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Wow,Anya,those are georgeous! If I wouldn't have

reminded myself that those were tinctures,I would have

thought I was looking at painted walls! The

deerstounge and the jasmine grandiflorum are totally

incredible. I totally want to start tincturing now! I

think the colors would be great to feature as part of

a perfume. I'm a total color nut,by the way. Love it.

Now,these are from the raw materials,no?

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Wow,Anya,those are georgeous! If I wouldn't have

reminded myself that those were tinctures,I would have

thought I was looking at painted walls! The

deerstounge and the jasmine grandiflorum are totally

incredible. I totally want to start tincturing now! I

think the colors would be great to feature as part of

a perfume. I'm a total color nut,by the way. Love it.

Now,these are from the raw materials,no?

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At 07:56 PM 10/9/2005, you wrote:

>Wow,Anya,those are georgeous! If I wouldn't have

>reminded myself that those were tinctures,I would have

>thought I was looking at painted walls! The

>deerstounge and the jasmine grandiflorum are totally

>incredible. I totally want to start tincturing now! I

>think the colors would be great to feature as part of

>a perfume. I'm a total color nut,by the way. Love it.

> Now,these are from the raw materials,no?

>

Hi

Isn't Mother Nature wild and wonderful? I find these colors inspirational,

giving an added dimension to my meditations on where to take a blend.

Yes, these are all from raw materials. I had orris root powder I found in a

drawer -- probably 15 years old. It's been tincturing 2 years. I got

ambrette seed from a source that has dried up, trying to find a new one. I

got the tonka bean and liathris - deerstongue from pennherb.com. Buy the

powdered.The flowers all were fresh from my garden. I have lots of other

tinctures, but those were the ones I grabbed for the quick pics.

The deerstongue looks almost black when you look at the jar. Hold it up to

a light, and it is dark emerald green. I put it in the window for the pic,

and since the screen showed up, " smeared " it with a software tool, but that

is the real color!

How wild is it the M. alba flower turns that gorgeous color? I remember

years ago I boiled a bunch of rose geranium leaves for a bath, and the

water turned a Chinese red, pale, but soooo beautiful. That was the first

time I witnessed such a color surprise.

Anya

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At 07:56 PM 10/9/2005, you wrote:

>Wow,Anya,those are georgeous! If I wouldn't have

>reminded myself that those were tinctures,I would have

>thought I was looking at painted walls! The

>deerstounge and the jasmine grandiflorum are totally

>incredible. I totally want to start tincturing now! I

>think the colors would be great to feature as part of

>a perfume. I'm a total color nut,by the way. Love it.

> Now,these are from the raw materials,no?

>

Hi

Isn't Mother Nature wild and wonderful? I find these colors inspirational,

giving an added dimension to my meditations on where to take a blend.

Yes, these are all from raw materials. I had orris root powder I found in a

drawer -- probably 15 years old. It's been tincturing 2 years. I got

ambrette seed from a source that has dried up, trying to find a new one. I

got the tonka bean and liathris - deerstongue from pennherb.com. Buy the

powdered.The flowers all were fresh from my garden. I have lots of other

tinctures, but those were the ones I grabbed for the quick pics.

The deerstongue looks almost black when you look at the jar. Hold it up to

a light, and it is dark emerald green. I put it in the window for the pic,

and since the screen showed up, " smeared " it with a software tool, but that

is the real color!

How wild is it the M. alba flower turns that gorgeous color? I remember

years ago I boiled a bunch of rose geranium leaves for a bath, and the

water turned a Chinese red, pale, but soooo beautiful. That was the first

time I witnessed such a color surprise.

Anya

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<LIsn't Mother Nature wild and wonderful?>

And how!

<How wild is it the M. alba flower turns that gorgeous color?>

I know,what a beautiful shade of amber/orange. Kind of reminds me of my living

room walls!

