Re: OT:Mostly Bogus! Constitutional changes from healthcare bill

[Guest guest]

So - you obviously have some considerable knowledge of constitutional law to speak with such confidence about these matters off the cuff.   I am impressed!!  Schneider DC

On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Kalb MS DC <john@...> wrote:

 



Snopes only verified that this OPINION BLOG  was correctly attributed to some retired attorney named Connelly. Other constitutional attorneys have given the opinion that Obamacare is constitutional.

So what else is new?  Some of the preposterous and inflammatory claims in the article are obviously false, like free abortions. I think it's a disservice to our profession to pass something like this along even as an OT post.  jk

 

 

M. Kalb MS DCThe Wellness Chiropractor and Health Coachwww.DrKalb.com  541.488.3001/888.488.3001

 

 

OT Constitutional changes from healthcare bill

 

  

 

 

 

 

This is quick, well written, and informative. No matter which side you are on, you should read it before you form an opinion.  You might be surprised.

 

  

Snopes verified that this is truly from Connelly.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/connelly.asp  

The Truth About the Health Care Act 

Connelly - Ret. Constitutional Law Attorney   Well, I've done it!  I have read the entire text of proposed House Bill 3200: The Affordable Health Care Choices Act of 2009. I studied it with particular emphasis from my area of expertise, constitutional law.  I was frankly concerned that parts of the proposed law might be unconstitutional. What I found was far worse than what I had heard or expected. To begin with, much of what has been said about the law and its implications is in fact true, despite what the Democrats and the media are saying.  The law does provide for rationing of health care, particularly where senior citizens and other classes of citizens are involved, free health care for illegal immigrants, free abortion services, and probably forced participation in abortions by members of the medical profession. The Bill will also eventually force private insurance companies out of business, and put everyone into a government run system.  All decisions about personal health care will ultimately be made by federal bureaucrats, and most of them will not be health care professionals.  Hospital admissions, payments to physicians, and allocations of necessary medical devices will be strictly controlled by the government. However, as scary as all of that is, it just scratches the surface.  In fact, I have concluded that this legislation really has no intention of providing affordable health care choices.  Instead it is a convenient cover for the most massive transfer of power to the Executive Branch of government that has ever occurred, or even been contemplated. If this law or a similar one is adopted, major portions of the Constitution of the United States will effectively have been destroyed. The first thing to go will be the masterfully crafted balance of power between the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of the U.S. Government.  The Congress will be transferring to the Obama Administration authority in a number of different areas over the lives of the American people, and the businesses they own. The irony is that the Congress doesn't have any authority to legislate in most of those areas to begin with!  I defy anyone to read the text of the U.S. Constitution and find any authority granted to the members of Congress to regulate health care. This legislation also provides for access, by the appointees of the Obama administration, to all of your personal healthcare and financial information, and personal information from your employer, physician and hospital: a direct violation of the specific provisions of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution, which provides protection against unreasonable searches and seizures.  You can also forget about the right to privacy.  That will have been legislated into oblivion regardless of what the 3rd and 4th Amendments may provide. If you decide not to have healthcare insurance or if you have private insurance that is not deemed acceptable to the Health Choices Administrator appointed by Obama, there will be a tax imposed on you.  It is called a tax instead of a fine because of the intent to avoid application of the due process clause of the 5th Amendment. There is nothing in the Health Care Bill that allows you to contest or appeal the imposition of the tax; which deprives us of property without the due process of law. Three amendments out of the original ten in the Bill of Rights, are effectively nullified by this Health Care Act. Under the provisions of this piece of Congressional handiwork neither the people nor the states are going to have any rights or powers at all in many areas that once were theirs to control. I could write many more pages about this legislation, but I think you get the idea. This is not about health care; it is about seizing power and limiting rights. Article 6 of the Constitution requires the members of both houses of Congress to " be bound by oath or affirmation to support the Constitution. " If I was a member of Congress I would not be able to vote for this legislation or anything like it without feeling I was violating that sacred oath or affirmation.  If I voted for it anyway, I would hope the American people would hold me accountable. For those who might doubt the nature of this threat, I suggest they consult the source, the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights. There you can see exactly what we are about to have taken from us.  Connelly Retired Attorney, Constitutional Law Instructor Carrollton , Texas

WE MUST HOLD CONGRESS ACCOUNTABLE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!  

FORWARD THIS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW! 

 

God Bless America !

 

 

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[Guest guest]

So - you obviously have some considerable knowledge of constitutional law to speak with such confidence about these matters off the cuff.   I am impressed!!  Schneider DC

On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Kalb MS DC <john@...> wrote:

 



Snopes only verified that this OPINION BLOG  was correctly attributed to some retired attorney named Connelly. Other constitutional attorneys have given the opinion that Obamacare is constitutional.

So what else is new?  Some of the preposterous and inflammatory claims in the article are obviously false, like free abortions. I think it's a disservice to our profession to pass something like this along even as an OT post.  jk

 

 

M. Kalb MS DCThe Wellness Chiropractor and Health Coachwww.DrKalb.com  541.488.3001/888.488.3001

 

 

OT Constitutional changes from healthcare bill

 

  

 

 

 

 

This is quick, well written, and informative. No matter which side you are on, you should read it before you form an opinion.  You might be surprised.

