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In a message dated 12/18/2008 5:16:11 PM Central Standard Time,

eliz7212@... writes:

> ...I have stopped buying lettuce and I use the alfalfa as a base for my

> organic salad. I add some of my home-grown sprouts, some grape tomatoes, some

> mushrooms, a splash of extra virgin olive oil, and perhaps a can of tuna on

the

> salad. That's my lunch. For dinner, I'll have a same stuff for a salad and a

> piece of fish....

>

Weil says not to eat mushrooms raw, but I don't know if that is

correct or not.

You mentioned both tuna and fish. Just be careful not to overdo fish (tuna

especially) or you may end up with too much mercury in your system.

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I've stopped buying lettuce a long time ago, but I have not stopped

growing it. I'm very fortunate to live in SoCal. In my garden today, I

have four kinds of lettuce and baby spinach ready to harvest. I have two

kinds of peas, spring onions, broccoli, cabbage, beets, carrots, turnips

all up and happy and I'm looking forward to eating the healthy produce.

After the last frost date, I will be planting a lot more. Oh, and I

should mention the my Jerusalm Artichokes are ready to harvest.

Re: Re: I want to buy some Alfalfa

Seeds / mushrooms, fish

Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 21:44:28 EST

In a message dated 12/18/2008 5:16:11 PM Central Standard Time,

eliz7212@... writes:

> ...I have stopped buying lettuce and I use the alfalfa as a base

for my

> organic salad. I add some of my home-grown sprouts, some grape

tomatoes, some

> mushrooms, a splash of extra virgin olive oil, and perhaps a can of

tuna on the

> salad. That's my lunch. For dinner, I'll have a same stuff for a

salad and a

> piece of fish....

>

Weil says not to eat mushrooms raw, but I don't know if that

is

correct or not.

You mentioned both tuna and fish. Just be careful not to overdo fish

(tuna

especially) or you may end up with too much mercury in your system.

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Ernest

 

I live south of houston tx so I may have a similar growing season as you. I have

never had a vegetable garden but I have grape fruit, orange, black berries ,

blue berries (berries feed the birds) and 4 pecan trees ( feeds the squirrels).

These plants & trees almost take care of themselves.

 

I am curiuos how large is your garden and how much time do you invest in it a

week to get such a great harvest? I am a working engineer and a rock drummer so

time is budgeted. What type of tiller would you recommend? Any web sites for the

beginning gardener?

 

I am preparing for hard times, fresh food is one of those essentials.

 

Thanks

tlh

From: Ernest Willingham <99tomatoes@...>

Subject: Re: Re: I want to buy some Alfalfa Seeds /

mushrooms, fish

Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 10:00 PM

I've stopped buying lettuce a long time ago, but I have not stopped

growing it. I'm very fortunate to live in SoCal. In my garden today, I

have four kinds of lettuce and baby spinach ready to harvest. I have two

kinds of peas, spring onions, broccoli, cabbage, beets, carrots, turnips

all up and happy and I'm looking forward to eating the healthy produce.

After the last frost date, I will be planting a lot more. Oh, and I

should mention the my Jerusalm Artichokes are ready to harvest.

Re: Re: I want to buy some Alfalfa

Seeds / mushrooms, fish

Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 21:44:28 EST

In a message dated 12/18/2008 5:16:11 PM Central Standard Time,

eliz7212verizon (DOT) net writes:

> ...I have stopped buying lettuce and I use the alfalfa as a base

for my

> organic salad. I add some of my home-grown sprouts, some grape

tomatoes, some

> mushrooms, a splash of extra virgin olive oil, and perhaps a can of

tuna on the

> salad. That's my lunch. For dinner, I'll have a same stuff for a

salad and a

> piece of fish....

>

Weil says not to eat mushrooms raw, but I don't know if that

is

correct or not.

You mentioned both tuna and fish. Just be careful not to overdo fish

(tuna

especially) or you may end up with too much mercury in your system.

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I do not till the soil. Tilling ruins the tilth and destroys the

friendly microorganisms and kills earthworms. I have raised beds. My yard

is not large, but I grow in every available square inch. I have no lawn.

