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Apples, peaches, grapes, milk and apple juice are all very high in phenols.

Phenols can cause aggression...........Diet is one of the easiest and definitely

safest thing to change,

depending how committed you are to what your child can eat, instead of focusing

on what he cannot consume.

" Symptoms of phenol sensitivity

Some typical symptoms indicating your child may have a phenol problem are [not

all of these need be present]: dark circles under the eyes, red face/ears,

diarrhea, hyperactivity, aggression, headache, head banging or other

self-injury, inappropriate laughter, difficulty falling asleep at night, and

night waking for several hours " from: http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

RE: Aggression - how to....

Dear Rose and Pat K.

No he is not on any special diet. I asked about that and MD said I

was already dealing with too much and not to worry about that at this

time. His diet consists mostly of fresh / steamed veggies, and

things that he can pick up and eat by himself like crackers, cheese,

apples, peaches, grapes, and cereal. He has about two glasses of milk

a day and the rest of the day drinks water and apple juice. The

abilify was going to be used for aggression, and that is still a

possibility depending on how things go. My son also bites and it is

just an awful thing to have to deal with. Thanks, Mom

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The diet is hard to go with. I had a hard time doing it for Evan for almost

a year and then and moved in with us. After that it was

impossible. was always leaving food around that Evan was not suppose

to eat and was always forgetting what he could eat. And a few

thousand dollars later he still had not changed much, if at all. I wish I

had spent that money on doing NAET in the first place. I heard about NAET

from the gf-cfkids lists but it was not until after I left it that I

actually tried it. It has been doing some good but I think the Abilify is

doing more.

One of Evan's former classmates was a biter. It was so hard on his mother.

Pretty hard on his classmates also. Evan got bit more than once when the

adults had their backs turned. He has a brother about the age of and

from his behavior I would now guess that he probably is also bipolar/ADHD.

His family moved from here, trying to get better services. I hope they found

it.

Betty Ann-61 yo, possibly Bipolar but undx'd, Effexor, Buspar

grandma and guardian to

- 11 yo-- Bipolar/ADHD on Depakote, Adderall, Singular

Evan - 9 yo nonverbal autism on 3 mg Risperdal, 5 mg Abilify stated

3/11/03

- 6 yo- Bipolar/ADHD/PTSD on Tegretol, Adderall, Clonidine .1 mg,

mother to -32 yo, their mom - Bipolar/ADHD on Topamax, Singular

wife to Bob - 71 yo, Effexor and too more many meds to remember

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> Dear Rose and Pat K.

> No he is not on any special diet. I asked about that and MD said I

> was already dealing with too much and not to worry about that at this

> time. His diet consists mostly of fresh / steamed veggies, and

> things that he can pick up and eat by himself like crackers, cheese,

> apples, peaches, grapes, and cereal. He has about two glasses of milk

> a day and the rest of the day drinks water and apple juice. The

> abilify was going to be used for aggression, and that is still a

> possibility depending on how things go. My son also bites and it is

> just an awful thing to have to deal with. Thanks, Mom

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Please seriously consider removing milk products from his diet. Please, get

yourself a good book. " Kids with Starving Brains " , " Facing Autism " , etc. My son

is nearly 10 and I could absolutely KICK MYSELF for not taking steps in this

direction sooner. In December we took my son off of milk. Yesterday he ate a

bowl of rice and dried mangoe slices.he has NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE. He is

reading at a first grade level!!!! His eye contact is amazing! He is

addressing people by name spontaneously, he's saying hi and goodbye,

spontaneously. He is having only a rare, occasional " meltdown " . He isn't

constipated anymore and has stopped having " accidents " . The thing is, if you

start now, you may be able to make serious improvements. Please e me privately

if you wish and please check out the group for further information.

