RE: Endocrine disrupters

March 9, 2010

And in my humble opinion- coconut milk tastes the best. Ann Goldeen

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March 9, 2010

My understanding is that,"hemp" products do NOT contain THC. Thus, associating hemp with marijuana is erroneous. (:-)

RR.

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March 9, 2010

My understanding is that,"hemp" products do NOT contain THC. Thus, associating hemp with marijuana is erroneous. (:-)

RR.

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March 9, 2010

And how many over diagnosed and poorly understood conditions are there? I believe gluten sensitivity is one of them and in fact is the latest fad. One goes into any ND nowadays and they walk out with the "gluten sensitivity" diagnosis.Your'e trying to tell me that i've got a sensitivity and yet i'm healthy as an ox and have no symptoms? And this is all due to the fact that we are genetically not made to consume it? Sorry, i'm drinking that kool aid. Sounds more like someone is trying to sell a book. I think it used to be yeast and now it's gluten.

"Eating a wide variety of vegetables, fruits, nuts, natural oils, meats and fish is a fad diet? How so?"

It is a fad and extreme because you are ELIMINATING carbs. This diet with some whole grain would be a nice balance. Our bodies aren't biochemically made to run without some carbohydrate. Tons of white bread no, but good whole grain wheat, yes. Have we forgotten the Kreb's cycle and our biochemistry?

Your example of the food pyramid isn't necessarily balanced is it? You're purposely indicating a diet Laden with simple grains and this wouldn't be prudent either no matter what the food pyramid says.

ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800

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March 9, 2010

And how many over diagnosed and poorly understood conditions are there? I believe gluten sensitivity is one of them and in fact is the latest fad. One goes into any ND nowadays and they walk out with the "gluten sensitivity" diagnosis.Your'e trying to tell me that i've got a sensitivity and yet i'm healthy as an ox and have no symptoms? And this is all due to the fact that we are genetically not made to consume it? Sorry, i'm drinking that kool aid. Sounds more like someone is trying to sell a book. I think it used to be yeast and now it's gluten.

"Eating a wide variety of vegetables, fruits, nuts, natural oils, meats and fish is a fad diet? How so?"

It is a fad and extreme because you are ELIMINATING carbs. This diet with some whole grain would be a nice balance. Our bodies aren't biochemically made to run without some carbohydrate. Tons of white bread no, but good whole grain wheat, yes. Have we forgotten the Kreb's cycle and our biochemistry?

Your example of the food pyramid isn't necessarily balanced is it? You're purposely indicating a diet Laden with simple grains and this wouldn't be prudent either no matter what the food pyramid says.

ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800

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March 9, 2010

Perception is everything...according to researcher Cheech .

On 3/9/10 11:55 AM, " Rodney G. , DC " <rjacksondc@...> wrote:

And, apparently, hemp seed protein is one of the most complete vegetable sources of protein available. Unless all those old hippie entrepreneurs out there are just blowing smoke.....

Rod , DC

Rodney G. , DC

Tillamook Natural Health Center

309 Laurel Ave.

Tillamook, OR 97141

503-842-6532

Endocrine disrupters

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March 9, 2010

Perception is everything...according to researcher Cheech .

On 3/9/10 11:55 AM, " Rodney G. , DC " <rjacksondc@...> wrote:

And, apparently, hemp seed protein is one of the most complete vegetable sources of protein available. Unless all those old hippie entrepreneurs out there are just blowing smoke.....

Rod , DC

Rodney G. , DC

Tillamook Natural Health Center

309 Laurel Ave.

Tillamook, OR 97141

503-842-6532

Endocrine disrupters

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March 9, 2010

Sunny,

RE, “coconut milks win hands down”.

I think the term you are looking for, and I think I speak for all palm trees who have no voice, is “nuts down”.

It just had to be said.

E. Abrahamson, D.C.

Chiropractic physician

Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic

315 Second Street

Lake Oswego, OR 97034

503-635-6246

Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com

On 3/9/10 2:29 PM, " Sunny Kierstyn " <skrndc1@...> wrote:

the 'sensationalism' surrounding discussions about marijuana and hemp products tend to distract from the issues. It is an herbal product with an enormous to contribute to societal needs. More importantly however, is its contribution to foods.

HOWEVER, in a discussion about plant milks, regarding their superiority and benefical contributions to the human system, coconut milks win hands down. That oil is so very beneficial to the human system and has less calories and carbs than others.

my 2 cents

Sunny ;'-))

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC

Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon

2677 Willakenzie Road, 7C

Eugene, Oregon, 97401

541- 654-0850; Fx; 541- 654-0834

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From: spinetree@...

Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 12:44:28 -0800

Subject: Re: Endocrine disrupters

Hemp and specifically Marijuana are NOT foreign substances. These are natural plant products that have a wide variety of benefits and have been used by humans for eons without any evidence of endocrine onslaught when used moderately. I'd like to know the science behind and the studies that you seem to derive that opinion. Nonetheless, No deaths or overdoses have EVER been documented. Too much of many many things can kill us that are deemed safe and natural. Ironically Marijuana is something that it appears no matter the doseage cannot kill you. It alone has NEVER killed anyone. Doesnt get much more natural than that. Think about that. Even water can kill in copious amounts.

