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Agreed!!

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On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Rushing <lindarsgarden@...>wrote:

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After a learned about healthy eating, I happened to stop by to see my

dad. He was frying a beautiful, fat marbled porterhouse steak in bacon

grease. He died young. I just turned 75. You choose.

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lemon pudding/ (was Re:

Dehydrating sprouts/Sparrow)

Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:31:46 -0000

Cooking in bacon fat is so yummy. I used to get a lot of foods cooked

in it when I was a kid. My mom learned to cook from my grandmothers.

All my relatives seem to die of heart and artery problems. When my

mom passed and we went through her recipe box, her recipes were

loaded with fats. I recall one recipe saying to use " goobs (sp?) of

butter " . I used to eat high fats and had heart fibrillations. When I

cut way down, they went away. I'm hoping to change our family history

of heart problems by eating what I consider to be better for myself.

Brother recently had a stroke. His comment years ago when I spoke to

him about his eating was " I like food that sticks to your ribs. " My

comment back to him was that he should have said it " sticks to his

arteries. " It seems most people on this website are more into

healthier eating.

Barb

>

> >

> > LARD??? LARD???

> >

> > This is healthy??? I have never ever heard that it's good to use

lard.

> > That's a new one for me.

> >

> > Melody

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I know you can eat sweet potatoes raw.

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Thia .... <bipolyf@...> wrote:

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>

> Ok, I am compleately with ya on the first paragraph. But you lost me at the

> end of the second. Are you saying that potatoes and peas have to be somehow

> processed before eating? I've eaten peas raw fresh out of a garden. What

> needs to be done with them? I've heard potatoes should be cooked, although

> I don't know why. (I know about them containing arsinic, but cooking

> doesn't get rid of that). But you are ok with cooking, so what needs to by

> done to potatoes and peas by your lights?

>

> Thia

>

> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 6:28 AM, Cody

<lecody2001@...<lecody2001%40>>

> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Yes Thia, once upon a time when we were still relatively healthy, that is

> > what people cooked with, then came hydrogentated oils and high fructose

> corn

> > syrup and today, people on that diet are ill..

> >

> > Real food, just remember, no matter what your diet preference, eat real

> > food. I do paleo, so that cuts out grains, and any other food that has to

> > be processed [not cooked, cooking is ok] before it can be eaten,

> including

> > potatoes and peas.

> >

> > Lauara

> >

> >

>

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You can't eat peas raw? Lorri

That last para made little since... no potatoes,

you can not eat them raw.. same with peas and

grains.. the foods you can eat raw you can cook...

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Anybody that thinks that you can't eat peas raw has never had a garden.

While I'm in the garden, I often pick peas shell them, eat them and toss

the pods in the compost pile. Also, I grow snow peas. I eat them in the

garden raw, pods and all.

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Dehydrating sprouts/Sparrow)

Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:12:23 -0700

You can't eat peas raw? Lorri

That last para made little since... no potatoes,

you can not eat them raw.. same with peas and

grains.. the foods you can eat raw you can cook...

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Indeed. Yes, I also know that sweet potatoes are ok raw. I should have

clarified: I have heard that white potatoes should not be eaten raw, and

when I have inquired, was told that it was due to arsenic, but quite frankly

that baffles me, as that would not go away when cooked. I do know they have

glycoalkaloids, and as they age the concentrations are stronger (toxic).

Again, cooking does not make that go away.

Thia

Rushing <lindarsgarden@...> wrote:

>

> I know you can eat sweet potatoes raw.

>

>

>

> On Fri, Thia wrote:

>

> > Ok, I am compleately with ya on the first paragraph. But you lost me at

> the

> > end of the second. Are you saying that potatoes and peas have to be

> somehow

> > processed before eating? I've eaten peas raw fresh out of a garden. What

> > needs to be done with them? I've heard potatoes should be cooked,

> although

> > I don't know why. (I know about them containing arsinic, but cooking

> > doesn't get rid of that). But you are ok with cooking, so what needs to

> by

> > done to potatoes and peas by your lights?

> >

> > Thia

> >

> > On Fri, Cody wrote:

> > >.....

> > > Real food, just remember, no matter what your diet preference, eat real

> > > food. I do paleo, so that cuts out grains, and any other food that has

> to

> > > be processed [not cooked, cooking is ok] before it can be eaten,

> > including

> > > potatoes and peas.