 

  

Snopes verified that this is truly from Connelly.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/connelly.asp  

The Truth About the Health Care Act 

Connelly - Ret. Constitutional Law Attorney   Well, I've done it!  I have read the entire text of proposed House Bill 3200: The Affordable Health Care Choices Act of 2009. I studied it with particular emphasis from my area of expertise, constitutional law.  I was frankly concerned that parts of the proposed law might be unconstitutional. What I found was far worse than what I had heard or expected. To begin with, much of what has been said about the law and its implications is in fact true, despite what the Democrats and the media are saying.  The law does provide for rationing of health care, particularly where senior citizens and other classes of citizens are involved, free health care for illegal immigrants, free abortion services, and probably forced participation in abortions by members of the medical profession. The Bill will also eventually force private insurance companies out of business, and put everyone into a government run system.  All decisions about personal health care will ultimately be made by federal bureaucrats, and most of them will not be health care professionals.  Hospital admissions, payments to physicians, and allocations of necessary medical devices will be strictly controlled by the government. However, as scary as all of that is, it just scratches the surface.  In fact, I have concluded that this legislation really has no intention of providing affordable health care choices.  Instead it is a convenient cover for the most massive transfer of power to the Executive Branch of government that has ever occurred, or even been contemplated. If this law or a similar one is adopted, major portions of the Constitution of the United States will effectively have been destroyed. The first thing to go will be the masterfully crafted balance of power between the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of the U.S. Government.  The Congress will be transferring to the Obama Administration authority in a number of different areas over the lives of the American people, and the businesses they own. The irony is that the Congress doesn't have any authority to legislate in most of those areas to begin with!  I defy anyone to read the text of the U.S. Constitution and find any authority granted to the members of Congress to regulate health care. This legislation also provides for access, by the appointees of the Obama administration, to all of your personal healthcare and financial information, and personal information from your employer, physician and hospital: a direct violation of the specific provisions of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution, which provides protection against unreasonable searches and seizures.  You can also forget about the right to privacy.  That will have been legislated into oblivion regardless of what the 3rd and 4th Amendments may provide. If you decide not to have healthcare insurance or if you have private insurance that is not deemed acceptable to the Health Choices Administrator appointed by Obama, there will be a tax imposed on you.  It is called a tax instead of a fine because of the intent to avoid application of the due process clause of the 5th Amendment. There is nothing in the Health Care Bill that allows you to contest or appeal the imposition of the tax; which deprives us of property without the due process of law. Three amendments out of the original ten in the Bill of Rights, are effectively nullified by this Health Care Act. Under the provisions of this piece of Congressional handiwork neither the people nor the states are going to have any rights or powers at all in many areas that once were theirs to control. I could write many more pages about this legislation, but I think you get the idea. This is not about health care; it is about seizing power and limiting rights. Article 6 of the Constitution requires the members of both houses of Congress to " be bound by oath or affirmation to support the Constitution. " If I was a member of Congress I would not be able to vote for this legislation or anything like it without feeling I was violating that sacred oath or affirmation.  If I voted for it anyway, I would hope the American people would hold me accountable. For those who might doubt the nature of this threat, I suggest they consult the source, the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights. There you can see exactly what we are about to have taken from us.  Connelly Retired Attorney, Constitutional Law Instructor Carrollton , Texas

WE MUST HOLD CONGRESS ACCOUNTABLE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!  

FORWARD THIS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW! 

 

God Bless America !

 

 

