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Interesting isn't it? I'm a Reflexologist and

know it's important for us to go without shoes

when we can. A friend of mine was having problems

with fasciitis and it went away when she started

doing water aerobics. I had it and it went away

when I started jogging. Lorri

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Subject: Re: Potatoes Toxic?

I did a lot of research about fasciitis and ended

up healing it by doing the

exact opposite of what my podiatrist told me to

do. Basically, I

started doing Sansone " Walk at Home " videos

barefoot on a

hardwood floor. My podiatrist had told me to

never, ever go barefoot,

not even for a moment, ever. But my research

unearthed several studies

of using barefoot walking to build up the foot

muscles and

heal/prevent fasciitis/tendonitis and it worked

for me.

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OKay... I got one...

Answer to the how did you lose all that weight..

" I suffered "

Appropriate since most people think diet and exercise is torture anyway..

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From: Kathy at SandHollow Savannah Cats <sandhollow@...>

Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 12:27:05 AM

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Oh I love that response - that's great!

Now tell me how you started as I weigh about that much and my goal is 165-185 -

I'm tall and look thin at 190 - well ok not thin but a heck of alot better than

I do now LOL? oh yea - I hate vegetables and always have but I can eat salsa - I

consider that my vegetable.? Just briefly tell me what you did your first month

or so to get you started.

Kathy :0)

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On 4/25/09, <seraphimtoo@ cox.net> wrote:

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> I like that answer. For the most part though, the people who ask me

> are those who want a real answer so I give a little bit of info

You are fortunate. I left at the end of one semester, weighing 253

pounds and returned at the beginning of another semester, weighing 185

pounds. I got a LOT of " wow! How did you do that? " from people who

really didn't care how I did that, it's just a social thing to say,

like how the grocery clerk says " how are you " and really couldn't care

less how you are because they don't know you and are only going to

have to interact with you for five minutes anyway. It's general social

lubrication. I hate when people ask questions they don't want the

answer to, but since I've learned that it's a sort of a social ritual

to do that in some situations, I've gotten okay with it and actually

make a little game out of what sort of answer I will give to those

" non-questions. "

Before I settled on " prayer " as my non-answer to the non-question, I

had fun with " I followed a special new diet and exercise plan called

Get Up Off Your Ass and Stop Eating Like an Idiot. " That one got huge

laughs from some people and huge outrage from other people so I

decided that even though it was pretty darned funny it probably wasn't

a generally safe response. :-)

Sparrow

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I had it too.. Used a rebounder.. just walking on it barefoot did the trick..

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From: Lorri <raw@...>

Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:11:54 AM

Subject: RE: Potatoes Toxic?

Interesting isn't it? I'm a Reflexologist and

know it's important for us to go without shoes

when we can. A friend of mine was having problems

with fasciitis and it went away when she started

doing water aerobics. I had it and it went away

when I started jogging. Lorri

_____

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[mailto:] On Behalf Of

Sparrow R

Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 12:12 AM

Subject: Re: Potatoes Toxic?

I did a lot of research about fasciitis and ended

up healing it by doing the

exact opposite of what my podiatrist told me to

do. Basically, I

started doing Sansone " Walk at Home " videos

barefoot on a

hardwood floor. My podiatrist had told me to

never, ever go barefoot,

not even for a moment, ever. But my research

unearthed several studies

of using barefoot walking to build up the foot

muscles and

heal/prevent fasciitis/tendoniti s and it worked

for me.

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Lorri, My daughter's in-laws tell a story of when they were first

married. He planted tomatoes in their first yard. When the tomatoes were

ready to harvest, he brought some in the house. She tasted them and said

that he had done something wrong because the tomatoes tasted 'funny'. The

worman had never tasted a home grown tomato before. Perhaps this is whats

happening to you. The sprouts in the store are usually grown

hydroponically, in water filled with chemicals. Your sprouts are not.

Keep growing and tasting them. You will soon love them.

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Sounds good - I just put a handful of whatever I

sprout into my protein drink and also when I make

chili - right before I eat it I throw a good size

handfull of any kind of sprouts in it and stir it

and then serve it!

