Re: Anti-sprout propaganda?

[Guest guest]

Lorri, most of the problems with sprouts in the past has been due to

poor or unsanitary handling by growers. Remember, when you grow your own,

you control all aspects of the process. Buy a good quality seed -

preferably organically grown - and handle as you would anything else that

you eat. Your body depends on you to take care of it.

Anti-sprout propaganda?

Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:32:21 -0000

Hi friends,

I'm still relatively new to this group, so I don't know if this

type of thread is acceptable. If not, will the moderators please let

me know? I promise I won't do it again if it causes problems.

My husband and I run a small community newspaper, so we get lots

of press releases from bureaucrats. We received one yesterday about a

recall of a certain brand of alfalfa sprouts (commercially grown, not

seeds, and not organic, as far as I can tell) being sold in stores.

The article warned of salmonella contamination, though no illnesses

have been reported.

After giving the specific brand and lot numbers, and that type of

pertinent information, this press release, from the California

Department of Public Health, went on to issue a blanket warning

against eating ALL sprouts in general. Here's the quote:

" CDPH continues to advise consumers about the risk of consuming raw

sprouts. Conditions required for sprout growing are ideal for rapid

bacterial growth. Sprouts usually are eaten raw, with no additional

treatment such as cooking which eliminates bacteria that can cause

disease. "

I am flabbergasted that, with all the substances out there that

the authorities allow to be marketed as " food, " in spite of being not

only void of nutrition but actually demonstrably harmful, that they

would choose to try to scare people away from eating one of the most

nutritious substances on the planet. Is this just an isolated

incident, or have some of you all noticed this same strange mindset?

And what's behind it? (Or do I want to know?) Do these people really

think everything destined for human consumption should be cooked? Are

they going to try to force us by law to do this? Do these guys never

eat salads?

It makes me angry, because I actually have encountered people who

are afraid to eat alfalfa sprouts because of some vague fears they

can't even articulate. However, most of them will still consume

artificial colors, flavors, diet sodas, fast food, genetically

modified organisms, etc. Go figure.

Sorry for ranting. I just thought I'd find some sympathetic

listeners here, and maybe some enlightenment.

Thanks!

Lorri W.

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Hi Lorri,

As the moderator I will tell you that there was NOTHING wrong with your post.

Your

amazement of lesser edibles are left alone, or endorsed, is - as we see it -

the correct

response. We Sproutpeople have long been subjected to this B.S.

Instead of writing too much i will send you to some of our pages for further

details. I will

paraphrase before I post the links though. There has never been a food borne

illness

blamed on organic seeds. That is the main point. And, since you are growing

your own

you would find it virtually impossible to produce pathogens in your sprouts.

OK - take a look at these pages:

http://www..com/Political/outbreak.html

http://www..com/safe.html

http://www..com/Political/fda.html

I know there are too many words. I do tend to rant on this subject, but I'm

certain that

even a brief look over those pages will make any fear disappear.

Happy Sprouting!

Gil

Sproutpeople

http://www..com

group owner/moderator

>

> Hi friends,

>

> I'm still relatively new to this group, so I don't know if this

> type of thread is acceptable. If not, will the moderators please let

> me know? I promise I won't do it again if it causes problems.

>

> My husband and I run a small community newspaper, so we get lots

> of press releases from bureaucrats. We received one yesterday about a

> recall of a certain brand of alfalfa sprouts (commercially grown, not

> seeds, and not organic, as far as I can tell) being sold in stores.

> The article warned of salmonella contamination, though no illnesses

> have been reported.

>

> After giving the specific brand and lot numbers, and that type of

> pertinent information, this press release, from the California

> Department of Public Health, went on to issue a blanket warning

> against eating ALL sprouts in general. Here's the quote:

>

> " CDPH continues to advise consumers about the risk of consuming raw

> sprouts. Conditions required for sprout growing are ideal for rapid

> bacterial growth. Sprouts usually are eaten raw, with no additional

> treatment such as cooking which eliminates bacteria that can cause

> disease. "

>

> I am flabbergasted that, with all the substances out there that

> the authorities allow to be marketed as " food, " in spite of being not

> only void of nutrition but actually demonstrably harmful, that they

> would choose to try to scare people away from eating one of the most

> nutritious substances on the planet. Is this just an isolated

> incident, or have some of you all noticed this same strange mindset?