Mostly when I boil plant items,the color of the resulting liquid is usually

amber/brown. Pretty,but pretty common. Except for red cabbage(although it looks

purple to me)-you can get georgeous shades from turquoise through many shades of

blue and indigo,to blue-violet. If you add vinegar,it turns a brilliant magenta.

ous. I would love to add those as dyes to some natural product,but the

smell. Stinky!

Blueberries have the same shade range,but it fades quickly to a grey,sometimes a

black,especially in smoothies. Kind of creepy. Good for Halloween,no?

Of course there is the lovely forest green of wheatgrass/chloryphyll.

I've heard that lavender absolute is turquoise. Is that true?

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<LIsn't Mother Nature wild and wonderful?>

And how!

<How wild is it the M. alba flower turns that gorgeous color?>

I know,what a beautiful shade of amber/orange. Kind of reminds me of my living

room walls!

Mostly when I boil plant items,the color of the resulting liquid is usually

amber/brown. Pretty,but pretty common. Except for red cabbage(although it looks

purple to me)-you can get georgeous shades from turquoise through many shades of

blue and indigo,to blue-violet. If you add vinegar,it turns a brilliant magenta.

ous. I would love to add those as dyes to some natural product,but the

smell. Stinky!

Blueberries have the same shade range,but it fades quickly to a grey,sometimes a

black,especially in smoothies. Kind of creepy. Good for Halloween,no?

Of course there is the lovely forest green of wheatgrass/chloryphyll.

I've heard that lavender absolute is turquoise. Is that true?

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--- Anya <mccoy@...> wrote:

> At 07:56 PM 10/9/2005, you wrote:

>

> >Wow,Anya,those are georgeous! If I wouldn't have

> >reminded myself that those were tinctures,I would

> have

> >thought I was looking at painted walls! The

> >deerstounge and the jasmine grandiflorum are

> totally

> >incredible. I totally want to start tincturing now!

> I

> >think the colors would be great to feature as part

> of

> >a perfume. I'm a total color nut,by the way. Love

> it.

> > Now,these are from the raw materials,no?

> >

>

> Hi

> Isn't Mother Nature wild and wonderful? I find these

> colors inspirational,

> giving an added dimension to my meditations on where

> to take a blend.

>

> Yes, these are all from raw materials. I had orris

> root powder I found in a

> drawer -- probably 15 years old. It's been

> tincturing 2 years. I got

> ambrette seed from a source that has dried up,

> trying to find a new one. I

http://www.somaluna.com/product.asp?p=134 & m=48

Musk Seeds (Ambrette Seed)

(hibiscus moschatus)

Other names: Ambrette, Musk Mallow

Uses: The Male, Lust, Virility, Strength, Prowess,

Pursuit

Associations: Mars, Fire

Aroma: Pleasant when burned and produce a musky, fiery

aroma.

Musk Seeds are often used in flavoring and perfumery.

They are a wonderful replacement for traditional musk,

because they have a very similar aroma.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

HRB012 Musk Seeds (Ambrette Seed) (One Ounce)

Our Price:  $4.65

0.5 lb or more:  $4.20  ($33.60)

1.0 lb or more:  $3.70  ($59.20)

Happy Birthday

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--- Anya <mccoy@...> wrote:

> At 07:56 PM 10/9/2005, you wrote:

>

> >Wow,Anya,those are georgeous! If I wouldn't have

> >reminded myself that those were tinctures,I would

> have

> >thought I was looking at painted walls! The

> >deerstounge and the jasmine grandiflorum are

> totally

> >incredible. I totally want to start tincturing now!

> I

> >think the colors would be great to feature as part

> of

> >a perfume. I'm a total color nut,by the way. Love

> it.

> > Now,these are from the raw materials,no?

> >

>

> Hi

> Isn't Mother Nature wild and wonderful? I find these

> colors inspirational,

> giving an added dimension to my meditations on where

> to take a blend.