I work a plan called edible estates (google). I have flowers. I have

beautiful roses. My many fruit trees are dwarf. I grow a little bit of a

lot of things, because I am just feeding me and the wife and a 90 year

old neighbor lady. For instance, I have four different lettuces that I am

harvesting right now, but each lettuce row is only four feet long. I pull

off the outer leaves for my salad and the plant continues to grow. I

won't have to plant lettuce again this year. I do the same thing with

swiss chard. You can take some leaves from your beets and the beet will

continue to grow and mature. Because of the raised beds and drip

irrigation, I don't spend more than 10 hour a week in the garden. I am

not able to do a lot of things and have a HS boy come in on Sat. and help

me for four hours week. I agree, prepare for hard times. If they don't

come, you haven't wasted your time, you still have good food to eat.

ew

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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 21:44:28 EST

In a message dated 12/18/2008 5:16:11 PM Central Standard Time,

eliz7212verizon (DOT) net writes:

> ...I have stopped buying lettuce and I use the alfalfa as a base

for my

> organic salad. I add some of my home-grown sprouts, some grape

tomatoes, some

> mushrooms, a splash of extra virgin olive oil, and perhaps a can of

tuna on the

> salad. That's my lunch. For dinner, I'll have a same stuff for a

salad and a

> piece of fish....

>

Weil says not to eat mushrooms raw, but I don't know if that

is

correct or not.

You mentioned both tuna and fish. Just be careful not to overdo fish

(tuna

especially) or you may end up with too much mercury in your system.

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Hi Jeff, Thank goodness someone got the gist of what I was trying, rather

clumsily I admit, to say. Button mushrooms worthless? I take you to task, sir!

ANYTHING that tastes so good must make you feel good, that to me is one big

personal worth. I'm also pretty sure that regularly eating mushrooms will lead

to a prolonged feeling of enjoyment and pleasure. If so, it's self-obvious, at

least to me, that that has JUST GOT TO BE GOOD FOR YOU! Feel good...Feel

well....Be well! Like it!

Doug.

:-)

This is really a message from Doug, only slightly tongue in cheek!

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fishDate: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 21:44:28 ESTIn a message dated 12/18/2008 5:16:11 PM

Central Standard Time,eliz7212verizon (DOT) net writes:> ...I have stopped buying

lettuce and I use the alfalfa as a basefor my> organic salad. I add some of my

home-grown sprouts, some grapetomatoes, some> mushrooms, a splash of extra

virgin olive oil, and perhaps a can oftuna on the> salad. That's my lunch. For

dinner, I'll have a same stuff for asalad and a> piece of fish....> Weil

says not to eat mushrooms raw, but I don't know if thatiscorrect or not.You

mentioned both tuna and fish. Just be careful not to overdo fish(tunaespecially)

or you may end up with too much mercury in your system.************ **A

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I'm afraid I don't understand the question. Raised bed gardens are boxes

filled with soil. they can be made from many things. Mine are cinder

block. They are several sizes to fit the area where I built them. I have

two that are 3 1/2 feet wide and 12 foot long on the inside. I currently

have 10 of various sizes and plans to build more. The advantage of raised

beds is that you don't have to bend over so far to work them. You never

walk on your growing soil, so that you don't compact it, and you can fill

them with good soil if you yard has terrible soil as mine does. Mine are

filled with equal parts of compost, perlite and peat. You can use

vermiculite in place of perlite. With this mix in place you only have to

add compost each time you harvest before you plant again.Raised beds are

sort of like having giant containers in your yard. The only reason I can

see for stacking pallets is to put pots on them.

ew

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Seeds / mushrooms, fish

Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 21:44:28 EST

In a message dated 12/18/2008 5:16:11 PM Central Standard Time,

eliz7212verizon (DOT) net writes:

> ...I have stopped buying lettuce and I use the alfalfa as a base

for my

> organic salad. I add some of my home-grown sprouts, some grape

tomatoes, some

> mushrooms, a splash of extra virgin olive oil, and perhaps a can of

tuna on the

> salad. That's my lunch. For dinner, I'll have a same stuff for a

salad and a

> piece of fish....