> And what's behind it? (Or do I want to know?) Do these people really

> think everything destined for human consumption should be cooked? Are

> they going to try to force us by law to do this? Do these guys never

> eat salads?

>

> It makes me angry, because I actually have encountered people who

> are afraid to eat alfalfa sprouts because of some vague fears they

> can't even articulate. However, most of them will still consume

> artificial colors, flavors, diet sodas, fast food, genetically

> modified organisms, etc. Go figure.

>

> Sorry for ranting. I just thought I'd find some sympathetic

> listeners here, and maybe some enlightenment.

>

> Thanks!

> Lorri W.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello all, ~Here is the alert (and picture of product) that Trader

Joe's had for

the Nature's Choice Alfalfa Sprouts:

http://www.traderjoes.com/action_issues.asp#AlfalfaSprouts

~San Francisco Bay Area

>

> Hi friends,

>

> I'm still relatively new to this group, so I don't know if this

> type of thread is acceptable. If not, will the moderators please let

> me know? I promise I won't do it again if it causes problems.

>

> My husband and I run a small community newspaper, so we get lots

> of press releases from bureaucrats. We received one yesterday about a

> recall of a certain brand of alfalfa sprouts (commercially grown, not

> seeds, and not organic, as far as I can tell) being sold in stores.

> The article warned of salmonella contamination, though no illnesses

> have been reported.

>

> After giving the specific brand and lot numbers, and that type of

> pertinent information, this press release, from the California

> Department of Public Health, went on to issue a blanket warning

> against eating ALL sprouts in general. Here's the quote:

>

> " CDPH continues to advise consumers about the risk of consuming raw

> sprouts. Conditions required for sprout growing are ideal for rapid

> bacterial growth. Sprouts usually are eaten raw, with no additional

> treatment such as cooking which eliminates bacteria that can cause

> disease. "

>

> I am flabbergasted that, with all the substances out there that

> the authorities allow to be marketed as " food, " in spite of being not

> only void of nutrition but actually demonstrably harmful, that they

> would choose to try to scare people away from eating one of the most

> nutritious substances on the planet. Is this just an isolated

> incident, or have some of you all noticed this same strange mindset?

> And what's behind it? (Or do I want to know?) Do these people really

> think everything destined for human consumption should be cooked? Are

> they going to try to force us by law to do this? Do these guys never

> eat salads?

>

> It makes me angry, because I actually have encountered people who

> are afraid to eat alfalfa sprouts because of some vague fears they

> can't even articulate. However, most of them will still consume

> artificial colors, flavors, diet sodas, fast food, genetically

> modified organisms, etc. Go figure.

>

> Sorry for ranting. I just thought I'd find some sympathetic

> listeners here, and maybe some enlightenment.

>

> Thanks!

> Lorri W.

>

[Guest guest]

Melody, Here is an e-mail from Gil from last March. I think that that was

before you joined.

ew

Re: Anti-sprout propaganda?

Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 07:35:15 -0000

Hi Lorri,

As the moderator I will tell you that there was NOTHING wrong with

your post. Your

amazement of lesser edibles are left alone, or endorsed, is - as we

see it - the correct

response. We Sproutpeople have long been subjected to this B.S.

Instead of writing too much i will send you to some of our pages for

further details. I will

paraphrase before I post the links though. There has never been a

food borne illness

blamed on organic seeds. That is the main point. And, since you are

growing your own

you would find it virtually impossible to produce pathogens in your

sprouts.

OK - take a look at these pages:

http://www..com/Political/outbreak.html

http://www..com/safe.html

http://www..com/Political/fda.html

I know there are too many words. I do tend to rant on this subject,

but I'm certain that

even a brief look over those pages will make any fear disappear.

Happy Sprouting!

Gil

Sproutpeople

http://www..com

group owner/moderator

>

> Hi friends,

>

> I'm still relatively new to this group, so I don't know if this

> type of thread is acceptable. If not, will the moderators please

let

> me know? I promise I won't do it again if it causes problems.

>

> My husband and I run a small community newspaper, so we get lots

> of press releases from bureaucrats. We received one yesterday about

a

> recall of a certain brand of alfalfa sprouts (commercially grown,

not

> seeds, and not organic, as far as I can tell) being sold in stores.

> The article warned of salmonella contamination, though no illnesses

> have been reported.