The one problem i have with the " caveman " diet and the like is that it seems to not take in to consideration that man has evolved. However, a balanced diet including real whole food as well as exercise is indeed the way to go in my opinion as well.

ph Medlin D.C.

Spine Tree Chiropractic

1607 NE Alberta St

PDX, OR 97211

503-788-6800

Endocrine disrupters

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March 9, 2010

Sunny,

RE, “coconut milks win hands down”.

I think the term you are looking for, and I think I speak for all palm trees who have no voice, is “nuts down”.

It just had to be said.

E. Abrahamson, D.C.

Chiropractic physician

Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic

315 Second Street

Lake Oswego, OR 97034

503-635-6246

Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com

On 3/9/10 2:29 PM, " Sunny Kierstyn " <skrndc1@...> wrote:

the 'sensationalism' surrounding discussions about marijuana and hemp products tend to distract from the issues. It is an herbal product with an enormous to contribute to societal needs. More importantly however, is its contribution to foods.

HOWEVER, in a discussion about plant milks, regarding their superiority and benefical contributions to the human system, coconut milks win hands down. That oil is so very beneficial to the human system and has less calories and carbs than others.

my 2 cents

Sunny ;'-))

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC

Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon

2677 Willakenzie Road, 7C

Eugene, Oregon, 97401

541- 654-0850; Fx; 541- 654-0834

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From: spinetree@...

Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 12:44:28 -0800

Subject: Re: Endocrine disrupters

Hemp and specifically Marijuana are NOT foreign substances. These are natural plant products that have a wide variety of benefits and have been used by humans for eons without any evidence of endocrine onslaught when used moderately. I'd like to know the science behind and the studies that you seem to derive that opinion. Nonetheless, No deaths or overdoses have EVER been documented. Too much of many many things can kill us that are deemed safe and natural. Ironically Marijuana is something that it appears no matter the doseage cannot kill you. It alone has NEVER killed anyone. Doesnt get much more natural than that. Think about that. Even water can kill in copious amounts.

The one problem i have with the " caveman " diet and the like is that it seems to not take in to consideration that man has evolved. However, a balanced diet including real whole food as well as exercise is indeed the way to go in my opinion as well.

ph Medlin D.C.

Spine Tree Chiropractic

1607 NE Alberta St

PDX, OR 97211

503-788-6800

Endocrine disrupters

Dr. Cohen et al, Take a look at this :

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35315651/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/

s. fuchs dc

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March 9, 2010

I'm glad you are healthy as an ox. Regarding fruits and vegies, they are mostly carbs. With regards to the biological need for external carbs you are wrong. There is no such thing as an essential carb; essential fats, yes; essential amino acids yes; carbs? we can make it via gluconeogenesis. Inuits lived on no external carbs except the glycogen from the meat they ate. I don't eat this way or promote such a diet but it worked for them. They were in constant ketosis (which is not dangerous, it just means they were burning fat for fuel, not carbs). Everything I have just stated is in the books and studies I have referenced. It is not opinion. Perhaps gluten insensitivity is overblown, I don't know. That doesn't change the view that simple carbs are not the best fuel for the human species. By the way, I'm not selling a book. Seitz, DC Tuality Physicians 730-D SE Oak St Hillsboro, OR 97123 (503)640-3724 ; dcdocbrian@...From: spinetree@...Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:21:19 -0800Subject: Re: Endocrine disrupters

And how many over diagnosed and poorly understood conditions are there? I believe gluten sensitivity is one of them and in fact is the latest fad. One goes into any ND nowadays and they walk out with the "gluten sensitivity" diagnosis.Your'e trying to tell me that i've got a sensitivity and yet i'm healthy as an ox and have no symptoms? And this is all due to the fact that we are genetically not made to consume it? Sorry, i'm drinking that kool aid. Sounds more like someone is trying to sell a book. I think it used to be yeast and now it's gluten.

"Eating a wide variety of vegetables, fruits, nuts, natural oils, meats and fish is a fad diet? How so?"

It is a fad and extreme because you are ELIMINATING carbs. This diet with some whole grain would be a nice balance. Our bodies aren't biochemically made to run without some carbohydrate. Tons of white bread no, but good whole grain wheat, yes. Have we forgotten the Kreb's cycle and our biochemistry?

Your example of the food pyramid isn't necessarily balanced is it? You're purposely indicating a diet Laden with simple grains and this wouldn't be prudent either no matter what the food pyramid says.

ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800

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March 9, 2010

I'm glad you are healthy as an ox. Regarding fruits and vegies, they are mostly carbs. With regards to the biological need for external carbs you are wrong. There is no such thing as an essential carb; essential fats, yes; essential amino acids yes; carbs? we can make it via gluconeogenesis. Inuits lived on no external carbs except the glycogen from the meat they ate. I don't eat this way or promote such a diet but it worked for them. They were in constant ketosis (which is not dangerous, it just means they were burning fat for fuel, not carbs). Everything I have just stated is in the books and studies I have referenced. It is not opinion. Perhaps gluten insensitivity is overblown, I don't know. That doesn't change the view that simple carbs are not the best fuel for the human species. By the way, I'm not selling a book. Seitz, DC Tuality Physicians 730-D SE Oak St Hillsboro, OR 97123 (503)640-3724 ; dcdocbrian@...From: spinetree@...Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:21:19 -0800Subject: Re: Endocrine disrupters

And how many over diagnosed and poorly understood conditions are there? I believe gluten sensitivity is one of them and in fact is the latest fad. One goes into any ND nowadays and they walk out with the "gluten sensitivity" diagnosis.Your'e trying to tell me that i've got a sensitivity and yet i'm healthy as an ox and have no symptoms? And this is all due to the fact that we are genetically not made to consume it? Sorry, i'm drinking that kool aid. Sounds more like someone is trying to sell a book. I think it used to be yeast and now it's gluten.

"Eating a wide variety of vegetables, fruits, nuts, natural oils, meats and fish is a fad diet? How so?"

It is a fad and extreme because you are ELIMINATING carbs. This diet with some whole grain would be a nice balance. Our bodies aren't biochemically made to run without some carbohydrate. Tons of white bread no, but good whole grain wheat, yes. Have we forgotten the Kreb's cycle and our biochemistry?

Your example of the food pyramid isn't necessarily balanced is it? You're purposely indicating a diet Laden with simple grains and this wouldn't be prudent either no matter what the food pyramid says.

ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800

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March 10, 2010

Re: “It is a fad and extreme because you are ELIMINATING carbs. This diet with some whole grain would be a nice balance. Our bodies aren't biochemically made to run without some carbohydrate. Tons of white bread no, but good whole grain wheat, yes. Have we forgotten the Kreb's cycle and our biochemistry?”

Let’s see if we can find any non grain carbs in the:

List of (Low) Carbohydrate Containing Foods

Dairy

• heavy cream

full-fat cheeses butter full-fat sour cream cream cheese

Vegetables

leafy greens cruciferous vegetables such as cauliflower and broccoli (in moderate amounts) summer squashes such as zucchini and yellow squash artichokes peppers onions (1/2 small onion) sprouts celery mushrooms asparagus green beans jicama sea vegetables leeks eggplant spaghetti squash pumpkin

Fruits

Fruits in limited amounts can be part of a healthy low-carb diet plan. Limit daily intake if indicated.

strawberries (one to two ounces) blueberries (one to two ounces) blackberries (one to two ounces) canteloupe (one to two ounces) rhubarb peaches (1/2 peach) nectarines (1/2 nectarine) avocado tomatoes squeeze of lemon or lime juice olives (one to two ounces)

Nuts and Seeds

Nuts and seeds are a great snack food for low carb diet plans; however, quantity matters. Limit daily intake to one to two ounces unless indicated otherwise. All nuts should be either raw or dry roasted, and beware of honey-roasted or other added sugar.

flax seed (Two tablespoons) sunflower seeds <http://vegetarian.lovetoknow.com/Can_You_Eat_Too_Many_Sunflower_Seeds>

cashews peanuts almonds unsweetened coconut (or coconut milk) macadamia nuts walnuts pecans pine nuts pistachios nut butter (one tablespoon)

Herbs and Spices

Herbs and spices are generally low carbohydrate foods. Limit to one to two tablespoons. Below is a partial list of low carbohydrate herbs and spices.

basil oregano rosemary thyme garlic <http://herbs.lovetoknow.com/Garlic> pepper cumin chili powder turmeric tarragon

Sauces and Condiments

There are a number of jarred sauces that can be used as a part of a low carbohydrate diet in limited amounts. Limit quantities if indicated below. Check for added sugar and avoid those that have sugar in any form.

salsa (1/4 cup) marinara sauce (1/4 cup) hot sauce (2 tablespoons) broth (2 cups) mayonnaise (2 tablespoons) salad dressing (2 tablespoons) mustard (2 teaspoons) tartar sauce (2 tablespoons)

More Articles

March 10, 2010

WOW! Enlightening. You're smart. Are you a doctor? That was a lot of effort to state the obvious. Yes, I'm aware that there are some carbs in those items. What I meant was he eliminated carbs from grain sources. Thats the fad. Eliminating Whole Grains is not the answer and any study you show that says that, theres a study that says the opposite.

What happened to the Atkins diet by the way?

Balance and moderation.

ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800

Re: Endocrine disrupters

Re: “It is a fad and extreme because you are ELIMINATING carbs. This diet with some whole grain would be a nice balance. Our bodies aren't biochemically made to run without some carbohydrate. Tons of white bread no, but good whole grain wheat, yes. Have we forgotten the Kreb's cycle and our biochemistry?”Let’s see if we can find any non grain carbs in the:List of (Low) Carbohydrate Containing FoodsDairy • heavy cream

full-fat cheeses

butter

full-fat sour cream

cream cheese Vegetables

leafy greens

cruciferous vegetables such as cauliflower and broccoli (in moderate amounts)

summer squashes such as zucchini and yellow squash

artichokes

peppers

onions (1/2 small onion)

sprouts

celery

mushrooms

asparagus

green beans

jicama

sea vegetables

leeks

eggplant

spaghetti squash

pumpkin FruitsFruits in limited amounts can be part of a healthy low-carb diet plan. Limit daily intake if indicated.

strawberries (one to two ounces)

blueberries (one to two ounces)

blackberries (one to two ounces)

canteloupe (one to two ounces)

rhubarb

peaches (1/2 peach)

nectarines (1/2 nectarine)

avocado

tomatoes

squeeze of lemon or lime juice

olives (one to two ounces) Nuts and SeedsNuts and seeds are a great snack food for low carb diet plans; however, quantity matters. Limit daily intake to one to two ounces unless indicated otherwise. All nuts should be either raw or dry roasted, and beware of honey-roasted or other added sugar.

flax seed (Two tablespoons)

sunflower seeds <http://vegetarian.lovetoknow.com/Can_You_Eat_Too_Many_Sunflower_Seeds>

cashews

peanuts

almonds

unsweetened coconut (or coconut milk)

macadamia nuts

walnuts

pecans

pine nuts

pistachios

nut butter (one tablespoon) Herbs and SpicesHerbs and spices are generally low carbohydrate foods. Limit to one to two tablespoons. Below is a partial list of low carbohydrate herbs and spices.

basil

oregano

rosemary

thyme

garlic <http://herbs.lovetoknow.com/Garlic>

pepper

cumin

chili powder

turmeric

tarragon Sauces and CondimentsThere are a number of jarred sauces that can be used as a part of a low carbohydrate diet in limited amounts. Limit quantities if indicated below. Check for added sugar and avoid those that have sugar in any form.

salsa (1/4 cup)

marinara sauce (1/4 cup)

hot sauce (2 tablespoons)

broth (2 cups)

mayonnaise (2 tablespoons)

salad dressing (2 tablespoons)

mustard (2 teaspoons)

tartar sauce (2 tablespoons) More Articles

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Low Carb Breakfasts <http://diet.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Low_Carb_Breakfasts>

Carbohydrates List <http://diet.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Carbohydrates_List>

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Low Carb and Loving It <http://diet.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Low_Carb_and_Loving_It>

Low Carb Dessert Recipes <http://diet.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Low_Carb_Dessert_Recipes>

Foods You Can Eat on a Low Carb Diet <http://diet.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Foods_You_Can_Eat_on_a_Low_Carb_Diet>

March 10, 2010

WOW! Enlightening. You're smart. Are you a doctor? That was a lot of effort to state the obvious. Yes, I'm aware that there are some carbs in those items. What I meant was he eliminated carbs from grain sources. Thats the fad. Eliminating Whole Grains is not the answer and any study you show that says that, theres a study that says the opposite.

What happened to the Atkins diet by the way?

Balance and moderation.

ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800

Re: Endocrine disrupters

Re: “It is a fad and extreme because you are ELIMINATING carbs. This diet with some whole grain would be a nice balance. Our bodies aren't biochemically made to run without some carbohydrate. Tons of white bread no, but good whole grain wheat, yes. Have we forgotten the Kreb's cycle and our biochemistry?”Let’s see if we can find any non grain carbs in the:List of (Low) Carbohydrate Containing FoodsDairy • heavy cream

full-fat cheeses

butter

full-fat sour cream

cream cheese Vegetables

leafy greens

cruciferous vegetables such as cauliflower and broccoli (in moderate amounts)

summer squashes such as zucchini and yellow squash

artichokes

peppers

onions (1/2 small onion)

sprouts

celery

mushrooms

asparagus

green beans

jicama

sea vegetables

leeks

eggplant

spaghetti squash

pumpkin FruitsFruits in limited amounts can be part of a healthy low-carb diet plan. Limit daily intake if indicated.

strawberries (one to two ounces)

blueberries (one to two ounces)

blackberries (one to two ounces)

canteloupe (one to two ounces)

rhubarb

peaches (1/2 peach)

nectarines (1/2 nectarine)

avocado

tomatoes

squeeze of lemon or lime juice

olives (one to two ounces) Nuts and SeedsNuts and seeds are a great snack food for low carb diet plans; however, quantity matters. Limit daily intake to one to two ounces unless indicated otherwise. All nuts should be either raw or dry roasted, and beware of honey-roasted or other added sugar.

flax seed (Two tablespoons)

sunflower seeds <http://vegetarian.lovetoknow.com/Can_You_Eat_Too_Many_Sunflower_Seeds>

cashews

peanuts

almonds

unsweetened coconut (or coconut milk)

macadamia nuts

walnuts

pecans

pine nuts

pistachios

nut butter (one tablespoon) Herbs and SpicesHerbs and spices are generally low carbohydrate foods. Limit to one to two tablespoons. Below is a partial list of low carbohydrate herbs and spices.