>

> Yes, these are all from raw materials. I had orris

> root powder I found in a

> drawer -- probably 15 years old. It's been

> tincturing 2 years. I got

> ambrette seed from a source that has dried up,

> trying to find a new one. I

http://www.somaluna.com/product.asp?p=134 & m=48

Musk Seeds (Ambrette Seed)

(hibiscus moschatus)

Other names: Ambrette, Musk Mallow

Uses: The Male, Lust, Virility, Strength, Prowess,

Pursuit

Associations: Mars, Fire

Aroma: Pleasant when burned and produce a musky, fiery

aroma.

Musk Seeds are often used in flavoring and perfumery.

They are a wonderful replacement for traditional musk,

because they have a very similar aroma.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

HRB012 Musk Seeds (Ambrette Seed) (One Ounce)

Our Price:  $4.65

0.5 lb or more:  $4.20  ($33.60)

1.0 lb or more:  $3.70  ($59.20)

Happy Birthday

BB

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Anya,

Your tinctures look truly beautiful!

You are so blessed that you have such a tropical garden at your hand

reach...

I will have to try making my own deertongue and tonka tinctures as you

suggested...

Maybe even try to tincture my Star Jasmine as well.

Have you ever worked with star jasmine?

It seems to have a light and etheral white floral note - which is very

popular in the industry these days...

I don't believe there is absolute out there as I doubt that it is

grown commercially.

I want to hear a bit more about Pikake. I only smelled it in super

synthetic FO's and it was very fruity, so I always thought it was some

kind of fruit. Jasmine Sambac is very fruity though!

Have you ever thought of selling you tinctures? ;)

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Anya,

Your tinctures look truly beautiful!

You are so blessed that you have such a tropical garden at your hand

reach...

I will have to try making my own deertongue and tonka tinctures as you

suggested...

Maybe even try to tincture my Star Jasmine as well.

Have you ever worked with star jasmine?

It seems to have a light and etheral white floral note - which is very

popular in the industry these days...

I don't believe there is absolute out there as I doubt that it is

grown commercially.

I want to hear a bit more about Pikake. I only smelled it in super

synthetic FO's and it was very fruity, so I always thought it was some

kind of fruit. Jasmine Sambac is very fruity though!

Have you ever thought of selling you tinctures? ;)

Ayala Sender

Perfume Designer

Quinta Essentia Signature Perfumes Inc.

http://www.Quinta-Essentia.ca E-mail: Ayala@...

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> I've that lavender absolute is turquoise. Is that true?

>

>

Yes, but not always. The one I have now is almost clear. The one that

I had that qas turquoise has an amazing colour!

This is an absolute I really recommend having. It adds a different

dimension to lavender (more velvety and sweet but also slightly more

medicinal).

The lavender concrete is also really important to have - it's like

ground leaves and honey - dark green, waxy like all concretes, and

with deep aroma of foresty green, honeyed herbs, and goes wonderfully

well with oakmoss to create a classic fougere accord.

Ayala Sender

Perfume Designer

Quinta Essentia Signature Perfumes Inc.

http://www.Quinta-Essentia.ca E-mail: Ayala@...

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> I've that lavender absolute is turquoise. Is that true?

>

>

Yes, but not always. The one I have now is almost clear. The one that

I had that qas turquoise has an amazing colour!

This is an absolute I really recommend having. It adds a different

dimension to lavender (more velvety and sweet but also slightly more

medicinal).

The lavender concrete is also really important to have - it's like

ground leaves and honey - dark green, waxy like all concretes, and

with deep aroma of foresty green, honeyed herbs, and goes wonderfully

well with oakmoss to create a classic fougere accord.

Ayala Sender

Perfume Designer

Quinta Essentia Signature Perfumes Inc.

http://www.Quinta-Essentia.ca E-mail: Ayala@...

Signature Perfumes ~ Perfumed Jewelery ~ Fragrance Consultant On-Line

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{edited topposting)

Anya-how beautiful! I am in the process of choosing a wall paint color, these

images are

very inspiring!

