Guest guest Posted December 19, 1999 Report Share Posted December 19, 1999 GHB Kit/Ingredient Suppliers Kit suppliers used to abound on the internet. However, due to the over zealous actions of the DEA , FDA and other "law enforcement" agencies, all the kit makers in the U.S. have shut down. There still are a couple of kit makers in Canada and Europe. There are still sources of both GBL and NaOH in the US. Recommended Suppliers Pelchat Labs, has a very long standing reputation of honesty and reliability. Pelchat Labs claims to use food-grade NaOH and BASF electronic grade GBL. In all the posts I've read, there never has been anyone complaining about the quality of their kits. Unfortunately Pelchat stopped shipping kits to the U.S., but if you live outside the U.S. you can't go wrong with Pelchat Labs. If you live in the US and want the ease of a kit at a fraction of the cost of kits, I've found a great 2 source approach: AE Tech sells GBL in 120 ml bottles as well as larger sizes (up to 5 gallons). 120 ml is the exact amount that Pelchat labs puts in there kits. AE Tech (AKA Dr. Benway) has probably the best reputation of all the GBL sellers, and the best customer care, they even replaced a leaky bottle for me at no cost with no hassles. AE Tech uses 99.97% pure BASF electronic grade GBL (The purest GBL available). There's really no reason to buy from anyone else. (NOTE: AE tech was not shipping in late October and November, because DR Benway was arrested. But he's back now and shipping again. All orders recieved in october and november, as well an current orders will be filled ASAP.) Vegan Soapworks sells very pure NaOH in 63 gram bottles, this is just the right amount to react with 120 ml of GBL, they also sell PH test paper. Vegan Soapworks only claims that their NaOH is USP grade, however it tested >99%. I have had nothing but good experiences with Vegan Soapworks they have shown integrity and reliability equal to that of Pelchat labs. They also have 2 lb bottles of NaOH and KOH, they will sell larger amounts apon request*. So far I have never needed to make any adjustments to the PH of the GHB I make with Vegan Soapworks NaOH and AE Tech GBL, nor boil off excess GBL. In Fact I have had better results with these "half kits" than with the kits I used to get. I recommend buying from these two companies. *Warning: DO NOT mention GHB or exothermic reactions or ask any chemistry questions when communicating with Vegan Soapwork They are a real soap company. Soap is NOT a euphemism for GHB. I have had several emails from people who have had there orders refused because they ask GHB related questions. This is a great source please don't fuck it up by asking stupid questions or else they might stop selling NaOH without all the other soap making shit. Adddition Suppliers Chemical Kits is located in western Europe, where GHB is legal. The Assays of there chemicals look very good and the proportions are also correct. I have heard no complaints about there kits. I have gotten a few reports from people about not receiveing shipments (all in the US), my guess is that the shipments were intercepted. On Oct 3, I got 3 emails praising them, from supposedly three customers, and an email from chemicalkits telling the new URL; all sent within an hour from the same computer. The owner of Chemicalkits later informed me that they were sent by a well meaning, but misguided freind, and that he didn't have anything to do with it, I will give him the benefit of the doubt. Inova sells GBL in large sizes starting at 1/2 gallon. Inova offers FCC grade GBL. Most the reports I've gotten have said that the are pretty good about shipping, though one person claims he didn't get his shipment even after a month. I've heard no complaints about their GBL. MBEtech. I would probally have to recommend AGAINST them as a source. Several posters in ADC have had negative experiences with their lactone which has left a few wondering whether their Gamma-Butyrolactone is really Beta-Butyrolactone. Miracle Cleaning Products. I really don't know much about them. I've tried several times to email them, but didn't get a reply. Their prices are higher for small quantites, but they have a good price if you want 5 gallons. Does anyone know if they are still in busness? Other suppliers have been deleted at their request.If you have any info about these suppliers or know of any other Kit makers email me at chemgirl_kt@... GHB SynthesisMaking GHB is easy if you take care to follow the nessessary safety procedures. Read both the Pelchat Synthesis and the Chem-R-Us Synthesis before trying to make it, then decide which method you want to try. I recommend the Chem-R-Us Synthesis because it's more precise and less likely to boil over, but the Pelchat Synthesis is less work and quicker. If you prefer to make GHB powder you can use the GHB Synthesis in Alcohol. However, GHB should not be taken in powdered form unless you have very accurate laboratory balance top measure the final dose. Alert!!! H.R. 2130has passed in the house, and in the Senate. This bill would make GHB a scheule 1 drug, so EVERYONE should write there the president urging him to veto the bill. Explain the valid medical uses of GHB and the low toxicity and relative saftey compared to prescription drugs. This is our last chance, action must be taken!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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