Re: resperdal and prozac.....?

[Guest guest]

Lois, we have just put Karac on Risperdal. How much does your son weigh, and

has he had any side effects from the Risperdal? How much is he taking? Is

your son verbal? What has the Risperdal done for him? Karac was only on

prozac when he was much younger and for only a short time. It just seemed to

make

him hyper. Pat K

[Guest guest]

Lois, I have had the same problem as you except than in addition to

aggression Whitney(9) has also developed screaming tantrums. At first the Prozac

seemed

to help and gave her the giggles, but after a month of aggression and

tantrums, Yesterday I decided to stop giving her it. I dont have any advice

cause I'm

looking for some myself, but I know what your going through.

Robin

[Guest guest]

When my son was on prozac, the aide found him literally climbing on the rafters

in the boy's room. He could have killed himself if he fell, but school

personnel swore that it was helping him! My son was also on risperdal and it

seemed to help him at first, but 25 pound weight gain like most kids. My son's

current neurologist does not like risperdal because he says kids quickly reach a

plateau and you have to continually increase the dosage. I have also heard the

same thing from some parents.

Joanne

[Guest guest]

Robin,

Hi! JJ is doing much better with the agression (Lack of it) since I took him

off the prozac. Its a mess trying to figure out what will help the kids. Lois

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Re: resperdal and prozac.....?

Lois, I have had the same problem as you except than in addition to

aggression Whitney(9) has also developed screaming tantrums. At first the

Prozac seemed

to help and gave her the giggles, but after a month of aggression and

tantrums, Yesterday I decided to stop giving her it. I dont have any advice

cause I'm

looking for some myself, but I know what your going through.

Robin

[Guest guest]

Lois, Is music therapy just for speech or can it be used for school subjects

and social skills also? I have seen it mentioned a few times on different

sites, but theres never much info about it.

Thanks, Robin

[Guest guest]

Hi pat!

JJ is taking 0.5mg or resperdal 2 times a day. (Morning and Night) It has

helped him alot with agression. It started to get agression when he hit

puberity. I know a side effect of resperdal is weight gain BUT JJ is 15 and

weighs a whopping 102 pounds!! haha!

JJ can put small sentences together but " Chit-chats " to himself all the time.

He is under the land autism waiver and gets music therapy, horseback

riding, and 15 hours a week of one on one. Lois

Lois Noland

President

Washington county ASA

721 Georgia Ave Hagerstown Md 21740

240-420-3692

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Re: resperdal and prozac.....?

Lois, we have just put Karac on Risperdal. How much does your son weigh, and

has he had any side effects from the Risperdal? How much is he taking? Is

your son verbal? What has the Risperdal done for him? Karac was only on

prozac when he was much younger and for only a short time. It just seemed to

make

him hyper. Pat K

[Guest guest]

Evan's telemedicine doctor kept slowly upping Evan's Risperdal but there was

a limit, he said to how much he upped it because he wanted to keep it

available in case he got real aggressive as he got older. It is strange

that those on the bipolar list complain a lot about loss of bladder control

with their kids on Risperdal but the doctor either denies the problem or say

it is rare. Joane, was climbing on top of the bathroom stalls a

couple of years ago but he was going through a manic phase because of his

Adderall and no mood stabilizer. He had a counselor trying to catch him and

take him to the office for slugging a kid in class who had been hitting him

on the play ground. panicked on him and lead him a merry chase around

the school grounds, ending up in the bathroom. When he finally got

down, he threw him over his shoulders and carried him to the office. This

was during the time I was fighting mental health and the school pscyhe for a

bipolar dx. I got it from a private pdoc just before I yanked him to

homeschool him.

BETTY ANN-61 yo, possibly Bipolar but undx'd,

Effexor, Buspar, Serenity

grandma and guardian to

ANDREW - 11 yo-- Bipolar/ADHD,

Depakote 250 mg. 2 x daily, Adderall 30 mg daily, Abilify 7.5 mg 1 x daily

EVAN - 9 yo-- nonverbal autism, Risperdal 2.5 cc daily, Abilify 10 mg 1x

daily

DAVID 7 yo Bipolar/ADHD/PTSD, , Adderall 20 mg daily, .25 mg Risperdal 2 x

daily

and mother to ANDREA -32 yo, their mom -

Bipolar/ADHD, Topamax, Tegretol, Singular, Serenity

wife to BOB - 72 yo, a very patient and tired grandpa

Re: resperdal and prozac.....?

> When my son was on prozac, the aide found him literally climbing on the

rafters in the boy's room. He could have killed himself if he fell, but

school personnel swore that it was helping him! My son was also on

risperdal and it seemed to help him at first, but 25 pound weight gain like

most kids. My son's current neurologist does not like risperdal because he

says kids quickly reach a plateau and you have to continually increase the

dosage. I have also heard the same thing from some parents.

