Re: Wellness - Law Allows Direct Access To Physical Therapy

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Yes, if you are practicing like that, then I would say you are wellness-based. Great job! I guess it's a matter of degree and emphasis then. Do your patients come to you mainly for chiropractic care and then get a little lifestyle advice? Or do your patients come to you for a complete wellness solution and get some chiropractic care to help bring their bodies back to balance? I just think many chiropractors, are more heavy on the chiropractic and therapeutic part than on REALLY working with people to help them change their lifestyle. Slowly my office is transitioning from a chiropractic clinic that does some wellness to a wellness clinic that also does chiropractic. I think there is a major difference. I know other chiropractors in Oregon seem to be heading in the same direction. Abrahamson, , Deumling and others come to mind. I know others may have been doing this for years already. They should be applauded.The research is incredibly rich in showing that chronic disease is lifestyle driven. People are suffering and dying of these things all around me in my community. I know I have the answers to prevent that. And the answer is not to adjust them a hundred times over a one year period and then put them on maintenance plan for the rest of their life. The answer is to teach them the truth about how they are unknowingly killing themselves with their lifestyle choices and then show them how they can easily change and begin creating a healthier lifestyle. It is so simple, but so profound.Wellness is NOT a new idea, but the SCIENCE of wellness as disseminated by the likes of Chestnut, DC and Bruce Lipton, PhD is very new and incredibly exciting.Jamey Dyson, DC, CCWPDoctor of Chiropractic (DC)Certified Chiropractic Wellness Practitioner (CCWP)Advanced Chiropractic1295 Wallace Rd NWSalem, OR 97304503-361-3949drjdyson1@... On Jan 28, 2010, at 2:19 PM, joe medlin wrote:Thank you Jamey. Great Response. I believe what i was confusing it with is Straight up Chiropractic or "Subluxation" based chiropractic. Having gone to Life West in the Bay Area, your comment on Turning On the Powahhh, was not lost on me. Verry funny. However, as I remember we were taught very strongly to treat the entire person and to take into consideration diet, exercise mind body spirit on all patients. I think it's impossible to be Chiropractor, Nutritionist, Trainer, Counselor and Clergy all at once, but advising on balanced diet, exercise, stress reduction etc is part of my daily practice and I'd have to say most of ours. Isn't that enough to be called "Wellness Based"? ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800 Law Allows Direct Access To Physical Therapyhttp://www.kptv.com/video/22303478/index.htmlNothing new here but I wonder why it is on this newslink now.s. fuchs dc

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Yes, if you are practicing like that, then I would say you are wellness-based. Great job! I guess it's a matter of degree and emphasis then. Do your patients come to you mainly for chiropractic care and then get a little lifestyle advice? Or do your patients come to you for a complete wellness solution and get some chiropractic care to help bring their bodies back to balance? I just think many chiropractors, are more heavy on the chiropractic and therapeutic part than on REALLY working with people to help them change their lifestyle. Slowly my office is transitioning from a chiropractic clinic that does some wellness to a wellness clinic that also does chiropractic. I think there is a major difference. I know other chiropractors in Oregon seem to be heading in the same direction. Abrahamson, , Deumling and others come to mind. I know others may have been doing this for years already. They should be applauded.The research is incredibly rich in showing that chronic disease is lifestyle driven. People are suffering and dying of these things all around me in my community. I know I have the answers to prevent that. And the answer is not to adjust them a hundred times over a one year period and then put them on maintenance plan for the rest of their life. The answer is to teach them the truth about how they are unknowingly killing themselves with their lifestyle choices and then show them how they can easily change and begin creating a healthier lifestyle. It is so simple, but so profound.Wellness is NOT a new idea, but the SCIENCE of wellness as disseminated by the likes of Chestnut, DC and Bruce Lipton, PhD is very new and incredibly exciting.Jamey Dyson, DC, CCWPDoctor of Chiropractic (DC)Certified Chiropractic Wellness Practitioner (CCWP)Advanced Chiropractic1295 Wallace Rd NWSalem, OR 97304503-361-3949drjdyson1@... On Jan 28, 2010, at 2:19 PM, joe medlin wrote:Thank you Jamey. Great Response. I believe what i was confusing it with is Straight up Chiropractic or "Subluxation" based chiropractic. Having gone to Life West in the Bay Area, your comment on Turning On the Powahhh, was not lost on me. Verry funny. However, as I remember we were taught very strongly to treat the entire person and to take into consideration diet, exercise mind body spirit on all patients. I think it's impossible to be Chiropractor, Nutritionist, Trainer, Counselor and Clergy all at once, but advising on balanced diet, exercise, stress reduction etc is part of my daily practice and I'd have to say most of ours. Isn't that enough to be called "Wellness Based"? ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800 Law Allows Direct Access To Physical Therapyhttp://www.kptv.com/video/22303478/index.htmlNothing new here but I wonder why it is on this newslink now.s. fuchs dc

