Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Do you know what groups comprise the non-MD group that the ACA met with ? s. fuchs dc From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of vsaboe Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 10:17 AM '' Subject: FW: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update From: ACA Government Relations [mailto:GRacatoday (DOT) org] Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 9:07 AM vsaboecomcast (DOT) net Subject: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update July 2009 Welcome Contact Information E-mail: GRacatoday (DOT) org Web: www.acatoday.org National Health Reform Update Report Issued July 24, 2009: Controversy Builds Over National Reform Proposals – Final Action Before August Congressional Recess Now an Impossibility – Delay to Provide Chiropractic Community With Additional Lobbying Opportunities Background: Efforts to advance a comprehensive national health reform bill through Congress on the timeline originally set by President Obama and Democrat Congressional leaders, have run into a series of obstacles, including growing concerns by centrist Democrats and others in Congress, that a massive expansion of health care benefits for millions of Americans currently without healthcare coverage would add dramatically to the federal budget deficit and would not be economically sustainable. Concerns about paying for the expansion have ballooned since release of the draft text of the House Tri-Committee reform bill and passage of reform bill out of the Senate HELP Committee earlier this month. For these and other reasons, it is now abundantly clear that the Senate will fail to pass a bill prior to the scheduled August congressional recess and House action on a bill by this date looks seriously in doubt, even though President Obama as recently as July 22, addressed the nation on the need to rapidly adopt a national reform bill. Given the growing controversy over the issue, no enactment of a final reform bill into law is expected until the fall of 2009 at the earliest. As a practical matter, the delays now facing Congress mean the ACA and the chiropractic community as a whole will have additional opportunities, especially during the August recess, to lobby Congress on issues of specific concern to the profession. ACA Continues Push for Adoption of Acceptable Provider Non-Discrimination Provision: As reported in ACA’s July 16 Update Bulletin, the Senate HELP Committee completed work on their version of a comprehensive health reform bill Wednesday July 15. Over the opposition of insurance industry interests (Blue Cross Blue Shield in particular) the HELP Committee approved inclusion of a “placeholder” provider non-discrimination provision (Harkin Amendment #202-Modified) in their version of the bill. The placeholder amendment was adopted as a “temporary” measure, with the acknowledgement of both Democrats and Republicans on the Committee that the precise wording of the provision “needs additional work” prior to the HELP bill being brought to the Senate floor for further consideration. While inclusion of a non-discrimination provision constitutes an important tactical victory, the ACA remains concerned that the language needs to be modified in order to make it fully effective. Towards that end, the ACA and other non-MD provider groups met jointly on July 22 with representatives of Senator Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Senator Dodd (D-Conn.) acting Chair of the HELP Committee, and Senator Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) longtime chiropractic supporter. Proposed modifications of the provision and ways to address Congressional Budget Office (CBO) scoring concerns dominated the discussion. It is hoped that ACA and coalition suggested improvements to the provision will be agreed to in the near future. Additionally, the ACA continues to seek opportunities to insert a companion non-discrimination provision into the House Tri-Committee reform bill. The ACA will report the extent to which progress is made on this issue in future Update Bulletins. Additional Provisions Sought by the ACA: In addition to an acceptable non-discrimination provision the ACA continues to work for inclusion of provisions that would address the design of the “minimum benefits” packages that would be established under any “public plan” or private plans that would have to meet federally defined benefit standards. The ACA is circulating various relief provisions that would: 1) require the benefits package to, as a minimum, include those benefits under Medicare Parts A and B -- a potentially critical provision especially if the ACA wins a future expansion of Chiropractic services in Medicare, a goal that remains a top priority of the Association; 2) require the benefits package to reflect those benefits and insurance guarantees available in a majority of states, including chiropractic care; and 3) Outline for the Secretary of HHS a series of other factors (favorable to chiropractic) that would have to be taken into consideration in terms of the benefits package design. The ACA is hopeful that one or more of these provisions will be incorporated into any final bill emerging out of Congress, although none of these provisions has yet to be adopted by any of the various committees of jurisdiction. The ACA remains opposed to the adoption of any provision requiring providers to participate in any public plan or to only be reimbursed at Medicare rates for services provided. Future Expected Senate Action: Thus far, the Senate Finance Committee, chaired by Senator Max Baucus (D-MT) has not produced a completed draft bill for public review, nor has the Committee begun a formal mark-up session. The precise timetable for this committee’s action remains unclear; however, release of a draft bill could take place prior to the August recess. Formal markup is not expected until September. At present, we do not expect the Senate Finance Committee to address provider non-discrimination issues in their version of the bill. At some point – after the planned Congressional recess in August – Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) will attempt to “meld’ the Senate HELP Committee bill and any product emerging out of the Senate Finance Committee into one overall package which he would bring to the floor of the Senate at a time of his choosing, again most likely in the fall of this year. Current Status in the U.S. House: The three committees of jurisdiction in the House have released a common bill known as the “Tri-Committee” reform bill. The Tri-Committee bill does not contain a provider non-discrimination amendment. The Ways & Means Committee and House Education Committees have already approved their portions of the bill. The House Energy and Commerce Committee Chaired by Representative Henry Waxman (D-Cal) has, as of the date of this report, been unable to report a bill due to opposition from centrist Democrats on the Committee including so-called “Blue Dog” Democrats concerned about federal deficit and other controversial issues. If this committee remains deadlocked over the content of the bill, House Speaker Pelosi could simply by-pass the Committee and bring (through the House Rules Committee process over which she has great influence) a bill to the House floor for a vote. If opposition to portions of the Tri-Committee bill continues to build, she may be forced to take this action. Theoretically, a bill could be brought to the House floor prior to the scheduled August recess period and no bill would likely come to the floor unless Speaker Pelosi has calculated she has the votes to pass it, and those votes may not materialize in the time remaining before the recess begins. Joint House Senate Conference to be a Major Battleground: Eventually, presuming the reform efforts does not collapse, both the Senate and House will pass separate, differing bills, and the two versions would be reconciled into one final package in the “conference” process that will essentially take place behind closed doors and over a timeframe that could take several weeks. During the conference process groups, including the ACA, will likely attempt to seek a range of modifications to the final bill that will emerge from this process and return to the House and Senate for final action. August Recess Period a Major Grassroots Lobbying Opportunity: The ACA, in conjunction with its “Summit” partners is expecting to issue one or more Alert Bulletins applicable to the congressional recess period. All DCs should watch for and respond as specifically directed to these future bulletins, as the recess period will serve as a prime grassroots lobbying opportunity for our profession. Additionally, the ACA will be coordinating with select state chiropractic associations, including the Congress of Chiropractic State Associations, a group of important targeted meetings (state and local district based) with select members of the Senate and House in a position of help address issues of concern to us. Please Support the ChiroVoice Project NOW if You Have Not Yet Begun to do So: It remains extremely important that DCs continue to support and participate in the CHIROVOICE project to construct and activate a national database of chiropractic patients, via their e-mail addresses. Go to CHIROVOICE for details and instructions on how to participate if you have not already begun to support this vital project. Follow health care reform at www.acatoday.org/hcr. If you have any questions about the material contained in the bulletin please contact gracatoday (DOT) org Copyright © American Chiropractic Association | 1701 Clarendon Blvd. Arlington, VA 22209 | 703 276 8800. 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Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Do you know what groups comprise the non-MD group that the ACA met with ? s. fuchs dc From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of vsaboe Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 10:17 AM '' Subject: FW: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update From: ACA Government Relations [mailto:GRacatoday (DOT) org] Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 9:07 AM vsaboecomcast (DOT) net Subject: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update July 2009 Welcome Contact Information E-mail: GRacatoday (DOT) org Web: www.acatoday.org National Health Reform Update Report Issued July 24, 2009: Controversy Builds Over National Reform Proposals – Final Action Before August Congressional Recess Now an Impossibility – Delay to Provide Chiropractic Community With Additional Lobbying Opportunities Background: Efforts to advance a comprehensive national health reform bill through Congress on the timeline originally set by President Obama and Democrat Congressional leaders, have run into a series of obstacles, including growing concerns by centrist Democrats and others in Congress, that a massive expansion of health care benefits for millions of Americans currently without healthcare coverage would add dramatically to the federal budget deficit and would not be economically sustainable. Concerns about paying for the expansion have ballooned since release of the draft text of the House Tri-Committee reform bill and passage of reform bill out of the Senate HELP Committee earlier this month. For these and other reasons, it is now abundantly clear that the Senate will fail to pass a bill prior to the scheduled August congressional recess and House action on a bill by this date looks seriously in doubt, even though President Obama as recently as July 22, addressed the nation on the need to rapidly adopt a national reform bill. Given the growing controversy over the issue, no enactment of a final reform bill into law is expected until the fall of 2009 at the earliest. As a practical matter, the delays now facing Congress mean the ACA and the chiropractic community as a whole will have additional opportunities, especially during the August recess, to lobby Congress on issues of specific concern to the profession. ACA Continues Push for Adoption of Acceptable Provider Non-Discrimination Provision: As reported in ACA’s July 16 Update Bulletin, the Senate HELP Committee completed work on their version of a comprehensive health reform bill Wednesday July 15. Over the opposition of insurance industry interests (Blue Cross Blue Shield in particular) the HELP Committee approved inclusion of a “placeholder” provider non-discrimination provision (Harkin Amendment #202-Modified) in their version of the bill. The placeholder amendment was adopted as a “temporary” measure, with the acknowledgement of both Democrats and Republicans on the Committee