basil

oregano

rosemary

thyme

garlic <http://herbs.lovetoknow.com/Garlic>

pepper

cumin

chili powder

turmeric

tarragon Sauces and CondimentsThere are a number of jarred sauces that can be used as a part of a low carbohydrate diet in limited amounts. Limit quantities if indicated below. Check for added sugar and avoid those that have sugar in any form.

salsa (1/4 cup)

marinara sauce (1/4 cup)

hot sauce (2 tablespoons)

broth (2 cups)

mayonnaise (2 tablespoons)

salad dressing (2 tablespoons)

mustard (2 teaspoons)

tartar sauce (2 tablespoons) More Articles

Carbohydrate Calculator <http://diet.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Carbohydrate_Calculator>

Low Carb Breakfasts <http://diet.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Low_Carb_Breakfasts>

Carbohydrates List <http://diet.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Carbohydrates_List>

Examples of Low Carb Foods <http://diet.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Examples_of_Low_Carb_Foods>

Low Carb Smoothie Recipes <http://diet.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Low_Carb_Smoothie_Recipes>

Low Carb and Loving It <http://diet.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Low_Carb_and_Loving_It>

Low Carb Dessert Recipes <http://diet.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Low_Carb_Dessert_Recipes>

Foods You Can Eat on a Low Carb Diet <http://diet.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Foods_You_Can_Eat_on_a_Low_Carb_Diet>

March 10, 2010

And asians have thrived and still do on a high amount of rice. I wouldn't eat that way, but it's worked for them. The italians and their pasta, the ancient egyptians and middle east with their breads.

We do need external carbs for optimal health and to avoid ketosis. Essential? perhaps not. Desireable, yes.

Balance is best.

All your studies can be refuted. They aren't fact.

ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800

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March 10, 2010

And asians have thrived and still do on a high amount of rice. I wouldn't eat that way, but it's worked for them. The italians and their pasta, the ancient egyptians and middle east with their breads.

We do need external carbs for optimal health and to avoid ketosis. Essential? perhaps not. Desireable, yes.

Balance is best.

All your studies can be refuted. They aren't fact.

ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800

Endocrine disrupters Dr. Cohen et al, Take a look at this :http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35315651/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/ s. fuchs dc

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Vegetables and fruits are mostly carbohydrate. They are not caloric dense but they have other nutrients. They are an excellent source of energy for the most part. High level athletes do need more energy and benefit from more caloric dense foods during extended endurance events or post workout to restore glycogen stores, thus the oranges and bananas at the end of the races (although not necessary for most). But this is really "apples an oranges", because most of us are not high level athletes. You seem to have a fear of ketosis. The body doesn't (see the attached study). I've attached another opinion article by a German physician who is a low, low carb advocate for treatment of a wide variety of complaints. Problem is he wrote a book and obviously this article is just to sell his book. Fact is, I don't agree with hypothesis, but it supports your evolutionary beliefs. Still, apparently his clinical works or he wouldn't have continued on for his many years. If your interested, his book is "Live without bread". Just because we learned things a certain way when we were in school doesn't mean it was right. I'm sure you could cite may instances of this.Just 200 years ago we didn't eat near the amount of carbs we do now. No supermarkets, no hamburger helper, cheetos, frozen dinners or breakfast cereal. Gruel from oats or sorghum maybe, but no cheerios, frosted flakes or wheaties. Breakfast was typically pork. Was that healthy? Probably not but that doesn't make processed carbs great. Seitz, DC Tuality Physicians 730-D SE Oak St Hillsboro, OR 97123 (503)640-3724From: spinetree@...To: drscott@...; dcdocbrian@...Subject: Re: Endocrine disruptersDate: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:53:34 -0800

Re: Endocrine disrupters

Yes, follow along. Thats been the topic of the conversation.

Again, thanks for your laborious attempt to educate a fellow doctor on nutrition 101. No patronization taken.

Fact is , those sources have minimal amount of carbs in them. Certainly not enough to gas the engine of a power athlete or even a daily exerciser or in my opinion a generally healthy active person.They'll turn Ketonic quickly.

It would be interesting to poll some of our best athletes in the world: Cross country skiiers, Marathon runners, Olympians etc to see how they prepare (dietwise) for the big upcoming event. I suspect they attain their carbs from things other than Cream Cheese, Peppers, Leafy Greens, Tomatoes or Basil.

ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800

Re: Endocrine disrupters Re: “It is a fad and extreme because you are ELIMINATING carbs. This diet with some whole grain would be a nice balance. Our bodies aren't biochemically made to run without some carbohydrate. Tons of white bread no, but good whole grain wheat, yes. Have we forgotten the Kreb's cycle and our biochemistry?”Let’s see if we can find any non grain carbs in the:List of (Low) Carbohydrate Containing FoodsDairy • heavy cream

full-fat cheeses

butter

full-fat sour cream

cream cheese Vegetables

leafy greens

cruciferous vegetables such as cauliflower and broccoli (in moderate amounts)

summer squashes such as zucchini and yellow squash

artichokes

peppers

onions (1/2 small onion)

sprouts

celery

mushrooms

asparagus

green beans

jicama

sea vegetables

leeks

eggplant

spaghetti squash

pumpkin FruitsFruits in limited amounts can be part of a healthy low-carb diet plan. Limit daily intake if indicated.

strawberries (one to two ounces)

blueberries (one to two ounces)

blackberries (one to two ounces)

canteloupe (one to two ounces)

rhubarb

peaches (1/2 peach)

nectarines (1/2 nectarine)

avocado

tomatoes

squeeze of lemon or lime juice

olives (one to two ounces) Nuts and SeedsNuts and seeds are a great snack food for low carb diet plans; however, quantity matters. Limit daily intake to one to two ounces unless indicated otherwise. All nuts should be either raw or dry roasted, and beware of honey-roasted or other added sugar.

flax seed (Two tablespoons)

sunflower seeds <http://vegetarian.lovetoknow.com/Can_You_Eat_Too_Many_Sunflower_Seeds>

cashews

peanuts

almonds

unsweetened coconut (or coconut milk)

macadamia nuts

walnuts

pecans

pine nuts

pistachios

nut butter (one tablespoon) Herbs and SpicesHerbs and spices are generally low carbohydrate foods. Limit to one to two tablespoons. Below is a partial list of low carbohydrate herbs and spices.

basil

oregano

rosemary

thyme

garlic <http://herbs.lovetoknow.com/Garlic>

pepper

cumin

chili powder

turmeric

tarragon Sauces and CondimentsThere are a number of jarred sauces that can be used as a part of a low carbohydrate diet in limited amounts. Limit quantities if indicated below. Check for added sugar and avoid those that have sugar in any form.

salsa (1/4 cup)

marinara sauce (1/4 cup)

hot sauce (2 tablespoons)

broth (2 cups)

mayonnaise (2 tablespoons)

salad dressing (2 tablespoons)

mustard (2 teaspoons)

tartar sauce (2 tablespoons) More Articles

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March 10, 2010

Vegetables and fruits are mostly carbohydrate. They are not caloric dense but they have other nutrients. They are an excellent source of energy for the most part. High level athletes do need more energy and benefit from more caloric dense foods during extended endurance events or post workout to restore glycogen stores, thus the oranges and bananas at the end of the races (although not necessary for most). But this is really "apples an oranges", because most of us are not high level athletes. You seem to have a fear of ketosis. The body doesn't (see the attached study). I've attached another opinion article by a German physician who is a low, low carb advocate for treatment of a wide variety of complaints. Problem is he wrote a book and obviously this article is just to sell his book. Fact is, I don't agree with hypothesis, but it supports your evolutionary beliefs. Still, apparently his clinical works or he wouldn't have continued on for his many years. If your interested, his book is "Live without bread". Just because we learned things a certain way when we were in school doesn't mean it was right. I'm sure you could cite may instances of this.Just 200 years ago we didn't eat near the amount of carbs we do now. No supermarkets, no hamburger helper, cheetos, frozen dinners or breakfast cereal. Gruel from oats or sorghum maybe, but no cheerios, frosted flakes or wheaties. Breakfast was typically pork. Was that healthy? Probably not but that doesn't make processed carbs great. Seitz, DC Tuality Physicians 730-D SE Oak St Hillsboro, OR 97123 (503)640-3724From: spinetree@...To: drscott@...; dcdocbrian@...Subject: Re: Endocrine disruptersDate: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:53:34 -0800

Re: Endocrine disrupters

Yes, follow along. Thats been the topic of the conversation.

Again, thanks for your laborious attempt to educate a fellow doctor on nutrition 101. No patronization taken.

Fact is , those sources have minimal amount of carbs in them. Certainly not enough to gas the engine of a power athlete or even a daily exerciser or in my opinion a generally healthy active person.They'll turn Ketonic quickly.

It would be interesting to poll some of our best athletes in the world: Cross country skiiers, Marathon runners, Olympians etc to see how they prepare (dietwise) for the big upcoming event. I suspect they attain their carbs from things other than Cream Cheese, Peppers, Leafy Greens, Tomatoes or Basil.

ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800

Re: Endocrine disrupters Re: “It is a fad and extreme because you are ELIMINATING carbs. This diet with some whole grain would be a nice balance. Our bodies aren't biochemically made to run without some carbohydrate. Tons of white bread no, but good whole grain wheat, yes. Have we forgotten the Kreb's cycle and our biochemistry?”Let’s see if we can find any non grain carbs in the:List of (Low) Carbohydrate Containing FoodsDairy • heavy cream

full-fat cheeses

butter

full-fat sour cream

cream cheese Vegetables

leafy greens

cruciferous vegetables such as cauliflower and broccoli (in moderate amounts)

summer squashes such as zucchini and yellow squash

artichokes

peppers

onions (1/2 small onion)

sprouts

celery

mushrooms

asparagus

green beans

jicama

sea vegetables

leeks

eggplant

spaghetti squash

pumpkin FruitsFruits in limited amounts can be part of a healthy low-carb diet plan. Limit daily intake if indicated.

strawberries (one to two ounces)

blueberries (one to two ounces)

blackberries (one to two ounces)

canteloupe (one to two ounces)

rhubarb

peaches (1/2 peach)

nectarines (1/2 nectarine)

avocado

tomatoes

squeeze of lemon or lime juice

olives (one to two ounces) Nuts and SeedsNuts and seeds are a great snack food for low carb diet plans; however, quantity matters. Limit daily intake to one to two ounces unless indicated otherwise. All nuts should be either raw or dry roasted, and beware of honey-roasted or other added sugar.

flax seed (Two tablespoons)

sunflower seeds <http://vegetarian.lovetoknow.com/Can_You_Eat_Too_Many_Sunflower_Seeds>

cashews

peanuts

almonds

unsweetened coconut (or coconut milk)

macadamia nuts

walnuts

pecans

pine nuts

pistachios

nut butter (one tablespoon) Herbs and SpicesHerbs and spices are generally low carbohydrate foods. Limit to one to two tablespoons. Below is a partial list of low carbohydrate herbs and spices.

basil

oregano

rosemary

thyme

garlic <http://herbs.lovetoknow.com/Garlic>

pepper

cumin

chili powder

turmeric

tarragon Sauces and CondimentsThere are a number of jarred sauces that can be used as a part of a low carbohydrate diet in limited amounts. Limit quantities if indicated below. Check for added sugar and avoid those that have sugar in any form.

salsa (1/4 cup)

marinara sauce (1/4 cup)

hot sauce (2 tablespoons)

broth (2 cups)

mayonnaise (2 tablespoons)

salad dressing (2 tablespoons)

mustard (2 teaspoons)

tartar sauce (2 tablespoons) More Articles

Carbohydrate Calculator <http://diet.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Carbohydrate_Calculator>

Low Carb Breakfasts <http://diet.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Low_Carb_Breakfasts>

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Lutz_The_Colonisation_of_Europe_and_Our_Western_Diseases[1].pdf

high protein diet problems - where is evidence.pdf

March 10, 2010

Would just like to point out that MANY athletes are strict adherents to the paleolithic diet that Dr. Eades discusses in "Protein Power". In particular, Cross-Fit, with thousands of affiliate gyms accros the country are on board 100 percent with eliminating all grains AND dairy. These guys are athletes in every sense of the word. Does this mean they are right? No. Just means that you can perform at very high levels of sports without grains. Some, would call eating grains a fad when looked at on the evolutionary time-table. Dr Eades is selling books, but he also has a great blog where he takes the time to answer hundreds of posts. Here is a link http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/. Also, some cardiologists are now proponents of eliminating all wheat (whole and refined) to decrease triglyceride and VLDL levels because it seems to have such a potent effect on these indicators of health. Here is a exerpt from one such doctor: "Nutritional strategies can be enormously

effective for reduction of triglycerides and VLDL. In past, low-fat

diets were used to reduce triglycerides but proved miserable failures

that eventually made triglycerides worse. Instead, reduction in

carbohydrates, especially refined carbohydrates, can reduce

triglycerides and VLDL.15 Low-glycemic index foods like proteins and

healthy oils; exercise; weight loss, when appropriate; and adequate

sleep can all contribute to reducing triglycerides and VLDL. One unique

strategy we have used with enormous success is to eliminate all wheat

products (refined and whole grain), along with elimination of

any food made with cornstarch, as well as other high-glycemic index

foods (e.g., fruit drinks, candies, snacks, etc.). This has yielded

drops in triglycerides of hundreds of milligrams."Dr. is an author and cardiologist practicing in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. He is author of the book, Track

your Plaque: The only heart disease prevention program that shows you

how to use the new heart scans to detect, track, and control coronary

plaque. Jay Lindekugel, DCConcordia Chiropractic and Movement Center5425 NE 33rd Ave.Portland Or. 97211From: BRIAN SEITZ <dcdocbrian@...>oregon DCs < >Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 11:29:19 AMSubject: RE: Endocrine disrupters

correction: "LIFE without bread" by Lutz Seitz, DC Tuality Physicians 730-D SE Oak St Hillsboro, OR 97123 (503)640-3724@grou ps.comFrom: dcdocbrianmsn (DOT) comDate: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:23:20 -0800Subject: RE: Endocrine disrupters [2 Attachments]

[Attachment(s) from BRIAN SEITZ included below]