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I agree! It doesn't help us as individuals or as a profession to misinform..."According to another Quinnipiac poll released last week, Republicans were far more likely than Democrats to say that they follow public affairs most of the time. But how? They listen to people like Limbaugh, and they’re more likely than others to watch Fox News. But invectives are not information. For example, a poll released on Wednesday by the Pew Research Center found that most Republicans say that they still don’t understand how the new health care reform will affect them and their family.They don’t know what it means, but they believe it’s bad. Rush & Co. said so. In the vacuum of confusion and misinformation, they strum their fears and feed their anxiety. And, by worrying, their faith is made perfect."http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/03/opinion/03blow.html?th & emc=th Sears, DC, IAYT1218 NW 21st AvePortland, Oregon 97209v: 503-225-0255f: 503-525-6902www.docbones.comOn Apr 3, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Kalb MS DC wrote:  Snopes only verified that this OPINION BLOG was correctly attributed to some retired attorney named Connelly. Other constitutional attorneys have given the opinion that Obamacare is constitutional. So what else is new? Some of the preposterous and inflammatory claims in the article are obviously false, like free abortions. I think it's a disservice to our profession to pass something like this along even as an OT post. jk M. Kalb MS DCThe Wellness Chiropractor and Health Coachwww.DrKalb.com 541.488.3001/888.488.3001 OT Constitutional changes from healthcare bill  This is quick, well written, and informative. No matter which side you are on, you should read it before you form an opinion. You might be surprised. Snopes verified that this is truly from Connelly. http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/connelly.asp The Truth About the Health Care Act Connelly - Ret. Constitutional Law Attorney Well, I've done it! I have read the entire text of proposed House Bill 3200: The Affordable Health Care Choices Act of 2009. I studied it with particular emphasis from my area of expertise, constitutional law. I was frankly concerned that parts of the proposed law might be unconstitutional. What I found was far worse than what I had heard or expected. To begin with, much of what has been said about the law and its implications is in fact true, despite what the Democrats and the media are saying. The law does provide for rationing of health care, particularly where senior citizens and other classes of citizens are involved, free health care for illegal immigrants, free abortion services, and probably forced participation in abortions by members of the medical profession. The Bill will also eventually force private insurance companies out of business, and put everyone into a government run system. All decisions about personal health care will ultimately be made by federal bureaucrats, and most of them will not be health care professionals. Hospital admissions, payments to physicians, and allocations of necessary medical devices will be strictly controlled by the government. However, as scary as all of that is, it just scratches the surface. In fact, I have concluded that this legislation really has no intention of providing affordable health care choices. Instead it is a convenient cover for the most massive transfer of power to the Executive Branch of government that has ever occurred, or even been contemplated. If this law or a similar one is adopted, major portions of the Constitution of the United States will effectively have been destroyed. The first thing to go will be the masterfully crafted balance of power between the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of the U.S. Government. The Congress will be transferring to the Obama Administration authority in a number of different areas over the lives of the American people, and the businesses they own. The irony is that the Congress doesn't have any authority to legislate in most of those areas to begin with! I defy anyone to read the text of the U.S. Constitution and find any authority granted to the members of Congress to regulate health care. This legislation also provides for access, by the appointees of the Obama administration, to all of your personal healthcare and financial information, and personal information from your employer, physician and hospital: a direct violation of the specific provisions of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution, which provides protection against unreasonable searches and seizures. You can also forget about the right to privacy. That will have been legislated into oblivion regardless of what the 3rd and 4th Amendments may provide. If you decide not to have healthcare insurance or if you have private insurance that is not deemed acceptable to the Health Choices Administrator appointed by Obama, there will be a tax imposed on you. It is called a tax instead of a fine because of the intent to avoid application of the due process clause of the 5th Amendment. There is nothing in the Health Care Bill that allows you to contest or appeal the imposition of the tax; which deprives us of property without the due process of law. Three amendments out of the original ten in the Bill of Rights, are effectively nullified by this Health Care Act. Under the provisions of this piece of Congressional handiwork neither the people nor the states are going to have any rights or powers at all in many areas that once were theirs to control. I could write many more pages about this legislation, but I think you get the idea. This is not about health care; it is about seizing power and limiting rights. Article 6 of the Constitution requires the members of both houses of Congress to "be bound by oath or affirmation to support the Constitution." If I was a member of Congress I would not be able to vote for this legislation or anything like it without feeling I was violating that sacred oath or affirmation. If I voted for it anyway, I would hope the American people would hold me accountable. For those who might doubt the nature of this threat, I suggest they consult the source, the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights. There you can see exactly what we are about to have taken from us. Connelly Retired Attorney, Constitutional Law Instructor Carrollton , Texas WE MUST HOLD CONGRESS ACCOUNTABLE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE! FORWARD THIS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW! God Bless America ! Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. 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[Guest guest]