that the precise wording of the provision “needs additional work” prior to the HELP bill being brought to the Senate floor for further consideration. While inclusion of a non-discrimination provision constitutes an important tactical victory, the ACA remains concerned that the language needs to be modified in order to make it fully effective. Towards that end, the ACA and other non-MD provider groups met jointly on July 22 with representatives of Senator Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Senator Dodd (D-Conn.) acting Chair of the HELP Committee, and Senator Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) longtime chiropractic supporter. Proposed modifications of the provision and ways to address Congressional Budget Office (CBO) scoring concerns dominated the discussion. It is hoped that ACA and coalition suggested improvements to the provision will be agreed to in the near future. Additionally, the ACA continues to seek opportunities to insert a companion non-discrimination provision into the House Tri-Committee reform bill. The ACA will report the extent to which progress is made on this issue in future Update Bulletins. Additional Provisions Sought by the ACA: In addition to an acceptable non-discrimination provision the ACA continues to work for inclusion of provisions that would address the design of the “minimum benefits” packages that would be established under any “public plan” or private plans that would have to meet federally defined benefit standards. The ACA is circulating various relief provisions that would: 1) require the benefits package to, as a minimum, include those benefits under Medicare Parts A and B -- a potentially critical provision especially if the ACA wins a future expansion of Chiropractic services in Medicare, a goal that remains a top priority of the Association; 2) require the benefits package to reflect those benefits and insurance guarantees available in a majority of states, including chiropractic care; and 3) Outline for the Secretary of HHS a series of other factors (favorable to chiropractic) that would have to be taken into consideration in terms of the benefits package design. The ACA is hopeful that one or more of these provisions will be incorporated into any final bill emerging out of Congress, although none of these provisions has yet to be adopted by any of the various committees of jurisdiction. The ACA remains opposed to the adoption of any provision requiring providers to participate in any public plan or to only be reimbursed at Medicare rates for services provided. Future Expected Senate Action: Thus far, the Senate Finance Committee, chaired by Senator Max Baucus (D-MT) has not produced a completed draft bill for public review, nor has the Committee begun a formal mark-up session. The precise timetable for this committee’s action remains unclear; however, release of a draft bill could take place prior to the August recess. Formal markup is not expected until September. At present, we do not expect the Senate Finance Committee to address provider non-discrimination issues in their version of the bill. At some point – after the planned Congressional recess in August – Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) will attempt to “meld’ the Senate HELP Committee bill and any product emerging out of the Senate Finance Committee into one overall package which he would bring to the floor of the Senate at a time of his choosing, again most likely in the fall of this year. Current Status in the U.S. House: The three committees of jurisdiction in the House have released a common bill known as the “Tri-Committee” reform bill. The Tri-Committee bill does not contain a provider non-discrimination amendment. The Ways & Means Committee and House Education Committees have already approved their portions of the bill. The House Energy and Commerce Committee Chaired by Representative Henry Waxman (D-Cal) has, as of the date of this report, been unable to report a bill due to opposition from centrist Democrats on the Committee including so-called “Blue Dog” Democrats concerned about federal deficit and other controversial issues. If this committee remains deadlocked over the content of the bill, House Speaker Pelosi could simply by-pass the Committee and bring (through the House Rules Committee process over which she has great influence) a bill to the House floor for a vote. If opposition to portions of the Tri-Committee bill continues to build, she may be forced to take this action. Theoretically, a bill could be brought to the House floor prior to the scheduled August recess period and no bill would likely come to the floor unless Speaker Pelosi has calculated she has the votes to pass it, and those votes may not materialize in the time remaining before the recess begins. Joint House Senate Conference to be a Major Battleground: Eventually, presuming the reform efforts does not collapse, both the Senate and House will pass separate, differing bills, and the two versions would be reconciled into one final package in the “conference” process that will essentially take place behind closed doors and over a timeframe that could take several weeks. During the conference process groups, including the ACA, will likely attempt to seek a range of modifications to the final bill that will emerge from this process and return to the House and Senate for final action. August Recess Period a Major Grassroots Lobbying Opportunity: The ACA, in conjunction with its “Summit” partners is expecting to issue one or more Alert Bulletins applicable to the congressional recess period. All DCs should watch for and respond as specifically directed to these future bulletins, as the recess period will serve as a prime grassroots lobbying opportunity for our profession. Additionally, the ACA will be coordinating with select state chiropractic associations, including the Congress of Chiropractic State Associations, a group of important targeted meetings (state and local district based) with select members of the Senate and House in a position of help address issues of concern to us. Please Support the ChiroVoice Project NOW if You Have Not Yet Begun to do So: It remains extremely important that DCs continue to support and participate in the CHIROVOICE project to construct and activate a national database of chiropractic patients, via their e-mail addresses. Go to CHIROVOICE for details and instructions on how to participate if you have not already begun to support this vital project. Follow health care reform at www.acatoday.org/hcr. If you have any questions about the material contained in the bulletin please contact gracatoday (DOT) org Copyright © American Chiropractic Association | 1701 Clarendon Blvd. Arlington, VA 22209 | 703 276 8800. 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Guest guest Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 I know what I'm about to share may strike some of you as Pollyanna-ish or WhooWhoo, but here goes anyway: Almost every post I read presents a doom and gloom picture about how Chiropractors will be "cut", "sidelined", "eliminated", "burned", "trashed", etc, etc. Gives me a headache just to think about it... Geez, take a deep breath. And have a little FAITH!! There is a school of thought that says: "What you think about--especially if it's backed with strong emotion/passion--IS WHAT YOU GET". So my 'repetitive internal tape' goes something like this: THERE IS ROOM FOR EVERYONE AT THE TABLE. No fear, no negative catastrophic thinking for me, thank you very much. And I DO understand that THERE IS WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE to assure that there is a place for Chiropractors at the table. But that work needs to be backed with positive, passionate faith and expectation. Hope you'll join me. Amen. Ann , DC :>) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 I know what I'm about to share may strike some of you as Pollyanna-ish or WhooWhoo, but here goes anyway: Almost every post I read presents a doom and gloom picture about how Chiropractors will be "cut", "sidelined", "eliminated", "burned", "trashed", etc, etc. Gives me a headache just to think about it... Geez, take a deep breath. And have a little FAITH!! There is a school of thought that says: "What you think about--especially if it's backed with strong emotion/passion--IS WHAT YOU GET". So my 'repetitive internal tape' goes something like this: THERE IS ROOM FOR EVERYONE AT THE TABLE. No fear, no negative catastrophic thinking for me, thank you very much. And I DO understand that THERE IS WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE to assure that there is a place for Chiropractors at the table. But that work needs to be backed with positive, passionate faith and expectation. Hope you'll join me. Amen. Ann , DC :>) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 What I have heard from the Obama side, as well as the others, it seems that the mandates that allow some parity and inclusion by law for insurance mandates within the states, would be gutted. Certainly, the first to go will be Chiropractic. If the other follows Medicare, well, we won't have ANY inclusion that is worthwhile. I also heard something about the Vermont model, which has inclusion of Chiropractic in all aspects, including Medicaid right now. Choice of providers for licence parameters would be the only way. Dr. Gerald Smalling > > From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update > From the Federal Front and ACA-Government Relations Dept.... > > Vern Saboe > > From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update > > > > > > > > August 2009 > > Welcome > > > Contact Information > E-mail: GR@... > > Web: www.acatoday.org > > > > > > National Health Reform Update Report Issued August 14, 2009 > > > Obama on the Offensive as Controversy Mounts Over Health Care Reform > > President Obama and his administration are “re-tooling†their message and attempting to regain the offensive in the battle to enact a comprehensive national health reform plan as members of Congress continue to gauge the public’s reaction to the issue in a series of “town hall†and other public meetings being held across the nation during the August recess period. The new drive by Obama, an attempt to reenergize and build momentum for the reform issue, follows the critical period of June and July in which Congress failed to move a reform bill through either the U.S. House or Senate prior to August, the timetable originally targeted by the White House and congressional leaders for action. > > Responding to the growing public concern regarding health care reform †" now a daily topic of discussion on virtually every news and cable network †" President Obama attended his own “town hall†meeting in Portsmouth, New Hampshire on August 11th, as part of the Administration’s ramped up plan to move the issue forward. Additional appearances by the President and Administration officials are planned throughout the month of August, as are many local meetings that are being scheduled by Members of Congress on both sides of the aisle. > > It is too early to determine the extent to which the President and his new outreach efforts will impact the overall debate, however, thus far public sentiment against some of the major features of contained in the reform plans supported by Obama appear to be growing. > > Obama Highlights the Importance of Primary Care †" Cites Provider Shortages †" ACA to Respond > > During his town hall meeting August 11, President Obama raised the profile of “primary care†providers, citing the important role they must play in a reformed delivery system. Highlighting anticipated shortages of primary care providers Obama said the following: “If you look at the makeup of the medical profession right now….we have severe shortages of primary care physicians.