>

> After giving the specific brand and lot numbers, and that type of

> pertinent information, this press release, from the California

> Department of Public Health, went on to issue a blanket warning

> against eating ALL sprouts in general. Here's the quote:

>

> " CDPH continues to advise consumers about the risk of consuming raw

> sprouts. Conditions required for sprout growing are ideal for rapid

> bacterial growth. Sprouts usually are eaten raw, with no additional

> treatment such as cooking which eliminates bacteria that can cause

> disease. "

>

> I am flabbergasted that, with all the substances out there that

> the authorities allow to be marketed as " food, " in spite of being

not

> only void of nutrition but actually demonstrably harmful, that they

> would choose to try to scare people away from eating one of the

most

> nutritious substances on the planet. Is this just an isolated

> incident, or have some of you all noticed this same strange

mindset?

> And what's behind it? (Or do I want to know?) Do these people

really

> think everything destined for human consumption should be cooked?

Are

> they going to try to force us by law to do this? Do these guys

never

> eat salads?

>

> It makes me angry, because I actually have encountered people who

> are afraid to eat alfalfa sprouts because of some vague fears they

> can't even articulate. However, most of them will still consume

> artificial colors, flavors, diet sodas, fast food, genetically

> modified organisms, etc. Go figure.

>

> Sorry for ranting. I just thought I'd find some sympathetic

> listeners here, and maybe some enlightenment.

>

> Thanks!

> Lorri W.

>

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Hi EW:

I had contacted Sproutpeople and they kindly responded to all my

questions. I have no more reservations. I love what I'm growing and I

feel that I'm doing all I can do to maintain my health.

Yesterday, I went to an anniversary party held by my husband's family.

We were having a good time. My brother in law who is 72, 5 feet 10,

weighs 120 lbs soaking wet, doesn't eat ANYTHING except pasta because

he says it's the only thing he can digest. (and I mean he doesn't eat

ANYTHING except white stuff, like rice, bread, pasta (maybe once in a

while he'll eat some chicken and veggies), but 99% of the time (and

I've seen this, he won't touch any food anyplace unless it's a plate

of pasta, and it can't have been cooked in any oil, any salt (he

doesn't touch any condiments at all).

So we are talking at the table and I'm showing him my sprout catalogue

and I showed him the sprout tray that I use and the seeds that I sprout.

He happened upon the Alfalfa seeds and I knew immediately what was

going to come out of his mouth (by the way, he wouldn't go near a

computer if his life depended on it, he's completely techo phobic), He

reads stuff.

So he goes " did you know that there once was a problem with alfalfa? "

and before he could utter another word, I said " my dear, that was in

1996, that was commercially grown alfalfa, WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO

WITH ORGANIC SEEDS " . AND THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A PROBLEM WITH ORGANIC

SEEDS " . He just said " oh!! "

Then he said " well, I know that you think you are getting

anti-oxidants from eating these things and eating blueberries, but

science has proved that anti-oxidants have nothing to do with fighting

cancer " .

I just stared at him and I said " really? where did you get this

information? " and he said " oh, I read reports " . (Remember, he never

goes near a computer so what reports he's reading, I have no idea).

I said " when I go home, I'm going to go on the internet, and there is

the LATEST information on cancer fighting and anti-oxidants, and I'll

be sure to look up what you are saying " .

So I did. the only article that stated anti-oxidants don't help in

cancer fighing has to do with gastrointestinal cancers.

THAT WAS THE ONLY ARTICLE.

Absolutely everything else I've read supports what we all know. That a

healthy lifestyle (which I told him about), and the eating of foods

rich in anti-oxidants (especially broccoli sprouts), can fight the

cancer that can plague us all. My whole family (on my mom's side), has

had some form of cancer. EVERY ONE OF THEM.

I told him this. I said " if you think I'm not going to do everything I

can do, (in lifestyle, food habits, WHATEVER I NEED TO DO, well, I'm

going to do it.

I emailed his wife. She always says " he doesn't know what he's talking

about, you can't change his eating habits, etc. "

I emailed her the proof and told her to Please Inform Your Husband

about the mis-information he has been fed.

I mean, really. You have a 120 man who eats only white stuff, has an

unhealthy appearance (and everyone at the party told us how good we

look (especially my husband, who is not a well man), so to me, the

proof is in the outcome.

Now I'll get off my soap box.

lol

Melody

[Guest guest]

Melody, the Guru!