Do you always tincture in alcohol? I am interested in starting to infuse some

materials,

however I have been making perfumes in fractionated coconut oil, so I suppose I

should

infuse aromatic items in fractionated coconut oil? Will aromatics yeild their

scent as well

to fractionated coconut oil? I do not have a garden, do you sometimes tincture

dried

materials?

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{edited topposting)

Anya-how beautiful! I am in the process of choosing a wall paint color, these

images are

very inspiring!

Do you always tincture in alcohol? I am interested in starting to infuse some

materials,

however I have been making perfumes in fractionated coconut oil, so I suppose I

should

infuse aromatic items in fractionated coconut oil? Will aromatics yeild their

scent as well

to fractionated coconut oil? I do not have a garden, do you sometimes tincture

dried

materials?

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> Do you always tincture in alcohol? I am interested in starting to

infuse some materials,

> however I have been making perfumes in fractionated coconut oil, so

I suppose I should

> infuse aromatic items in fractionated coconut oil? Will aromatics

yeild their scent as well

> to fractionated coconut oil? I do not have a garden, do you

sometimes tincture dried

> materials?

>

>

I am not as experienced as the Infusion Queens of this board, but have

done some ticturing before - with both alcohol and jojoba oil.

The plants may yield their scents faster to alcohols, and also it is

easier to filter the alcohol from any residues. But it is definitley

possible to infuse both fresh and dry plants into oils. Vanilla bean

is an easier one to infuse (and also discard once it gave away its

fragrance) from the oil.

Also fresh flowers like jasmine and gardenia and all the ones that do

well with enflourage will do well in oil.

Anya for usre have wonderous stories to tell about her tropical flower

infusions into virgin coconut oil (which smells like fresh coconut and

is simply divine on its own and also tastes great!)

She is so passionate about infusing those rarities that I may just get

over my earlier infusion frustrations (I tried, 5 years ago, to infuse

hyacinth and lilac into - can you believe this? - rubbing alcohol!).

I think this may expalain my tincturing traumas. I also have infused

dragon's blood into jojoba oil which turned very red, and at one point

panicked when my little toddler daughter spilled it, thinking that she

swalloed it AND got it in her eyes - none of which was true, thanks god.

I only wish I had a garden with enough interesting things to infuse. I

got gardenias and star jasmine planted this summer, but I didn't think

I have anough for making an infusion. I will do this next year...

Ayala Sender

Perfume Designer

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http://www.Quinta-Essentia.ca E-mail: Ayala@...

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> Do you always tincture in alcohol? I am interested in starting to

infuse some materials,

> however I have been making perfumes in fractionated coconut oil, so

I suppose I should

> infuse aromatic items in fractionated coconut oil? Will aromatics

yeild their scent as well

> to fractionated coconut oil? I do not have a garden, do you

sometimes tincture dried

> materials?

>

>

I am not as experienced as the Infusion Queens of this board, but have

done some ticturing before - with both alcohol and jojoba oil.

The plants may yield their scents faster to alcohols, and also it is

easier to filter the alcohol from any residues. But it is definitley

possible to infuse both fresh and dry plants into oils. Vanilla bean

is an easier one to infuse (and also discard once it gave away its

fragrance) from the oil.

Also fresh flowers like jasmine and gardenia and all the ones that do

well with enflourage will do well in oil.

Anya for usre have wonderous stories to tell about her tropical flower

infusions into virgin coconut oil (which smells like fresh coconut and

is simply divine on its own and also tastes great!)

She is so passionate about infusing those rarities that I may just get

over my earlier infusion frustrations (I tried, 5 years ago, to infuse

hyacinth and lilac into - can you believe this? - rubbing alcohol!).

I think this may expalain my tincturing traumas. I also have infused

dragon's blood into jojoba oil which turned very red, and at one point

panicked when my little toddler daughter spilled it, thinking that she

swalloed it AND got it in her eyes - none of which was true, thanks god.

I only wish I had a garden with enough interesting things to infuse. I

got gardenias and star jasmine planted this summer, but I didn't think

I have anough for making an infusion. I will do this next year...