> > >

> > > Lauara

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Hey, I did a google and came up with this. I am like DUH yea I have heard

of raw potatoe salad. I used to go to a Raw Food Group.

This is from http://www.living-foods.com/articles/rawfoods.html

Q: How can I eat raw (white) potatoes?

A: Raw potatoes. Yes you can eat potatoes raw but they are not very

appetizing. Some raw fooders heat potatoes at 118 degrees F, the highest

temperature possible without destroying enzymes, for long periods of time.

The result is a potato that is supposedly raw but tastes cooked. There are

recipes for that approach in Cousen's book, " Conscious Eating " .

Some of the raw food recipe books feature recipes for raw potato salad.

However I can't give you an exact reference/citation.

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Thia .... <bipolyf@...> wrote:

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>

> Indeed. Yes, I also know that sweet potatoes are ok raw. I should have

> clarified: I have heard that white potatoes should not be eaten raw, and

> when I have inquired, was told that it was due to arsenic, but quite

> frankly

> that baffles me, as that would not go away when cooked. I do know they have

> glycoalkaloids, and as they age the concentrations are stronger (toxic).

> Again, cooking does not make that go away.

>

> Thia

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potatoes, all kinds [yes sweet too] have anti-nutrients as do bean and along

with wheat and dairy can and do cause much intestinal distress and

impermability...legumes, beans, peas, and peanuts are also a no no, same reason

mostly.  I was hoping the sprouted form of bean would be ok.. but not... so I

will stick with sprouting vegtables...

I am not a paleo purist, I eat rice and pnut butter and real butter and drink

coffee and occassional  dark chocolate... but otherwise stay pretty close to

paleo.  Absolutely adore Coconut Oil and wish I had a few extra bucks right now

to try that coco creme... well, I will do it later...

  

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From: Thia .... <bipolyf@...>

Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 5:26:39 PM

Subject: Re: lemon pudding/ (was Re: Dehydrating

sprouts/Sparrow)

Indeed. Yes, I also know that sweet potatoes are ok raw. I should have

clarified: I have heard that white potatoes should not be eaten raw, and

when I have inquired, was told that it was due to arsenic, but quite frankly

that baffles me, as that would not go away when cooked. I do know they have

glycoalkaloids, and as they age the concentrations are stronger (toxic).

Again, cooking does not make that go away.

Thia

Rushing <lindarsgarden@ gmail.com> wrote:

>

> I know you can eat sweet potatoes raw.

>

>

>

> On Fri, Thia wrote:

>

> > Ok, I am compleately with ya on the first paragraph. But you lost me at

> the

> > end of the second. Are you saying that potatoes and peas have to be

> somehow

> > processed before eating? I've eaten peas raw fresh out of a garden. What

> > needs to be done with them? I've heard potatoes should be cooked,

> although

> > I don't know why. (I know about them containing arsinic, but cooking

> > doesn't get rid of that). But you are ok with cooking, so what needs to

> by

> > done to potatoes and peas by your lights?

> >

> > Thia

> >

> > On Fri, Cody wrote:

> > >.....

> > > Real food, just remember, no matter what your diet preference, eat real

> > > food. I do paleo, so that cuts out grains, and any other food that has

> to

> > > be processed [not cooked, cooking is ok] before it can be eaten,

> > including

> > > potatoes and peas.

> > >

> > > Lauara

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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What veggies do you like to sprout?

Lorri

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>Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 2:45 PM

Subject: Re: lemon

pudding/ (was Re: Dehydrating

sprouts/Sparrow)

[sniped]

I was hoping the sprouted form of bean would be

ok.. but not... so I will stick with sprouting

vegtables...

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Right now I just have broccoli and some sort of zesty spout mix... plan on

getting some variety in may...

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From: Lorri <raw@...>

Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 6:17:19 PM

Subject: RE: lemon pudding/ (was Re: Dehydrating

sprouts/Sparrow)

What veggies do you like to sprout?

Lorri

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>From:

[mailto:] On Behalf Of

Cody

>Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 2:45 PM

Subject: Re: lemon

pudding/ (was Re: Dehydrating

sprouts/Sparrow)

[sniped]

I was hoping the sprouted form of bean would be

ok.. but not... so I will stick with sprouting

vegtables...

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On 4/24/09, Thia .... <bipolyf@...> wrote:

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> Indeed. Yes, I also know that sweet potatoes are ok raw.

Yeah, I make an awesome raw sweet potato pudding/pie with

fresh-squeezed orange juice in it.