>

Weil says not to eat mushrooms raw, but I don't know if that

is

correct or not.

You mentioned both tuna and fish. Just be careful not to overdo fish

(tuna

especially) or you may end up with too much mercury in your system.

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Just a note about pallets. Some are treated with chemicals, although I

don't know which ones. Might do some research on the internet before

getting any. We don't use them for firewood when we camp for this

reason. They have a really bad smell when they burn.

EW has some great info about gardening in a small space and years ago,

when I had room, I used the Square Foot Gardening Method by Barthalamew.

Not the correct spelling. Had great crops, used little water. Initial

set was a bear because it was in Arizona and the soil had to be

replaced, but he guides you thru it. EW might know about this method or

a better one. I like the idea of raised beds,not so much bending over

for this old back!

Diane

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As a matter of fact, I know Mel personally. You can probably get his

book in your local library. Its called " Square Foot Gardening " . He did a

PBS TV show a few years back and the videos are in the LA County Library,

you might check yours. Also, google Square Foot Gardening and check out

his web site. The soil being a 'bear' is the reason for the mix. He calls

it Mel's mix: equal parts of vermiculite, peat and compost. That way you

avoid your native soil problems. I use perlite instead of vermiculite. It

costs less and does the same job. Mel has revised his book and it is

currently in the book stores.

ew

Re: I want to buy some Alfalfa Seeds /

mushrooms, fish

Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:04:46 -0700

Just a note about pallets. Some are treated with chemicals, although

I

don't know which ones. Might do some research on the internet before

getting any. We don't use them for firewood when we camp for this

reason. They have a really bad smell when they burn.

EW has some great info about gardening in a small space and years

ago,

when I had room, I used the Square Foot Gardening Method by

Bartholomew.

Not the correct spelling. Had great crops, used little water. Initial

set was a bear because it was in Arizona and the soil had to be

replaced, but he guides you thru it. EW might know about this method

or

a better one. I like the idea of raised beds,not so much bending over

for this old back!

Diane

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Thanks EW. I just ordered a copy of the book on amazon Used-Very Good for $2.23.

Thanks for the insite from you before I bought a $1k tiller.

 

Terry H.

From: Ernest Willingham <99tomatoes@...>

Subject: Re: Re: I want to buy some Alfalfa Seeds /

mushrooms, fish

Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 1:15 AM

As a matter of fact, I know Mel personally. You can probably get his

book in your local library. Its called " Square Foot Gardening " . He did a

PBS TV show a few years back and the videos are in the LA County Library,

you might check yours. Also, google Square Foot Gardening and check out

his web site. The soil being a 'bear' is the reason for the mix. He calls

it Mel's mix: equal parts of vermiculite, peat and compost. That way you

avoid your native soil problems. I use perlite instead of vermiculite. It

costs less and does the same job. Mel has revised his book and it is

currently in the book stores.

ew

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mushrooms, fish

Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:04:46 -0700

Just a note about pallets. Some are treated with chemicals, although

I

don't know which ones. Might do some research on the internet before

getting any. We don't use them for firewood when we camp for this

reason. They have a really bad smell when they burn.

EW has some great info about gardening in a small space and years

ago,

when I had room, I used the Square Foot Gardening Method by

Bartholomew.

Not the correct spelling. Had great crops, used little water. Initial

set was a bear because it was in Arizona and the soil had to be

replaced, but he guides you thru it. EW might know about this method

or

a better one. I like the idea of raised beds,not so much bending over

for this old back!

Diane

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wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad. "

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I didn't realize they were treated with chemicals, i will have to find out.

thanks for the info...debbie

From: Diane and <sunflowr@...>

Subject: Re: I want to buy some Alfalfa Seeds / mushrooms,

fish

Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 6:04 AM

Just a note about pallets. Some are treated with chemicals, although I

don't know which ones. Might do some research on the internet before

getting any. We don't use them for firewood when we camp for this

reason. They have a really bad smell when they burn.