Re: Anti-sprout propaganda?

Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:08:20 -0000

Hi EW:

I had contacted Sproutpeople and they kindly responded to all my

questions. I have no more reservations. I love what I'm growing and I

feel that I'm doing all I can do to maintain my health.

Yesterday, I went to an anniversary party held by my husband's

family.

We were having a good time. My brother in law who is 72, 5 feet 10,

weighs 120 lbs soaking wet, doesn't eat ANYTHING except pasta because

he says it's the only thing he can digest. (and I mean he doesn't eat

ANYTHING except white stuff, like rice, bread, pasta (maybe once in a

while he'll eat some chicken and veggies), but 99% of the time (and

I've seen this, he won't touch any food anyplace unless it's a plate

of pasta, and it can't have been cooked in any oil, any salt (he

doesn't touch any condiments at all).

So we are talking at the table and I'm showing him my sprout

catalogue

and I showed him the sprout tray that I use and the seeds that I

sprout.

He happened upon the Alfalfa seeds and I knew immediately what was

going to come out of his mouth (by the way, he wouldn't go near a

computer if his life depended on it, he's completely techo phobic),

He

reads stuff.

So he goes " did you know that there once was a problem with alfalfa? "

and before he could utter another word, I said " my dear, that was in

1996, that was commercially grown alfalfa, WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO

WITH ORGANIC SEEDS " . AND THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A PROBLEM WITH ORGANIC

SEEDS " . He just said " oh!! "

Then he said " well, I know that you think you are getting

anti-oxidants from eating these things and eating blueberries, but

science has proved that anti-oxidants have nothing to do with

fighting

cancer " .

I just stared at him and I said " really? where did you get this

information? " and he said " oh, I read reports " . (Remember, he never

goes near a computer so what reports he's reading, I have no idea).

I said " when I go home, I'm going to go on the internet, and there is

the LATEST information on cancer fighting and anti-oxidants, and I'll

be sure to look up what you are saying " .

So I did. the only article that stated anti-oxidants don't help in

cancer fighing has to do with gastrointestinal cancers.

THAT WAS THE ONLY ARTICLE.

Absolutely everything else I've read supports what we all know. That

a

healthy lifestyle (which I told him about), and the eating of foods

rich in anti-oxidants (especially broccoli sprouts), can fight the

cancer that can plague us all. My whole family (on my mom's side),

has

had some form of cancer. EVERY ONE OF THEM.

I told him this. I said " if you think I'm not going to do everything

I

can do, (in lifestyle, food habits, WHATEVER I NEED TO DO, well, I'm

going to do it.

I emailed his wife. She always says " he doesn't know what he's

talking

about, you can't change his eating habits, etc. "

I emailed her the proof and told her to Please Inform Your Husband

about the mis-information he has been fed.

I mean, really. You have a 120 man who eats only white stuff, has an

unhealthy appearance (and everyone at the party told us how good we

look (especially my husband, who is not a well man), so to me, the

proof is in the outcome.

Now I'll get off my soap box.

lol

Melody

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I'll be interested to see how this plays out, Melody. My experience has

been that people change their minds about what they eat when they are

ready to change, and not before.

Example: I work with a guy who is sick a lot, and who worries about his

weight, his heart, gout, diabetes, etc., etc. Yet, at least at work,

subsists on toaster pastries, coffee, bagels with cream cheese, burgers

& fries. He says that if he eats veggies or fresh fruit it makes him

ill. So I'm trying to be a good example, but I don't actually talk to

him about it. I'm fairly certain that the reception would not be

favorable. But at least he isn't trying to feed me pastry, so it's all

good.

melodylubart1 wrote:

>

> Hi EW:

>

> I had contacted Sproutpeople and they kindly responded to all my

> questions. I have no more reservations. I love what I'm growing and I

> feel that I'm doing all I can do to maintain my health.

>

> Yesterday, I went to an anniversary party held by my husband's family.

>

> We were having a good time. My brother in law who is 72, 5 feet 10,

> weighs 120 lbs soaking wet, doesn't eat ANYTHING except pasta because

> he says it's the only thing he can digest. (and I mean he doesn't eat

> ANYTHING except white stuff, like rice, bread, pasta (maybe once in a

> while he'll eat some chicken and veggies), but 99% of the time (and

> I've seen this, he won't touch any food anyplace unless it's a plate

> of pasta, and it can't have been cooked in any oil, any salt (he

> doesn't touch any condiments at all).