> I should have

> clarified: I have heard that white potatoes should not be eaten raw, and

> when I have inquired, was told that it was due to arsenic, but quite frankly

> that baffles me, as that would not go away when cooked. I do know they have

> glycoalkaloids, and as they age the concentrations are stronger (toxic).

> Again, cooking does not make that go away.

I used to eat raw potatoes all the time as a kid and still crunch on

some raw on those occasions when my husband wants me to make him

mashed potatoes, but I've read that it's risky to eat white potatoes

raw. I'd have to go doing some research to find the actual name of the

compound (and I'm kind of frazzled today so I'm going to be lazy and

let someone else look up more details if they're interested) but the

" stuff " that's in the parts of potato peels that are green (caused by

exposure to the sun when a potato sneaks above ground slightly) are

very poisonous. Thing is, according to what I've read, just cutting

away the green parts won't suffice because that compound (you know,

" compound x " that I'm too lazy/frazzled tonight to go look up the name

of) can be all throughout the potato, even if no part of the tuber is

visibly green.

If that's true, I lucked out because I ate a LOT of raw potato as a

kid. There's just something about the crunch and starchy flavor that

has always been a real kick for me. But I don't but white potatoes

with the intention of eating them raw since I read about that green

stuff. I get a starchy crunch with raw jicama now (which is actually

tastier, in my opinion, than white potato since it's sweeter. But I

had no experience with jicama as a kid so I had no idea.)

Anyway. There's my oh-so-not-scientific answer to why white potatoes

shouldn't be eaten raw. It's that green skin compound stuff.

Sparrow

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It's those glycoalkaloids that I mentioned, specifically solanine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanine

;)

Thia

Sparrow R wrote:

> Anyway. There's my oh-so-not-scientific answer to why white potatoes

> shouldn't be eaten raw. It's that green skin compound stuff.

>

> Thia wrote:

> > ...

> I do know they have

> > glycoalkaloids, and as they age the concentrations are stronger (toxic).

>

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Oh, and a heads-up about my mentioning that cooking wont rid of it: seems it

depends on how it's cooked. I took the following from that page I linked to

(below- previous email): " Deep-frying potatoes at 170°C (306°F) is known to

effectively lower glycoalkaloid levels (because they move into the frying

fat), whereas microwaving is only somewhat effective, freeze drying or

dehydration has little effect and boiling has no effect "

Thia

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Thia .... <bipolyf@...> wrote:

> It's those glycoalkaloids that I mentioned, specifically solanine.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanine

>

> ;)

> Thia

>

>

>

> Sparrow R wrote:

>

>> Anyway. There's my oh-so-not-scientific answer to why white potatoes

>> shouldn't be eaten raw. It's that green skin compound stuff.

>>

>> Thia wrote:

>> > ...

>> I do know they have

>> > glycoalkaloids, and as they age the concentrations are stronger (toxic).

>>

>>

>>

>>

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On 4/25/09, Thia .... <bipolyf@...> wrote:

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> It's those glycoalkaloids that I mentioned, specifically solanine.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanine

Solanine. That sounds right.

Hmm.. the article cites green tomatoes but I ate TONS of fried green

tomatoes back in 1995. I put twelve tomato plants in my garden, not

realizing the yield each plant would have. When I saw how many

tomatoes I was going to have (and only myself to eat them) I started

eating lots of them while they were still green. I had two or three

green tomatoes fried, every night, and never got ill.

Maybe I'm just lucky?

Sparrow

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Boy Sparrow! You have a lot of good sounding recipies. can I have the

receipe for the pie. Also, What raw cookbooks do you have. I have Rawsome

and a few others. It is the one I mainly use.

Thanks!

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Sparrow R <sparrowrose@...>wrote:

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>

> On 4/24/09, Thia .... <bipolyf@... <bipolyf%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> >

> > Indeed. Yes, I also know that sweet potatoes are ok raw.

>

> Yeah, I make an awesome raw sweet potato pudding/pie with

> fresh-squeezed orange juice in it.

>

>

> .

>

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http://www.botanical-online.com/patatasangles.htm

According to the above site.. it is toxic raw.

Other sites say it is not toxic..   http://www.food-info.net/uk/qa/qa-fp97.htm

I think it tastes nasty raw and so I would not eat them that way.  According to

Paleo, can't eat it raw, can't eat it cooked.  So you have to decide for

yourself.

