Re: Ambergris Perfume Blend

[Guest guest]

> Amberi contains familiar ingredients such as choya (hydrodistilled

> from seashells), which reminds me of a campfire,

Speaking of Choya, I bought a tiny bit because I thought that I was going to

try to use it in an ocean mist blend.

I haven't a clue what I am doing here. Has anyone used Choya successfully in

a blend and what did you make?

I am not brave enough to start fiddling with it yet.

Dorothy

Dorothy McCall, Cert. Aroma.

Kingsbury Fragrances

The Royal York

3955 Bigelow Blvd. Ste. 907

Pittsburgh, PA. 15213

(412) 687-2720

www.kingsburyfragrances.com

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[Guest guest]

Hi Chris:

Has he researched a possible substitute? Depending on it's use, another

corresponding oil could be used.

From a perfumery standpoint rather than a spiritual one, several oils can be

used as a substitute for ambergris. Probably the closest to the actual

scent would be labdanum (cistus) with small amounts of benzoin absolute,

sandalwood and clary sage e.o.'s added. True ambergris is a foul-smelling

by-product of whales but upon dilution, develops a smoky, sweet scent that

made it a valuable fixative in perfumery.

The " amber " blends found in import and boutique shops are an attempt to

replicate this and while the formulas are considered a secret, they often

contain labdanum, benzoin, clary sage, sandalwood, balsam peru, vetiver and

a host of other scents carefully blended together.

While a synthetic ambergris oil is out of the question, it will give you an

idea of what the real thing smells like and you can use it as a reference in

your blending attempts.

Good luck!

Cat

> I had a friend contact me today, and he is making a spiritual oil

> blend that calls for " ambergris " . Now we both know of some

> synthetic " ambergris " oils available, but he wanted me to pass along

> this question to the natural perfumers - does anyone know of a good

> all natural " faux ambergris " blend that he could make up and use it

> in his spiritual blends calling for ambergris as an ingredient? He is

> wanting to get away from synthetic scents as much as possible and

> obviously he won't be getting any true ambergris for these blends .

[Guest guest]

> Speaking of Choya, I bought a tiny bit because I thought that I was

going to

> try to use it in an ocean mist blend.

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> I haven't a clue what I am doing here. Has anyone used Choya

successfully in

> a blend and what did you make?

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> I am not brave enough to start fiddling with it yet.

> Dorothy

It needs to be diluted heavily prior to use. Like say one drop choya

in 1/2 oz etoh kind of dilution. And then, when you're composing

your base, go easy and stop before you think you've added enough.

sara

[Guest guest]

Dorthy,

I bought some of this myself thinking it woulod be a nice blend for

an ocean scent.He it's from seashells right? No way! Much too

smokey. It does lend itself very nicely to leather blends.

Al