>

> Joanne

[Guest guest]

Lois, Evan is 9 and weighs 95 lbs all ready. He does not have too much to

grow to catch up to me in height. I think he has grown a couple of inches

since he was measured at the doctor's and then he was 55 " . I wish Evan could

put any kind of sentence together or even a few words. I have not given up

hope yet.

BETTY

----- Original Message -----

From: " Lois Nolan " <jlois@...>

> Hi pat!

> JJ is taking 0.5mg or resperdal 2 times a day. (Morning and Night) It

has helped him alot with agression. It started to get agression when he hit

puberity. I know a side effect of resperdal is weight gain BUT JJ is 15 and

weighs a whopping 102 pounds!! haha!

> JJ can put small sentences together but " Chit-chats " to himself all the

time.

> He is under the land autism waiver and gets music therapy, horseback

riding, and 15 hours a week of one on one. Lois

[Guest guest]

Pat,

JJ has more language now then he did at age 9. It is hard for JJ to have a

conversation tho. If you ask him something he will answer with a yes-no or a

small sentence. The music therapy has helped him have more language. Lois

Lois Noland

President

Washington county ASA

721 Georgia Ave Hagerstown Md 21740

240-420-3692

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Re: resperdal and prozac.....?

Lois, Evan is 9 and weighs 95 lbs all ready. He does not have too much to

grow to catch up to me in height. I think he has grown a couple of inches

since he was measured at the doctor's and then he was 55 " . I wish Evan could

put any kind of sentence together or even a few words. I have not given up

hope yet.

BETTY

----- Original Message -----

From: " Lois Nolan " <jlois@...>

> Hi pat!

> JJ is taking 0.5mg or resperdal 2 times a day. (Morning and Night) It

has helped him alot with agression. It started to get agression when he hit

puberity. I know a side effect of resperdal is weight gain BUT JJ is 15 and

weighs a whopping 102 pounds!! haha!

> JJ can put small sentences together but " Chit-chats " to himself all the

time.

> He is under the land autism waiver and gets music therapy, horseback

riding, and 15 hours a week of one on one. Lois

[Guest guest]

Robin,

Music therapy can be used to teach many things.........JJ learned his

address-phone number-and is learning how to tell time tho music therapy. he is

also learning how to tie his shoes thru music therapy. Gena is also teaching J

about emotions thru music therapy. Lois

Lois Noland

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Re: resperdal and prozac.....?

Lois, Is music therapy just for speech or can it be used for school subjects

and social skills also? I have seen it mentioned a few times on different

sites, but theres never much info about it.

Thanks, Robin

[Guest guest]

Josh started music therapy in esy this summer and is doing great. The

district is adding it to his iep for the school year. He does more during

this time than any other in school

Re: resperdal and prozac.....?

>

>

> Lois, Is music therapy just for speech or can it be used for school

subjects

> and social skills also? I have seen it mentioned a few times on

different

> sites, but theres never much info about it.

> Thanks, Robin

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have an epal in New Zealand whose son learned to talk by her singing her

conversations with him. She was wondering if it might work on Evan but he

did not seem interested in it although a girl on his bus seems to talk by

singing her conversations. Evan likes music but has not attempted to keep

tune with it except to bounce in tune to it.

BETTY

----- Original Message -----

From: " Lois Nolan " <jlois@...>

> Pat,

> JJ has more language now then he did at age 9. It is hard for JJ to have

a conversation tho. If you ask him something he will answer with a yes-no or

a small sentence. The music therapy has helped him have more language. Lois

[Guest guest]

Lois, are there any web sites where I can get info on this,and maybe some

teaching products? Whitney and I do a lot of singing at home, and shes starting

to sing things she wants and I'll sing the answer back. Example: " mom I'm

hungry: " whitney its cooking " Whitney does talk good, but shes in the forth

grade

and at a first grade level. Math is the worst for her. Seeing as how she loves

music and singing, this might be what she needs to learn better. Any info

would be appricated.

Robin

[Guest guest]

That's a good idea. I think Karac could learn to do that. We have made

conversation out of some of the rhymes that he knows. i.e. " Hey Diddle Diddle " ;

I

say, " What did the cat do? " he says, " played the fiddle " ; I say, " and what

did the cow do? " he says, " he jumped over the moon. " I say, " What did the

little dog do? " He says, " he jumped over the moon. " etc. You get the idea.

I just wish we could get rid of the spells of pain that Karac is having! Is

Evan ever going to get off Risperdal? Do you think it would stop the loss of

bladder control? Does he control the BM's? Blessings, Pat K

[Guest guest]

Lois, tell me more about how the music therapy works? Pat K

[Guest guest]

Lois, that is the amount that Karac is on. Has JJ had any problem with

bladder control? Pat K

[Guest guest]

Pat, Evan normally controls his bowel movements but not always in the manner

that is appropriate. Sometimes he will go outside and then put it into the

kids' pool. Such fun!