†> > In response to the President’s comments the ACA is planning to once again remind the White House and other policy-makers of the important primary care role played by DCs and how DCs can help achieve a paradigm shift towards a system of health care that places a greater emphasis on wellness and disease prevention. A copy of that communication will be included in next week’s update. > > Reform Status in the House and Senate: > > No formal action on the health reform issue will take place in the House and Senate until after Labor Day when congress returns from their August recess. However, the ACA continues to work with congressional offices to build support for chiropractic-related issues and to address concerns the ACA has with the current status of health reform bills in both bodies. A major area of activity continues to focus on provider non-discrimination issues and details of proposed benefits packages that might be adopted as part of a new “public plan†under consideration for adoption. > > ACA Continues to Stress the Importance of a Vigorous Grassroots Response by the Chiropractic Profession and Patients: > > With controversy over health care reform growing, and with citizens becoming increasing vocal in expressing their concerns, it remains vital that issues of specific interest to the chiropractic profession receive appropriate amplification, especially during the remaining weeks of the congressional recess period. ACA warns its membership and the entire profession, that the profession’s voice is in danger of being “drowned out†by a host of other, competing voices during the next several weeks as the reform issue grows more heated and controversial. > > To make its voice heard above this chatter, it is important that all DCs engage in a new round of grassroots activity and seek to involve their patients in a supporting role. All DCs are encouraged to immediately go online to ACA’s Legislative Action Center and send an E-MAIL MESSAGE to your members of Congress in both the House and Senate. This process is simple, largely automated, and easy to do. > > Whenever possible, all DCs and patients should continue to lobby their members of Congress, and where possible make local visits to congressional offices and take part in “town hall†type meetings over the recess period. ACA has prepared a Tool Kit that all DCs should become familiar with and use when meeting with their federal legislators. The Tool Kit will be updated regularly; in addition, we will promote ACA updates on health care reform at www.acatoday.org/hcr. > > Additionally, in order to help better inform ACA Members regarding the most recent developments, ACA GR staff are now filming and posting a brief video update report. New video updates will be posted periodically, usually on a weekly basis. The most recent version update was posted August 12th. > > Are You Supporting the ChiroVoice Project †" Or Sitting on the Sidelines? > > Patients are our profession’s secret weapon. Mobilizing them to support issues of chiropractic concern can help “level the playing field†and make us a more influential and competitive lobbying force in Washington. But patient mobilization can’t take place if you are a “sideliner††" sitting to the side and not supporting your profession’s patient mobilization campaign. It remains extremely important that DCs continue to support and participate in the CHIROVOICE project to construct and activate a national database of chiropractic patients, via their e-mail addresses. > > There is no reason to delay †" and every reason for you to get involved with this important project today if you have not already done so. Go to this link for all the information you need to support the development and activation of this important patient-centered lobbying resource. We need 100% participation for this important project which is intended to develop into a permanent, ever expanding grassroots resource that can be activated to support chiropractic issues on a nationwide basis. > > If you have any questions about this bulletin or any federal legislative issues involving chiropractic please do not hesitate to contact us at gr@... > > > > > > > > > > > Copyright © American Chiropractic Association | 1701 Clarendon Blvd. Arlington, VA 22209 | 703 276 8800. > > > > > > > > > > If you would rather not receive future communications from American Chiropractic Assocation, let us know by clicking here. > American Chiropractic Assocation, 1701 Clarendon Boulevard 2nd Floor, Arlington, VA 22209 United States > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 What I have heard from the Obama side, as well as the others, it seems that the mandates that allow some parity and inclusion by law for insurance mandates within the states, would be gutted. Certainly, the first to go will be Chiropractic. If the other follows Medicare, well, we won't have ANY inclusion that is worthwhile. I also heard something about the Vermont model, which has inclusion of Chiropractic in all aspects, including Medicaid right now. Choice of providers for licence parameters would be the only way. Dr. Gerald Smalling > > From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update > From the Federal Front and ACA-Government Relations Dept.... > > Vern Saboe > > From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update > > > > > > > > August 2009 > > Welcome > > > Contact Information > E-mail: GR@... > > Web: www.acatoday.org > > > > > > National Health Reform Update Report Issued August 14, 2009 > > > Obama on the Offensive as Controversy Mounts Over Health Care Reform > > President Obama and his administration are “re-tooling†their message and attempting to regain the offensive in the battle to enact a comprehensive national health reform plan as members of Congress continue to gauge the public’s reaction to the issue in a series of “town hall†and other public meetings being held across the nation during the August recess period. The new drive by Obama, an attempt to reenergize and build momentum for the reform issue, follows the critical period of June and July in which Congress failed to move a reform bill through either the U.S. House or Senate prior to August, the timetable originally targeted by the White House and congressional leaders for action. > > Responding to the growing public concern regarding health care reform †" now a daily topic of discussion on virtually every news and cable network †" President Obama attended his own “town hall†meeting in Portsmouth, New Hampshire on August 11th, as part of the Administration’s ramped up plan to move the issue forward. Additional appearances by the President and Administration officials are planned throughout the month of August, as are many local meetings that are being scheduled by Members of Congress on both sides of the aisle. > > It is too early to determine the extent to which the President and his new outreach efforts will impact the overall debate, however, thus far public sentiment against some of the major features of contained in the reform plans supported by Obama appear to be growing. > > Obama Highlights the Importance of Primary Care †" Cites Provider Shortages †" ACA to Respond > > During his town hall meeting August 11, President Obama raised the profile of “primary care†providers, citing the important role they must play in a reformed delivery system. Highlighting anticipated shortages of primary care providers Obama said the following: “If you look at the makeup of the medical profession right now….we have severe shortages of primary care physicians.†> > In response to the President’s comments the ACA is planning to once again remind the White House and other policy-makers of the important primary care role played by DCs and how DCs can help achieve a paradigm shift towards a system of health care that places a greater emphasis on wellness and disease prevention. A copy of that communication will be included in next week’s update. > > Reform Status in the House and Senate: > > No formal action on the health reform issue will take place in the House and Senate until after Labor Day when congress returns from their August recess. However, the ACA continues to work with congressional offices to build support for chiropractic-related issues and to address concerns the ACA has with the current status of health reform bills in both bodies. A major area of activity continues to focus on provider non-discrimination issues and details of proposed benefits packages that might be adopted as part of a new “public plan†under consideration for adoption. > > ACA Continues to Stress the Importance of a Vigorous Grassroots Response by the Chiropractic Profession and Patients: > > With controversy over health care reform growing, and with citizens becoming increasing vocal in expressing their concerns, it remains vital that issues of specific interest to the chiropractic profession receive appropriate amplification, especially during the remaining weeks of the congressional recess period. ACA warns its membership and the entire profession, that the profession’s voice is in danger of being “drowned out†by a host of other, competing voices during the next several weeks as the reform issue grows more heated and controversial. > > To make its voice heard above this chatter, it is important that all DCs engage in a new round of grassroots activity and seek to involve their patients in a supporting role. All DCs are encouraged to immediately go online to ACA’s Legislative Action Center and send an E-MAIL MESSAGE to your members of Congress in both the House and Senate. This process is simple, largely automated, and easy to do. > > Whenever possible, all DCs and patients should continue to lobby their members of Congress, and where possible make local visits to congressional offices and take part in “town hall†type meetings over the recess period. ACA has prepared a Tool Kit that all DCs should become familiar with and use when meeting with their federal legislators. The Tool Kit will be updated regularly; in addition, we will promote ACA updates on health care reform at www.acatoday.org/hcr. > > Additionally, in order to help better inform ACA Members regarding the most recent developments, ACA GR staff are now filming and posting a brief video update report. New video updates will be posted periodically, usually on a weekly basis. The most recent version update was posted August 12th. > > Are You Supporting the ChiroVoice Project †" Or Sitting on the Sidelines? > > Patients are our profession’s secret weapon. Mobilizing them to support issues of chiropractic concern can help “level the playing field†and make us a more influential and competitive lobbying force in Washington. But patient mobilization can’t take place if you are a “sideliner††" sitting to the side and not supporting your profession’s patient mobilization campaign. It remains extremely important that DCs continue to support and participate in the CHIROVOICE project to construct and activate a national database of chiropractic patients, via their e-mail addresses. > > There is no reason to delay †" and every reason for you to get involved with this important project today if you have not already done so. Go to this link for all the information you need to support the development and activation of this important patient-centered lobbying resource. We need 100% participation for this important project which is intended to develop into a permanent, ever expanding grassroots resource that can be activated to support chiropractic issues on a nationwide basis. > > If you have any questions about this bulletin or any federal legislative issues involving chiropractic please do not hesitate to contact us at gr@... > > > > > > > > > > > Copyright © American Chiropractic Association | 1701 Clarendon Blvd. Arlington, VA 22209 | 703 276 8800. > > > > > > > > > > If you would rather not receive future communications from American Chiropractic Assocation, let us know by clicking here. > American Chiropractic Assocation, 1701 Clarendon Boulevard 2nd Floor, Arlington, VA 22209 United States > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 No one knows as the House and Senate versions are now different and the guts of the as per future changes is a very fluid situation…..Vern SAboe From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of sjerry.rm Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:16 AM Subject: Re: Fw: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update What I have heard from the Obama side, as well as the others, it seems that the mandates that allow some parity and inclusion by law for insurance mandates within the states, would be gutted. Certainly, the first to go will be Chiropractic. If the other follows Medicare, well, we won't have ANY inclusion that is worthwhile. I also heard something about the Vermont model, which has inclusion of Chiropractic in all aspects, including Medicaid right now. Choice of providers for licence parameters would be the only way. Dr. Gerald Smalling > > From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update > From the Federal Front and ACA-Government Relations Dept.... > > Vern Saboe > > From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update > > > > > > > > August 2009 > > Welcome > > > Contact Information > E-mail: GR@... > > Web: www.acatoday.org > > > > > > National Health Reform Update Report Issued August 14, 2009 > > > Obama on the Offensive as Controversy Mounts Over Health Care Reform > > President Obama and his administration are “re-tooling†their message and attempting to regain the offensive in the battle to enact a comprehensive national health reform plan as members of Congress continue to gauge the public’s reaction to the issue in a series of “town hall†and other public meetings being held across the nation during the August recess period. The new drive by Obama, an attempt to reenergize and build momentum for the reform issue, follows the critical period of June and July in which Congress failed to move a reform bill through either the U.S. House or Senate prior to August, the timetable originally targeted by the White House and congressional leaders for action. > > Responding to the growing public concern regarding health care reform †" now a daily topic of discussion on virtually every news and cable network †" President Obama attended his own “town hall†meeting in Portsmouth, New Hampshire on August 11th, as part of the Administration’s ramped up plan to move the issue forward. Additional appearances by the President and Administration officials are planned throughout the month of August, as are many local meetings that are being scheduled by Members of Congress on both sides of the aisle. > > It is too early to determine the extent to which the President and his new outreach efforts will impact the overall debate, however, thus far public sentiment against some of the major features of contained in the reform plans supported by Obama appear to be growing. > > Obama Highlights the Importance of Primary Care †" Cites Provider Shortages †" ACA to Respond > > During his town hall meeting August 11, President Obama raised the profile of “primary care†providers, citing the important role they must play in a reformed delivery system. Highlighting anticipated shortages of primary care providers Obama said the following: “If you look at the makeup of the medical profession right now….we have severe shortages of primary care physicians.