>

> So we are talking at the table and I'm showing him my sprout catalogue

> and I showed him the sprout tray that I use and the seeds that I sprout.

>

> He happened upon the Alfalfa seeds and I knew immediately what was

> going to come out of his mouth (by the way, he wouldn't go near a

> computer if his life depended on it, he's completely techo phobic), He

> reads stuff.

>

> So he goes " did you know that there once was a problem with alfalfa? "

> and before he could utter another word, I said " my dear, that was in

> 1996, that was commercially grown alfalfa, WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO

> WITH ORGANIC SEEDS " . AND THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A PROBLEM WITH ORGANIC

> SEEDS " . He just said " oh!! "

>

> Then he said " well, I know that you think you are getting

> anti-oxidants from eating these things and eating blueberries, but

> science has proved that anti-oxidants have nothing to do with fighting

> cancer " .

>

> I just stared at him and I said " really? where did you get this

> information? " and he said " oh, I read reports " . (Remember, he never

> goes near a computer so what reports he's reading, I have no idea).

>

> I said " when I go home, I'm going to go on the internet, and there is

> the LATEST information on cancer fighting and anti-oxidants, and I'll

> be sure to look up what you are saying " .

>

> So I did. the only article that stated anti-oxidants don't help in

> cancer fighing has to do with gastrointestinal cancers.

>

> THAT WAS THE ONLY ARTICLE.

>

> Absolutely everything else I've read supports what we all know. That a

> healthy lifestyle (which I told him about), and the eating of foods

> rich in anti-oxidants (especially broccoli sprouts), can fight the

> cancer that can plague us all. My whole family (on my mom's side), has

> had some form of cancer. EVERY ONE OF THEM.

>

> I told him this. I said " if you think I'm not going to do everything I

> can do, (in lifestyle, food habits, WHATEVER I NEED TO DO, well, I'm

> going to do it.

>

> I emailed his wife. She always says " he doesn't know what he's talking

> about, you can't change his eating habits, etc. "

>

> I emailed her the proof and told her to Please Inform Your Husband

> about the mis-information he has been fed.

>

> I mean, really. You have a 120 man who eats only white stuff, has an

> unhealthy appearance (and everyone at the party told us how good we

> look (especially my husband, who is not a well man), so to me, the

> proof is in the outcome.

>

> Now I'll get off my soap box.

>

> lol

>

> Melody

>

>

[Guest guest]

Melody,

Tell your brother about the book " Live Right For Your Type " I think it

was this list that someone gave it to me. I have the book from the

Library right now and have been following my blood type and my " GUT "

feels so much better!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am estactic about how good my

stomach feels. My blood type has low digestive juices to begin with

which makes it more difficult. There is a website he or his wife can

go to http://www.dadamo.com/ He will find that he feels so much

better. The reason certain beans were makeing me hurt so bad, I cannot

digest them!!!!!!! They are on the " Avoid " list for me. Oh by the way

certain sprouts are considered " Beneficial " for my blood

type...Alfalfa, Mung, Radish. Wow Again!

[Guest guest]

Hi. My brother in law is 72 years old and is VERY SET IN HIS WAYS. He

only drinks hot water with meals. He takes 4 or 5 gaviscon with every

meal. And he takes antacids. He will not change. And I'm even going to

try and change him. He is so set in his ways, well, he just is.

He's worried about getting diabetes. his sugar reading is 105. It's

been 105 for 20 years. He's 72 years old.

But because of his stomach problems (he always has the runs), well, he

won't eat anything but white stuff.

In the past 28 years, we've had talks. But he thinks the way he

thinks, and who am I to try and change his mind.

I figure it this way. I can lead by example. I look fine, I feel fine,

(better since I sprout), my husband who is not well man, feels much

better, and looks it. So we lead by example.

If a person wants to eat everything white and thinks it's healthy,

well, he's not going to listen to me, because he hasn't listened to

anyone else.

And he won't go near a computer, a dvd player, a vcr, and his wife is

lucky that he can change the channel on the tv.

So he's extremely tecnically challenged.

And I know, that for every thing I tell him that is positive, he'll

find something negative to back up his theories.

I believe that if we WANT to make positive changes in our lives, that

we CAN.

He doesn't.

