Guest guest Posted October 19, 2001 Report Share Posted October 19, 2001 Dear all, My daughter (4yrs) for no apparent reason will start crying uncontrollably and this can last for hours (literally) with brief ten minute breaks........I have tried to use the ABC method ie is there an antecedent for the behaviour, consequences of the behaviour etc but I have come up with nil all the time. Plus she has asthma and she will start to wheeze etc so my question is should I ignore this behaviour or console her either physically or putting on her favourite video. I do not want her to associate crying with getting all this good things but she has a long tolerance period ie if ignored she can go on and on and at three in the morning it can be so distressing.....My husband will get up and rock her to sleep on his shoulder and she will quieten down and eventually fall asleep but I do not wnat to encourage this as when he is unable to do this that means mommy will have to rock her to sleep at odd hours in the morning plus I must add she is a big 4 year old!!!! Any tips anyone will be most appreciated... Regards Shireen Bidari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2001 Report Share Posted October 19, 2001 Shireen, If your functional analysis of the behavior did not seem to provide you with any patterns (by the way, how long did you keep the data for?) you may want to consider having a full medical examination completed. If we are unable to identify external factors or more obvious physiological states (e.g. hunger, thirst, cold, hot), the trigger may indeed be that there is something else bothering your daughter. Good luck! Debi Fw: Prolonged crying Dear all, My daughter (4yrs) for no apparent reason will start crying uncontrollably and this can last for hours (literally) with brief ten minute breaks........I have tried to use the ABC method ie is there an antecedent for the behaviour, consequences of the behaviour etc but I have come up with nil all the time. Plus she has asthma and she will start to wheeze etc so my question is should I ignore this behaviour or console her either physically or putting on her favourite video. I do not want her to associate crying with getting all this good things but she has a long tolerance period ie if ignored she can go on and on and at three in the morning it can be so distressing.....My husband will get up and rock her to sleep on his shoulder and she will quieten down and eventually fall asleep but I do not wnat to encourage this as when he is unable to do this that means mommy will have to rock her to sleep at odd hours in the morning plus I must add she is a big 4 year old!!!! Any tips anyone will be most appreciated... Regards Shireen Bidari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2001 Report Share Posted October 19, 2001 Some questions to think about regarding your ABC data: When did the crying episodes start? Days, weeks, or months ago? Has the duration/intensity changed over this time? Longer, louder, with tears? Time of onset each day? Start time varies, or is usually mornings, afternoons, or evenings? What stops the crying? Only 1 consequence, or various other approaches? Under what conditions does she not cry? During meals, playing with a toy, receiving attention? Does the crying occur everyday? or is there days between episodes? Biological/medical variables to consider (depending on her communication level): Headaches, toothaches, digestion (has her diet changed?, tested for lactose intolerance?, etc.), when was her last physical?, consitpation? think about and try to eliminate any potential physiological variables that may be responsible for the crying?, sleep cycles changed?, etc. Just some questions to help isolate and identify conditions with and without the behaviour. Send your responses and we can help you look for answers. Gerald Bernicky, DirectorBehaviour Solutions and More!6 Dunstall CrescentToronto, ON, Canada, M1E 3M2 Phone/Fax: 416-286-2273Email: gbernicky@... Fw: Prolonged crying Dear all, My daughter (4yrs) for no apparent reason will start crying uncontrollably and this can last for hours (literally) with brief ten minute breaks........I have tried to use the ABC method ie is there an antecedent for the behaviour, consequences of the behaviour etc but I have come up with nil all the time. Plus she has asthma and she will start to wheeze etc so my question is should I ignore this behaviour or console her either physically or putting on her favourite video. I do not want her to associate crying with getting all this good things but she has a long tolerance period ie if ignored she can go on and on and at three in the morning it can be so distressing.....My husband will get up and rock her to sleep on his shoulder and she will quieten down and eventually fall asleep but I do not wnat to encourage this as when he is unable to do this that means mommy will have to rock her to sleep at odd hours in the morning plus I must add she is a big 4 year old!!!! Any tips anyone will be most appreciated... Regards Shireen Bidari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2001 Report Share Posted October 19, 2001 Have you had her checked out medically for digestive problems ie food allergies/intolerance, reflux, yeast etc? Does it happen within an hour or two of eating? If not medical, start keeping a record of when she cries, the day, time, what