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When people ask me, I say that my Dr. put his finger on the end of my

nose and said, " Diet or die! " I chose to change my lifestyle.

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On 4/25/09, <seraphimtoo@ cox.net> wrote:

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> I like that answer. For the most part though, the people who ask me

> are those who want a real answer so I give a little bit of info

You are fortunate. I left at the end of one semester, weighing 253

pounds and returned at the beginning of another semester, weighing

185

pounds. I got a LOT of " wow! How did you do that? " from people who

really didn't care how I did that, it's just a social thing to say,

like how the grocery clerk says " how are you " and really couldn't

care

less how you are because they don't know you and are only going to

have to interact with you for five minutes anyway. It's general

social

lubrication. I hate when people ask questions they don't want the

answer to, but since I've learned that it's a sort of a social ritual

to do that in some situations, I've gotten okay with it and actually

make a little game out of what sort of answer I will give to those

" non-questions. "

Before I settled on " prayer " as my non-answer to the non-question, I

had fun with " I followed a special new diet and exercise plan called

Get Up Off Your Ass and Stop Eating Like an Idiot. " That one got huge

laughs from some people and huge outrage from other people so I

decided that even though it was pretty darned funny it probably

wasn't

a generally safe response. :-)

Sparrow

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Thanks yes it does help - I need some sort of " plan " that I feel I can actually

do - that sounds very doable for me.? I did the HCG shots and did lose 25 lbs

but gained 20 right back.??I know it's my eating habits and I'm trying not to

spike my insulin.? I'm going to try your plan.??I do eat alot of dairy so that

will be my hardest adjustment but I think it may be key for me to lose weight.?

I love beans, burritos and refried beans so that will be easy.? Thanks!?

Kathy :0)

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On 4/25/09, Kathy at SandHollow Savannah Cats <sandhollow@...> wrote:

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> Just briefly tell me what you did your first month or so to get you started.

The starter was that I quit eating any kind of meat or fish or dairy

or egg. I ate lots of cooked grains, especially brown rice but also

quinoa and millet and lots of bean stews. I made refried beans at home

to avoid the sugars and additives and had lots of burritos in whole

grain tortillas. I also switched to a whole-grain dark pumpernickel

bread because it has the lowest glycemic index of yeast breads. Since

I couldn't find an acceptable bread in the store and I have a bread

machine, I started making my own bread. I'd measure out 3-5 loaves of

dry ingredients, minus the yeast, in ziploc baggies on a weekend so

that I could throw together bread in about a minute when rushed and

just turn the machine on and let it go.

I also started exercising - just fifteen minutes at a time at first

because I was still having a lot of troubles with fasciitis and

tendonitis (although it had gotten better at that point - before I

couldn't even walk to the bathroom) but gradually building up . I did

a lot of research about fasciitis and ended up healing it by doing the

exact opposite of what my podiatrist told me to do. Basically, I

started doing Sansone " Walk at Home " videos barefoot on a

hardwood floor. My podiatrist had told me to never, ever go barefoot,

not even for a moment, ever. But my research unearthed several studies

of using barefoot walking to build up the foot muscles and

heal/prevent fasciitis/tendonitis and it worked for me. Now I can walk

as many miles as I want and if my feet start acting up, I spend some

time doing barefoot workouts and they're fine again.

So, anyhow, that's how I got started out. Going vegan, making beans

the staple of my diet and getting a tiny bit of exercise had me losing

a pound a day for the first couple of weeks. I continued to adjust my

behavior, looking to my weight loss trajectory for guidance. My weight

loss stopped when the semester started again and now in the last month

of the semester, my weight has been going up. It's mainly a

combination of stress and no time to go for the long (3-5 mile) walks

I was going for while on vacation. Soon the semester will be over for

the summer and the stress level will ease off and I will have time to

walk again and I will lose the fifteen pounds I gained back and

continue on my way down to the 140-150 range I'm shooting for.

Hope any of this is helpful to you.

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Oh thats another hard one for me - I love creamy dressings too.? I almost can't

eat a salad without a good? blue cheese or ranch dressing, I do like honey

mustard too and cesar but thats about it!? I don't know if I will ever be able

to eat a salad without one of those!