†> > In response to the President’s comments the ACA is planning to once again remind the White House and other policy-makers of the important primary care role played by DCs and how DCs can help achieve a paradigm shift towards a system of health care that places a greater emphasis on wellness and disease prevention. A copy of that communication will be included in next week’s update. > > Reform Status in the House and Senate: > > No formal action on the health reform issue will take place in the House and Senate until after Labor Day when congress returns from their August recess. However, the ACA continues to work with congressional offices to build support for chiropractic-related issues and to address concerns the ACA has with the current status of health reform bills in both bodies. A major area of activity continues to focus on provider non-discrimination issues and details of proposed benefits packages that might be adopted as part of a new “public plan†under consideration for adoption. > > ACA Continues to Stress the Importance of a Vigorous Grassroots Response by the Chiropractic Profession and Patients: > > With controversy over health care reform growing, and with citizens becoming increasing vocal in expressing their concerns, it remains vital that issues of specific interest to the chiropractic profession receive appropriate amplification, especially during the remaining weeks of the congressional recess period. ACA warns its membership and the entire profession, that the profession’s voice is in danger of being “drowned out†by a host of other, competing voices during the next several weeks as the reform issue grows more heated and controversial. > > To make its voice heard above this chatter, it is important that all DCs engage in a new round of grassroots activity and seek to involve their patients in a supporting role. All DCs are encouraged to immediately go online to ACA’s Legislative Action Center and send an E-MAIL MESSAGE to your members of Congress in both the House and Senate. This process is simple, largely automated, and easy to do. > > Whenever possible, all DCs and patients should continue to lobby their members of Congress, and where possible make local visits to congressional offices and take part in “town hall†type meetings over the recess period. ACA has prepared a Tool Kit that all DCs should become familiar with and use when meeting with their federal legislators. The Tool Kit will be updated regularly; in addition, we will promote ACA updates on health care reform at www.acatoday.org/hcr. > > Additionally, in order to help better inform ACA Members regarding the most recent developments, ACA GR staff are now filming and posting a brief video update report. New video updates will be posted periodically, usually on a weekly basis. The most recent version update was posted August 12th. > > Are You Supporting the ChiroVoice Project †" Or Sitting on the Sidelines? > > Patients are our profession’s secret weapon. Mobilizing them to support issues of chiropractic concern can help “level the playing field†and make us a more influential and competitive lobbying force in Washington. But patient mobilization can’t take place if you are a “sideliner††" sitting to the side and not supporting your profession’s patient mobilization campaign. It remains extremely important that DCs continue to support and participate in the CHIROVOICE project to construct and activate a national database of chiropractic patients, via their e-mail addresses. > > There is no reason to delay †" and every reason for you to get involved with this important project today if you have not already done so. Go to this link for all the information you need to support the development and activation of this important patient-centered lobbying resource. We need 100% participation for this important project which is intended to develop into a permanent, ever expanding grassroots resource that can be activated to support chiropractic issues on a nationwide basis. > > If you have any questions about this bulletin or any federal legislative issues involving chiropractic please do not hesitate to contact us at gr@... > > > > > > > > > > > Copyright © American Chiropractic Association | 1701 Clarendon Blvd. Arlington, VA 22209 | 703 276 8800. > > > > > > > > > > If you would rather not receive future communications from American Chiropractic Assocation, let us know by clicking here. > American Chiropractic Assocation, 1701 Clarendon Boulevard 2nd Floor, Arlington, VA 22209 United States > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.56/2302 - Release Date: 08/14/09 06:10:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 No one knows as the House and Senate versions are now different and the guts of the as per future changes is a very fluid situation…..Vern SAboe From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of sjerry.rm Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:16 AM Subject: Re: Fw: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update What I have heard from the Obama side, as well as the others, it seems that the mandates that allow some parity and inclusion by law for insurance mandates within the states, would be gutted. Certainly, the first to go will be Chiropractic. If the other follows Medicare, well, we won't have ANY inclusion that is worthwhile. I also heard something about the Vermont model, which has inclusion of Chiropractic in all aspects, including Medicaid right now. Choice of providers for licence parameters would be the only way. Dr. Gerald Smalling > > From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update > From the Federal Front and ACA-Government Relations Dept.... > > Vern Saboe > > From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update > > > > > > > > August 2009 > > Welcome > > > Contact Information > E-mail: GR@... > > Web: www.acatoday.org > > > > > > National Health Reform Update Report Issued August 14, 2009 > > > Obama on the Offensive as Controversy Mounts Over Health Care Reform > > President Obama and his administration are “re-tooling†their message and attempting to regain the offensive in the battle to enact a comprehensive national health reform plan as members of Congress continue to gauge the public’s reaction to the issue in a series of “town hall†and other public meetings being held across the nation during the August recess period. The new drive by Obama, an attempt to reenergize and build momentum for the reform issue, follows the critical period of June and July in which Congress failed to move a reform bill through either the U.S. House or Senate prior to August, the timetable originally targeted by the White House and congressional leaders for action. > > Responding to the growing public concern regarding health care reform †" now a daily topic of discussion on virtually every news and cable network †" President Obama attended his own “town hall†meeting in Portsmouth, New Hampshire on August 11th, as part of the Administration’s ramped up plan to move the issue forward. Additional appearances by the President and Administration officials are planned throughout the month of August, as are many local meetings that are being scheduled by Members of Congress on both sides of the aisle. > > It is too early to determine the extent to which the President and his new outreach efforts will impact the overall debate, however, thus far public sentiment against some of the major features of contained in the reform plans supported by Obama appear to be growing. > > Obama Highlights the Importance of Primary Care †" Cites Provider Shortages †" ACA to Respond > > During his town hall meeting August 11, President Obama raised the profile of “primary care†providers, citing the important role they must play in a reformed delivery system. Highlighting anticipated shortages of primary care providers Obama said the following: “If you look at the makeup of the medical profession right now….we have severe shortages of primary care physicians.†> > In response to the President’s comments the ACA is planning to once again remind the White House and other policy-makers of the important primary care role played by DCs and how DCs can help achieve a paradigm shift towards a system of health care that places a greater emphasis on wellness and disease prevention. A copy of that communication will be included in next week’s update. > > Reform Status in the House and Senate: > > No formal action on the health reform issue will take place in the House and Senate until after Labor Day when congress returns from their August recess. However, the ACA continues to work with congressional offices to build support for chiropractic-related issues and to address concerns the ACA has with the current status of health reform bills in both bodies. A major area of activity continues to focus on provider non-discrimination issues and details of proposed benefits packages that might be adopted as part of a new “public plan†under consideration for adoption. > > ACA Continues to Stress the Importance of a Vigorous Grassroots Response by the Chiropractic Profession and Patients: > > With controversy over health care reform growing, and with citizens becoming increasing vocal in expressing their concerns, it remains vital that issues of specific interest to the chiropractic profession receive appropriate amplification, especially during the remaining weeks of the congressional recess period. ACA warns its membership and the entire profession, that the profession’s voice is in danger of being “drowned out†by a host of other, competing voices during the next several weeks as the reform issue grows more heated and controversial. > > To make its voice heard above this chatter, it is important that all DCs engage in a new round of grassroots activity and seek to involve their patients in a supporting role. All DCs are encouraged to immediately go online to ACA’s Legislative Action Center and send an E-MAIL MESSAGE to your members of Congress in both the House and Senate. This process is simple, largely automated, and easy to do. > > Whenever possible, all DCs and patients should continue to lobby their members of Congress, and where possible make local visits to congressional offices and take part in “town hall†type meetings over the recess period. ACA has prepared a Tool Kit that all DCs should become familiar with and use when meeting with their federal legislators. The Tool Kit will be updated regularly; in addition, we will promote ACA updates on health care reform at www.acatoday.org/hcr. > > Additionally, in order to help better inform ACA Members regarding the most recent developments, ACA GR staff are now filming and posting a brief video update report. New video updates will be posted periodically, usually on a weekly basis. The most recent version update was posted August 12th. > > Are