Simple as that.

lol

Melody

> >

> > Hi EW:

> >

> > I had contacted Sproutpeople and they kindly responded to all my

> > questions. I have no more reservations. I love what I'm growing and I

> > feel that I'm doing all I can do to maintain my health.

> >

> > Yesterday, I went to an anniversary party held by my husband's family.

> >

> > We were having a good time. My brother in law who is 72, 5 feet 10,

> > weighs 120 lbs soaking wet, doesn't eat ANYTHING except pasta because

> > he says it's the only thing he can digest. (and I mean he doesn't eat

> > ANYTHING except white stuff, like rice, bread, pasta (maybe once in a

> > while he'll eat some chicken and veggies), but 99% of the time (and

> > I've seen this, he won't touch any food anyplace unless it's a plate

> > of pasta, and it can't have been cooked in any oil, any salt (he

> > doesn't touch any condiments at all).

> >

> > So we are talking at the table and I'm showing him my sprout catalogue

> > and I showed him the sprout tray that I use and the seeds that I

sprout.

> >

> > He happened upon the Alfalfa seeds and I knew immediately what was

> > going to come out of his mouth (by the way, he wouldn't go near a

> > computer if his life depended on it, he's completely techo phobic), He

> > reads stuff.

> >

> > So he goes " did you know that there once was a problem with alfalfa? "

> > and before he could utter another word, I said " my dear, that was in

> > 1996, that was commercially grown alfalfa, WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO

> > WITH ORGANIC SEEDS " . AND THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A PROBLEM WITH ORGANIC

> > SEEDS " . He just said " oh!! "

> >

> > Then he said " well, I know that you think you are getting

> > anti-oxidants from eating these things and eating blueberries, but

> > science has proved that anti-oxidants have nothing to do with fighting

> > cancer " .

> >

> > I just stared at him and I said " really? where did you get this

> > information? " and he said " oh, I read reports " . (Remember, he never

> > goes near a computer so what reports he's reading, I have no idea).

> >

> > I said " when I go home, I'm going to go on the internet, and there is

> > the LATEST information on cancer fighting and anti-oxidants, and I'll

> > be sure to look up what you are saying " .

> >

> > So I did. the only article that stated anti-oxidants don't help in

> > cancer fighing has to do with gastrointestinal cancers.

> >

> > THAT WAS THE ONLY ARTICLE.

> >

> > Absolutely everything else I've read supports what we all know. That a

> > healthy lifestyle (which I told him about), and the eating of foods

> > rich in anti-oxidants (especially broccoli sprouts), can fight the

> > cancer that can plague us all. My whole family (on my mom's side), has

> > had some form of cancer. EVERY ONE OF THEM.

> >

> > I told him this. I said " if you think I'm not going to do everything I

> > can do, (in lifestyle, food habits, WHATEVER I NEED TO DO, well, I'm

> > going to do it.

> >

> > I emailed his wife. She always says " he doesn't know what he's talking

> > about, you can't change his eating habits, etc. "

> >

> > I emailed her the proof and told her to Please Inform Your Husband

> > about the mis-information he has been fed.

> >

> > I mean, really. You have a 120 man who eats only white stuff, has an

> > unhealthy appearance (and everyone at the party told us how good we

> > look (especially my husband, who is not a well man), so to me, the

> > proof is in the outcome.

> >

> > Now I'll get off my soap box.

> >

> > lol

> >

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Melody - I did get sick on certified organic alfalfa seeds about 2

years ago. I did not report it to the health district, but did

return the seeds to Whole Foods. I haven't eaten alfalfa sprouts

since. I believe that sprouts are a very important part of a

healthy diet. They alkalinize your body and I eat lots of them

raw. I have heard that cancer can't grow or has a hard time growing

in an alkaline body, it likes acidity (low oxygen) to grow. I know

that my candida and dysbiosis is decreasing rapidly as I am

alkalinizing my body. Raw sprouts are an important part of that.

There is a lot on the internet about raw alfalfa sprouts, and why

would so much be there if there wasn't a problem with the alfalfa??

I think we each have to make our own decision about what is right

for us. I eat fairly raw meat. I have heard many people tell me

about the dangers of raw meat, but I have not had a problem so far.

