Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 In a message dated 12/18/2008 5:16:11 PM Central Standard Time, eliz7212@... writes: > ...I have stopped buying lettuce and I use the alfalfa as a base for my > organic salad. I add some of my home-grown sprouts, some grape tomatoes, some > mushrooms, a splash of extra virgin olive oil, and perhaps a can of tuna on the > salad. That's my lunch. For dinner, I'll have a same stuff for a salad and a > piece of fish.... > Weil says not to eat mushrooms raw, but I don't know if that is correct or not. You mentioned both tuna and fish. Just be careful not to overdo fish (tuna especially) or you may end up with too much mercury in your system. ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://\ www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 I've stopped buying lettuce a long time ago, but I have not stopped growing it. I'm very fortunate to live in SoCal. In my garden today, I have four kinds of lettuce and baby spinach ready to harvest. I have two kinds of peas, spring onions, broccoli, cabbage, beets, carrots, turnips all up and happy and I'm looking forward to eating the healthy produce. After the last frost date, I will be planting a lot more. Oh, and I should mention the my Jerusalm Artichokes are ready to harvest. Re: Re: I want to buy some Alfalfa Seeds / mushrooms, fish Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 21:44:28 EST In a message dated 12/18/2008 5:16:11 PM Central Standard Time, eliz7212@... writes: > ...I have stopped buying lettuce and I use the alfalfa as a base for my > organic salad. I add some of my home-grown sprouts, some grape tomatoes, some > mushrooms, a splash of extra virgin olive oil, and perhaps a can of tuna on the > salad. That's my lunch. For dinner, I'll have a same stuff for a salad and a > piece of fish.... > Weil says not to eat mushrooms raw, but I don't know if that is correct or not. You mentioned both tuna and fish. Just be careful not to overdo fish (tuna especially) or you may end up with too much mercury in your system. ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://\ www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Ernest I live south of houston tx so I may have a similar growing season as you. I have never had a vegetable garden but I have grape fruit, orange, black berries , blue berries (berries feed the birds) and 4 pecan trees ( feeds the squirrels). These plants & trees almost take care of themselves. I am curiuos how large is your garden and how much time do you invest in it a week to get such a great harvest? I am a working engineer and a rock drummer so time is budgeted. What type of tiller would you recommend? Any web sites for the beginning gardener? I am preparing for hard times, fresh food is one of those essentials. Thanks tlh From: Ernest Willingham <99tomatoes@...> Subject: Re: Re: I want to buy some Alfalfa Seeds / mushrooms, fish Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 10:00 PM I've stopped buying lettuce a long time ago, but I have not stopped growing it. I'm very fortunate to live in SoCal. In my garden today, I have four kinds of lettuce and baby spinach ready to harvest. I have two kinds of peas, spring onions, broccoli, cabbage, beets, carrots, turnips all up and happy and I'm looking forward to eating the healthy produce. After the last frost date, I will be planting a lot more. Oh, and I should mention the my Jerusalm Artichokes are ready to harvest. Re: Re: I want to buy some Alfalfa Seeds / mushrooms, fish Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 21:44:28 EST In a message dated 12/18/2008 5:16:11 PM Central Standard Time, eliz7212verizon (DOT) net writes: > ...I have stopped buying lettuce and I use the alfalfa as a base for my > organic salad. I add some of my home-grown sprouts, some grape tomatoes, some > mushrooms, a splash of extra virgin olive oil, and perhaps a can of tuna on the > salad. That's my lunch. For dinner, I'll have a same stuff for a salad and a > piece of fish.... > Weil says not to eat mushrooms raw, but I don't know if that is correct or not. You mentioned both tuna and fish. Just be careful not to overdo fish (tuna especially) or you may end up with too much mercury in your system. ************ ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100000075x121585 5013x1201028747/ aol?redir= http://www. freecreditreport .com/pm/default. aspx?sc=668072% 26hmpgID= 62%26bcd= De cemailfooterNO62) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 I do not till the soil. Tilling ruins the tilth and destroys the friendly microorganisms and kills earthworms. I have raised beds. My yard is not large, but I grow in every available square inch. I have no lawn. I work a plan called edible estates (google). I have flowers. I have beautiful roses. My many fruit trees are dwarf. I grow a little bit of a lot of things, because I am just feeding me and the wife and a 90 year old neighbor lady. For instance, I have four different lettuces that I am harvesting right now, but each lettuce row is only four feet long. I pull off the outer leaves for my salad