I agree! It doesn't help us as individuals or as a profession to misinform..."According to another Quinnipiac poll released last week, Republicans were far more likely than Democrats to say that they follow public affairs most of the time. But how? They listen to people like Limbaugh, and they’re more likely than others to watch Fox News. But invectives are not information. For example, a poll released on Wednesday by the Pew Research Center found that most Republicans say that they still don’t understand how the new health care reform will affect them and their family.They don’t know what it means, but they believe it’s bad. Rush & Co. said so. In the vacuum of confusion and misinformation, they strum their fears and feed their anxiety. And, by worrying, their faith is made perfect."http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/03/opinion/03blow.html?th & emc=th Sears, DC, IAYT1218 NW 21st AvePortland, Oregon 97209v: 503-225-0255f: 503-525-6902www.docbones.comOn Apr 3, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Kalb MS DC wrote:  Snopes only verified that this OPINION BLOG was correctly attributed to some retired attorney named Connelly. Other constitutional attorneys have given the opinion that Obamacare is constitutional. So what else is new? Some of the preposterous and inflammatory claims in the article are obviously false, like free abortions. I think it's a disservice to our profession to pass something like this along even as an OT post. jk M. Kalb MS DCThe Wellness Chiropractor and Health Coachwww.DrKalb.com 541.488.3001/888.488.3001 OT Constitutional changes from healthcare bill  This is quick, well written, and informative. No matter which side you are on, you should read it before you form an opinion. You might be surprised. Snopes verified that this is truly from Connelly. http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/connelly.asp The Truth About the Health Care Act Connelly - Ret. Constitutional Law Attorney Well, I've done it! I have read the entire text of proposed House Bill 3200: The Affordable Health Care Choices Act of 2009. I studied it with particular emphasis from my area of expertise, constitutional law. I was frankly concerned that parts of the proposed law might be unconstitutional. What I found was far worse than what I had heard or expected. To begin with, much of what has been said about the law and its implications is in fact true, despite what the Democrats and the media are saying. The law does provide for rationing of health care, particularly where senior citizens and other classes of citizens are involved, free health care for illegal immigrants, free abortion services, and probably forced participation in abortions by members of the medical profession. The Bill will also eventually force private insurance companies out of business, and put everyone into a government run system. All decisions about personal health care will ultimately be made by federal bureaucrats, and most of them will not be health care professionals. Hospital admissions, payments to physicians, and allocations of necessary medical devices will be strictly controlled by the government. However, as scary as all of that is, it just scratches the surface. In fact, I have concluded that this legislation really has no intention of providing affordable health care choices. Instead it is a convenient cover for the most massive transfer of power to the Executive Branch of government that has ever occurred, or even been contemplated. If this law or a similar one is adopted, major portions of the Constitution of the United States will effectively have been destroyed. The first thing to go will be the masterfully crafted balance of power between the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of the U.S. Government. The Congress will be transferring to the Obama Administration authority in a number of different areas over the lives of the American people, and the businesses they own. The irony is that the Congress doesn't have any authority to legislate in most of those areas to begin with! I defy anyone to read the text of the U.S. Constitution and find any authority granted to the members of Congress to regulate health care. This legislation also provides for access, by the appointees of the Obama administration, to all of your personal healthcare and financial information, and personal information from your employer, physician and hospital: a direct violation of the specific provisions of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution, which provides protection against unreasonable searches and seizures. You can also forget about the right to privacy. That will have been legislated into oblivion regardless of what the 3rd and 4th Amendments may provide. If you decide not to have healthcare insurance or if you have private insurance that is not deemed acceptable to the Health Choices Administrator appointed by Obama, there will be a tax imposed on you. It is called a tax instead of a fine because of the intent to avoid application of the due process clause of the 5th Amendment. There is nothing in the Health Care Bill that allows you to contest or appeal the imposition of the tax; which deprives us of property without the due process of law. Three amendments out of the original ten in the Bill of Rights, are effectively nullified by this Health Care Act. Under the provisions of this piece of Congressional handiwork neither the people nor the states are going to have any rights or powers at all in many areas that once were theirs to control. I could write many more pages about this legislation, but I think you get the idea. This is not about health care; it is about seizing power and limiting rights. Article 6 of the Constitution requires the members of both houses of Congress to "be bound by oath or affirmation to support the Constitution." If I was a member of Congress I would not be able to vote for this legislation or anything like it without feeling I was violating that sacred oath or affirmation. If I voted for it anyway, I would hope the American people would hold me accountable. For those who might doubt the nature of this threat, I suggest they consult the source, the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights. There you can see exactly what we are about to have taken from us. Connelly Retired Attorney, Constitutional Law Instructor Carrollton , Texas WE MUST HOLD CONGRESS ACCOUNTABLE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE! FORWARD THIS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW! God Bless America ! Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. 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[Guest guest]

Research done on Hurricane Katrina victims found that they admitted that they knew that the storm bearing down upon them was “bad” but they didn’t understand it thoroughly enough to respond appropriately. While gathering information to make a more comprehensive decision, several of them drowned.

Don’t know what the health care bill contains but Medicare is a good model for how bad government healthcare can be.

E. Abrahamson, D.C.

Chiropractic physician

Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic

315 Second Street

Lake Oswego, OR 97034

503-635-6246

Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com

From: Sears <dm.bones@...>

Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:13:31 -0700

Kalb MS DC <john@...>

Cc: " D Beebe, D.C. " <daniel.beebe@...>, < >

Subject: Re: OT:Mostly Bogus! Constitutional changes from healthcare bill

I agree! It doesn't help us as individuals or as a profession to misinform...

" According to another Quinnipiac poll <http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1436> released last week, Republicans were far more likely than Democrats to say that they follow public affairs most of the time. But how? They listen to people like Limbaugh, and they’re more likely than others to watch Fox News.

But invectives are not information. For example, a poll released on Wednesday <http://people-press.org/report/601/healthcare> by the Pew Research Center found that most Republicans say that they still don’t understand how the new health care reform will affect them and their family.

They don’t know what it means, but they believe it’s bad. Rush & Co. said so. In the vacuum of confusion and misinformation, they strum their fears and feed their anxiety. And, by worrying, their faith is made perfect. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/03/opinion/03blow.html?th & emc=th <http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/03/opinion/03blow.html?th & amp;emc=th>

Sears, DC, IAYT

1218 NW 21st Ave

Portland, Oregon 97209

v: 503-225-0255

f: 503-525-6902

www.docbones.com

On Apr 3, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Kalb MS DC wrote:



Snopes only verified that this OPINION BLOG was correctly attributed to some retired attorney named Connelly. Other constitutional attorneys have given the opinion that Obamacare is constitutional.

So what else is new? Some of the preposterous and inflammatory claims in the article are obviously false, like free abortions. I think it's a disservice to our profession to pass something like this along even as an OT post. jk

M. Kalb MS DC

The Wellness Chiropractor and Health Coach

www.DrKalb.com <http://www.DrKalb.com> 541.488.3001/888.488.3001

OT Constitutional changes from healthcare bill



This is quick, well written, and informative. No matter which side you are on, you should read it before you form an opinion. You might be surprised.