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Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 1:38:34 PM

Subject: lemon pudding/ (was Re: Dehydrating

sprouts/Sparrow)

- Can sweet potatoes and yams be eaten raw? I have tried them once or

twice with no ill effects. Sprouted grains are raw and I eat them daily with no

ill effects.

Barb

>

> >

> > LARD??? LARD???

> >

> > This is healthy??? I have never ever heard that it's good to use lard.

> > That's a new one for me.

> >

> > Melody

> >

> >

> >

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Some sweet potatoes are washed and graded for sale as soon as they are dug. This

is called the " green crop. " Others are cured and stored in large bins until they

are needed for market. " Cured " is the process of allowing the skin on the

potatoes to tighten, the starches to turn to sugars, and the abrasions to heal.

" Cured " potatoes are sweeter than " green stock " and are more resistant to

skinning. When sweet potatoes are cured they are kept at a constant temperature

of about 85 degrees and at a relative humidity of 85 to 95 percent for 5 to 7

days. Once the curing process is over, sweet potatoes are placed in storage at

55-65 degrees until needed for market.

 

http://www.agr.state.nc.us/agscool/commodities/sweetkid.htm

 

Seems most sweet potatoes are not quite raw when you get them... I suspect one

would have to compare a real fresh one to one that has been cured.

 

C.

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From: Rushing <lindarsgarden@...>

Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 4:11:51 PM

Subject: Re: lemon pudding/ (was Re: Dehydrating

sprouts/Sparrow)

I know you can eat sweet potatoes raw.

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Thia .... <bipolyfgmail (DOT) com> wrote:

>

>

> Ok, I am compleately with ya on the first paragraph. But you lost me at the

> end of the second. Are you saying that potatoes and peas have to be somehow

> processed before eating? I've eaten peas raw fresh out of a garden. What

> needs to be done with them? I've heard potatoes should be cooked, although

> I don't know why. (I know about them containing arsinic, but cooking

> doesn't get rid of that). But you are ok with cooking, so what needs to by

> done to potatoes and peas by your lights?

>

> Thia

>

> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 6:28 AM, Cody <lecody2001 (DOT) com<lecody2001%

40> >

> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Yes Thia, once upon a time when we were still relatively healthy, that is

> > what people cooked with, then came hydrogentated oils and high fructose

> corn

> > syrup and today, people on that diet are ill..

> >

> > Real food, just remember, no matter what your diet preference, eat real

> > food. I do paleo, so that cuts out grains, and any other food that has to

> > be processed [not cooked, cooking is ok] before it can be eaten,

> including

> > potatoes and peas.

> >

> > Lauara

> >

> >

>

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Well, the second site (the " not toxic " one) still mentioned the " green part "

and solanine. The part that's misleading about that, is it's not the green

that is bad, but the green is an indicator that the bad is more

concentrated.

Thing is, it's the internet; anyone can write anything. Who do you trust?

How about a page from The National Toxicology Program!

http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/index.cfm?objectid=6F5E930D-F1F6-975E-7037ACA48ABB25F4

(Who states that only some forms of cooking have any effect on lowering the

solanine.)

:~)

Thia

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Cody <lecody2001@...> wrote:

>

>

> http://www.botanical-online.com/patatasangles.htm

>

> According to the above site.. it is toxic raw.

>

> Other sites say it is not toxic..

> http://www.food-info.net/uk/qa/qa-fp97.htm

>

> I think it tastes nasty raw and so I would not eat them that way.

> According to Paleo, can't eat it raw, can't eat it cooked. So you have to

> decide for yourself.

>

>

>

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I haven't read the entire page you linked to, but based on the info in your

email, I am not sure how they are not raw? Seems the highest temp is 85

degrees. Ok, so they are " cured " but still at temps below the standard for

being considered raw (ie: still active enzymes. Folks vary on when

destruction happens. Anywhere from 105 to 118 degrees.)

:~)

Thia

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Cody <lecody2001@...> wrote:

>

>

> Some sweet potatoes are washed and graded for sale as soon as they are dug.

> This is called the " green crop. " Others are cured and stored in large bins

> until they are needed for market. " Cured " is the process of allowing the

> skin on the potatoes to tighten, the starches to turn to sugars, and the

> abrasions to heal. " Cured " potatoes are sweeter than " green stock " and are

> more resistant to skinning. When sweet potatoes are cured they are kept at a

> constant temperature of about 85 degrees and at a relative humidity of 85 to

> 95 percent for 5 to 7 days. Once the curing process is over, sweet potatoes

> are placed in storage at 55-65 degrees until needed for market.