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As a new doctor and chiropractor ...not to mention older female .... I knew I would have to have some kind of 'gimmick' to keep people coming back .... my solution was to develop my 'one-page lessons': a series of info each person needs to know in order to advance the chiropractic treatments. They are the things that I can not do for the patient but that, if they will do, will increase their healing and decrease the amount of time needed for care. They include the fundamental nutrition, sleep info, exercise info, abbreviated food info sheets, etc. Over the years they have proven invaluable as teaching tools, patient retainment info, good use of my time as far a not needing to review various lessons (just give them another copy).....etc.

Decide what you want to teach your patients and write a one-page sheet about .... if you can't say what you want to say in one page, you need to rethink your lesson.....attention spans are less than that these days. Tell 'em it is the info 'you can't do for them' but will enhance what you DO do for them!

Sunny

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7CEugene, Oregon, 97401541- 654-0850; Fx; 541- 654-0834www.drsunnykierstyn.com

spinetree@...; From: drjdyson1@...Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 07:28:19 -0800Subject: Re: Wellness - Law Allows Direct Access To Physical Therapy

Yes, if you are practicing like that, then I would say you are wellness-based. Great job!

I guess it's a matter of degree and emphasis then. Do your patients come to you mainly for chiropractic care and then get a little lifestyle advice? Or do your patients come to you for a complete wellness solution and get some chiropractic care to help bring their bodies back to balance? I just think many chiropractors, are more heavy on the chiropractic and therapeutic part than on REALLY working with people to help them change their lifestyle.

Slowly my office is transitioning from a chiropractic clinic that does some wellness to a wellness clinic that also does chiropractic. I think there is a major difference. I know other chiropractors in Oregon seem to be heading in the same direction. Abrahamson, , Deumling and others come to mind. I know others may have been doing this for years already. They should be applauded.

The research is incredibly rich in showing that chronic disease is lifestyle driven. People are suffering and dying of these things all around me in my community. I know I have the answers to prevent that. And the answer is not to adjust them a hundred times over a one year period and then put them on maintenance plan for the rest of their life. The answer is to teach them the truth about how they are unknowingly killing themselves with their lifestyle choices and then show them how they can easily change and begin creating a healthier lifestyle. It is so simple, but so profound.

Wellness is NOT a new idea, but the SCIENCE of wellness as disseminated by the likes of Chestnut, DC and Bruce Lipton, PhD is very new and incredibly exciting.

Jamey Dyson, DC, CCWP

Doctor of Chiropractic (DC)

Certified Chiropractic Wellness Practitioner (CCWP)

Advanced Chiropractic

1295 Wallace Rd NW

Salem, OR 97304

503-361-3949

drjdyson1comcast (DOT) net

On Jan 28, 2010, at 2:19 PM, joe medlin wrote:

Thank you Jamey. Great Response.

I believe what i was confusing it with is Straight up Chiropractic or "Subluxation" based chiropractic. Having gone to Life West in the Bay Area, your comment on Turning On the Powahhh, was not lost on me. Verry funny. However, as I remember we were taught very strongly to treat the entire person and to take into consideration diet, exercise mind body spirit on all patients. I think it's impossible to be Chiropractor, Nutritionist, Trainer, Counselor and Clergy all at once, but advising on balanced diet, exercise, stress reduction etc is part of my daily practice and I'd have to say most of ours. Isn't that enough to be called "Wellness Based"?

ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800

Law Allows Direct Access To Physical Therapy

http://www.kptv.com/video/22303478/index.html

Nothing new here but I wonder why it is on this newslink now.

s. fuchs dc

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[Guest guest]

As a new doctor and chiropractor ...not to mention older female .... I knew I would have to have some kind of 'gimmick' to keep people coming back .... my solution was to develop my 'one-page lessons': a series of info each person needs to know in order to advance the chiropractic treatments. They are the things that I can not do for the patient but that, if they will do, will increase their healing and decrease the amount of time needed for care. They include the fundamental nutrition, sleep info, exercise info, abbreviated food info sheets, etc. Over the years they have proven invaluable as teaching tools, patient retainment info, good use of my time as far a not needing to review various lessons (just give them another copy).....etc.

Decide what you want to teach your patients and write a one-page sheet about .... if you can't say what you want to say in one page, you need to rethink your lesson.....attention spans are less than that these days. Tell 'em it is the info 'you can't do for them' but will enhance what you DO do for them!

Sunny

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7CEugene, Oregon, 97401541- 654-0850; Fx; 541- 654-0834www.drsunnykierstyn.com

spinetree@...; From: drjdyson1@...Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 07:28:19 -0800Subject: Re: Wellness - Law Allows Direct Access To Physical Therapy

Yes, if you are practicing like that, then I would say you are wellness-based. Great job!

I guess it's a matter of degree and emphasis then. Do your patients come to you mainly for chiropractic care and then get a little lifestyle advice? Or do your patients come to you for a complete wellness solution and get some chiropractic care to help bring their bodies back to balance? I just think many chiropractors, are more heavy on the chiropractic and therapeutic part than on REALLY working with people to help them change their lifestyle.

Slowly my office is transitioning from a chiropractic clinic that does some wellness to a wellness clinic that also does chiropractic. I think there is a major difference. I know other chiropractors in Oregon seem to be heading in the same direction. Abrahamson, , Deumling and others come to mind. I know others may have been doing this for years already. They should be applauded.

The research is incredibly rich in showing that chronic disease is lifestyle driven. People are suffering and dying of these things all around me in my community. I know I have the answers to prevent that. And the answer is not to adjust them a hundred times over a one year period and then put them on maintenance plan for the rest of their life. The answer is to teach them the truth about how they are unknowingly killing themselves with their lifestyle choices and then show them how they can easily change and begin creating a healthier lifestyle. It is so simple, but so profound.

Wellness is NOT a new idea, but the SCIENCE of wellness as disseminated by the likes of Chestnut, DC and Bruce Lipton, PhD is very new and incredibly exciting.

Jamey Dyson, DC, CCWP

Doctor of Chiropractic (DC)

Certified Chiropractic Wellness Practitioner (CCWP)

Advanced Chiropractic

1295 Wallace Rd NW

Salem, OR 97304

503-361-3949

drjdyson1comcast (DOT) net

On Jan 28, 2010, at 2:19 PM, joe medlin wrote:

Thank you Jamey. Great Response.

I believe what i was confusing it with is Straight up Chiropractic or "Subluxation" based chiropractic. Having gone to Life West in the Bay Area, your comment on Turning On the Powahhh, was not lost on me. Verry funny. However, as I remember we were taught very strongly to treat the entire person and to take into consideration diet, exercise mind body spirit on all patients. I think it's impossible to be Chiropractor, Nutritionist, Trainer, Counselor and Clergy all at once, but advising on balanced diet, exercise, stress reduction etc is part of my daily practice and I'd have to say most of ours. Isn't that enough to be called "Wellness Based"?

ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800

Law Allows Direct Access To Physical Therapy

http://www.kptv.com/video/22303478/index.html

Nothing new here but I wonder why it is on this newslink now.

s. fuchs dc

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First of all Jamey, thanks for the discussion. I was truly unaware that there were chiropractors out there doing this. Perhaps it should becalled "Chiropractic based Wellness practitioner" as opposed to the other way around.

People come to me because i'm a chiropractor and they feel i can help them with what chiropractic helps people with.

Funny thing is that the people coming in for wellness/maintenance treatments etc, already have a good grasp on their health. The folks that don't have a good grasp are the ones that are also NOT seeking out wellness or likely to change (most). Those folks are the ones that get some advice, but beyond "Bill, smoking is gonna kill you blah blah blah" what are we to do? Human choice has to be respected and understood and harping with scientific papers in your hands can mostly alienate from what i've experienced.

A lot of this isn't really that new. I mean Bruce Lipton used to do Seminars at Life West when I was a student, uhh, almost 11 years ago now, yikes and Malik Slosberg used to teach Validating chiropractic classes that we were required to take and much of what I have heard from Chestnutt are new terms replacing and improving good established ideas. Dan also back then.