EW has some great info about gardening in a small space and years ago,

when I had room, I used the Square Foot Gardening Method by Barthalamew.

Not the correct spelling. Had great crops, used little water. Initial

set was a bear because it was in Arizona and the soil had to be

replaced, but he guides you thru it. EW might know about this method or

a better one. I like the idea of raised beds,not so much bending over

for this old back!

Diane

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Hi EW. i read an article about using raised beds with pallets. you only use the

edges and cut out the middle.. You can stack them on top of each other.. i

wasn't sure how many i would have to stack to make a deep enough raised bed, and

I can get them free but if they are treated with chemicals i wouldn't use

them... how deep do you have to make the raised bed... is 12 inches standard.

thanks debbie

From: Ernest Willingham <99tomatoes@ gardener .com>

Subject: Re: Re: I want to buy some Alfalfa

Seeds / mushrooms, fish

Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 10:00 PM

I've stopped buying lettuce a long time ago, but I have not stopped

growing it. I'm very fortunate to live in SoCal. In my garden today,

I

have four kinds of lettuce and baby spinach ready to harvest. I have

two

kinds of peas, spring onions, broccoli, cabbage, beets, carrots,

turnips

all up and happy and I'm looking forward to eating the healthy

produce.

After the last frost date, I will be planting a lot more. Oh, and I

should mention the my Jerusalm Artichokes are ready to harvest.

Re: Re: I want to buy some Alfalfa

Seeds / mushrooms, fish

Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 21:44:28 EST

In a message dated 12/18/2008 5:16:11 PM Central Standard Time,

eliz7212verizon (DOT) net writes:

> ...I have stopped buying lettuce and I use the alfalfa as a base

for my

> organic salad. I add some of my home-grown sprouts, some grape

tomatoes, some

> mushrooms, a splash of extra virgin olive oil, and perhaps a can of

tuna on the

> salad. That's my lunch. For dinner, I'll have a same stuff for a

salad and a

> piece of fish....

>

Weil says not to eat mushrooms raw, but I don't know if that

is

correct or not.

You mentioned both tuna and fish. Just be careful not to overdo fish

(tuna

especially) or you may end up with too much mercury in your system.

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You can make raised beds any hight you want. I saw a video of some

people in Africa that made them waist high. Mine are two cinder block

high, which is 12 inches.

ew

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Seeds / mushrooms, fish

Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 21:44:28 EST

In a message dated 12/18/2008 5:16:11 PM Central Standard Time,

eliz7212verizon (DOT) net writes:

> ...I have stopped buying lettuce and I use the alfalfa as a base

for my

> organic salad. I add some of my home-grown sprouts, some grape

tomatoes, some

> mushrooms, a splash of extra virgin olive oil, and perhaps a can of

tuna on the

> salad. That's my lunch. For dinner, I'll have a same stuff for a

salad and a

> piece of fish....

>

Weil says not to eat mushrooms raw, but I don't know if that

is

correct or not.

You mentioned both tuna and fish. Just be careful not to overdo fish

(tuna

especially) or you may end up with too much mercury in your system.

************ **

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Google 'Raised Bed Gardening' and see all of the info there,

ew

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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 21:44:28 EST

In a message dated 12/18/2008 5:16:11 PM Central Standard Time,

eliz7212verizon (DOT) net writes:

> ...I have stopped buying lettuce and I use the alfalfa as a base

for my

> organic salad. I add some of my home-grown sprouts, some grape

tomatoes, some

> mushrooms, a splash of extra virgin olive oil, and perhaps a can of

tuna on the

> salad. That's my lunch. For dinner, I'll have a same stuff for a

salad and a

> piece of fish....

>

Weil says not to eat mushrooms raw, but I don't know if that

is

correct or not.

You mentioned both tuna and fish. Just be careful not to overdo fish

(tuna

especially) or you may end up with too much mercury in your system.

************ **

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I had a feeling you knew about Mel. And here you actually now him. Great

book and I had a ball. I hope I can do it again. The snap peas were so

tasty, along with eggplant,etc.

Diane

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