happened/what was she doing right before and also what she ate that day just in case it's an undiscovered food allergy. Even if it appears to you that there's no antecedent, once you start recording you may notice some kind of pattern. In a message dated 10/18/2001 10:24:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sbidari@... writes: My daughter (4yrs) for no apparent reason will start crying uncontrollably and this can last for hours (literally) with brief ten minute breaks........I have tried to use the ABC method ie is there an antecedent for the behaviour, consequences of the behaviour etc but I have come up with nil all the time. Plus she has asthma and she will start to wheeze etc so my question is should I ignore this behaviour or console her either physically or putting on her favourite video. I do not want her to associate crying with getting all this good things but she has a long tolerance period ie if ignored she can go on and on and at three in the morning it can be so distressing.....My husband will get up and rock her to sleep on his shoulder and she will quieten down and eventually fall asleep but I do not wnat to encourage this as when he is unable to do this that means mommy will have to rock her to sleep at odd hours in the morning plus I must add she is a big 4 year old!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2001 Report Share Posted October 23, 2001 In a message dated 10/23/01 1:00:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, alexande@... writes: << Our daughter started doing this, too. We figured out that it was anxiety, and were forced to give her medication for it. Missy in MD >> General anxiety, or anxiety related to certain events or conditions? Has the medication helped? Also, before you got to the point using medication, what strategies failed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2001 Report Share Posted October 23, 2001 Our daughter started doing this, too. We figured out that it was anxiety, and were forced to give her medication for it. Missy in MD P.S. Shelby didn't start this until she was 7 y.o. and in 2nd grade. Don't you love school?!?! -----Original Message-----From: shireen bidari [mailto:sbidari@...]Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:20 PMautism Subject: Fw: Prolonged crying Dear all, My daughter (4yrs) for no apparent reason will start crying uncontrollably and this can last for hours (literally) with brief ten minute breaks........I have tried to use the ABC method ie is there an antecedent for the behaviour, consequences of the behaviour etc but I have come up with nil all the time. Plus she has asthma and she will start to wheeze etc so my question is should I ignore this behaviour or console her either physically or putting on her favourite video. I do not want her to associate crying with getting all this good things but she has a long tolerance period ie if ignored she can go on and on and at three in the morning it can be so distressing.....My husband will get up and rock her to sleep on his shoulder and she will quieten down and eventually fall asleep but I do not wnat to encourage this as when he is unable to do this that means mommy will have to rock her to sleep at odd hours in the morning plus I must add she is a big 4 year old!!!! Any tips anyone will be most appreciated... Regards Shireen Bidari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2001 Report Share Posted October 23, 2001 It was anxiety that was related to being away from home. It used to be just being away from me, but I was with her most of the time when she'd start crying when we were away from home. She'd cry most of the day during school, and I couldn't go in a store for 5 minutes before she'd start crying. She cried ALL THE TIME. Even places she liked and was familiar with. Yes, the medication has helped a great deal. No more crying. Strategies we used were picture schedules, talking about it beforehand, counting our stops, letting her see on her watch what time we would leave, telling her what she'd be getting at the stores, etc. NOTHING worked. Nothing at home, and nothing at school. So, I stopped going anywhere with her. We couldn't cut out school, though. So, we started with Buspar, and it's helped tremendously. Now all of the strategies work very, very well. Missy in Md. P.S. I will say, though, that our doc told us that when there's unexpected, nontypical behavior there's probably something biological going on. We experience anger, intolerance and inflexibility when this occurs. A friend of mine, whose son has Asperger's, says her son goes through noncompliance and meltdowns when he's got some sort of germ thing happening (ear infection, etc.). -----Original Message-----From: spedautism@... [mailto:spedautism@...]Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:46 PMautism Subject: Re: Fw: Prolonged cryingIn a message dated 10/23/01 1:00:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, alexande@... writes:<< Our daughter started doing this, too. We figured out that it was anxiety,and were forced to give her medication for it.Missy in MD >>General anxiety, or anxiety related to certain events or conditions? Has the medication helped? Also, before you got to the point using medication, what strategies failed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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