However, I do applaud you and others like you for treating the whole body and dessiminating advice about a person's entire well being. To make that the primary focus of your practice is admirable if not very difficult.

That being said, I will always choose to be a Chiropractor First.

ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800

Law Allows Direct Access To Physical Therapy

http://www.kptv.com/video/22303478/index.html

Nothing new here but I wonder why it is on this newslink now.

s. fuchs dc

[Guest guest]

First of all Jamey, thanks for the discussion. I was truly unaware that there were chiropractors out there doing this. Perhaps it should becalled "Chiropractic based Wellness practitioner" as opposed to the other way around.

People come to me because i'm a chiropractor and they feel i can help them with what chiropractic helps people with.

Funny thing is that the people coming in for wellness/maintenance treatments etc, already have a good grasp on their health. The folks that don't have a good grasp are the ones that are also NOT seeking out wellness or likely to change (most). Those folks are the ones that get some advice, but beyond "Bill, smoking is gonna kill you blah blah blah" what are we to do? Human choice has to be respected and understood and harping with scientific papers in your hands can mostly alienate from what i've experienced.

A lot of this isn't really that new. I mean Bruce Lipton used to do Seminars at Life West when I was a student, uhh, almost 11 years ago now, yikes and Malik Slosberg used to teach Validating chiropractic classes that we were required to take and much of what I have heard from Chestnutt are new terms replacing and improving good established ideas. Dan also back then.

However, I do applaud you and others like you for treating the whole body and dessiminating advice about a person's entire well being. To make that the primary focus of your practice is admirable if not very difficult.

That being said, I will always choose to be a Chiropractor First.

ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800

Law Allows Direct Access To Physical Therapy

http://www.kptv.com/video/22303478/index.html

Nothing new here but I wonder why it is on this newslink now.

s. fuchs dc

[Guest guest]

Could we agree that "wellness" is the art of enhancing one's ability for self-healing? If so, we affirm a core element of Chiropractic and provide a simple handle for people to grasp. Sears, DC, IAYT2609 NW ThurmanPortland, Oregon 97210v: 503-225-0255f: 503-525-6902www.docbones.comOn Jan 29, 2010, at 9:57 AM, joe medlin wrote: First of all Jamey, thanks for the discussion. I was truly unaware that there were chiropractors out there doing this. Perhaps it should becalled "Chiropractic based Wellness practitioner" as opposed to the other way around. People come to me because i'm a chiropractor and they feel i can help them with what chiropractic helps people with. Funny thing is that the people coming in for wellness/maintenance treatments etc, already have a good grasp on their health. The folks that don't have a good grasp are the ones that are also NOT seeking out wellness or likely to change (most). Those folks are the ones that get some advice, but beyond "Bill, smoking is gonna kill you blah blah blah" what are we to do? Human choice has to be respected and understood and harping with scientific papers in your hands can mostly alienate from what i've experienced. A lot of this isn't really that new. I mean Bruce Lipton used to do Seminars at Life West when I was a student, uhh, almost 11 years ago now, yikes and Malik Slosberg used to teach Validating chiropractic classes that we were required to take and much of what I have heard from Chestnutt are new terms replacing and improving good established ideas. Dan also back then. However, I do applaud you and others like you for treating the whole body and dessiminating advice about a person's entire well being. To make that the primary focus of your practice is admirable if not very difficult. That being said, I will always choose to be a Chiropractor First. ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800 Law Allows Direct Access To Physical Therapy http://www.kptv.com/video/22303478/index.htmlNothing new here but I wonder why it is on this newslink now.s. fuchs dc

[Guest guest]