Vegetables and fruits are mostly carbohydrate. They are not caloric dense but they have other nutrients. They are an excellent source of energy for the most part. High level athletes do need more energy and benefit from more caloric dense foods during extended endurance events or post workout to restore glycogen stores, thus the oranges and bananas at the end of the races (although not necessary for most). But this is really "apples an oranges", because most of us are not high level athletes. You seem to have a fear of ketosis. The body doesn't (see the attached study). I've attached another opinion article by a German physician who is a low, low carb advocate for treatment of a wide variety of complaints. Problem is he wrote a book and obviously this article is just to sell his book. Fact is, I don't agree with hypothesis, but it supports your evolutionary beliefs. Still, apparently his clinical works or

he wouldn't have continued on for his many years. If your interested, his book is "Live without bread". Just because we learned things a certain way when we were in school doesn't mean it was right. I'm sure you could cite may instances of this.Just 200 years ago we didn't eat near the amount of carbs we do now. No supermarkets, no hamburger helper, cheetos, frozen dinners or breakfast cereal. Gruel from oats or sorghum maybe, but no cheerios, frosted flakes or wheaties. Breakfast was typically pork. Was that healthy? Probably not but that doesn't make processed carbs great. Seitz, DC Tuality Physicians 730-D SE Oak St Hillsboro, OR 97123 (503)640-3724From: spinetree@qwestoffi ce.netdrscott@lakeoswegoc hiro.com; dcdocbrianmsn (DOT) comSubject: Re: Endocrine disruptersDate: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:53:34 -0800

Yes, follow along. Thats been the topic of the conversation.

Again, thanks for your laborious attempt to educate a fellow doctor on nutrition 101. No patronization taken.

Fact is , those sources have minimal amount of carbs in them. Certainly not enough to gas the engine of a power athlete or even a daily exerciser or in my opinion a generally healthy active person.They' ll turn Ketonic quickly.

It would be interesting to poll some of our best athletes in the world: Cross country skiiers, Marathon runners, Olympians etc to see how they prepare (dietwise) for the big upcoming event. I suspect they attain their carbs from things other than Cream Cheese, Peppers, Leafy Greens, Tomatoes or Basil.

ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800

Re: Endocrine disrupters Re: â€œIt is a fad and extreme because you are ELIMINATING carbs. This diet with some whole grain would be a nice balance. Our bodies aren't biochemically made to run without some carbohydrate. Tons of white bread no, but good whole grain wheat, yes. Have we forgotten the Kreb's cycle and our biochemistry?â€Letâ€™s see if we can find any non grain carbs in the:List of (Low) Carbohydrate Containing FoodsDairy â€¢ heavy cream

full-fat cheeses

butter

full-fat sour cream

cream cheese Vegetables

leafy greens

cruciferous vegetables such as cauliflower and broccoli (in moderate amounts)

summer squashes such as zucchini and yellow squash

artichokes

peppers

onions (1/2 small onion)

sprouts

celery

mushrooms

asparagus

green beans

jicama

sea vegetables

leeks

eggplant

spaghetti squash

pumpkin FruitsFruits in limited amounts can be part of a healthy low-carb diet plan. Limit daily intake if indicated.

strawberries (one to two ounces)

blueberries (one to two ounces)

blackberries (one to two ounces)

canteloupe (one to two ounces)

rhubarb

peaches (1/2 peach)

nectarines (1/2 nectarine)

avocado

tomatoes

squeeze of lemon or lime juice

olives (one to two ounces) Nuts and SeedsNuts and seeds are a great snack food for low carb diet plans; however, quantity matters. Limit daily intake to one to two ounces unless indicated otherwise. All nuts should be either raw or dry roasted, and beware of honey-roasted or other added sugar.

flax seed (Two tablespoons)

sunflower seeds <http://vegetarian. lovetoknow. com/Can_You_ Eat_Too_Many_ Sunflower_ Seeds>

cashews

peanuts

almonds

unsweetened coconut (or coconut milk)

macadamia nuts

walnuts

pecans

pine nuts

pistachios

nut butter (one tablespoon) Herbs and SpicesHerbs and spices are generally low carbohydrate foods. Limit to one to two tablespoons. Below is a partial list of low carbohydrate herbs and spices.

basil

oregano

rosemary

thyme

garlic <http://herbs. lovetoknow. com/Garlic>

pepper

cumin

chili powder

turmeric

tarragon Sauces and CondimentsThere are a number of jarred sauces that can be used as a part of a low carbohydrate diet in limited amounts. Limit quantities if indicated below. Check for added sugar and avoid those that have sugar in any form.

salsa (1/4 cup)

marinara sauce (1/4 cup)

hot sauce (2 tablespoons)

broth (2 cups)

mayonnaise (2 tablespoons)

salad dressing (2 tablespoons)

mustard (2 teaspoons)

tartar sauce (2 tablespoons) More Articles

Carbohydrate Calculator <http://diet. lovetoknow. com/wiki/ Carbohydrate_ Calculator>

Low Carb Breakfasts <http://diet. lovetoknow. com/wiki/ Low_Carb_ Breakfasts>

Carbohydrates List <http://diet. lovetoknow. com/wiki/ Carbohydrates_ List>

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Low Carb Smoothie Recipes <http://diet. lovetoknow. com/wiki/ Low_Carb_ Smoothie_ Recipes>

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