Snopes verified that this is truly from Connelly.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/connelly.asp

The Truth About the Health Care Act

Connelly - Ret. Constitutional Law Attorney

Well, I've done it! I have read the entire text of proposed House Bill 3200: The Affordable Health Care Choices Act of 2009. I studied it with particular emphasis from my area of expertise, constitutional law. I was frankly concerned that parts of the proposed law might be unconstitutional. What I found was far worse than what I had heard or expected.

To begin with, much of what has been said about the law and its implications is in fact true, despite what the Democrats and the media are saying. The law does provide for rationing of health care, particularly where senior citizens and other classes of citizens are involved, free health care for illegal immigrants, free abortion services, and probably forced participation in abortions by members of the medical profession.

The Bill will also eventually force private insurance companies out of business, and put everyone into a government run system. All decisions about personal health care will ultimately be made by federal bureaucrats, and most of them will not be health care professionals. Hospital admissions, payments to physicians, and allocations of necessary medical devices will be strictly controlled by the government.

However, as scary as all of that is, it just scratches the surface. In fact, I have concluded that this legislation really has no intention of providing affordable health care choices. Instead it is a convenient cover for the most massive transfer of power to the Executive Branch of government that has ever occurred, or even been contemplated. If this law or a similar one is adopted, major portions of the Constitution of the United States will effectively have been destroyed.

The first thing to go will be the masterfully crafted balance of power between the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of the U.S. Government. The Congress will be transferring to the Obama Administration authority in a number of different areas over the lives of the American people, and the businesses they own.

The irony is that the Congress doesn't have any authority to legislate in most of those areas to begin with! I defy anyone to read the text of the U.S. Constitution and find any authority granted to the members of Congress to regulate health care.

This legislation also provides for access, by the appointees of the Obama administration, to all of your personal healthcare and financial information, and personal information from your employer, physician and hospital: a direct violation of the specific provisions of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution, which provides protection against unreasonable searches and seizures. You can also forget about the right to privacy. That will have been legislated into oblivion regardless of what the 3rd and 4th Amendments may provide.

If you decide not to have healthcare insurance or if you have private insurance that is not deemed acceptable to the Health Choices Administrator appointed by Obama, there will be a tax imposed on you. It is called a tax instead of a fine because of the intent to avoid application of the due process clause of the 5th Amendment. There is nothing in the Health Care Bill that allows you to contest or appeal the imposition of the tax; which deprives us of property without the due process of law.

Three amendments out of the original ten in the Bill of Rights, are effectively nullified by this Health Care Act. Under the provisions of this piece of Congressional handiwork neither the people nor the states are going to have any rights or powers at all in many areas that once were theirs to control.

I could write many more pages about this legislation, but I think you get the idea. This is not about health care; it is about seizing power and limiting rights. Article 6 of the Constitution requires the members of both houses of Congress to " be bound by oath or affirmation to support the Constitution. " If I was a member of Congress I would not be able to vote for this legislation or anything like it without feeling I was violating that sacred oath or affirmation. If I voted for it anyway, I would hope the American people would hold me accountable.

For those who might doubt the nature of this threat, I suggest they consult the source, the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights. There you can see exactly what we are about to have taken from us.

Connelly

Retired Attorney,

Constitutional Law Instructor

Carrollton , Texas

WE MUST HOLD CONGRESS ACCOUNTABLE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!

FORWARD THIS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW!

God Bless America !

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[Guest guest]

Research done on Hurricane Katrina victims found that they admitted that they knew that the storm bearing down upon them was “bad” but they didn’t understand it thoroughly enough to respond appropriately. While gathering information to make a more comprehensive decision, several of them drowned.

Don’t know what the health care bill contains but Medicare is a good model for how bad government healthcare can be.

E. Abrahamson, D.C.

Chiropractic physician

Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic

315 Second Street

Lake Oswego, OR 97034

503-635-6246

Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com

From: Sears <dm.bones@...>

Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:13:31 -0700

Kalb MS DC <john@...>

Cc: " D Beebe, D.C. " <daniel.beebe@...>, < >

Subject: Re: OT:Mostly Bogus! Constitutional changes from healthcare bill

I agree! It doesn't help us as individuals or as a profession to misinform...

" According to another Quinnipiac poll <http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1436> released last week, Republicans were far more likely than Democrats to say that they follow public affairs most of the time. But how? They listen to people like Limbaugh, and they’re more likely than others to watch Fox News.

But invectives are not information. For example, a poll released on Wednesday <http://people-press.org/report/601/healthcare> by the Pew Research Center found that most Republicans say that they still don’t understand how the new health care reform will affect them and their family.

They don’t know what it means, but they believe it’s bad. Rush & Co. said so. In the vacuum of confusion and misinformation, they strum their fears and feed their anxiety. And, by worrying, their faith is made perfect. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/03/opinion/03blow.html?th & emc=th <http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/03/opinion/03blow.html?th & amp;emc=th>

Sears, DC, IAYT

1218 NW 21st Ave

Portland, Oregon 97209

v: 503-225-0255

f: 503-525-6902

www.docbones.com

On Apr 3, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Kalb MS DC wrote:



Snopes only verified that this OPINION BLOG was correctly attributed to some retired attorney named Connelly. Other constitutional attorneys have given the opinion that Obamacare is constitutional.