You Supporting the ChiroVoice Project †" Or Sitting on the Sidelines? > > Patients are our profession’s secret weapon. Mobilizing them to support issues of chiropractic concern can help “level the playing field†and make us a more influential and competitive lobbying force in Washington. But patient mobilization can’t take place if you are a “sideliner††" sitting to the side and not supporting your profession’s patient mobilization campaign. It remains extremely important that DCs continue to support and participate in the CHIROVOICE project to construct and activate a national database of chiropractic patients, via their e-mail addresses. > > There is no reason to delay †" and every reason for you to get involved with this important project today if you have not already done so. Go to this link for all the information you need to support the development and activation of this important patient-centered lobbying resource. We need 100% participation for this important project which is intended to develop into a permanent, ever expanding grassroots resource that can be activated to support chiropractic issues on a nationwide basis. > > If you have any questions about this bulletin or any federal legislative issues involving chiropractic please do not hesitate to contact us at gr@... > > > > > > > > > > > Copyright © American Chiropractic Association | 1701 Clarendon Blvd. Arlington, VA 22209 | 703 276 8800. > > > > > > > > > > If you would rather not receive future communications from American Chiropractic Assocation, let us know by clicking here. > American Chiropractic Assocation, 1701 Clarendon Boulevard 2nd Floor, Arlington, VA 22209 United States > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.56/2302 - Release Date: 08/14/09 06:10:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 How nice to read a positive-toned posting ..... I, too, am concerned but not afraid. Learning that BC/BS has started another study (similar to the one they already did that had such GREAT positives coming out of it) I am heartened that we will survive .... and, more than that....we will THRIVE! While I don't have any more facts that anyone else, I sense that we will, in the end, be well. Sunny Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7CEugene, Oregon, 97401541- 654-0850; Fx; 541- 654-0834 vsaboe@...CC: From: bluepearl2001@...Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:30:59 -0400Subject: Re: Re: Fw: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update I know what I'm about to share may strike some of you as Pollyanna-ish or WhooWhoo, but here goes anyway:Almost every post I read presents a doom and gloom picture about how Chiropractors will be "cut", "sidelined", "eliminated", "burned", "trashed", etc, etc. Gives me a headache just to think about it...Geez, take a deep breath. And have a little FAITH!!There is a school of thought that says:"What you think about--especially if it's backed with strong emotion/passion--IS WHAT YOU GET".So my 'repetitive internal tape' goes something like this:THERE IS ROOM FOR EVERYONE AT THE TABLE. No fear, no negative catastrophic thinking for me, thank you very much. And I DO understand that THERE IS WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE to assure that there is a place for Chiropractors at the table. But that work needs to be backed with positive, passionate faith and expectation. Hope you'll join me. Amen.Ann , DC :>) Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. Try Bing now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 How nice to read a positive-toned posting ..... I, too, am concerned but not afraid. Learning that BC/BS has started another study (similar to the one they already did that had such GREAT positives coming out of it) I am heartened that we will survive .... and, more than that....we will THRIVE! While I don't have any more facts that anyone else, I sense that we will, in the end, be well. Sunny Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7CEugene, Oregon, 97401541- 654-0850; Fx; 541- 654-0834 vsaboe@...CC: From: bluepearl2001@...Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:30:59 -0400Subject: Re: Re: Fw: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update I know what I'm about to share may strike some of you as Pollyanna-ish or WhooWhoo, but here goes anyway:Almost every post I read presents a doom and gloom picture about how Chiropractors will be "cut", "sidelined", "eliminated", "burned", "trashed", etc, etc. Gives me a headache just to think about it...Geez, take a deep breath. And have a little FAITH!!There is a school of thought that says:"What you think about--especially if it's backed with strong emotion/passion--IS WHAT YOU GET".So my 'repetitive internal tape' goes something like this:THERE IS ROOM FOR EVERYONE AT THE TABLE. No fear, no negative catastrophic thinking for me, thank you very much. And I DO understand that THERE IS WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE to assure that there is a place for Chiropractors at the table. But that work needs to be backed with positive, passionate faith and expectation. Hope you'll join me. Amen.Ann , DC :>) Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. Try Bing now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Dear Ann, You hit the nail on the head. This is a quantum mechanical universe at every level at which it manifests. It is , as physicist Archibald Wheeler told us a universe in which the prime directive is “observer-participancy”. That means that we draw into our everyday reality that to which we attune our faith, confidence, and belief as used to say, out of a void of infinite potential. Forget this, and we’re lost in a sea of chaos and delusion. Unfortunately, our society and the world at large doesn’t get it. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to look around and see the atmosphere of fear and hatred that contaminates the thinking of those with the loudest voices. I understand that the secret service is now very worried about the possibility of presidential assassination. Neo-nazi and other right wing hate groups are thriving and seeking to dose us all with their poison. Lies about “death panels” and similar hysteria abound. The only sane thing we can all do is observe the process and participate in a positive way to steer the outcome in the best possible direction. S. Feinberg, D.C. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of bluepearl2001@... Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:31 AM vsaboe@... Cc: Subject: Re: Re: Fw: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update I know what I'm about to share may strike some of you as Pollyanna-ish or WhooWhoo, but here goes anyway: Almost every post I read presents a doom and gloom picture about how Chiropractors will be " cut " , " sidelined " , " eliminated " , " burned " , " trashed " , etc, etc. Gives me a headache just to think about it... Geez, take a deep breath. And have a little FAITH!! There is a school of thought that says: " What you think about--especially if it's backed with strong emotion/passion--IS WHAT YOU GET " . So my 'repetitive internal tape' goes something like this: THERE IS ROOM FOR EVERYONE AT THE TABLE. No fear, no negative catastrophic thinking for me, thank you very much. And I DO understand that THERE IS WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE to assure that there is a place for Chiropractors at the table. But that work needs to be backed with positive, passionate faith and expectation. Hope you'll join me. Amen. Ann , DC :>) No viruses found in this incoming message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.7.1 http://www.iolo.com No viruses found in this outgoing messageScanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.7.1http://www.iolo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Greetings Everyone:I've been reading all the posts regarding the Proposed National Health Care System and both sides make interesting points.I just want to point out to you younger folks that may either not remember the SAIF debacle in 1990 or were not yet practicing, but the arguments were similar. There was a push to trust our government and the workers' comp system because, after all, we would all be treated fairly. There surely was room for all of us. Surprise! Well, I didn't trust them then, and I don't trust them (now the feds) now. Never again!Through the process of incrementalism our government will continue to minimize our ability to treat our patients adequately and our patients ability to choose the treatment they want.While I do agree our health care system can use some work, it shouldn't be at the hands of the feds. It should be private enterprise and real competition in the market place that will improve our system. We have a national election in less than fifteen months. We have the ability to fire every single incumbent representative and one third of the senators. I'm weary of being told what I want to hear and then being abused by our elected officials. Neil R. Cohen, D.C.Dundee Chiropractic Re: Re: Fw: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update I know what I'm about to share may strike some of you as Pollyanna-ish or WhooWhoo, but here goes anyway: Almost every post I read presents a doom and gloom picture about how Chiropractors will be "cut", "sidelined", "eliminated", "burned", "trashed", etc, etc. Gives me a headache just to think about it... Geez, take a deep breath. And have a little FAITH!! There is a school of thought that says: "What you think about--especially if it's backed with strong emotion/passion--IS WHAT YOU GET". So my 'repetitive internal tape' goes something like this: THERE IS ROOM FOR EVERYONE AT THE TABLE. No fear, no negative catastrophic thinking for me, thank you very much. And I DO understand that THERE IS WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE to assure that there is a place for Chiropractors at the table. But that work needs to be backed with positive, passionate faith and expectation. Hope you'll join me. Amen. Ann , DC :>) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Greetings Everyone:I've been reading all the posts regarding the Proposed National Health Care System and both sides make interesting points.I just want to point out to you younger folks that may either not remember the SAIF debacle in 1990 or were not yet practicing, but the arguments were similar. There was a push to trust our government and the workers' comp system because, after all, we would all be treated fairly. There surely was room for all of us. Surprise! Well, I didn't trust them then, and I don't trust them (now the feds) now. Never again!Through the process of incrementalism our government will continue to minimize our ability to treat our patients adequately and our patients ability to choose the treatment they want.While I do agree our health care system can use some work, it shouldn't be at the hands of the feds. It should be private enterprise and real competition in the market place that will improve our system. We have a national election in less than fifteen months. We have the ability to fire every single incumbent representative and one third of the senators. I'm weary of being told what I want to hear and then being abused by our elected officials. Neil R. Cohen, D.C.Dundee Chiropractic Re: Re: Fw: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update I know what I'm about to share may strike some of you as Pollyanna-ish or WhooWhoo, but here goes anyway: Almost every post I read presents a doom and gloom picture about how Chiropractors will be "cut", "sidelined", "eliminated", "burned", "trashed", etc, etc. Gives me a headache just to think about it... Geez, take a deep breath. And have a little FAITH!! There is a school of thought that says: "What you think about--especially if it's backed with strong emotion/passion--IS WHAT YOU GET". So my 'repetitive internal tape' goes something like this: THERE IS ROOM FOR EVERYONE AT THE TABLE. No fear, no negative catastrophic thinking for me, thank you very much. And I DO understand that THERE IS WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE to assure that there is a place for Chiropractors at the table. But that work needs to be backed with positive, passionate faith and expectation. Hope you'll join me. Amen. Ann , DC :>) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 And I get the SAIF reference. I was at WSCC at the time and if was painful to watch that go down. Again, if that is the immediate fallback feeling/memory that is focused on with passion and emotion, well.... here we go again. Just my two cents worth. Ann Re: Re: Fw: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update