This is what they suggest in this order, and it's not

overwhelming.gluten-free/casein-free diet, addressing yeast problems, taking

care of any immune deficiences and then, possibly medication. Your regular

medical doctor is probably not aware of any of the things parents with autistic

children are doing to better their children. That's ok, you can teach him as

you go along. Please, start slowly weeding milk products out of his diet, then

make sure you have anything with whey, or milk/casein derivatives. It doesn't

have to all be done immediately, but I think you may see a very big difference.

All the best~~

Rose

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Dear Rose and Pat K.

No he is not on any special diet. I asked about that and MD said I

was already dealing with too much and not to worry about that at this

time. His diet consists mostly of fresh / steamed veggies, and

things that he can pick up and eat by himself like crackers, cheese,

apples, peaches, grapes, and cereal. He has about two glasses of milk

a day and the rest of the day drinks water and apple juice. The

abilify was going to be used for aggression, and that is still a

possibility depending on how things go. My son also bites and it is

just an awful thing to have to deal with. Thanks, Mom

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PSS~~Compared to meltdowns, the diet is a cinch!!!!

Rose

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The diet is hard to go with. I had a hard time doing it for Evan for almost

a year and then and moved in with us. After that it was

impossible. was always leaving food around that Evan was not suppose

to eat and was always forgetting what he could eat. And a few

thousand dollars later he still had not changed much, if at all. I wish I

had spent that money on doing NAET in the first place. I heard about NAET

from the gf-cfkids lists but it was not until after I left it that I

actually tried it. It has been doing some good but I think the Abilify is

doing more.

One of Evan's former classmates was a biter. It was so hard on his mother.

Pretty hard on his classmates also. Evan got bit more than once when the

adults had their backs turned. He has a brother about the age of and

from his behavior I would now guess that he probably is also bipolar/ADHD.

His family moved from here, trying to get better services. I hope they found

it.

Betty Ann-61 yo, possibly Bipolar but undx'd, Effexor, Buspar

grandma and guardian to

- 11 yo-- Bipolar/ADHD on Depakote, Adderall, Singular

Evan - 9 yo nonverbal autism on 3 mg Risperdal, 5 mg Abilify stated

3/11/03

- 6 yo- Bipolar/ADHD/PTSD on Tegretol, Adderall, Clonidine .1 mg,

mother to -32 yo, their mom - Bipolar/ADHD on Topamax, Singular

wife to Bob - 71 yo, Effexor and too more many meds to remember

----- Original Message -----

From: " psarar " <Psarar@...>

> Dear Rose and Pat K.

> No he is not on any special diet. I asked about that and MD said I

> was already dealing with too much and not to worry about that at this

> time. His diet consists mostly of fresh / steamed veggies, and

> things that he can pick up and eat by himself like crackers, cheese,

> apples, peaches, grapes, and cereal. He has about two glasses of milk

> a day and the rest of the day drinks water and apple juice. The

> abilify was going to be used for aggression, and that is still a

> possibility depending on how things go. My son also bites and it is

> just an awful thing to have to deal with. Thanks, Mom

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Mom, that is great that your son will eat steamed vegetables. The only

vegetable that Karac will eat is a raw carrot and I am thankful for that!

The Zydis stopped Karac's biting, but it caused 30 lbs in weight gain; so we

are now trying to Abilify and so far it looks promising, but this is only the

second week; so I can't be sure. It sounds like the diet has worked great

for Rose. Karac's mother has never been willing to try the diet

consistently, but it is certainly worth the try. Pat K

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You must admit though, that the diet doesn't work for every child and it's

neccesary to figure out a way to deal with the behavior that isn't due to

food allergies, celiac disease, etc., and is just b/c he is autistic.

Myself and 3 other friends put our children on the diet for a year with no

success whatsoever, although I understand that it has made a miraculous

change in some children's lives. Several people in our support group swear by

it, it's just unfortunate that it does not work for every child and we as

parents need to be prepared to deal with that. I think everyone should try

it, though!

It's also worth looking into the possibililty of a mood disorder, which can

be a co-diagnosis with autism.

