thanks,

Bill

[Guest guest]

I found info about hot tubs new & interesting.

http://www.mendosa.com/hottubs.htm excerpt on blood pressure:

However, one correspondent, Storey in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada,

brought a study of 23 people with normal blood pressure and 21 whose

blood pressure was too high. For both groups systolic blood pressure

falls by about 20 percent during 10 minutes of hot tub bathing. Earlier

studies indicate this isnt a problem and that hot tubs are safe for

people whether they have high blood pressure or not.

excerpt on blood glucose:

After three weeks the mean weight of the patients had decreased 3.7

pounds. Mean fasting plasma glucose level decreased from 182 mg/dl to

159 mg/dl. Their mean A1c levels dropped from 11.3 to 10.3. As the study

progressed, the participants reported improved sleep and an increased

general sense of well-being.

For me, hot baths are definitely a luxury of time. Still, perhaps we

should all get together for a hot tub party! :-)

Bridgeland wrote:

>The japanese swear by long slow hot baths. You might consider foods that 'thin'

the blood such as tea, chocolate, grapes. These are said to make the blood flow

more easily. Aspirin too. You get some exercise and keep stress low?

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