Greetings Everyone: I've been reading all the posts regarding the Proposed National Health Care System and both sides make interesting points. I just want to point out to you younger folks that may either not remember the SAIF debacle in 1990 or were not yet practicing, but the arguments were similar. There was a push to trust our government and the workers' comp system because, after all, we would all be treated fairly. There surely was room for all of us. Surprise! Well, I didn't trust them then, and I don't trust them (now the feds) now. Never again! Through the process of incrementalism our government will continue to minimize our ability to treat our patients adequately and our patients ability to choose the treatment they want. While I do agree our health care system can use some work, it shouldn't be at the hands of the feds. It should be private enterprise and real competition in the market place that will improve our system. We have a national election in less than fifteen months. We have the ability to fire every single incumbent representative and one third of the senators. I'm weary of being told what I want to hear and then being abused by our elected officials. Neil R. Cohen, D.C. Dundee Chiropractic Re: Re: Fw: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update I know what I'm about to share may strike some of you as Pollyanna-ish or WhooWhoo, but here goes anyway: Almost every post I read presents a doom and gloom picture about how Chiropractors will be "cut", "sidelined", "eliminated", "burned", "trashed", etc, etc. Gives me a headache just to think about it... Geez, take a deep breath. And have a little FAITH!! There is a school of thought that says: "What you think about--especially if it's backed with strong emotion/passion--IS WHAT YOU GET". So my 'repetitive internal tape' goes something like this: THERE IS ROOM FOR EVERYONE AT THE TABLE. No fear, no negative catastrophic thinking for me, thank you very much. And I DO understand that THERE IS WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE to assure that there is a place for Chiropractors at the table. But that work needs to be backed with positive, passionate faith and expectation. Hope you'll join me. Amen. Ann , DC :>) Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 And I get the SAIF reference. I was at WSCC at the time and if was painful to watch that go down. Again, if that is the immediate fallback feeling/memory that is focused on with passion and emotion, well.... here we go again. Just my two cents worth. Ann Re: Re: Fw: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update Greetings Everyone: I've been reading all the posts regarding the Proposed National Health Care System and both sides make interesting points. I just want to point out to you younger folks that may either not remember the SAIF debacle in 1990 or were not yet practicing, but the arguments were similar. There was a push to trust our government and the workers' comp system because, after all, we would all be treated fairly. There surely was room for all of us. Surprise! Well, I didn't trust them then, and I don't trust them (now the feds) now. Never again! Through the process of incrementalism our government will continue to minimize our ability to treat our patients adequately and our patients ability to choose the treatment they want. While I do agree our health care system can use some work, it shouldn't be at the hands of the feds. It should be private enterprise and real competition in the market place that will improve our system. We have a national election in less than fifteen months. We have the ability to fire every single incumbent representative and one third of the senators. I'm weary of being told what I want to hear and then being abused by our elected officials. Neil R. Cohen, D.C. Dundee Chiropractic Re: Re: Fw: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update I know what I'm about to share may strike some of you as Pollyanna-ish or WhooWhoo, but here goes anyway: Almost every post I read presents a doom and gloom picture about how Chiropractors will be "cut", "sidelined", "eliminated", "burned", "trashed", etc, etc. Gives me a headache just to think about it... Geez, take a deep breath. And have a little FAITH!! There is a school of thought that says: "What you think about--especially if it's backed with strong emotion/passion--IS WHAT YOU GET". So my 'repetitive internal tape' goes something like this: THERE IS ROOM FOR EVERYONE AT THE TABLE. No fear, no negative catastrophic thinking for me, thank you very much. And I DO understand that THERE IS WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE to assure that there is a place for Chiropractors at the table. But that work needs to be backed with positive, passionate faith and expectation. Hope you'll join me. Amen. Ann , DC :>) Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Hi Neil, Good to hear from you. Your words and thoughts are well taken .... but.....asking the public arena to correct itselt seems highly unrealistic....isn't that the proverbial fox in the hen house?! With their sense of (demanded) profitability and the BCBS demo of how (full) participation by DCs would effect the market, you don't really believe they would be kind to us out of the goodness of their hearts, do you?! that scenario cuts much too much out of their daily pay check. Doesn't that leave us with the govt to 'lay down the law'? Sunny\ Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7CEugene, Oregon, 97401541- 654-0850; Fx; 541- 654-0834 bluepearl2001@...CC: ; vsaboe@...From: neroco2@...Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:06:22 +0000Subject: Re: Re: Fw: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update Greetings Everyone:I've been reading all the posts regarding the Proposed National Health Care System and both sides make interesting points.I just want to point out to you younger folks that may either not remember the SAIF debacle in 1990 or were not yet practicing, but the arguments were similar. There was a push to trust our government and the workers' comp system because, after all, we would all be treated fairly. There surely was room for all of us. Surprise! Well, I didn't trust them then, and I don't trust them (now the feds) now. Never again!Through the process of incrementalism our government will continue to minimize our ability to treat our patients adequately and our patients ability to choose the treatment they want.While I do agree our health care system can use some work, it shouldn't be at the hands of the feds. It should be private enterprise and real competition in the market place that will improve our system. We have a national election in less than fifteen months. We have the ability to fire every single incumbent representative and one third of the senators. I'm weary of being told what I want to hear and then being abused by our elected officials. Neil R. Cohen, D.C.Dundee Chiropractic Re: Re: Fw: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update I know what I'm about to share may strike some of you as Pollyanna-ish or WhooWhoo, but here goes anyway:Almost every post I read presents a doom and gloom picture about how Chiropractors will be "cut", "sidelined", "eliminated", "burned", "trashed", etc, etc. Gives me a headache just to think about it...Geez, take a deep breath. And have a little FAITH!!There is a school of thought that says:"What you think about--especially if it's backed with strong emotion/passion--IS WHAT YOU GET".So my 'repetitive internal tape' goes something like this:THERE IS ROOM FOR EVERYONE AT THE TABLE. No fear, no negative catastrophic thinking for me, thank you very much. And I DO understand that THERE IS WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE to assure that there is a place for Chiropractors at the table. But that work needs to be backed with positive, passionate faith and expectation. Hope you'll join me. Amen.Ann , DC :>) Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Hi Neil, Good to hear from you. Your words and thoughts are well taken .... but.....asking the public arena to correct itselt seems highly unrealistic....isn't that the proverbial fox in the hen house?! With their sense of (demanded) profitability and the BCBS demo of how (full) participation by DCs would effect the market, you don't really believe they would be kind to us out of the goodness of their hearts, do you?! that scenario cuts much too much out of their daily pay check. Doesn't that leave us with the govt to 'lay down the law'? Sunny\ Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7CEugene, Oregon, 97401541- 654-0850; Fx; 541- 654-0834 bluepearl2001@...CC: ; vsaboe@...From: neroco2@...Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:06:22 +0000Subject: Re: Re: Fw: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update Greetings Everyone:I've been reading all the posts regarding the Proposed National Health Care System and both sides make interesting points.I just want to point out to you younger folks that may either not remember the SAIF debacle in 1990 or were not yet practicing, but the arguments were similar. There was a push to trust our government and the workers' comp system because, after all, we would all be treated fairly. There surely was room for all of us. Surprise! Well, I didn't trust them then, and I don't trust them (now the feds) now. Never again!Through the process of incrementalism our government will continue to minimize our ability to treat our patients adequately and our patients ability to choose the treatment they want.While I do agree our health care system can use some work, it shouldn't be at the hands of the feds. It should be private enterprise and real competition in the market place that will improve our system. We have a national election in less than fifteen months. We have the ability to fire every single incumbent representative and one third of the senators. I'm weary of being told what I want to hear and then being abused by our elected officials. Neil R. Cohen, D.C.Dundee Chiropractic Re: Re: Fw: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update I know what I'm about to share may strike some of you as Pollyanna-ish or WhooWhoo, but here goes anyway:Almost every post I read presents a doom and gloom picture about how Chiropractors will be "cut", "sidelined", "eliminated", "burned", "trashed", etc, etc. Gives me a headache just to think about it...Geez, take a deep breath. And have a little FAITH!!There is a school of thought that says:"What you think about--especially if it's backed with strong emotion/passion--IS WHAT YOU GET".So my 'repetitive internal tape' goes something like this:THERE IS ROOM FOR EVERYONE AT THE TABLE. No fear, no negative catastrophic thinking for me, thank you very much. And I DO understand that THERE IS WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE to assure that there is a place for Chiropractors at the table. But that work needs to be backed with positive, passionate faith and expectation. Hope you'll join me. Amen.Ann , DC :>) Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 My understanding is that they WANT DC's in their insurnance programs. We SAVE them money. Same for WC. It would be absurd to think that it was "public demand" or some great sense of "fairness" that moved them to include us in the first place. We're in the insurance provider mix because it's profitable for the insurance companies. Ann Re: Re: Fw: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update Greetings Everyone: I've been reading all the posts regarding the Proposed National Health Care System and both sides make interesting points. I just want to point out to you younger folks that may either not remember the SAIF debacle in 1990 or were not yet practicing, but the arguments were similar. There was a push to trust our government and the workers' comp system because, after all, we would all20be treated fairly. There surely was room for all of us. Surprise! Well, I didn't trust them then, and I don't trust them (now the feds) now. Never again! Through the process of incrementalism our government will continue to minimize our ability to treat our patients adequately and our patients ability to choose the treatment they want. While I do agree our health care system can use some work, it shouldn't be at the hands of the feds. It should be private enterprise and real competition in the market place that will improve our system. We have a national election in less than fifteen months. We have the ability to fire every single incumbent representative and one third of the senators. I'm weary of being told what I want to hear and then being