Could we agree that "wellness" is the art of enhancing one's ability for self-healing? If so, we affirm a core element of Chiropractic and provide a simple handle for people to grasp. Sears, DC, IAYT2609 NW ThurmanPortland, Oregon 97210v: 503-225-0255f: 503-525-6902www.docbones.comOn Jan 29, 2010, at 9:57 AM, joe medlin wrote: First of all Jamey, thanks for the discussion. I was truly unaware that there were chiropractors out there doing this. Perhaps it should becalled "Chiropractic based Wellness practitioner" as opposed to the other way around. People come to me because i'm a chiropractor and they feel i can help them with what chiropractic helps people with. Funny thing is that the people coming in for wellness/maintenance treatments etc, already have a good grasp on their health. The folks that don't have a good grasp are the ones that are also NOT seeking out wellness or likely to change (most). Those folks are the ones that get some advice, but beyond "Bill, smoking is gonna kill you blah blah blah" what are we to do? Human choice has to be respected and understood and harping with scientific papers in your hands can mostly alienate from what i've experienced. A lot of this isn't really that new. I mean Bruce Lipton used to do Seminars at Life West when I was a student, uhh, almost 11 years ago now, yikes and Malik Slosberg used to teach Validating chiropractic classes that we were required to take and much of what I have heard from Chestnutt are new terms replacing and improving good established ideas. Dan also back then. However, I do applaud you and others like you for treating the whole body and dessiminating advice about a person's entire well being. To make that the primary focus of your practice is admirable if not very difficult. That being said, I will always choose to be a Chiropractor First. ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800 Law Allows Direct Access To Physical Therapy http://www.kptv.com/video/22303478/index.htmlNothing new here but I wonder why it is on this newslink now.s. fuchs dc

[Guest guest]

Actually, Joe, it isn't really difficult at all. With the 'one-page lessons' concept, an extra 3 - 5 minutes/visit is all it takes to accumulate knowledge enough for a person to 'do the things I cannot do for you' in order to 'get them to the point where they don't need to see me but once/month to once/quarter' .......

What I have found with these lessons is that people tend to realize that THEY have responsibilities....most people know that but don't know how/what/where to do what to make it all come together with nutrients, exercise, adjustive scheduling, etc. With the lessons - given in one-sheet format for them to take home after a 3 minute explanation of the sheet from me - we are finding that compliance is relatively high. They come to know that, when they do the things recommended, they feel better longer....what a concept! They realize that I am actually attempting to get them better, not just 'down the line'.

So, here, I don't start off telling them that I am going to get the well or healthy, I tell them I am going to teach them the things I cannot do for them that will enable their current owie to improve and stay improved. Then, about x weeks later, they are telling ME how healthy they feel and how much stronger things are and how their body is working so much better.

Anyway....it works here.

Sunny ;'-))

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7CEugene, Oregon, 97401541- 654-0850; Fx; 541- 654-0834www.drsunnykierstyn.com

; drjdyson1@...From: spinetree@...Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:57:39 -0800Subject: Re: Wellness - Law Allows Direct Access To Physical Therapy

First of all Jamey, thanks for the discussion. I was truly unaware that there were chiropractors out there doing this. Perhaps it should becalled "Chiropractic based Wellness practitioner" as opposed to the other way around.

People come to me because i'm a chiropractor and they feel i can help them with what chiropractic helps people with.

Funny thing is that the people coming in for wellness/maintenance treatments etc, already have a good grasp on their health. The folks that don't have a good grasp are the ones that are also NOT seeking out wellness or likely to change (most). Those folks are the ones that get some advice, but beyond "Bill, smoking is gonna kill you blah blah blah" what are we to do? Human choice has to be respected and understood and harping with scientific papers in your hands can mostly alienate from what i've experienced.

A lot of this isn't really that new. I mean Bruce Lipton used to do Seminars at Life West when I was a student, uhh, almost 11 years ago now, yikes and Malik Slosberg used to teach Validating chiropractic classes that we were required to take and much of what I have heard from Chestnutt are new terms replacing and improving good established ideas. Dan also back then.

However, I do applaud you and others like you for treating the whole body and dessiminating advice about a person's entire well being. To make that the primary focus of your practice is admirable if not very difficult.

That being said, I will always choose to be a Chiropractor First.

ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800

Law Allows Direct Access To Physical Therapy

http://www.kptv.com/video/22303478/index.html

Nothing new here but I wonder why it is on this newslink now.

s. fuchs dc

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[Guest guest]

Actually, Joe, it isn't really difficult at all. With the 'one-page lessons' concept, an extra 3 - 5 minutes/visit is all it takes to accumulate knowledge enough for a person to 'do the things I cannot do for you' in order to 'get them to the point where they don't need to see me but once/month to once/quarter' .......

What I have found with these lessons is that people tend to realize that THEY have responsibilities....most people know that but don't know how/what/where to do what to make it all come together with nutrients, exercise, adjustive scheduling, etc. With the lessons - given in one-sheet format for them to take home after a 3 minute explanation of the sheet from me - we are finding that compliance is relatively high. They come to know that, when they do the things recommended, they feel better longer....what a concept! They realize that I am actually attempting to get them better, not just 'down the line'.