and the plant continues to grow. I won't have to plant lettuce again this year. I do the same thing with swiss chard. You can take some leaves from your beets and the beet will continue to grow and mature. Because of the raised beds and drip irrigation, I don't spend more than 10 hour a week in the garden. I am not able to do a lot of things and have a HS boy come in on Sat. and help me for four hours week. I agree, prepare for hard times. If they don't come, you haven't wasted your time, you still have good food to eat. ew Re: Re: I want to buy some Alfalfa Seeds / mushrooms, fish Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 21:44:28 EST In a message dated 12/18/2008 5:16:11 PM Central Standard Time, eliz7212verizon (DOT) net writes: > ...I have stopped buying lettuce and I use the alfalfa as a base for my > organic salad. I add some of my home-grown sprouts, some grape tomatoes, some > mushrooms, a splash of extra virgin olive oil, and perhaps a can of tuna on the > salad. That's my lunch. For dinner, I'll have a same stuff for a salad and a > piece of fish.... > Weil says not to eat mushrooms raw, but I don't know if that is correct or not. You mentioned both tuna and fish. Just be careful not to overdo fish (tuna especially) or you may end up with too much mercury in your system. ************ ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100000075x121585 5013x1201028747/ aol?redir= http://www. freecreditreport .com/pm/default. aspx?sc=668072% 26hmpgID= 62%26bcd= De cemailfooterNO62) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Hi Jeff, Thank goodness someone got the gist of what I was trying, rather clumsily I admit, to say. Button mushrooms worthless? I take you to task, sir! ANYTHING that tastes so good must make you feel good, that to me is one big personal worth. I'm also pretty sure that regularly eating mushrooms will lead to a prolonged feeling of enjoyment and pleasure. If so, it's self-obvious, at least to me, that that has JUST GOT TO BE GOOD FOR YOU! Feel good...Feel well....Be well! Like it! Doug. :-) This is really a message from Doug, only slightly tongue in cheek! Re: Re: I want to buy some AlfalfaSeeds / mushrooms, fishDate: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 21:44:28 ESTIn a message dated 12/18/2008 5:16:11 PM Central Standard Time,eliz7212verizon (DOT) net writes:> ...I have stopped buying lettuce and I use the alfalfa as a basefor my> organic salad. I add some of my home-grown sprouts, some grapetomatoes, some> mushrooms, a splash of extra virgin olive oil, and perhaps a can oftuna on the> salad. That's my lunch. For dinner, I'll have a same stuff for asalad and a> piece of fish....> Weil says not to eat mushrooms raw, but I don't know if thatiscorrect or not.You mentioned both tuna and fish. Just be careful not to overdo fish(tunaespecially) or you may end up with too much mercury in your system.************ **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easysteps!(http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100000075x121585 5013x1201028747/aol?redir= http://www. freecreditreport ..com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072% 26hmpgID= 62%26bcd= DecemailfooterNO62)[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] " Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit;wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad. " --Be Yourself @ mail.com!Choose From 200+ Email AddressesGet a Free Account at www.mail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 I'm afraid I don't understand the question. Raised bed gardens are boxes filled with soil. they can be made from many things. Mine are cinder block. They are several sizes to fit the area where I built them. I have two that are 3 1/2 feet wide and 12 foot long on the inside. I currently have 10 of various sizes and plans to build more. The advantage of raised beds is that you don't have to bend over so far to work them. You never walk on your growing soil, so that you don't compact it, and you can fill them with good soil if you yard has terrible soil as mine does. Mine are filled with equal parts of compost, perlite and peat. You can use vermiculite in place of perlite. With this mix in place you only have to add compost each time you harvest before you plant again.Raised beds are sort of like having giant containers in your yard. The only reason I can see for stacking pallets is to put pots on them. ew Re: Re: I want to buy some Alfalfa Seeds / mushrooms, fish Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 21:44:28 EST In a message dated 12/18/2008 5:16:11 PM Central Standard Time, eliz7212verizon (DOT) net writes: > ...I have stopped buying lettuce and I use the alfalfa as a base for my > organic salad. I add some of my home-grown sprouts, some grape tomatoes, some > mushrooms, a splash of extra virgin olive oil, and perhaps a can of tuna on the > salad. That's my lunch. For dinner, I'll have a same stuff for a salad and a > piece of fish.... > Weil says not to eat mushrooms raw, but I don't know if that is correct or not. You mentioned both tuna and fish. Just be careful