>

> http://www.agr.state.nc.us/agscool/commodities/sweetkid.htm

>

> Seems most sweet potatoes are not quite raw when you get them... I suspect

> one would have to compare a real fresh one to one that has been cured.

>

> C.

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On 4/25/09, Rushing <lindarsgarden@...> wrote:

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> Boy Sparrow! You have a lot of good sounding recipies. can I have the

> receipe for the pie.

Sure, I'll dig it out and put it at the bottom of this mail.

> Also, What raw cookbooks do you have. I have Rawsome

> and a few others. It is the one I mainly use.

Right now I don't own any cookbooks. I check them out from the library

and photocopy or type out the recipes I like. Some of them I have to

check out multiple times to get all the stuff I want and some only

have eight to fourteen recipes I want. I try to always include the

name of the cookbook, the author and the page number when I type them

out.

The one I have home from the library right now, due back on May 8th,

is called " The Complete Book of Raw Food " and it's a collection of

over 350 recipes from 50 different well-known raw food chefs. I

haven't had a chance to collect up any of the recipes in this book

yet, though I've tried a couple now and seriously modified a sunflower

seed ranch dressing recipe to turn it into a sunflower seed creamy

dill vegetable dip. I think I'll be checking this one out again over

the summer (it's a university library book so I have to hand it back

at the end of semester.)

I have a big wishlist of books I want, but so long as I can get stuff

from the local libraries, it makes sense to get all the use I can out

of those books before buying new ones.

So far, I've checked out:

* The Complete Book of Raw Food by Lori Baird, ed.

* The Complete Idiot's Guide to eating Raw by Reinfeld, Rinaldi and Murray

* Eating in the Raw: A Beginner's Guide to Getting Slimmer, Feeling

Healthier, and Living Longer the Raw Food Way by Carol Alt

* Living on Live Food by Alissa Cohen

* Raw Foods for Busy People: Simple and Machine Free Recipes for Every

Day by Jordan Maerin

* Feasting on Raw Foods by Gerras, ed.

I do own a few books I picked up at the Deseret Industries (local

charity used-item donation shop), including

* Raw Truth: The Art of Preparing Living Foods by Safron

and

* Diet and Salad by Dr. Norman (an old classic raw food book

originally published in 1940, my copy (I own two copies, actually.

They cost 50 cents each at the thrift store!) is the expanded 1971

edition. It was written by the man who designed the Norwalk juicer. He

lived to be 99 years old on raw foods and was strong and healthy and

active and possessed of full mental faculties to the end. Probably

good genetics + good diet.)

Sparrow

Raw Sweet Potato Casserole

INGREDIENTS

1 1/2 cups pecans or walnuts, soaked overnight, then drained (let dry

a bit on a paper towel)

4 cups peeled and chopped sweet potatoes

1/2 cup orange juice (about one large orange)

1/2 cup dates, soaked for about 20 minutes

1 teaspoon cinnamon

1 teaspoon vanilla (extract is not raw. seeds from vanilla beans,

ground in a coffee mill are raw but you will want to cut the quantity

down to about 1/8-1/4 tsp ground seeds)

1/2 teaspoon sea salt

1/4 cup raw honey

DIRECTIONS:

1. Put potatoes, 1/2 cup nuts, dates, cinnamon and vanilla and orange

juice in processor and puree till smooth.

2. Pour into a casserole dish.

3. In another bowl, mix the remaining 1 cup nuts with salt and honey,

and sprinkle over the potato mixture.

4. I enjoyed this at room temperature, but still good straight out of

the fridge.

(note: this recipe was slightly modified by me (Sparrow) from the

original version which was posted at Recipezaar by user " yogi " , recipe

# 151259.)

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Good fats are not the enemy. Saturated fats aren't the problem, they

got a bad rap back in the 50's when they were incorrectly thought to

be the cause of heart disease, clogged arteries and plaque. I can't

even begin to go into the whole story, I will just suggest if you are

interested at all in it to check out the book " good Calories, Bad

Calories " by Taubes. Well worth reading. I'll just say that while

fat is a necessary and healthy part of our diet, it like everything

else should be eaten in moderation.

" anything in the extreme becomes it's opposite "

G

" It came to me that every time I lose a dog they take a piece of my

heart with them. And every new dog who comes into my life gifts me

with a piece of their heart. If I live long enough, all the

components of my heart will be dog, and I will become as generous and

loving as they are. " ~Cheryl Zuccaro

On Apr 23, 2009, at 7:49 PM, melodylubart1 wrote:

LARD??? LARD???