Ayala Sender

Perfume Designer

Quinta Essentia Signature Perfumes Inc.

http://www.Quinta-Essentia.ca E-mail: Ayala@...

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>

> Ayala started all this....she asked me what the color of my ambrette seed

> tincture was. I realized how gorgeous and alchemical the essences reveal

> themselves when tinctured, and decided to make it a part of my new site. I

> took pics this afternoon of seven different tinctures I have macerating.

Anya, love the visual and educational addition to your site. Ayala is a muse!

You mention macerating and I was wondering if you put the items into your jars

whole as

plucked or if you bruise them at all first. (as I do to herbs in cooking) I

guess you would lose

some of the essence to the knife, or your fingers (tearing) if you did? Didn't

you plop a whole

mango into alcohol once? What I want is a photo of your Mad Scientist Lab. ;-)

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At 01:35 PM 10/10/2005, you wrote:

>{edited topposting)

>Anya-how beautiful! I am in the process of choosing a wall paint color,

>these images are

>very inspiring!

>

>Do you always tincture in alcohol? I am interested in starting to infuse

>some materials,

>however I have been making perfumes in fractionated coconut oil, so I

>suppose I should

>infuse aromatic items in fractionated coconut oil? Will aromatics yeild

>their scent as well

>to fractionated coconut oil? I do not have a garden, do you sometimes

>tincture dried

>materials?

Hi :

Tincturing means in alcohol. Infusing means in oil. There's a nice File I

created that outlines the processes. Aromatics will release their scent to

alcohol and oil. I often tincture dried materials, like tonka beans, etc.

Anya

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At 01:35 PM 10/10/2005, you wrote:

>{edited topposting)

>Anya-how beautiful! I am in the process of choosing a wall paint color,

>these images are

>very inspiring!

>

>Do you always tincture in alcohol? I am interested in starting to infuse

>some materials,

>however I have been making perfumes in fractionated coconut oil, so I

>suppose I should

>infuse aromatic items in fractionated coconut oil? Will aromatics yeild

>their scent as well

>to fractionated coconut oil? I do not have a garden, do you sometimes

>tincture dried

>materials?

Hi :

Tincturing means in alcohol. Infusing means in oil. There's a nice File I

created that outlines the processes. Aromatics will release their scent to

alcohol and oil. I often tincture dried materials, like tonka beans, etc.

Anya

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At 11:37 PM 10/9/2005, you wrote:

>--- Anya <mccoy@...> wrote:

> > tincturing 2 years. I got

> > ambrette seed from a source that has dried up,

> > trying to find a new one. I

>

>http://www.somaluna.com/product.asp?p=134 & m=48

>Musk Seeds (Ambrette Seed)

>(hibiscus moschatus)

>Other names: Ambrette, Musk Mallow

>Uses: The Male, Lust, Virility, Strength, Prowess,

>Pursuit

>Associations: Mars, Fire

>Aroma: Pleasant when burned and produce a musky, fiery

>aroma.

>Musk Seeds are often used in flavoring and perfumery.

>They are a wonderful replacement for traditional musk,

>because they have a very similar aroma.

>------------------------------------------------------------------------

>HRB012 Musk Seeds (Ambrette Seed) (One Ounce)

>

>

>Our Price: $4.65

>0.5 lb or more: $4.20 ($33.60)

>1.0 lb or more: $3.70 ($59.20)

Thanks for that link, BB! More than twice what I paid two years ago, but

there really does seem to be a worldwide shortage. Or something. I'm going

to see if they offer them ground. I've never tried to grind them, don't

know how hard they are. Suppose I will, if I have to, of course.Thanks

again. I'll bet this company gets bewildered by the run on ambrette seeds ;-)

Anya

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At 11:37 PM 10/9/2005, you wrote:

>--- Anya <mccoy@...> wrote:

> > tincturing 2 years. I got

> > ambrette seed from a source that has dried up,

> > trying to find a new one. I

>

>http://www.somaluna.com/product.asp?p=134 & m=48

>Musk Seeds (Ambrette Seed)

>(hibiscus moschatus)

>Other names: Ambrette, Musk Mallow

>Uses: The Male, Lust, Virility, Strength, Prowess,

>Pursuit

>Associations: Mars, Fire

>Aroma: Pleasant when burned and produce a musky, fiery

>aroma.