abused by our elected officials. Neil R. Cohen, D.C. Dundee Chiropractic Re: Re: Fw: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update I know what I'm about to share may strike some of you as Pollyanna-ish or WhooWhoo, but here goes anyway: Almost every post I read presents a doom and gloom pictur e about how Chiropractors will be "cut", "sidelined", "eliminated", "burned", "trashed", etc, etc. Gives me a headache just to think about it... Geez, take a deep breath. And have a little FAITH!! There is a school of thought that says: "What you think about--especially if it's backed with strong emotion/passion--IS WHAT YOU GET". So my 'repetitive internal tape' goes something like this: THERE IS ROOM FOR EVERYONE AT THE TABLE. No fear, no negative catastrophic thinking for me, thank you very much. And I DO understand that THERE IS WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE to assure that there is a place for Chiropractors at the table. But that work needs to be backed with positive, passionate faith and expectation. Hope you'll join me. Amen. Ann , DC :>) Windows Liveâ„¢: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 My understanding is that they WANT DC's in their insurnance programs. We SAVE them money. Same for WC. It would be absurd to think that it was "public demand" or some great sense of "fairness" that moved them to include us in the first place. We're in the insurance provider mix because it's profitable for the insurance companies. Ann Re: Re: Fw: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update Greetings Everyone: I've been reading all the posts regarding the Proposed National Health Care System and both sides make interesting points. I just want to point out to you younger folks that may either not remember the SAIF debacle in 1990 or were not yet practicing, but the arguments were similar. There was a push to trust our government and the workers' comp system because, after all, we would all20be treated fairly. There surely was room for all of us. Surprise! Well, I didn't trust them then, and I don't trust them (now the feds) now. Never again! Through the process of incrementalism our government will continue to minimize our ability to treat our patients adequately and our patients ability to choose the treatment they want. While I do agree our health care system can use some work, it shouldn't be at the hands of the feds. It should be private enterprise and real competition in the market place that will improve our system. We have a national election in less than fifteen months. We have the ability to fire every single incumbent representative and one third of the senators. I'm weary of being told what I want to hear and then being abused by our elected officials. Neil R. Cohen, D.C. Dundee Chiropractic Re: Re: Fw: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update I know what I'm about to share may strike some of you as Pollyanna-ish or WhooWhoo, but here goes anyway: Almost every post I read presents a doom and gloom pictur e about how Chiropractors will be "cut", "sidelined", "eliminated", "burned", "trashed", etc, etc. Gives me a headache just to think about it... Geez, take a deep breath. And have a little FAITH!! There is a school of thought that says: "What you think about--especially if it's backed with strong emotion/passion--IS WHAT YOU GET". So my 'repetitive internal tape' goes something like this: THERE IS ROOM FOR EVERYONE AT THE TABLE. No fear, no negative catastrophic thinking for me, thank you very much. And I DO understand that THERE IS WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE to assure that there is a place for Chiropractors at the table. But that work needs to be backed with positive, passionate faith and expectation. Hope you'll join me. Amen. Ann , DC :>) Windows Liveâ„¢: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Greetings Neil. I am with you. I think it is appropriate to mention to folks that you have special, first hand experience with gov't bureaucratic culture in that you were an elected official as mayor of a small town. We both know that at even the small town level, there is an inherent and incessant drive for gov't to validate itself at every turn. I was once more confident in the Feds like my wonderful old teacher and friend Ann w. In fact anyone can read my optimistic posts re. Medicare from 10 years ago and see for themselves. But 4 years of sitting in those Medicare carrier advisory committees as our profession's rep. had a profound impact on me. I saw and experienced a stubborness and righteousness that was new to me. I event ually lost my faith in these embedded public employees to facilitate logical change. , neroco2@... wrote: > > Greetings Everyone: > > I've been reading all the posts regarding the Proposed National Health Care System and both sides make interesting points. > > I just want to point out to you younger folks that may either not remember the SAIF debacle in 1990 or were not yet practicing, but the arguments were similar. There was a push to trust our government and the workers' comp system because, after all, we would all be treated fairly. There surely was room for all of us. Surprise! > > Well, I didn't trust them then, and I don't trust them (now the feds) now. Never again! > > Through the process of incrementalism our government will continue to minimize our ability to treat our patients adequately and our patients ability to choose the treatment they want. > > While I do agree our health care system can use some work, it shouldn't be at the hands of the feds. It should be private enterprise and real competition in the market place that will improve our system. > > We have a national election in less than fifteen months. We have the ability to fire every single incumbent representative and one third of the senators. > > I'm weary of being told what I want to hear and then being abused by our elected officials. > > Neil R. Cohen, D.C. > Dundee Chiropractic > > Re: [From OregonDCs ] Re: Fw : From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update > > > > > > > I know what I'm about to share may strike some of you as Pollyanna-ish or WhooWhoo , but here goes anyway: > > Almost every post I read presents a doom and gloom picture about how Chiropractors will be " cut " , " sidelined " , " eliminated " , " burned " , " trashed " , etc, etc. > > Gives me a headache just to think about it... > Geez , take a deep breath. And have a little FAITH!! > > There is a school of thought that says: > " What you think about--especially if it's backed with strong emotion/passion--IS WHAT YOU GET " . > > So my 'repetitive internal tape' goes something like this: > THERE IS ROOM FOR EVERYONE AT THE TABLE. > No fear, no negative catastrophic thinking for me, thank you very much. > > And I DO understand that THERE IS WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE to assure that there is a place for Chiropractors at the table. But that work needs to be backed with positive, passionate faith and expectation. > > Hope you'll join me. > Amen. > Ann , DC :>) > __ ._,_. __ _ > Messages in this topic ( 5 ) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar > All posts must adhere to OregonDCs rules located on homepage at: http :///group/ / > Tell a colleague about OregonDCs ! (must be licensed Oregon DC) > > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > > > > Recent Activity > > Visit Your Group > > > > Give Back > > for Good > > Get inspired > > by a good cause. > > Y! Toolbar > > Get it Free! > > easy 1-click access > > to your groups. > > > > Start a group > > in 3 easy steps. > > Connect with others. > . > > __ ,_._, __ _ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Greetings Neil. I am with you. I think it is appropriate to mention to folks that you have special, first hand experience with gov't bureaucratic culture in that you were an elected official as mayor of a small town. We both know that at even the small town level, there is an inherent and incessant drive for gov't to validate itself at every turn. I was once more confident in the Feds like my wonderful old teacher and friend Ann w. In fact anyone can read my optimistic posts re. Medicare from 10 years ago and see for themselves. But 4 years of sitting in those Medicare carrier advisory committees as our profession's rep. had a profound impact on me. I saw and experienced a stubborness and righteousness that was new to me. I event ually lost my faith in these embedded public employees to facilitate logical change. , neroco2@... wrote: > > Greetings Everyone: > > I've been reading all the posts regarding the Proposed National Health Care System and both sides make interesting points. > > I just want to point out to you younger folks that may either not remember the SAIF debacle in 1990 or were not yet practicing, but the arguments were similar. There was a push to trust our government and the workers' comp system because, after all, we would all be treated fairly. There surely was room for all of us. Surprise! > > Well, I didn't trust them then, and I don't trust them (now the feds) now. Never again! > > Through the process of incrementalism our government will continue to minimize our ability to treat our patients adequately and our patients ability to choose the treatment they want. > > While I do agree our health care system can use some work, it shouldn't be at the hands of the feds. It should be private enterprise and real competition in the market place that will improve our system. > > We have a national election in less than fifteen months. We have the ability to fire every single incumbent representative and one third of the senators. > > I'm weary of being told what I want to hear and then being abused by our elected officials. > > Neil R. Cohen, D.C. > Dundee Chiropractic > > Re: [From OregonDCs ] Re: Fw : From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update > > > > > > > I know what I'm about to share may strike some of you as Pollyanna-ish or WhooWhoo , but here goes anyway: > > Almost every post I read presents a doom and gloom picture about how Chiropractors will be " cut " , " sidelined " , " eliminated " , " burned " , " trashed " , etc, etc. > > Gives me a headache just to think about it... > Geez , take a deep breath. And have a little FAITH!! > > There is a school of thought that says: > " What you think about--especially if it's backed with strong emotion/passion--IS WHAT YOU GET " . > > So my 'repetitive internal tape' goes something like this: > THERE IS ROOM FOR EVERYONE AT THE TABLE. > No fear, no negative catastrophic thinking for me, thank you very much. > > And I DO understand that THERE IS WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE to assure that there is a place for Chiropractors at the table. But that work needs to be backed with positive, passionate faith and expectation. > > Hope you'll join me. > Amen. > Ann , DC :>) > __ ._,_. __ _ > Messages in this topic ( 5 ) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar > All posts must adhere to OregonDCs rules located on homepage at: http :///group/ / > Tell a colleague about OregonDCs ! (must be licensed Oregon DC) > > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > > > > Recent Activity > > Visit Your Group > > > > Give Back > > for Good > > Get inspired > > by a good cause. > > Y! Toolbar > > Get it Free! > > easy 1-click access > > to your groups. > > > > Start a group > > in 3 easy steps. > > Connect with others. > . > > __ ,_._, __ _ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Thank you Neil and for your enlightening comments. Reaching back a bit further into the mid 60's when we were on the verge of medicare inclusion we were told by our association reps in D.C. that we could be participants in the program at that time but wouldn't be paid for Xrays, however if we waited about a year we would then be compensated for the films. Well folks over 40 years have passed and it still hasn't happened. Obviously the stubborness and rightousness that you write about is still very much alive,thriving and running much of the show in D.C. Herb Freeman D.C. Re: [From OregonDCs ] Re: Fw : From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update > > > > > > > I know what I'm about to share may strike some of you as Pollyanna-ish or WhooWhoo , but here goes anyway: > > Almost every post I read presents a doom and gloom picture about how Chiropractors will be "cut", "sidelined", "eliminated", "burned", "trashed", etc, etc. > > Gives me a headache just to think about it... > Geez , take a deep breath. And have a little FAITH!! > > There is a school of thought that says: > "What you think about--especially if it's backed with strong emotion/passion--IS