not to overdo fish (tuna especially) or you may end up with too much mercury in your system. ************ ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100000075x121585 5013x1201028747/ aol?redir= http://www. freecreditreport .com/pm/default. aspx?sc=668072% 26hmpgID= 62%26bcd= De cemailfooterNO62) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Just a note about pallets. Some are treated with chemicals, although I don't know which ones. Might do some research on the internet before getting any. We don't use them for firewood when we camp for this reason. They have a really bad smell when they burn. EW has some great info about gardening in a small space and years ago, when I had room, I used the Square Foot Gardening Method by Barthalamew. Not the correct spelling. Had great crops, used little water. Initial set was a bear because it was in Arizona and the soil had to be replaced, but he guides you thru it. EW might know about this method or a better one. I like the idea of raised beds,not so much bending over for this old back! Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 As a matter of fact, I know Mel personally. You can probably get his book in your local library. Its called " Square Foot Gardening " . He did a PBS TV show a few years back and the videos are in the LA County Library, you might check yours. Also, google Square Foot Gardening and check out his web site. The soil being a 'bear' is the reason for the mix. He calls it Mel's mix: equal parts of vermiculite, peat and compost. That way you avoid your native soil problems. I use perlite instead of vermiculite. It costs less and does the same job. Mel has revised his book and it is currently in the book stores. ew Re: I want to buy some Alfalfa Seeds / mushrooms, fish Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:04:46 -0700 Just a note about pallets. Some are treated with chemicals, although I don't know which ones. Might do some research on the internet before getting any. We don't use them for firewood when we camp for this reason. They have a really bad smell when they burn. EW has some great info about gardening in a small space and years ago, when I had room, I used the Square Foot Gardening Method by Bartholomew. Not the correct spelling. Had great crops, used little water. Initial set was a bear because it was in Arizona and the soil had to be replaced, but he guides you thru it. EW might know about this method or a better one. I like the idea of raised beds,not so much bending over for this old back! Diane " Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad. " -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Thanks EW. I just ordered a copy of the book on amazon Used-Very Good for $2.23. Thanks for the insite from you before I bought a $1k tiller. Terry H. From: Ernest Willingham <99tomatoes@...> Subject: Re: Re: I want to buy some Alfalfa Seeds / mushrooms, fish Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 1:15 AM As a matter of fact, I know Mel personally. You can probably get his book in your local library. Its called " Square Foot Gardening " . He did a PBS TV show a few years back and the videos are in the LA County Library, you might check yours. Also, google Square Foot Gardening and check out his web site. The soil being a 'bear' is the reason for the mix. He calls it Mel's mix: equal parts of vermiculite, peat and compost. That way you avoid your native soil problems. I use perlite instead of vermiculite. It costs less and does the same job. Mel has revised his book and it is currently in the book stores. ew Re: I want to buy some Alfalfa Seeds / mushrooms, fish Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:04:46 -0700 Just a note about pallets. Some are treated with chemicals, although I don't know which ones. Might do some research on the internet before getting any. We don't use them for firewood when we camp for this reason. They have a really bad smell when they burn. EW has some great info about gardening in a small space and years ago, when I had room, I used the Square Foot Gardening Method by Bartholomew. Not the correct spelling. Had great crops, used little water. Initial set was a bear because it was in Arizona and the soil had to be replaced, but he guides you thru it. EW might know about this method or a better one. I like the idea of raised beds,not so much bending over for this old back! Diane " Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad. " -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 I didn't realize they were treated with chemicals, i will have to find out. thanks for the info...debbie From: Diane and <sunflowr@...> Subject: Re: I want to buy some Alfalfa Seeds / mushrooms, fish Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 6:04 AM Just a note about pallets. Some are treated with chemicals, although I don't know which ones. Might do some research on the internet before getting any. We don't use them for firewood when we camp for this reason. They have a really bad smell when they burn. EW has some great info about gardening in a small space and years ago, when I had room, I used the Square Foot Gardening Method by Barthalamew. Not the correct spelling. Had great crops, used little water. Initial set was a bear because it was in Arizona and the soil had to be replaced, but he guides you thru it. EW might know about this method or a better one. I like the idea of raised beds,not so much bending over for this old back! Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Hi EW. i read an article about using raised beds with pallets. you only use the edges and cut out the middle.. You can stack them on top of each other.. i wasn't sure how many i would have to stack to make a deep enough raised bed, and I can get them free but if they are treated with chemicals i wouldn't use them... how deep do you have to make the raised bed... is 12 inches standard. thanks debbie From: Ernest Willingham <99tomatoes@ gardener .com> Subject: Re: Re: I want to buy some Alfalfa Seeds / mushrooms, fish Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 10:00 PM I've stopped buying lettuce a long time ago, but I have not stopped growing it. I'm very fortunate to live in SoCal. In my garden today, I have four kinds of lettuce and baby spinach ready to harvest. I have two kinds of peas, spring onions, broccoli, cabbage, beets, carrots, turnips all up and happy and I'm looking forward to eating the healthy produce. After the last frost date, I will be planting a lot more. Oh, and I should mention the my Jerusalm Artichokes are ready to harvest. Re: Re: I want to buy some Alfalfa Seeds / mushrooms, fish Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 21:44:28 EST In a message dated 12/18/2008 5:16:11 PM Central Standard Time, eliz7212verizon (DOT) net writes: > ...I have stopped buying lettuce and I use the alfalfa as a base for my > organic salad. I add some of my home-grown sprouts, some grape tomatoes, some > mushrooms, a splash of extra virgin olive oil, and perhaps a can of tuna on the > salad. That's my lunch. For dinner, I'll have a same stuff for a salad and a > piece of fish.... > Weil says not to eat mushrooms raw, but I don't know if that is correct or not. You mentioned both tuna and fish. Just be careful not to overdo fish (tuna especially) or you may end up with too much mercury in your system. ************ ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100000075x121585 5013x1201028747/ aol?redir= http://www. freecreditreport .com/pm/default. aspx?sc=668072% 26hmpgID= 62%26bcd= De cemailfooterNO62) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 You can make raised beds any hight you want. I saw a video of some people in Africa that made them waist high. Mine are two cinder block high, which is 12 inches. ew Re: Re: I want to buy some Alfalfa Seeds / mushrooms, fish Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 21:44:28 EST In a message dated 12/18/2008 5:16:11 PM Central Standard Time, eliz7212verizon (DOT) net writes: > ...I have stopped buying lettuce and I use the alfalfa as a base for my > organic salad. I add some of my home-grown sprouts, some grape tomatoes, some > mushrooms, a splash of extra virgin olive oil, and perhaps a can of tuna on the > salad. That's my lunch. For dinner, I'll have a same stuff for a salad and a > piece of fish.... > Weil says not to eat mushrooms raw, but I don't know if that is correct or not. You mentioned both tuna and fish. Just be careful not to overdo fish (tuna especially) or you may end up with too much mercury in your system. ************ ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100000075x121585 5013x1201028747/ aol?redir= http://www. freecreditreport .com/pm/default. aspx?sc=668072% 26hmpgID= 62%26bcd= De cemailfooterNO62) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Google 'Raised Bed Gardening' and see all of the info there, ew Re: Re: I want to buy some Alfalfa Seeds / mushrooms, fish Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 21:44:28 EST In a message dated 12/18/2008 5:16:11 PM Central Standard Time, eliz7212verizon (DOT) net writes: > ...I have stopped buying lettuce and I use the alfalfa as a base for my > organic salad. I add some of my home-grown sprouts, some grape tomatoes, some > mushrooms, a splash of extra virgin olive oil, and perhaps a can of tuna on the > salad. That's my lunch. For dinner, I'll have a same stuff for a salad and a > piece of fish.... > Weil says not to eat mushrooms raw, but I don't know if that is correct or not. You mentioned both tuna and fish. Just be careful not to overdo fish (tuna especially) or you may end up with too much mercury in your system. ************ ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100000075x121585 5013x1201028747/ aol?redir= http://www. freecreditreport .com/pm/default. aspx?sc=668072% 26hmpgID= 62%26bcd= De cemailfooterNO62) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 I had a feeling you knew about Mel. And here you actually now him. Great book and I had a ball. I hope I can do it again. The snap peas were so tasty, along with eggplant,etc. Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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