RE: pulling my hair out over toilet training!!

[Guest guest]

When all else fails, pray! smile. The first time I was going to take Karac

to church without his pullups on, I was scared to death that he might have an

accident because he usually had his BM at that time, but my daughter in law

didn't want me to let him wear pullups any more; so I was trying to comply.

Karac was also 4 and had not used the toilet for the BM yet. I sat him on the

toilet and got down on my knees in front of him and said, " God please let him

poop in the toilet. " He did and he has been trained ever since, and he is now

10.

My problem recently has been with constipation, but we have finally gotten

him to take a laxative in some Sprite. I know this sounds like a hokey story,

but it is the honest truth. Don''t give up; he sounds like a really smart kid.

Pat K

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There is a book for toilet training geared toward autistic kids. look under

autism in any book site and you should find it.

Robin

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We made a picture schedule for our son, sequencing out the steps of the

toileting process, i.e. pull down pants, sit on toilet, pee/poop in toilet,

wipe,

etc. We used the " Picture This " CD-Rom for the pictures and laminated it and

taped it up in every bathroom and went through the steps even when he didn't

actually use the toilet. we also had him watch his brother and his father go and

he eventually got it when he was 5. It takes a lot of work, but he'll get

there! As far as BM, we also had to give him a suppository and then set him on

the toilet. We made a BIG deal out of it when he pooped and praised and

reinforced like crazy until he made the connection. I still have to help him

wipe to

make sure he does a good job, that's our only hurdle remaining. When it is more

reinforcing for him to use the toilet than it is convenient for him to use a

pull up, then he'll be successful. Good luck- he'll get it, just keep working

at it.

Rhonda

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I recently purchased this book --

Toilet Training for Individuals with Autism and Related Disorders Vol. 1: A

Comprehensive Guide for Parents and Teachers by Wheeler

It gave alot of ideas & different scenarios

A child is like a butterfly in the wind, some fly faster, some fly harder but

they all fly the best they can. Each one is different, each one is beautiful

and each one is special.

Re: pulling my hair out over toilet training!!

,

There is a book for toilet training geared toward autistic kids. look under

autism in any book site and you should find it.

Robin

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Thanks everyone... We have put underwear on him and he goes in

them.. he doesnt care... Once I caught him just standing there like

a man aiming, nontheless, tinkling on the corner of the entertainment

center.... He poops in them and throws them away... We bought

his favorite characters thinking, we could use a little

psychology... " We dont want to poop on the Power Rangers/Spiderman

do we? " Doesnt work obviously,and considering he doesnt mind wiping

it on his hands and smearing it everywhere... I dont think me telling

him not to poop on a piece of cloth is going to convince him

lol... I dont know what to do with him.. We left him naked and

he just went in the floor... I saw books about it,at the book

stores, but nothing regarding special needs kids... hmmmm... need to

look that one up... I am going to just make him go every hour on

the hour and see if we cant catch him... but no luck as of yet... If

we do happen to and we throw him on the potty, he just says " No

work, empy, it boken " very cute but annoying lol... as soon as he

gets up he goes... I did buy him a small seat for the regular potty

so he can feel more comfortable... it has handles and is cushioned,

so he can sit there not teetering about to fall in the toilet.

I havent pushed him, I just let him go at his own pace, but I am

ready to push now lol.. I am sorry I know it sounds bad. But he COULD

start kindergarten next year( according to his special ed. preschool

teacher, she thinks he will be ready to go on time), but I cant send

him in diapers... I am going to be really upset if he is able to go

to regular kindergarten and on time, and then cant go because he isnt

potty trained. I will feel like that will be MY fault. I guess I am

not feeling a time crunch... I dont want to push too hard and make it

worse.. I guess I am just having a hard time knowing how much is too

much.

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We havent made him clean it up, but that is an idea... And when

he says " its boken " or " no work " .. he means HE doesnt work LOL...

or that he is empty... its too funny.. although at the time you KNOW

he has to go ( dry diaper in the morning ) he is just obstinant...

because as soon as he stand up and his pant are up, he will have

went in his pants before you get out of the room.. He does go at

school because the big kids do,( tinkle only) but I have found that

they dont check him... They go to the potty twice and if he has an

accident its still there when I pick him up... Not at his Spec. Ed.

school just the mothers day out.... I was going to keep him out

this summer, but I think he needs to be around kids. He has just

recently started asking to go, and remembering kids names, and

saying he wants to see his " prends " ... so I want to keep up his

interest in " prends " ...

[Guest guest]

Beccie, I suppose that you have already tried the old stand by of turning on

the water faucet and letting the water run to see if that would help him

pee?

I had a book once that I got from our local support group that suggested

taking a day when you could devote the entire day to the child. You got the

child to drink as much as possible and took the child to the bathroom quite

often. I want to say every 15 minutes but it has been some time ago and I am

not positive now. Anyway, there was all the praises and rewards for using

the toilet. You also was suppose to have someone help you with this as it

was very time consuming. I had a couple of books on the subject and neither

really worked for us. I never was able to have a day with help for just

potty training. One of the books also stated that unless the child was

ready, it was a lost cause.

Betty Ann-61 yo, possibly Bipolar but undx'd, Effexor, Buspar

grandma and guardian to

- 11 yo-- Bipolar/ADHD on Depakote, Adderall, Singular

Evan - 9 yo nonverbal autism on 2 mg Risperdal,

10 mg Abilify stated 3/11/03, raised 5/05/03

- 7 yo- Bipolar/ADHD/PTSD on Tegretol, Adderall, Clonidine .1 mg,

mother to -32 yo, their mom - Bipolar/ADHD on Topamax, Tegretol,

Singular

wife to Bob - 71 yo, Effexor and too more many meds to remember

[Guest guest]

We did the every 15 minutes with Karac, and it worked great. We had all

kinds of reinforcers in the bathroom; little toys that he liked. Also, we took

the pullups off of him and put him in the little boy pants. For a while, every

time he went we had a big celebration and let him go out on the patio for a

while and play. Pat K

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Try this book: Toilet Training for Individuals with Autism and Related

Disorders

You may be able to find it in your local library...I did.

I have to say though, my daughter did not TT until well after 4 years old.

The reason being, we believe, because she did not have the sensory ability

to " feel " when she needed to go.

Good Luck...this is a real tough one.

Penny

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Oops...lol...I didn't realize someone had already posted this.

:-D

Penny

Re: pulling my hair out over toilet training!!

I recently purchased this book --

Toilet Training for Individuals with Autism and Related Disorders Vol. 1:

A Comprehensive Guide for Parents and Teachers by Wheeler

It gave alot of ideas & different scenarios

A child is like a butterfly in the wind, some fly faster, some fly harder

but they all fly the best they can. Each one is different, each one is

beautiful and each one is special.

[Guest guest]

> Oops...lol...I didn't realize someone had already posted this.

>

> :-D

> Penny

>

NO problem.. thanks for replying , with more than one recommendation

I know this book must be really helpful!

Thanks