So what else is new? Some of the preposterous and inflammatory claims in the article are obviously false, like free abortions. I think it's a disservice to our profession to pass something like this along even as an OT post. jk

M. Kalb MS DC

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OT Constitutional changes from healthcare bill



This is quick, well written, and informative. No matter which side you are on, you should read it before you form an opinion. You might be surprised.

Snopes verified that this is truly from Connelly.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/connelly.asp

The Truth About the Health Care Act

Connelly - Ret. Constitutional Law Attorney

Well, I've done it! I have read the entire text of proposed House Bill 3200: The Affordable Health Care Choices Act of 2009. I studied it with particular emphasis from my area of expertise, constitutional law. I was frankly concerned that parts of the proposed law might be unconstitutional. What I found was far worse than what I had heard or expected.

To begin with, much of what has been said about the law and its implications is in fact true, despite what the Democrats and the media are saying. The law does provide for rationing of health care, particularly where senior citizens and other classes of citizens are involved, free health care for illegal immigrants, free abortion services, and probably forced participation in abortions by members of the medical profession.

The Bill will also eventually force private insurance companies out of business, and put everyone into a government run system. All decisions about personal health care will ultimately be made by federal bureaucrats, and most of them will not be health care professionals. Hospital admissions, payments to physicians, and allocations of necessary medical devices will be strictly controlled by the government.

However, as scary as all of that is, it just scratches the surface. In fact, I have concluded that this legislation really has no intention of providing affordable health care choices. Instead it is a convenient cover for the most massive transfer of power to the Executive Branch of government that has ever occurred, or even been contemplated. If this law or a similar one is adopted, major portions of the Constitution of the United States will effectively have been destroyed.

The first thing to go will be the masterfully crafted balance of power between the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of the U.S. Government. The Congress will be transferring to the Obama Administration authority in a number of different areas over the lives of the American people, and the businesses they own.

The irony is that the Congress doesn't have any authority to legislate in most of those areas to begin with! I defy anyone to read the text of the U.S. Constitution and find any authority granted to the members of Congress to regulate health care.

This legislation also provides for access, by the appointees of the Obama administration, to all of your personal healthcare and financial information, and personal information from your employer, physician and hospital: a direct violation of the specific provisions of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution, which provides protection against unreasonable searches and seizures. You can also forget about the right to privacy. That will have been legislated into oblivion regardless of what the 3rd and 4th Amendments may provide.

If you decide not to have healthcare insurance or if you have private insurance that is not deemed acceptable to the Health Choices Administrator appointed by Obama, there will be a tax imposed on you. It is called a tax instead of a fine because of the intent to avoid application of the due process clause of the 5th Amendment. There is nothing in the Health Care Bill that allows you to contest or appeal the imposition of the tax; which deprives us of property without the due process of law.

Three amendments out of the original ten in the Bill of Rights, are effectively nullified by this Health Care Act. Under the provisions of this piece of Congressional handiwork neither the people nor the states are going to have any rights or powers at all in many areas that once were theirs to control.

I could write many more pages about this legislation, but I think you get the idea. This is not about health care; it is about seizing power and limiting rights. Article 6 of the Constitution requires the members of both houses of Congress to " be bound by oath or affirmation to support the Constitution. " If I was a member of Congress I would not be able to vote for this legislation or anything like it without feeling I was violating that sacred oath or affirmation. If I voted for it anyway, I would hope the American people would hold me accountable.

For those who might doubt the nature of this threat, I suggest they consult the source, the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights. There you can see exactly what we are about to have taken from us.

Connelly

Retired Attorney,

Constitutional Law Instructor

Carrollton , Texas

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FORWARD THIS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW!

