Jasminum odoratissimum - True Yellow Jasmine

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I have spent countless hours searching for the dried flowers of

Jasminum odoratissimum - True Yellow Jasmine, to no avail. It is

native to the Canary Islands. Supposedly, it is the only species of

jasmine which retains its fragrance after being dried. All bulk herb

wholesalers I know carry Jasminum officinale - Common or Poet's

Jasmine, which, of course, is scentless when dry. The very few that

list their jasmine as " odoratissimum " are really carrying

the " officinale " , which, of course, is scentless when dried. It's

easy to tell the difference because the Poet's jasmine has white, not

yellow flowers. I know it's a long-shot, but will ask nonetheless.

Does anyone know where you can get dried True Yellow Jasmine flowers?

If not, maybe someone knows where you can buy the living plant?

Although I need rather large quantities of the stuff, I'm desperate

enough to grow and harvest my own! I would be so grateful.

Mark

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depending upon where you live jasmine can be grown to monstrous

sizes and can be rather like honeysuckle in taking over a long fence

and the trees and shrubs nearby-(think twice before planting it) Go

googling and there is at least one nursery which sells the plants you

seek but it all depends upon your zone

We are in zone 9 and everything grows here and

we have to fight too much growth

Here in the gulf coast we have 2

kinds which thrive- conferate (white) and carolina (yellow) I have

worked with the flowers to obtain scent and believe the literature

when it says it takes mountains of flowers. We have it on 2 fences and

up 2 trees and it took an amazing amount of labour for such an small

output.Also be careful One year we bought from a reputable nursery

and someone had mislabeled the jasmine and we carefully planted asian

non-flowering jasmine -- very aggressive and we are still pulling it out

travels underground and grows as you watch it

jingles from cattail cove

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I don't know where you can get the dried flowers,but I know that

Logees Greenhouse sells the live plant. Go to www.logees.com ( think

thats the address)

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TopTropicals sells this live, in limited quantity as well:

http://toptropicals.com/cgi-bin/garden_catalog/cat.cgi?uid=

JASMINUM_odoratissimum

cut and paste (the old fashioned way) if the link won't work~

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>

> > I adore logees, I've gotten plants from them for 15 years. A

word of

> caution, however: not all their jasmines are the true type. I

thought I was

> growing J. officinale var. Grandiflorum for years from the cutting

I got

> from them, but it was J. officinale Flore Pleno. They STILL have

the Flore

> Pleno on the site, the picture, advertised as the grandi.

>

Anya:

I bought Logee's French Perfume Jasmine (J. off. grand.) last

Spring. I also wanted the Grasse variety. It does smell good, but

now I wonder if I got the wrong one too? How can you tell the

difference between the Grasse one and the flore pleno?

Mark

> I now have the Grasse grandi from another soure, but what a

disappointment!

Why is it a dissappointment?

DM

>

> you probably can't go wrong with their sambacs, and the yellow

one, well, I

> guess yellow is the key! The rex has practically no scent! Their

grand duke

> sambacs are gorgeous!

>

>

> I too grow J. sambac " Grand Duke of Tuscany " . The double flowers

are magnificent, as is its scent - green and spicy!

>

> Mark

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At 11:23 PM 12/30/2005, you wrote:

>TopTropicals sells this live, in limited quantity as well:

>http://toptropicals.com/cgi-bin/garden_catalog/cat.cgi?uid=

>JASMINUM_odoratissimum

>

>cut and paste (the old fashioned way) if the link won't work~

No, they don't have it. If you note, if they don't have a price with the

plant, they don't have it. A lot of stuff on their site is just for

reference. They also note the scent is delicate.

>

Anya

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At 07:23 AM 12/31/2005, you wrote:

>

> >

> > > I adore logees, I've gotten plants from them for 15 years. A

>word of

> > caution, however: not all their jasmines are the true type. I

>thought I was

> > growing J. officinale var. Grandiflorum for years from the cutting

>I got

> > from them, but it was J. officinale Flore Pleno. They STILL have

>the Flore

> > Pleno on the site, the picture, advertised as the grandi.

> >

>

>Anya:

>

>I bought Logee's French Perfume Jasmine (J. off. grand.) last

>Spring. I also wanted the Grasse variety. It does smell good, but

>now I wonder if I got the wrong one too? How can you tell the

>difference between the Grasse one and the flore pleno?

Hi :

Go to the yet-unlaunched ;-) http://anyasgarden.com to see a pic of the

true Grasse J. off. grandi. See it's a simple flower? I'll bet the one you

have has an extra swirl petal in the middle, and longer, narrower petals.

>

> > I now have the Grasse grandi from another soure, but what a

>disappointment!

>

>Why is it a dissappointment?

That was a misstatement on my part -- I meant what a disappointment that I

had been tincturing the wrong flowers all along, thinking it was the J.

off. grandi, letting it take over a 25' stretch of back fence ;-)

Still, I adore the Flore Pleno, it's scent is VERY close to the Grasse, and

it's no disappointment in the long run.

>Their grand duke > sambacs are gorgeous!

>

> > I too grow J. sambac " Grand Duke of Tuscany " . The double flowers

>are magnificent, as is its scent - green and spicy!

GDT isn't just double flowered, it's like a small carnation. The Belle of

India is double flowered. You might want to check the pics at Top Tropicals

to confirm what variety you have. The GDT is very fruity and sweet, with a

touch of spicy and green, but the sweet fruitiness hits my nose first.

Anya

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/www.bhatia-nurseries.com/jodratsm.htm

is what the first one that came up last time i tried to search

but really down here mine are the white and they are very very fragrant

and we open our windows in the spring and- drink it in at night- but

as for scent we can capture--- like i said it took tons and tons of

flowers for such a bit of scent jingles

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> > Mark replied to Anya:

> >I bought Logee's French Perfume Jasmine (J. off. grand.) last

> >Spring. I also wanted the Grasse variety. It does smell good,

but

> >now I wonder if I got the wrong one too? How can you tell the

> >difference between the Grasse one and the flore pleno?

>

> Hi :

> Go to the yet-unlaunched ;-) http://anyasgarden.com to see a pic

of the

> true Grasse J. off. grandi. See it's a simple flower? I'll bet the

one you

> have has an extra swirl petal in the middle, and longer, narrower

petals.

>

Anya:

Looks like I have the Flore Pleno instead of the Grasse, too.

Congratulations on your new website. It's beautiful. I love the

tincture pictures. The colors are superb.

> > > I now have the Grasse grandi from another soure, but what a

> >disappointment!

Where did you get the real " Grasse " grandiflorum?

Anya wrote:

> >Their grand duke > sambacs are gorgeous!

> >

Dave replied:

> > > I too grow J. sambac " Grand Duke of Tuscany " . The double

flowers

> >are magnificent, as is its scent - green and spicy!

>

Anya replied:

> GDT isn't just double flowered, it's like a small carnation. The

Belle of

> India is double flowered. You might want to check the pics at Top

Tropicals

> to confirm what variety you have. The GDT is very fruity and

sweet, with a

> touch of spicy and green, but the sweet fruitiness hits my nose

first.

>

>

I do have the GDT. My mistake in describing it. My flowers are

small carnations, too. To my nose, the GDT is fruity, spicy and

green, but not sweet. I would characterized the grandiflorums as

extremely sweet, but not green and not spicy like my sambacs.

I did check out Top Tropicals. What they call J. odoratissimum IS

NOT the True Yellow Jasmine - It's J. floridum.

Mark