So, here, I don't start off telling them that I am going to get the well or healthy, I tell them I am going to teach them the things I cannot do for them that will enable their current owie to improve and stay improved. Then, about x weeks later, they are telling ME how healthy they feel and how much stronger things are and how their body is working so much better.

Anyway....it works here.

Sunny ;'-))

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7CEugene, Oregon, 97401541- 654-0850; Fx; 541- 654-0834www.drsunnykierstyn.com

; drjdyson1@...From: spinetree@...Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:57:39 -0800Subject: Re: Wellness - Law Allows Direct Access To Physical Therapy

First of all Jamey, thanks for the discussion. I was truly unaware that there were chiropractors out there doing this. Perhaps it should becalled "Chiropractic based Wellness practitioner" as opposed to the other way around.

People come to me because i'm a chiropractor and they feel i can help them with what chiropractic helps people with.

Funny thing is that the people coming in for wellness/maintenance treatments etc, already have a good grasp on their health. The folks that don't have a good grasp are the ones that are also NOT seeking out wellness or likely to change (most). Those folks are the ones that get some advice, but beyond "Bill, smoking is gonna kill you blah blah blah" what are we to do? Human choice has to be respected and understood and harping with scientific papers in your hands can mostly alienate from what i've experienced.

A lot of this isn't really that new. I mean Bruce Lipton used to do Seminars at Life West when I was a student, uhh, almost 11 years ago now, yikes and Malik Slosberg used to teach Validating chiropractic classes that we were required to take and much of what I have heard from Chestnutt are new terms replacing and improving good established ideas. Dan also back then.

However, I do applaud you and others like you for treating the whole body and dessiminating advice about a person's entire well being. To make that the primary focus of your practice is admirable if not very difficult.

That being said, I will always choose to be a Chiropractor First.

ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800

Law Allows Direct Access To Physical Therapy

http://www.kptv.com/video/22303478/index.html

Nothing new here but I wonder why it is on this newslink now.

s. fuchs dc

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Thats great. I was actually referring to it being difficult if you were to make the Bulk of your practice Wellness oriented with chiropractic supplementation. I just feel that people are difficult to change when they don't want that change. There are people who come in who don't give a rats behind about wellness, they want the neck pain gone and will do what i recommend to do that. Quitting smoking or dairy intake or whatever and attaining true wellness will be difficult to acheive.

It's simple when they are receptive to it, seek it out and want it.

ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800

Law Allows Direct Access To Physical Therapy

http://www.kptv.com/video/22303478/index.html

Nothing new here but I wonder why it is on this newslink now.

s. fuchs dc

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Well, actually that's my point .... I don't TELL them I'm gonna teach 'em how to be healthy. I tell them I am going to teach them the things to do to prevent needing to see me ................... that doing these things - and giving me 2 weeks to 90 days to fix what they've brought me - and they will need me less! It catches their attention............and the intersting thing about it is that they often end up seeing me more ..... it give them a sense of control over their body. THen, when I say, 'you know, this looks like ti will take me about x weeks/treatments to get back in line', they have a quieter sense that I am telling the truth, not just attempting to pad my schedule.

Over time they actually realize that, when they do the things I am recommending, their adjustment DOES hold longer and stronger..... compliance happens by itself. You are right, you can't make someone do something they don't want to do ...... the quiet accumulation of knowledge - combined with the 'keep it simple and create it working' mentality that I attempt to coerce - makes it simplier for both me and them with them staying closer to that 'healthy' edge.

Sunny

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7CEugene, Oregon, 97401541- 654-0850; Fx; 541- 654-0834www.drsunnykierstyn.com

From: spinetree@...To: ; drjdyson1@...; skrndc1@...Subject: Re: Wellness - Law Allows Direct Access To Physical TherapyDate: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:49:22 -0800

Thats great. I was actually referring to it being difficult if you were to make the Bulk of your practice Wellness oriented with chiropractic supplementation. I just feel that people are difficult to change when they don't want that change. There are people who come in who don't give a rats behind about wellness, they want the neck pain gone and will do what i recommend to do that. Quitting smoking or dairy intake or whatever and attaining true wellness will be difficult to acheive.