Kathy :0)

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On 4/25/09, <seraphimtoo@

<mailto:seraphimtoo%40cox.net> cox.net> wrote:

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> I am giving up processed grains

> and the only bread I eat is Ezekial bread on a

limited basis, and a

> tortilla occasionally for a wrap. And if I could

find that sprouted

> would love it.

I moved from bread to Ezekiel bread to tortillas

as a slow progression

over time. What I moved to when I finally gave up

tortillas was

leaves. I roll things up in a romaine leaf or a

collard leaf now. If

you're trying to eventually give up all grains and

you can eat large

leaves like romaine and collard, give them a try

and see if you like

them as a sandwich/wrap substitute. They work out

really well for me

and are a great way to increase your greens if you

want to get more

greens in your diet.

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I realize that many folks have a gluten intolerance. But what about those

that don't? I mean, I don't have any ill-effects when I eat wheat (whole

wheat! The stripped down white stuff does give me indigestion. My body

definitely can tell the difference, in a big way.)

So, is it your thought that ALL people should avoid gluten? If so, why?

I can't help but think about all the vegetarians and vegans eating gluten

" meat " (analogs).

:~)

Thia

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 2:53 AM, yair44234 <yair44234@...> wrote:

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> grains - the main thing to avoid there is GLUTEN.

> pseudograins like Amaranth, Quinoa, Backwheat and wildrice are Gluten free

> and when sprouted are very nutritional.

>

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Mayo was a huge weakness for me too. I really thought that would never drop

off my desire list. But it has! Shortly after adding avocados to my weekly

shopping list! A good ripe one is creamy enough it can be spread (like

mayo) on a sandwich, whether it be bread or greens. (Or slices on a sandwich

are good too!) Also they are good for a creamy base to add other stuff to.

As for nut based dressings, here's what works for me: Start with at least

half the nuts being cashews, or pine nuts. Those two are very creamy. Hemp

is creamy too. Cover with no more than the same amount water. (ie: half cup

nuts, add to that no more than half cup water) Blend for a LONG time. At

least 3 minutes, or longer depending on your blender. Right now, I have a

$45 Oaster blender that's about 6+ years old. It takes about 3 minutes.

Once it is good and creamy, then add other ingredients, like shallot, herbs,

TBS lemon juice. Blend that in, until smooth (You may choose to save the

herbs to stir in last, as it will affect the color, if blended in smooth!)

THEN, after all is said and done and smooth- THEN add more water to desired

consistancy. Blend one last time, this time won't take so long!

Add in anything you like- but I highly suggest using lemon juice. It helps

give that ever so slight dairy twang, to make it taste more like the stuff

you may have been used to. I have fooled a good many folk with the above

recipe, both thick as a dip, and thin as alfredo sauce. The lemon juice is

the trick.

:~)

Thia

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Lorri <raw@...> wrote:

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>

> I also find it

> difficult to give up mayonnaise (I'm still

> transitioning into completely raw - there seem to

> quite a few of us here). I just love a good

> creamy dressing. I've made some really good nut

> dressings but they just aren't the same, maybe

> when I get a high powered blender I can achieve a

> creamier dressing, I don't know.

>

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I used to think the same thing. Your taste buds DO change! I started using

less and less dressing, and tossed well to coat. (My salads used to SWIM in

the stuff!). At some point I started making oil free dressings, such as

tomato blended with mango, shallot, and a touch of sea salt (so yummy). Now

I simply use an orange wedge, or lime wedges, squeezed over the greens. I

have even sat down with a bag of organic baby greens and ate them dry, right

out of the bag! Would have never believed someone had they told me a year

ago I would have done that!!

I make dressings for the bf, he still likes oil/fat on his.

:~)

Thia

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Kathy at SandHollow Savannah Cats <

sandhollow@...> wrote:

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>

> Oh thats another hard one for me - I love creamy dressings too.? I almost

> can't eat a salad without a good? blue cheese or ranch dressing, I do like

> honey mustard too and cesar but thats about it!? I don't know if I will ever

> be able to eat a salad without one of those!