>Musk Seeds are often used in flavoring and perfumery.

>They are a wonderful replacement for traditional musk,

>because they have a very similar aroma.

>------------------------------------------------------------------------

>HRB012 Musk Seeds (Ambrette Seed) (One Ounce)

>

>

>Our Price: $4.65

>0.5 lb or more: $4.20 ($33.60)

>1.0 lb or more: $3.70 ($59.20)

Thanks for that link, BB! More than twice what I paid two years ago, but

there really does seem to be a worldwide shortage. Or something. I'm going

to see if they offer them ground. I've never tried to grind them, don't

know how hard they are. Suppose I will, if I have to, of course.Thanks

again. I'll bet this company gets bewildered by the run on ambrette seeds ;-)

Anya

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--- Anya <mccoy@...> wrote:

> At 11:37 PM 10/9/2005, you wrote:

> >--- Anya <mccoy@...> wrote:

> > > tincturing 2 years. I got

> > > ambrette seed from a source that has dried up,

> > > trying to find a new one. I

> >

> >http://www.somaluna.com/product.asp?p=134 & m=48

> >Musk Seeds (Ambrette Seed)

> >(hibiscus moschatus)

> >Other names: Ambrette, Musk Mallow

> >Musk Seeds are often used in flavoring and

> perfumery.

> >HRB012 Musk Seeds (Ambrette Seed) (One Ounce)

> >Our Price: $4.65

> >0.5 lb or more: $4.20 ($33.60)

> >1.0 lb or more: $3.70 ($59.20)

>

> Thanks for that link, BB! More than twice what I

> paid two years ago, but

> there really does seem to be a worldwide shortage.

> Or something. I'm going

> to see if they offer them ground. I've never tried

> to grind them, don't

> know how hard they are. Suppose I will, if I have

> to, of course.Thanks

> again. I'll bet this company gets bewildered by the

> run on ambrette seeds ;-)

Anya

In my search, many links came up for importers from

India and sellers of seeds. I imagine you would have

to buy a lot from them at wholesale prices hence a

group or cooperative buy. Also I will ask our local

Indian lady who is trying to import EO from India.

You could try asking your local Indian store seller to

bring these in for you.

B

>

>

> Anya

> http://.com

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> of Natural Perfume

> " The Age of the Foodie is passé. It is now the Age

> of the Scentie. "

>

>

>

>

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--- Anya <mccoy@...> wrote:

> At 11:37 PM 10/9/2005, you wrote:

> >--- Anya <mccoy@...> wrote:

> > > tincturing 2 years. I got

> > > ambrette seed from a source that has dried up,

> > > trying to find a new one. I

> >

> >http://www.somaluna.com/product.asp?p=134 & m=48

> >Musk Seeds (Ambrette Seed)

> >(hibiscus moschatus)

> >Other names: Ambrette, Musk Mallow

> >Musk Seeds are often used in flavoring and

> perfumery.

> >HRB012 Musk Seeds (Ambrette Seed) (One Ounce)

> >Our Price: $4.65

> >0.5 lb or more: $4.20 ($33.60)

> >1.0 lb or more: $3.70 ($59.20)

>

> Thanks for that link, BB! More than twice what I

> paid two years ago, but

> there really does seem to be a worldwide shortage.

> Or something. I'm going

> to see if they offer them ground. I've never tried

> to grind them, don't

> know how hard they are. Suppose I will, if I have

> to, of course.Thanks

> again. I'll bet this company gets bewildered by the

> run on ambrette seeds ;-)

Anya

In my search, many links came up for importers from

India and sellers of seeds. I imagine you would have

to buy a lot from them at wholesale prices hence a

group or cooperative buy. Also I will ask our local

Indian lady who is trying to import EO from India.