WHAT YOU GET". > > So my 'repetitive internal tape' goes something like this: > THERE IS ROOM FOR EVERYONE AT THE TABLE. > No fear, no negative catastrophic thinking for me, thank you very much. > > And I DO understand that THERE IS WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE to assure that there is a place for Chiropractors at the table. But that work needs to be backed with positive, passionate faith and expectation. > > Hope you'll join me. > Amen. > Ann , DC :>) > __ ._,_. __ _ > Messages in this topic ( 5 ) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar > All posts must adhere to OregonDCs rules located on homepage at: http :///group/ / > Tell a colleague about OregonDCs ! (must be licensed Oregon DC) > > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > > > > Recent Activity > > Visit Your Group > > > > Give Back > > for Good > > Get inspired > > by a good cause. > > Y! Toolbar > > Get it Free! > > easy 1-click access > > to your groups. > > > > Start a group > > in 3 easy steps. > > Connect with others. > . > > __ ,_._, __ _> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Thank you Neil and for your enlightening comments. Reaching back a bit further into the mid 60's when we were on the verge of medicare inclusion we were told by our association reps in D.C. that we could be participants in the program at that time but wouldn't be paid for Xrays, however if we waited about a year we would then be compensated for the films. Well folks over 40 years have passed and it still hasn't happened. Obviously the stubborness and rightousness that you write about is still very much alive,thriving and running much of the show in D.C. Herb Freeman D.C. Re: [From OregonDCs ] Re: Fw : From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update > > > > > > > I know what I'm about to share may strike some of you as Pollyanna-ish or WhooWhoo , but here goes anyway: > > Almost every post I read presents a doom and gloom picture about how Chiropractors will be "cut", "sidelined", "eliminated", "burned", "trashed", etc, etc. > > Gives me a headache just to think about it... > Geez , take a deep breath. And have a little FAITH!! > > There is a school of thought that says: > "What you think about--especially if it's backed with strong emotion/passion--IS WHAT YOU GET". > > So my 'repetitive internal tape' goes something like this: > THERE IS ROOM FOR EVERYONE AT THE TABLE. > No fear, no negative catastrophic thinking for me, thank you very much. > > And I DO understand that THERE IS WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE to assure that there is a place for Chiropractors at the table. But that work needs to be backed with positive, passionate faith and expectation. > > Hope you'll join me. > Amen. > Ann , DC :>) > __ ._,_. __ _ > Messages in this topic ( 5 ) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar > All posts must adhere to OregonDCs rules located on homepage at: http :///group/ / > Tell a colleague about OregonDCs ! (must be licensed Oregon DC) > > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > > > > Recent Activity > > Visit Your Group > > > > Give Back > > for Good > > Get inspired > > by a good cause. > > Y! Toolbar > > Get it Free! > > easy 1-click access > > to your groups. > > > > Start a group > > in 3 easy steps. > > Connect with others. > . > > __ ,_._, __ _> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Well your wonderful old teacher and friend, Ann W., gets it. Further, I honor the time you put in on the Medicare committee. Believe me, I'm just a cynical as any of us. So much so that it was making me sick. So I've chosen a path of non-resistance and I fully expect that we, as chiropractors will be okay. I know that I and my practice will be okay. "There is room for everyone at the table." And I am not blind. I see WHO is running this country. Can make my blood boil. That also makes me sick and does not serve my life or my practice. So while my path may not be compatible with the warrior in you, I honor your path. And I walk mine with confidence and peace. Your respectful teacher and friend, Ann W. Re: Fw: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update Greetings Neil. I am with you. I think it is appropriate to mention to folks that you have special, first hand experience with gov't bureaucratic culture in that you were an elected official as mayor of a small town. We both know that at even the small town level, there is an inherent and incessant drive for gov't to validate itself at every turn. I was once more confident in the Feds like my wonderful old teacher and friend Ann w. In fact anyone can read my optimistic posts re. Medicare from 10 years ago and see for themselves. But 4 years of sitting in those Medicare carrier advisory committees as our profession's rep. had a profound impact on me. I saw and experienced a stubborness and righteousness that was new to me. I event ually lost my faith in these embedded public employees to facilitate logical change. , neroco2@... wrote: > > Greetings Everyone: > > I've been reading all the posts regarding the Proposed National Health Care System and both sides make interesting points. > > I just want to point out to you younger folks that may either not remember the SAIF debacle in 1990 or were not yet practicing, but the arguments were similar. There was a push to trust our government and the workers' comp system because, after all, we would all be treated fairly. There surely was room for all of us. Surprise! > > Well, I didn't trust them then, and I don't trust them (now the feds) now. Never again! > > Through the process of incrementalism our government will continue to minimize our ability to treat our patients adequately and our patients ability to choose the treatment they want. > > While I do agree our health care system can use some work, it shouldn't be at the hands of the feds. It should be private enterprise and real competition in the market place that will improve our system. > > We have a national election in less than fifteen months. We have the ability to fire every single incumbent representative and one third of the senators. > > I'm weary of being told what I want to hear and then being abused by our elected officials. > > Neil R. Cohen, D.C. > Dundee Chiropractic > > Re: [From OregonDCs ] Re: Fw : From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update > > > > > > > I know what I'm about to share may strike some of you as Pollyanna-ish or WhooWhoo , but here goes anyway: > > Almost every post I read presents a doom and gloom picture about how Chiropractors will be "cut", "sidelined", "eliminated", "burned", "trashed", etc, etc. > > Gives me a headache just to think about it... > Geez , take a deep breath. And have a little FAITH!! > > There is a school of thought that says: > "What you think about--especially if it's backed with strong emotion/passion--IS WHAT YOU GET". > > So my 'repetitive internal tape' goes something like this: > THERE IS ROOM FOR EVERYONE AT THE TABLE. > No fear, no negative catastrophic thinking for me, thank you very much. > > And I DO understand that THERE IS WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE to assure that there is a place for Chiropractors at the table. But that work needs to be backed with positive, passionate faith and expectation. > > Hope you'll join me. > Amen. > Ann , DC :>) > __ ._,_. __ _ > Messages in this topic ( 5 ) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar > All posts must adhere to OregonDCs rules located on homepage at: http :///group/ / > Tell a colleague about OregonDCs ! (must be licensed Oregon DC) > > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > > > > Recent Activity > > Visit Your Group > > > > Give Back > > for Good > > Get inspired > > by a good cause. > > Y! Toolbar > > Get it Free! > > easy 1-click access > > to your groups. > > > > Start a group > > in 3 easy steps. > > Connect with others. > . > > __ ,_._, __ _ > Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Well your wonderful old teacher and friend, Ann W., gets it. Further, I honor the time you put in on the Medicare committee. Believe me, I'm just a cynical as any of us. So much so that it was making me sick. So I've chosen a path of non-resistance and I fully expect that we, as chiropractors will be okay. I know that I and my practice will be okay. "There is room for everyone at the table." And I am not blind. I see WHO is running this country. Can make my blood boil. That also makes me sick and does not serve my life or my practice. So while my path may not be compatible with the warrior in you, I honor your path. And I walk mine with confidence and peace. Your respectful teacher and friend, Ann W. Re: Fw: From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update Greetings Neil. I am with you. I think it is appropriate to mention to folks that you have special, first hand experience with gov't bureaucratic culture in that you were an elected official as mayor of a small town. We both know that at even the small town level, there is an inherent and incessant drive for gov't to validate itself at every turn. I was once more confident in the Feds like my wonderful old teacher and friend Ann w. In fact anyone can read my optimistic posts re. Medicare from 10 years ago and see for themselves. But 4 years of sitting in those Medicare carrier advisory committees as our profession's rep. had a profound impact on me. I saw and experienced a stubborness and righteousness that was new to me. I event ually lost my faith in these embedded public employees to facilitate logical change. , neroco2@... wrote: > > Greetings Everyone: > > I've been reading all the posts regarding the Proposed National Health Care System and both sides make interesting points. > > I just want to point out to you younger folks that may either not remember the SAIF debacle in 1990 or were not yet practicing, but the arguments were similar. There was a push to trust our government and the workers' comp system because, after all, we would all be treated fairly. There surely was room for all of us. Surprise! > > Well, I didn't trust them then, and I don't trust them (now the feds) now. Never again! > > Through the process of incrementalism our government will continue to minimize our ability to treat our patients adequately and our patients ability to choose the treatment they want. > > While I do agree our health care system can use some work, it shouldn't be at the hands of the feds. It should be private enterprise and real competition in the market place that will improve our system. > > We have a national election in less than fifteen months. We have the ability to fire every single incumbent representative and one third of the senators. > > I'm weary of being told what I want to hear and then being abused by our elected officials. > > Neil R. Cohen, D.C. > Dundee Chiropractic > > Re: [From OregonDCs ] Re: Fw : From Capitol Hill: Health Reform Update > > > > > > > I know what I'm about to share may strike some of you as Pollyanna-ish or WhooWhoo , but here goes anyway: > > Almost every post I read presents a doom and gloom picture about how Chiropractors will be "cut", "sidelined", "eliminated", "burned", "trashed", etc, etc. > > Gives me a headache just to think about it... > Geez , take a deep breath. And have a little FAITH!! > > There is a school of thought that says: > "What you think about--especially if it's backed with strong emotion/passion--IS WHAT YOU GET". > > So my 'repetitive internal tape' goes something like this: > THERE IS ROOM FOR EVERYONE AT THE TABLE. > No fear, no negative catastrophic thinking for me, thank you very much. > > And I DO understand that THERE IS WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE to assure that there is a place for Chiropractors at the table. But that work needs to be backed with positive, passionate faith and expectation. > > Hope you'll join me. > Amen. > Ann , DC :>) > __ ._,_. __ _ > Messages in this topic ( 5 ) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar > All posts must adhere to OregonDCs rules located on homepage at: http :///group/ / > Tell a colleague about OregonDCs ! (must be licensed Oregon DC) > > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > > > > Recent Activity > > Visit Your Group > > > > Give Back > > for Good > > Get inspired > > by a good cause. > > Y! Toolbar > > Get it Free! > > easy 1-click access > > to your groups. > > > > Start a group > > in 3 easy steps. > > Connect with others. > . > > __ ,_._, __ _ > Email message sent from CompuServe - visit us today at http://www.cs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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