>

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On 4/26/09, Kathy at SandHollow Savannah Cats <sandhollow@...> wrote:

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> I did the HCG shots

You were able to get those in the United States? I had heard it was

nearly impossible to get them for weight issues, only for fertility

issues. I heard wrong?

> I love beans, burritos and refried beans so that will be easy.? Thanks!?

If you're going to follow in my footsteps, be sure to either make your

beans from scratch or buy ones that have no fats or sugars added. I

also used tortillas that were 4g/fat or fewer per serving. I had done

the beans thing before and it didn't work nealry as well as when I did

it while paying attention to fat. When I was first starting out, I

counted fat grams and limited them to 30 per day.

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On 4/26/09, Kathy at SandHollow Savannah Cats <sandhollow@...> wrote:

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> Oh thats another hard one for me - I love creamy dressings too.?

> I almost can't eat a salad without a good? blue cheese or ranch

> dressing, I do like honey mustard too and cesar but thats about

> it!? I don't know if I will ever be able to eat a salad without one of those!

Tastes change over time. The less you expose yourself to certain

tastes, the less you miss them. I used to be exactly like you -

couldn't imagine a salad without lots of bleu cheese. Restaurants

never gave enough dressing and I always had to ask for a double

serving.

Now I eat salad plain or sometimes squeeze a lemon over it. I hated it

at first and went through all kinds of food acrobatics to try to find

a dressing I liked. Eventually my tastes shifted and now I don't miss

dressing any more. It will happen if you're patient and work at it and

want it to happen.

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On 4/26/09, Thia .... <bipolyf@...> wrote:

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> I can't help but think about all the vegetarians and vegans eating gluten

> " meat " (analogs).

Oh, man! I used to make homemade gluten cutlets and other people (not

my husband. He wouldn't touch that stuff) said it tasted awesome but I

thought it was absolutely awful and I'd feel really sick every time I

ate it so I finally quit making it (I kept trying different recipes,

different spice combinations, etc., trying to find a version I liked

because it was so extremely inexpensive and filling)

So probably count me in with the gluten intolerants. I felt really

under the weather during Holy Week when we were doing communion nearly

every day (and that means not only bread in the chalice but followed

up with big chunks of white bread to " wash it down " ) and it wasn't

until after the week was over that I realized it was probably all that

gluten entering my system when I don't eat anything gluten-y any more

(so the effects were probably either stronger or more noticeable than

ususal.) I also notice that I gained about a pound per day that week

although my eating habits didn't change and I was more physically

active that week than before or after.

I'm sure some people aren't gluten intolerant, just like some people

aren't lactose intolerant. I think it's something that people hit on

early because such a large majority have physical issues with lactose

and/or gluten that it's an easy thing to target and will help more

people than not.

As much as I wish there were a simple, optimal, species-specific diet

for the human, it appears that there are distinct variations from

region to region (possibly from individual to individual? Though my

layman's observation does seem to indicate regional variance.) For

example, I don't do well on meat at all. I grew up vegetarian and have

gone to meat at various points for various reasons, most recently

because that's what my husband eats and he had convinced me that we

were too poor to buy two separate types of food so I had to eat what

he wanted to eat. Thing is, he THRIVES on meat, even crappy quality

meat. I got deathly ill on a meat-based diet and only began thriving

again when I was finally able to convince him that I just couldn't

keep eating it.

But Inuit are more like my husband. Even more than my husband is,

actually! They thrive on a diet of nearly total meat and animal fat

and die when those things are replaced with fruits and vegetables.

Regional variations. So I don't do well with the gluten and the casein

and lactose that Paleos avoid but I also do pretty poorly on the meat

as well. I'm apparently a different sub-species? Strange to think of.

but it seems to be the case.

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I have an allergic reaction to anything cow, both meat and milk. It's the

only thing I am strict about. The rest of my diet is personal preference,

for me.

Thia

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Sparrow R <sparrowrose@...>wrote:

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> I don't do well with the gluten and the casein

> and lactose that Paleos avoid but I also do pretty poorly on the meat

> as well. I'm apparently a different sub-species? Strange to think of.

> but it seems to be the case.

>

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No you can get HCG shots just about everywhere here -?do a google search!