It's simple when they are receptive to it, seek it out and want it.

ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800

Law Allows Direct Access To Physical Therapy

http://www.kptv.com/video/22303478/index.html

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Well, actually that's my point .... I don't TELL them I'm gonna teach 'em how to be healthy. I tell them I am going to teach them the things to do to prevent needing to see me ................... that doing these things - and giving me 2 weeks to 90 days to fix what they've brought me - and they will need me less! It catches their attention............and the intersting thing about it is that they often end up seeing me more ..... it give them a sense of control over their body. THen, when I say, 'you know, this looks like ti will take me about x weeks/treatments to get back in line', they have a quieter sense that I am telling the truth, not just attempting to pad my schedule.

Over time they actually realize that, when they do the things I am recommending, their adjustment DOES hold longer and stronger..... compliance happens by itself. You are right, you can't make someone do something they don't want to do ...... the quiet accumulation of knowledge - combined with the 'keep it simple and create it working' mentality that I attempt to coerce - makes it simplier for both me and them with them staying closer to that 'healthy' edge.

Sunny

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7CEugene, Oregon, 97401541- 654-0850; Fx; 541- 654-0834www.drsunnykierstyn.com

From: spinetree@...To: ; drjdyson1@...; skrndc1@...Subject: Re: Wellness - Law Allows Direct Access To Physical TherapyDate: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:49:22 -0800

Thats great. I was actually referring to it being difficult if you were to make the Bulk of your practice Wellness oriented with chiropractic supplementation. I just feel that people are difficult to change when they don't want that change. There are people who come in who don't give a rats behind about wellness, they want the neck pain gone and will do what i recommend to do that. Quitting smoking or dairy intake or whatever and attaining true wellness will be difficult to acheive.

It's simple when they are receptive to it, seek it out and want it.

ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800

Law Allows Direct Access To Physical Therapy

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I believe everyone WANTS to be healthier. They just don't believe they can do it or that it is even possible. They don't know how to change. Their paradigm keeps them there as a victim. Our job as wellness-based chiropractors is to do everything we can to change their paradigm about their health. That's where it starts. Dripping it with wellness tips is one way to go about it. Sunny, I'm sure you've completely changed some people's health paradigm with your system and saved them from chronic disease. Way to go!!Jamey DysonOn Jan 29, 2010, at 12:49 PM, joe medlin wrote:Thats great. I was actually referring to it being difficult if you were to make the Bulk of your practice Wellness oriented with chiropractic supplementation. I just feel that people are difficult to change when they don't want that change. There are people who come in who don't give a rats behind about wellness, they want the neck pain gone and will do what i recommend to do that. Quitting smoking or dairy intake or whatever and attaining true wellness will be difficult to acheive.It's simple when they are receptive to it, seek it out and want it. ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800 Law Allows Direct Access To Physical Therapyhttp://www.kptv.com/video/22303478/index.htmlNothing new here but I wonder why it is on this newslink now.s. fuchs dcHotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.

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I believe everyone WANTS to be healthier. They just don't believe they can do it or that it is even possible. They don't know how to change. Their paradigm keeps them there as a victim. Our job as wellness-based chiropractors is to do everything we can to change their paradigm about their health. That's where it starts. Dripping it with wellness tips is one way to go about it. Sunny, I'm sure you've completely changed some people's health paradigm with your system and saved them from chronic disease. Way to go!!Jamey DysonOn Jan 29, 2010, at 12:49 PM, joe medlin wrote:Thats great. I was actually referring to it being difficult if you were to make the Bulk of your practice Wellness oriented with chiropractic supplementation. I just feel that people are difficult to change when they don't want that change. There are people who come in who don't give a rats behind about wellness, they want the neck pain gone and will do what i recommend to do that. Quitting smoking or dairy intake or whatever and attaining true wellness will be difficult to acheive.It's simple when they are receptive to it, seek it out and want it. ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800 Law Allows Direct Access To Physical Therapyhttp://www.kptv.com/video/22303478/index.htmlNothing new here but I wonder why it is on this newslink now.s. fuchs dcHotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.

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Thank you Dr.Medlin I don't think it could have been said any better.

Herb Freeman D.C.

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[Guest guest]

Thank you Dr.Medlin I don't think it could have been said any better.

Herb Freeman D.C.

Law Allows Direct Access To Physical Therapy

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s. fuchs dc