You could try asking your local Indian store seller to

bring these in for you.

B

>

>

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At 03:46 PM 10/10/2005, you wrote:

> >

> > Ayala started all this....she asked me what the color of my ambrette seed

> > tincture was. I realized how gorgeous and alchemical the essences reveal

> > themselves when tinctured, and decided to make it a part of my new site. I

> > took pics this afternoon of seven different tinctures I have macerating.

>

>Anya, love the visual and educational addition to your site. Ayala is a muse!

Yep, she (a)muses me a lot ;-) Would love to party with her, lol. You, too,

if you could drag yourself out of your cave!

>You mention macerating and I was wondering if you put the items into your

>jars whole as

>plucked or if you bruise them at all first. (as I do to herbs in cooking)

>I guess you would lose

>some of the essence to the knife, or your fingers (tearing) if you did?

>Didn't you plop a whole

>mango into alcohol once? What I want is a photo of your Mad Scientist Lab. ;-)

I usually crush the dried stuff to release the aromatics from the cell

wall. Much of what I tincture is dried first, like the tonka beans,

ambrette seed, etc. Powdered, even. I don't powder cut, sifted herbs, like

the deerstongue, just use them straight of of the bag. Places like pennherb

give you the option of getting herbs whole, cut/sifted, or powdered. The

hard stuff, like beans and seeds, buy them powdered. The herbs buy c/s. I

see no reason to buy whole, unless you suspect the herbs have been laying

around for some time, and might be a bit stale. That is not the problem

with pennherb and the big companies -- they have fast turnover of stock.

I slit, scoop and then chop vanilla beans. I dry my own patchouli leaves

and then macerate them -- otherwise they're too wet and fleshy and the

water will mix -- not good, not cost effective.

You may remember a post long ago when i warned about chopping or putting

fresh green herbs in a blender to macerate, because that releases too much

chlorphyll, turning it all green and overwhelming the fragrance. I put

fresh mango and peaches and cucumbers in the blender with the alcohol for

their tinctures.

When I put my fresh flowers, like dracena, jasmines, cestrum, vietnamese or

tahitian gardenias, tuberoses, fragipanis, etc., in maceration, they go in

whole, unbruised, as quickly as possible after harvest.

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At 10:28 AM 10/11/2005, you wrote:

> > >http://www.somaluna.com/product.asp?p=134 & m=48

> > >Musk Seeds (Ambrette Seed)

> > >(hibiscus moschatus)

> > >Other names: Ambrette, Musk Mallow

> > >Musk Seeds are often used in flavoring and

> > perfumery.

> > >HRB012 Musk Seeds (Ambrette Seed) (One Ounce)

> > >Our Price: $4.65

> > >0.5 lb or more: $4.20 ($33.60)

> > >1.0 lb or more: $3.70 ($59.20)

> >

> > Thanks for that link, BB! More than twice what I

> > paid two years ago, but

> > there really does seem to be a worldwide shortage.

> > Or something.

>Anya

>

>In my search, many links came up for importers from

>India and sellers of seeds. I imagine you would have

>to buy a lot from them at wholesale prices hence a

>group or cooperative buy. Also I will ask our local

>Indian lady who is trying to import EO from India.

>You could try asking your local Indian store seller to

>bring these in for you.

I know about the Indian sources --- I've been searching for over a year. I

probably just should have done a co-op or something, since the minimums are

high. I did order from somaluna today, gotta replenish my stock quickly. I

will check with the local store. I'm sampling some ambrette EO and abs

soon, too. I have a little stash of abs, attar, and a lot of tincture. I

can't find my infusion! I remember making some, just a little, and I

misplaced it recently when I aded yet another cabinet. I hate it when just

one little thing is missing!

>

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