Maybe when I get sick from it, I will stop eating it that way, but

so far it has been ok. Your chances of getting sick on organic

alfalfa sprouts are probably very limited. Lots of people eat them

with no problem. We've had outbreaks of foodborne illnesses in lots

of raw natural foods like peppers, lettuce, spinach, apples. We all

take chances in life, just living, and we all chose what we are

comfortable with based on the information that we have. Eat well,

enjoy your food, and alkalinize to stay healthy. I believe it is

important.

Barb

>

> Hi EW:

>

> I had contacted Sproutpeople and they kindly responded to all my

> questions. I have no more reservations. I love what I'm growing

and I

> feel that I'm doing all I can do to maintain my health.

>

> Yesterday, I went to an anniversary party held by my husband's

family.

>

> We were having a good time. My brother in law who is 72, 5 feet 10,

> weighs 120 lbs soaking wet, doesn't eat ANYTHING except pasta

because

> he says it's the only thing he can digest. (and I mean he doesn't

eat

> ANYTHING except white stuff, like rice, bread, pasta (maybe once

in a

> while he'll eat some chicken and veggies), but 99% of the time (and

> I've seen this, he won't touch any food anyplace unless it's a

plate

> of pasta, and it can't have been cooked in any oil, any salt (he

> doesn't touch any condiments at all).

>

> So we are talking at the table and I'm showing him my sprout

catalogue

> and I showed him the sprout tray that I use and the seeds that I

sprout.

>

> He happened upon the Alfalfa seeds and I knew immediately what was

> going to come out of his mouth (by the way, he wouldn't go near a

> computer if his life depended on it, he's completely techo

phobic), He

> reads stuff.

>

> So he goes " did you know that there once was a problem with

alfalfa? "

> and before he could utter another word, I said " my dear, that was

in

> 1996, that was commercially grown alfalfa, WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO

> WITH ORGANIC SEEDS " . AND THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A PROBLEM WITH

ORGANIC

> SEEDS " . He just said " oh!! "

>

> Then he said " well, I know that you think you are getting

> anti-oxidants from eating these things and eating blueberries, but

> science has proved that anti-oxidants have nothing to do with

fighting

> cancer " .

>

> I just stared at him and I said " really? where did you get this

> information? " and he said " oh, I read reports " . (Remember, he never

> goes near a computer so what reports he's reading, I have no idea).

>

> I said " when I go home, I'm going to go on the internet, and there

is

> the LATEST information on cancer fighting and anti-oxidants, and

I'll

> be sure to look up what you are saying " .

>

> So I did. the only article that stated anti-oxidants don't help in

> cancer fighing has to do with gastrointestinal cancers.

>

> THAT WAS THE ONLY ARTICLE.

>

> Absolutely everything else I've read supports what we all know.

That a

> healthy lifestyle (which I told him about), and the eating of foods

> rich in anti-oxidants (especially broccoli sprouts), can fight the

> cancer that can plague us all. My whole family (on my mom's side),

has

> had some form of cancer. EVERY ONE OF THEM.

>

> I told him this. I said " if you think I'm not going to do

everything I

> can do, (in lifestyle, food habits, WHATEVER I NEED TO DO, well,

I'm

> going to do it.

>

> I emailed his wife. She always says " he doesn't know what he's

talking

> about, you can't change his eating habits, etc. "

>

> I emailed her the proof and told her to Please Inform Your Husband

> about the mis-information he has been fed.

>

> I mean, really. You have a 120 man who eats only white stuff, has

an

> unhealthy appearance (and everyone at the party told us how good we

> look (especially my husband, who is not a well man), so to me, the

> proof is in the outcome.

>

> Now I'll get off my soap box.

>

> lol

>

> Melody

>

[Guest guest]

Melody - I did get sick on certified organic alfalfa seeds about 2

years ago. I did not report it to the health district, but did

return the seeds to Whole Foods. I haven't eaten alfalfa sprouts

since. I believe that sprouts are a very important part of a

healthy diet. They alkalinize your body and I eat lots of them

raw. I have heard that cancer can't grow or has a hard time growing

in an alkaline body, it likes acidity (low oxygen) to grow. I know

that my candida and dysbiosis is decreasing rapidly as I am

alkalinizing my body. Raw sprouts are an important part of that.

There is a lot on the internet about raw alfalfa sprouts, and why

would so much be there if there wasn't a problem with the alfalfa??