I'm?soaking beans right now - thanks for the info - I'll do that!

?

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On 4/26/09, Kathy at SandHollow Savannah Cats <sandhollow@...> wrote:

>

> I did the HCG shots

You were able to get those in the United States? I had heard it was

nearly impossible to get them for weight issues, only for fertility

issues. I heard wrong?

> I love beans, burritos and refried beans so that will be easy.? Thanks!?

If you're going to follow in my footsteps, be sure to either make your

beans from scratch or buy ones that have no fats or sugars added. I

also used tortillas that were 4g/fat or fewer per serving. I had done

the beans thing before and it didn't work nealry as well as when I did

it while paying attention to fat. When I was first starting out, I

counted fat grams and limited them to 30 per day.

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Boy that sounds like me - restaurants never bring enough dressing LOL

I will be happy when I can eat a salad without tons of dressing!

Kathy :0)

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On 4/26/09, Kathy at SandHollow Savannah Cats <sandhollow@...> wrote:

>

> Oh thats another hard one for me - I love creamy dressings too.?

> I almost can't eat a salad without a good? blue cheese or ranch

> dressing, I do like honey mustard too and cesar but thats about

> it!? I don't know if I will ever be able to eat a salad without one of those!

Tastes change over time. The less you expose yourself to certain

tastes, the less you miss them. I used to be exactly like you -

couldn't imagine a salad without lots of bleu cheese. Restaurants

never gave enough dressing and I always had to ask for a double

serving.

Now I eat salad plain or sometimes squeeze a lemon over it. I hated it

at first and went through all kinds of food acrobatics to try to find

a dressing I liked. Eventually my tastes shifted and now I don't miss

dressing any more. It will happen if you're patient and work at it and

want it to happen.

Sparrow

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Kathy, here is a way to start reducing the amount of salad dressing you

use. Put the dressing on the side in a small dish. Dip your fork into the

dressing and then stab a bite of salad. You will find that you get the

taste of dressing that you like, without getting too much. You will soon

notice that restaurants bring too much dressing.

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On 4/26/09, Kathy at SandHollow Savannah Cats <sandhollow@...>

wrote:

>

> Oh thats another hard one for me - I love creamy dressings too.?

> I almost can't eat a salad without a good? blue cheese or ranch

> dressing, I do like honey mustard too and cesar but thats about

> it!? I don't know if I will ever be able to eat a salad without one

of those!

Tastes change over time. The less you expose yourself to certain

tastes, the less you miss them. I used to be exactly like you -

couldn't imagine a salad without lots of bleu cheese. Restaurants

never gave enough dressing and I always had to ask for a double

serving.

Now I eat salad plain or sometimes squeeze a lemon over it. I hated

it

at first and went through all kinds of food acrobatics to try to find

a dressing I liked. Eventually my tastes shifted and now I don't miss

dressing any more. It will happen if you're patient and work at it

and

want it to happen.

Sparrow

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I will try that - thanks!

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Kathy, here is a way to start reducing the amount of salad dressing you

use. Put the dressing on the side in a small dish. Dip your fork into the

dressing and then stab a bite of salad. You will find that you get the

taste of dressing that you like, without getting too much. You will soon

notice that restaurants bring too much dressing.

ew

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On 4/26/09, Kathy at SandHollow Savannah Cats <sandhollow@...>

wrote:

>

> Oh thats another hard one for me - I love creamy dressings too.?

> I almost can't eat a salad without a good? blue cheese or ranch

> dressing, I do like honey mustard too and cesar but thats about

> it!? I don't know if I will ever be able to eat a salad without one

of those!

Tastes change over time. The less you expose yourself to certain

tastes, the less you miss them. I used to be exactly like you -

couldn't imagine a salad without lots of bleu cheese. Restaurants

never gave enough dressing and I always had to ask for a double

serving.

Now I eat salad plain or sometimes squeeze a lemon over it. I hated

it

at first and went through all kinds of food acrobatics to try to find

a dressing I liked. Eventually my tastes shifted and now I don't miss

dressing any more. It will happen if you're patient and work at it

and

want it to happen.

Sparrow

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