This is healthy??? I have never ever heard that it's good to use lard.

That's a new one for me.

Melody

So I did use the coconut oil, and I will

>>>> continue to

>>>> use it (sparingly) because I do watch my calorie count.

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> At this point, I need the calories. I've lost a lot of weight, and

>>> am where

>>> I think I should be right now. Don't want to loose more! But, I am

>>> really

>>> not using the coconut oil, like I was while loosing. I ate the

>>> stuff like it

>>> was going to be taken away from me!!! LOL.

>>>

>>> :~)

>>> Thia

>>>

>>>

>>>

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Sparrow,

Thanks for the history lesson.....though the analogy was a bit condescending.

Sherry

>

> > Hey Sparrow,

> >

> Would this be all in the recipie? I assume you soak the dates first to

> soften them. This sounds so delicious and would be a nice treat and a very

> healthy dish espically for my son and husband. You know because of the

> Avacado.

Yeah. here's the exact proportions:

Lemon Pudding

1 cup dates, pitted and soaked

1 avocado

2 whole lemons, peeled

Place all ingredients in a blender. Blend until smooth and creamy.

From Living on Live Food by Alissa Cohen, page 518.

And here's the filling of a key lime pie that I sometimes make as lime

pudding (sometimes whole recipe, sometimes cut in half, especially if

I used half a lime for something else already):

Lime Pudding

3 whole large limes

2 cups dates, pitted and soaked

2 avocados

In food processor, blend all filling ingredients until smooth and creamy.

From Living on Live Food by Alissa Cohen, page 521-2.

Enjoy!

Sparrow

p.s. " Living on Live Food " is one of the all-time most amazingly

delicious raw uncookbooks I've tried.

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On 4/26/09, Sherry Skapik <sherryskapik@...> wrote:

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> Sparrow,

> Thanks for the history lesson.....though the analogy was a bit condescending.

I apologize. It was not my intent to condescend. This is an issue that

is dear to my heart as I am half Irish and the people who starved to

death were ill-treated in their own country and worse treated when

they came to America seeking better opportunities. They came here to

find signs that said " Help Wanted: Irish Need Not Apply. " People

didn't know what caused disease yet so they said that Irish people

caused cholera - not sick people, just Irish people. That their

nationality made them naturally contagious. So it kind of gets my

dander up when I hear the smoothed-over version that Irish people just

naturally ate potatoes and the blight was a big fluke of nature. It

was economics, classism and racism (there is more than one race of

Irish people) that killed those folks.

Sorry that my strength of feeling about my fellow Irish and what they

suffered came across as condescension. My intention was to right the

wrongs of history written by the elites and I apologize for any hurt

that my vehemence may have caused.

Sparrow

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I was glad of this email. I hear what you heard and was itching to say

something but there was your reply and I could relax. So thank you for

stepping up and saying what you did. Oh, and though I'm something like

7th generation American and pretty much a mongrel to boot, I am part

Irish too, maybe my favorite part!

G

" It came to me that every time I lose a dog they take a piece of my

heart with them. And every new dog who comes into my life gifts me

with a piece of their heart. If I live long enough, all the

components of my heart will be dog, and I will become as generous and

loving as they are. " ~Cheryl Zuccaro

On Apr 26, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Sparrow R wrote:

On 4/26/09, Sherry Skapik <sherryskapik@...> wrote:

>

> Sparrow,

> Thanks for the history lesson.....though the analogy was a bit

> condescending.

I apologize. It was not my intent to condescend. This is an issue that

is dear to my heart as I am half Irish and the people who starved to

death were ill-treated in their own country and worse treated when

they came to America seeking better opportunities. They came here to

find signs that said " Help Wanted: Irish Need Not Apply. " People

didn't know what caused disease yet so they said that Irish people

caused cholera - not sick people, just Irish people. That their

nationality made them naturally contagious. So it kind of gets my

dander up when I hear the smoothed-over version that Irish people just

naturally ate potatoes and the blight was a big fluke of nature. It

was economics, classism and racism (there is more than one race of

Irish people) that killed those folks.

Sorry that my strength of feeling about my fellow Irish and what they

suffered came across as condescension. My intention was to right the

wrongs of history written by the elites and I apologize for any hurt

that my vehemence may have caused.

Sparrow

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