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Dr ,Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light for my path. dm.bones@...; john@...CC: daniel.beebe@...; From: drscott@...Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:47:13 -0700Subject: Re: OT:Mostly Bogus! Constitutional changes from healthcare bill Research done on Hurricane Katrina victims found that they admitted that they knew that the storm bearing down upon them was “bad†but they didn’t understand it thoroughly enough to respond appropriately. While gathering information to make a more comprehensive decision, several of them drowned. Don’t know what the health care bill contains but Medicare is a good model for how bad government healthcare can be. E. Abrahamson, D.C.Chiropractic physicianLake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic315 Second StreetLake Oswego, OR 97034503-635-6246Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.comFrom: Sears <dm.bonesmac>Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:13:31 -0700 Kalb MS DC <johndrkalb>Cc: " D Beebe, D.C." <daniel.beebeverizon (DOT) net>, < >Subject: Re: OT:Mostly Bogus! Constitutional changes from healthcare bill I agree! It doesn't help us as individuals or as a profession to misinform..."According to another Quinnipiac poll <http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1436> released last week, Republicans were far more likely than Democrats to say that they follow public affairs most of the time. But how? They listen to people like Limbaugh, and they’re more likely than others to watch Fox News. But invectives are not information. For example, a poll released on Wednesday <http://people-press.org/report/601/healthcare> by the Pew Research Center found that most Republicans say that they still don’t understand how the new health care reform will affect them and their family.They don’t know what it means, but they believe it’s bad. Rush & Co. said so. In the vacuum of confusion and misinformation, they strum their fears and feed their anxiety. And, by worrying, their faith is made perfect."http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/03/opinion/03blow.html?th & emc=th <http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/03/opinion/03blow.html?th & amp;emc=th> Sears, DC, IAYT1218 NW 21st AvePortland, Oregon 97209v: 503-225-0255f: 503-525-6902www.docbones.comOn Apr 3, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Kalb MS DC wrote:  Snopes only verified that this OPINION BLOG was correctly attributed to some retired attorney named Connelly. Other constitutional attorneys have given the opinion that Obamacare is constitutional.So what else is new? Some of the preposterous and inflammatory claims in the article are obviously false, like free abortions. I think it's a disservice to our profession to pass something like this along even as an OT post. jk M. Kalb MS DCThe Wellness Chiropractor and Health Coachwww.DrKalb.com <http://www.DrKalb.com> 541.488.3001/888.488.3001 OT Constitutional changes from healthcare bill  This is quick, well written, and informative. No matter which side you are on, you should read it before you form an opinion. You might be surprised. Snopes verified that this is truly from Connelly. http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/connelly.asp The Truth About the Health Care Act Connelly - Ret. Constitutional Law Attorney Well, I've done it! I have read the entire text of proposed House Bill 3200: The Affordable Health Care Choices Act of 2009. I studied it with particular emphasis from my area of expertise, constitutional law. I was frankly concerned that parts of the proposed law might be unconstitutional. What I found was far worse than what I had heard or expected. To begin with, much of what has been said about the law and its implications is in fact true, despite what the Democrats and the media are saying. The law does provide for rationing of health care, particularly where senior citizens and other classes of citizens are involved, free health care for illegal immigrants, free abortion services, and probably forced participation in abortions by members of the medical profession. The Bill will also eventually force private insurance companies out of business, and put everyone into a government run system. All decisions about personal health care will ultimately be made by federal bureaucrats, and most of them will not be health care professionals. Hospital admissions, payments to physicians, and allocations of necessary medical devices will be strictly controlled by the government. However, as scary as all of that is, it just scratches the surface. In fact, I have concluded that this legislation really has no intention of providing affordable health care choices. Instead it is a convenient cover for the most massive transfer of power to the Executive Branch of government that has ever occurred, or even been contemplated. If this law or a similar one is adopted, major portions of the Constitution of the United States will effectively have been destroyed. The first thing to go will be the masterfully crafted balance of power between the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of the U.S. Government. The Congress will be transferring to the Obama Administration authority in a number of different areas over the lives of the American people, and the businesses they own. The irony is that the Congress doesn't have any authority to legislate in most of those areas to begin with! I defy anyone to read the text of the U.S. Constitution and find any authority granted to the members of Congress to regulate health care. This legislation also provides for access, by the appointees of the Obama administration, to all of your personal healthcare and financial information, and personal information from your employer, physician and hospital: a direct violation of the specific provisions of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution, which provides protection against unreasonable searches and seizures. You can also forget about the right to privacy. That will have been legislated into oblivion regardless of what the 3rd and 4th Amendments may provide. If you decide not to have healthcare insurance or if you have private insurance that is not deemed acceptable to the Health Choices Administrator appointed by Obama, there will be a tax imposed on you. It is called a tax instead of a fine because of the intent to avoid application of the due process clause of the 5th Amendment. There is nothing in the Health Care Bill that allows you to contest or appeal the imposition of the tax; which deprives us of property without the due process of law. Three amendments out of the original ten in the Bill of Rights, are effectively nullified by this Health Care Act. Under the provisions of this piece of Congressional handiwork neither the people nor the states are going to have any rights or powers at all in many areas that once were theirs to control. I could write many more pages about this legislation, but I think you get the idea. This is not about health care; it is about seizing power and limiting rights. Article 6 of the Constitution requires the members of both houses of Congress to "be bound by oath or affirmation to support the Constitution." If I was a member of Congress I would not be able to vote for this legislation or anything like it without feeling I was violating that sacred oath or affirmation. If I voted for it anyway, I would hope the American people would hold me accountable. For those who might doubt the nature of this threat, I suggest they consult the source, the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights. There you can see exactly what we are about to have taken from us. Connelly Retired Attorney, Constitutional Law Instructor Carrollton , Texas WE MUST HOLD CONGRESS ACCOUNTABLE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE! FORWARD THIS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW! God Bless America ! Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. <http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/> No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> Version: 9.0.800 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2785 - Release Date: 04/01/10 23:32:00