I think we each have to make our own decision about what is right

for us. I eat fairly raw meat. I have heard many people tell me

about the dangers of raw meat, but I have not had a problem so far.

Maybe when I get sick from it, I will stop eating it that way, but

so far it has been ok. Your chances of getting sick on organic

alfalfa sprouts are probably very limited. Lots of people eat them

with no problem. We've had outbreaks of foodborne illnesses in lots

of raw natural foods like peppers, lettuce, spinach, apples. We all

take chances in life, just living, and we all chose what we are

comfortable with based on the information that we have. Eat well,

enjoy your food, and alkalinize to stay healthy. I believe it is

important.

Barb

>

> Hi EW:

>

> I had contacted Sproutpeople and they kindly responded to all my

> questions. I have no more reservations. I love what I'm growing

and I

> feel that I'm doing all I can do to maintain my health.

>

> Yesterday, I went to an anniversary party held by my husband's

family.

>

> We were having a good time. My brother in law who is 72, 5 feet 10,

> weighs 120 lbs soaking wet, doesn't eat ANYTHING except pasta

because

> he says it's the only thing he can digest. (and I mean he doesn't

eat

> ANYTHING except white stuff, like rice, bread, pasta (maybe once

in a

> while he'll eat some chicken and veggies), but 99% of the time (and

> I've seen this, he won't touch any food anyplace unless it's a

plate

> of pasta, and it can't have been cooked in any oil, any salt (he

> doesn't touch any condiments at all).

>

> So we are talking at the table and I'm showing him my sprout

catalogue

> and I showed him the sprout tray that I use and the seeds that I

sprout.

>

> He happened upon the Alfalfa seeds and I knew immediately what was

> going to come out of his mouth (by the way, he wouldn't go near a

> computer if his life depended on it, he's completely techo

phobic), He

> reads stuff.

>

> So he goes " did you know that there once was a problem with

alfalfa? "

> and before he could utter another word, I said " my dear, that was

in

> 1996, that was commercially grown alfalfa, WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO

> WITH ORGANIC SEEDS " . AND THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A PROBLEM WITH

ORGANIC

> SEEDS " . He just said " oh!! "

>

> Then he said " well, I know that you think you are getting

> anti-oxidants from eating these things and eating blueberries, but

> science has proved that anti-oxidants have nothing to do with

fighting

> cancer " .

>

> I just stared at him and I said " really? where did you get this

> information? " and he said " oh, I read reports " . (Remember, he never

> goes near a computer so what reports he's reading, I have no idea).

>

> I said " when I go home, I'm going to go on the internet, and there

is

> the LATEST information on cancer fighting and anti-oxidants, and

I'll

> be sure to look up what you are saying " .

>

> So I did. the only article that stated anti-oxidants don't help in

> cancer fighing has to do with gastrointestinal cancers.

>

> THAT WAS THE ONLY ARTICLE.

>

> Absolutely everything else I've read supports what we all know.

That a

> healthy lifestyle (which I told him about), and the eating of foods

> rich in anti-oxidants (especially broccoli sprouts), can fight the

> cancer that can plague us all. My whole family (on my mom's side),

has

> had some form of cancer. EVERY ONE OF THEM.

>

> I told him this. I said " if you think I'm not going to do

everything I

> can do, (in lifestyle, food habits, WHATEVER I NEED TO DO, well,

I'm

> going to do it.

>

> I emailed his wife. She always says " he doesn't know what he's

talking

> about, you can't change his eating habits, etc. "

>

> I emailed her the proof and told her to Please Inform Your Husband

> about the mis-information he has been fed.

>

> I mean, really. You have a 120 man who eats only white stuff, has

an

> unhealthy appearance (and everyone at the party told us how good we

> look (especially my husband, who is not a well man), so to me, the

> proof is in the outcome.

>

> Now I'll get off my soap box.

>

> lol

>

> Melody

>

[Guest guest]

I think you're right Melody, he won't try anything

else unless he is ready to if he ever is and

nothing you could do would change it. It's not

worth the stress :-)

Lorri

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From:

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melodylubart1

Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:30 AM

Subject: Re: Anti-sprout

propaganda?

Hi. My brother in law is 72 years old and is VERY

SET IN HIS WAYS. He

only drinks hot water with meals. He takes 4 or 5

gaviscon with every

meal. And he takes antacids. He will not change.

And I'm even going to

try and change him. He is so set in his ways,

well, he just is.