I am sure hoping that once he gets completely off the Risperdal the wetting

will stop but now I am worrying that he has been doing it so long that it

has become behavioral. He rarely does it at home or when he goes to town,

except for when he was on the Tenex for a short time. I did not give him

any yesterday but he is still getting 1.5 mg while at summer school. He gets

out of summer school July 3rd. He sees his telemedicine doctor July 14th. He

may raise his Abilify another 5 mg then or leave him where he is.

BETTY ANN-61 yo, possibly Bipolar but undx'd,

Effexor, Buspar, Serenity

grandma and guardian to

ANDREW - 11 yo-- Bipolar/ADHD,

Depakote 250 mg. 2 x daily, Adderall 30 mg daily, Abilify 7.5 mg 1 x daily

EVAN - 9 yo-- nonverbal autism, Risperdal 2.5 cc daily, Abilify 10 mg 1x

daily

DAVID 7 yo Bipolar/ADHD/PTSD, , Adderall 20 mg daily, .25 mg Risperdal 2 x

daily

and mother to ANDREA -32 yo, their mom -

Bipolar/ADHD, Topamax, Tegretol, Singular, Serenity

wife to BOB - 72 yo, a very patient and tired grandpa

----- Original Message -----

From: <pkuenstler@...>

> That's a good idea. I think Karac could learn to do that. We have made

> conversation out of some of the rhymes that he knows. i.e. " Hey Diddle

Diddle " ; I

> say, " What did the cat do? " he says, " played the fiddle " ; I say, " and

what

> did the cow do? " he says, " he jumped over the moon. " I say, " What did the

> little dog do? " He says, " he jumped over the moon. " etc. You get the

idea.

>

> I just wish we could get rid of the spells of pain that Karac is having!

Is

> Evan ever going to get off Risperdal? Do you think it would stop the loss

of

> bladder control? Does he control the BM's? Blessings, Pat K

[Guest guest]

Betty,

If you get a music therapist that works with children with autism they will

know how to begin with Evan. Lois

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721 Georgia Ave Hagerstown Md 21740

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Re: resperdal and prozac.....?

I have an epal in New Zealand whose son learned to talk by her singing her

conversations with him. She was wondering if it might work on Evan but he

did not seem interested in it although a girl on his bus seems to talk by

singing her conversations. Evan likes music but has not attempted to keep

tune with it except to bounce in tune to it.

BETTY

----- Original Message -----

From: " Lois Nolan " <jlois@...>

> Pat,

> JJ has more language now then he did at age 9. It is hard for JJ to have

a conversation tho. If you ask him something he will answer with a yes-no or

a small sentence. The music therapy has helped him have more language. Lois

[Guest guest]

I don't have a site but go to search and write in Music therapy and see what

comes up. Where do you live? I live in Hagerstown md Lois

Lois Noland

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Re: resperdal and prozac.....?

Lois, are there any web sites where I can get info on this,and maybe some

teaching products? Whitney and I do a lot of singing at home, and shes

starting

to sing things she wants and I'll sing the answer back. Example: " mom I'm

hungry: " whitney its cooking " Whitney does talk good, but shes in the forth

grade

and at a first grade level. Math is the worst for her. Seeing as how she loves

music and singing, this might be what she needs to learn better. Any info

would be appricated.

Robin

[Guest guest]

Pat,

I don't know if its control issues or just behaviour but he will pee on the

coffee table. He " Knows " how to pee in the tolet so I don't know what it is.

Lois

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Re: resperdal and prozac.....?

Lois, that is the amount that Karac is on. Has JJ had any problem with

bladder control? Pat K

[Guest guest]

That Evan is something else, isn't he? smile. Does he ever use the toilet

to urinate?

One time Karac used the bathroom outside, and the dog ate it! Did you ever

hear of a dog doing that? Yuck! Pat K

[Guest guest]

Lois, it sounds like behavior if he deliberately pees on the coffee table.

But what do I know? smile. Pat K

[Guest guest]

Oh yeh......I think its a " daddy " thing.......He only does it when dad is home!

haha! Lois

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Re: resperdal and prozac.....?

Lois, it sounds like behavior if he deliberately pees on the coffee table.

But what do I know? smile. Pat K

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/24/03 11:45:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

pkuenstler@... writes:

> We have made

> conversation out of some of the rhymes that he knows. i.e. " Hey Diddle

> Diddle

This reminds me of the time I was singing Old Mc to my granddaughter

and I asked her what he had on his farm and she said " french fries. " I thought

it was a pretty good answer myself.

[Guest guest]

, that is so funny. These kids are so smart in their own way. Pat K