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Dr ,Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light for my path. dm.bones@...; john@...CC: daniel.beebe@...; From: drscott@...Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:47:13 -0700Subject: Re: OT:Mostly Bogus! Constitutional changes from healthcare bill Research done on Hurricane Katrina victims found that they admitted that they knew that the storm bearing down upon them was “bad†but they didn’t understand it thoroughly enough to respond appropriately. While gathering information to make a more comprehensive decision, several of them drowned. Don’t know what the health care bill contains but Medicare is a good model for how bad government healthcare can be. E. Abrahamson, D.C.Chiropractic physicianLake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic315 Second StreetLake Oswego, OR 97034503-635-6246Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.comFrom: Sears <dm.bonesmac>Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:13:31 -0700 Kalb MS DC <johndrkalb>Cc: " D Beebe, D.C." <daniel.beebeverizon (DOT) net>, < >Subject: Re: OT:Mostly Bogus! Constitutional changes from healthcare bill I agree! It doesn't help us as individuals or as a profession to misinform..."According to another Quinnipiac poll <http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1436> released last week, Republicans were far more likely than Democrats to say that they follow public affairs most of the time. But how? They listen to people like Limbaugh, and they’re more likely than others to watch Fox News. But invectives are not information. For example, a poll released on Wednesday <http://people-press.org/report/601/healthcare> by the Pew Research Center found that most Republicans say that they still don’t understand how the new health care reform will affect them and their family.They don’t know what it means, but they believe it’s bad. Rush & Co. said so. In the vacuum of confusion and misinformation, they strum their fears and feed their anxiety. And, by worrying, their faith is made perfect."http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/03/opinion/03blow.html?th & emc=th <http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/03/opinion/03blow.html?th & amp;emc=th> Sears, DC, IAYT1218 NW 21st AvePortland, Oregon 97209v: 503-225-0255f: 503-525-6902www.docbones.comOn Apr 3, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Kalb MS DC wrote:  Snopes only verified that this OPINION BLOG was correctly attributed to some retired attorney named Connelly. Other constitutional attorneys have given the opinion that Obamacare is constitutional.So what else is new? Some of the preposterous and inflammatory claims in the article are obviously false, like free abortions. I think it's a disservice to our profession to pass something like this along even as an OT post. jk M. Kalb MS DCThe Wellness Chiropractor and Health Coachwww.DrKalb.com <http://www.DrKalb.com> 541.488.3001/888.488.3001 OT Constitutional changes from healthcare bill  This is quick, well written, and informative. No matter which side you are on, you should read it before you form an opinion. You might be surprised. Snopes verified that this is truly from Connelly. http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/connelly.asp The Truth About the Health Care Act Connelly - Ret. Constitutional Law Attorney Well, I've done it! I have read the entire text of proposed House Bill 3200: The Affordable Health Care Choices Act of 2009. I studied it with particular emphasis from my area of expertise, constitutional law. I was frankly concerned that parts of the proposed law might be unconstitutional. What I found was far worse than what I had heard or expected. To begin with, much of what has been said about the law and its implications is in fact true, despite what the Democrats and the media are saying. The law does provide for rationing of health care, particularly where senior citizens and other classes of citizens are involved, free health care for illegal immigrants, free abortion services, and probably forced participation in abortions by members of the medical profession. The Bill will also eventually force private insurance companies out of business, and put everyone into a government run system. All decisions about personal health care will ultimately be made by federal bureaucrats, and most of them will not be health care professionals. Hospital admissions, payments to physicians, and allocations of necessary medical devices will be strictly controlled by the government. However, as scary as all of that is, it just scratches the surface. In fact, I have concluded that this legislation really has no intention of providing affordable health care choices. Instead it is a convenient cover for the most massive transfer of power to the Executive Branch of government that has ever occurred, or even been contemplated. If this law or a similar one is adopted, major portions of the Constitution of the United States will effectively have been destroyed. The first thing to go will be the masterfully crafted balance of power between the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of the U.S. Government. The Congress will be transferring to the Obama Administration authority in a number of different areas over the lives of the American people, and the businesses they own. The irony is that the Congress doesn't have any authority to legislate in most of those areas to begin with! I defy anyone to read the text of the U.S. Constitution and find any authority granted to the members of Congress to regulate health care. This legislation also provides for access, by the appointees of the Obama administration, to all of your personal healthcare and financial information, and personal information from your employer, physician and hospital: a direct violation of the specific provisions of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution, which provides protection against unreasonable searches and seizures. You can also forget about the right to privacy. That will have been legislated into oblivion regardless of what the 3rd and 4th Amendments may provide. If you decide not to have healthcare insurance or if you have private insurance that is not deemed acceptable to the Health Choices Administrator appointed by Obama, there will be a tax imposed on you. It is called a tax instead of a fine because of the intent to avoid application of the due process clause of the 5th Amendment. There is nothing in the Health Care Bill that allows you to contest or appeal the imposition of the tax; which deprives us of property without the due process of law. Three amendments out of the original ten in the Bill of Rights, are effectively nullified by this Health Care Act. Under the provisions of this piece of Congressional handiwork neither the people nor the states are going to have any rights or powers at all in many areas that once were theirs to control. I could write many more pages about this legislation, but I think you get the idea. This is not about health care; it is about seizing power and limiting rights. Article 6 of the Constitution requires the members of both houses of Congress to "be bound by oath or affirmation to support the Constitution." If I was a member of Congress I would not be able to vote for this legislation or anything like it without feeling I was violating that sacred oath or affirmation. If I voted for it anyway, I would hope the American people would hold me accountable. For those who might doubt the nature of this threat, I suggest they consult the source, the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights. There you can see exactly what we are about to have taken from us. Connelly Retired Attorney, Constitutional Law Instructor Carrollton , Texas WE MUST HOLD CONGRESS ACCOUNTABLE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE! FORWARD THIS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW! God Bless America ! Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. <http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/> No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> Version: 9.0.800 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2785 - Release Date: 04/01/10 23:32:00