Just my 2 cents.

Rhonda

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http://www.naet.com/

NAET, Nambudripad's Allergy Elimination Techniques

The site can explain better than I can. But you work with eliminating the

allergies instead of just eliminating the foods or whatever causes the allergy.

Betty

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> Just curious. What is NAET?

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> Rhonda

> Mom to Max,9, autistic/bipolar

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http://www.naet.com/

NAET, Nambudripad's Allergy Elimination Techniques

The site can explain better than I can. But you work with eliminating the

allergies instead of just eliminating the foods or whatever causes the allergy.

Betty

----- Original Message -----

From: <rhndahood5@...>

> Just curious. What is NAET?

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>

> Rhonda

> Mom to Max,9, autistic/bipolar

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I have to add my two cents here. I agree with Rose. If your child has a

problem with casein taking him off will give you good results. I slowly took

Evan off anything with casein--you have to learn to read them labels on

EVERYTHING you buy because they sneak it in the strangest places but many

children have been recovered whose autism was caused by a reaction to casein

and/or gluten. I am afraid that Evan is more the classic autism and not the

eviromentally induced.

Betty

Re: RE: Aggression - how to....

> Please seriously consider removing milk products from his diet. Please,

get yourself a good book. " Kids with Starving Brains " , " Facing Autism " , etc.

My son is nearly 10 and I could absolutely KICK MYSELF for not taking steps

in this direction sooner. In December we took my son off of milk.

Yesterday he ate a bowl of rice and dried mangoe slices.he has NEVER DONE

THIS BEFORE. He is reading at a first grade level!!!! His eye contact is

amazing! He is addressing people by name spontaneously, he's saying hi and

goodbye, spontaneously. He is having only a rare, occasional " meltdown " .

He isn't constipated anymore and has stopped having " accidents " . The thing

is, if you start now, you may be able to make serious improvements. Please

e me privately if you wish and please check out the group for

further information. This is what they suggest in this order, and it's not

overwhelming.gluten-free/casein-free diet, addressing yeast problems, taking

care of any immune deficiences and then, possibly medication. Your regular

medical doctor is probably not aware of any of the things parents with

autistic children are doing to better their children. That's ok, you can

teach him as you go along. Please, start slowly weeding milk products out

of his diet, then make sure you have anything with whey, or milk/casein deri

vatives. It doesn't have to all be done immediately, but I think you may

see a very big difference.

> All the best~~

> Rose

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I agree, I'm certainly no expert, but am really worried about you'all and any

unnecessary suffering. After going through so many years and so much ill temper

(my arms are scarred from shoulders to fingertips), it's nice to have a bit of

control over my son's moods. It's not perfect and it's not fullproof, but I

strongly urge you to get your child off milk. Do it slowly one item at a time

and it really isn't that difficult. Rhonda, I'm so sorry that the diet didn't

work for you. I don't have any answers. We tried the diet when my son was 4

and he almost starved to death and things got worse for us as well. Now,

however, there is so much more reliable information and step-by-step directives

on how to go about it and I am thankful that we gave it a second chance. My son

still has autism and we still have a million more battles to fight and we're

right in the trenches with you guys.

All the best~~

Rose

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Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 3:45 PM

Subject: Re: RE: Aggression - how to....

You must admit though, that the diet doesn't work for every child and it's

neccesary to figure out a way to deal with the behavior that isn't due to

food allergies, celiac disease, etc., and is just b/c he is autistic.

Myself and 3 other friends put our children on the diet for a year with no

success whatsoever, although I understand that it has made a miraculous

change in some children's lives. Several people in our support group swear by

it, it's just unfortunate that it does not work for every child and we as

parents need to be prepared to deal with that. I think everyone should try

it, though!

It's also worth looking into the possibililty of a mood disorder, which can

be a co-diagnosis with autism.

Just my 2 cents.

Rhonda

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