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Jo,

Swingle uses a ratio of highbeta divided by beta as a measure of hot

cingulate activity. Roughly speaking, the further below 0.45 the number is, the

more passive and unmotivated a client is likely to be; further above 0.55 the

more willful, stubborn and maybe compulsive.

Pete

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> From: " Neurofeedback Japan " <neurofeedback@...>

> Date: 2004/11/11 Thu PM 10:55:52 EST

> " ' Van Deusen' " <pvdtlc@...>

> Subject: Swingle Ratio

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> Pete,

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> What is Swingle Ratio? I found it in the Heads section of the Analyze page

> of assessment.

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This is a special version of the assessment for BioExplorer users who have

completed the trainers practicum. Its easy enough to calculate it from the

heads page on the other versions.

Pete

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> From: " P. Dal Cerro, Ph.D. " <gauge2_99@...>

> Date: 2004/11/18 Thu AM 08:15:54 EST

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> Subject: Re: Swingle Ratio

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The Swingle Ratio relates to the cingulate, so it is only at Fz

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> From: " P. Dal Cerro, Ph.D. " <gauge2_99@...>

> Date: 2004/11/18 Thu AM 08:15:54 EST

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> Subject: Re: Swingle Ratio

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I was reviewing my notes and a tape from Pete's workshop II and

noticed the following on one of the slides labled Locking:

Swingle Ratio: FZ High Beta/Beta

* 0.45- 0.55 ok

* higher values, more strong-willed

* lower values, more passive

I don't remember this being discussed in my class and wondered if

someone could elaborate. My son's is about double this (and yes...he

is headstrong!)

Would I typically look at the percentage head or the amplitutde head

for this, or both? To address this issue, would one train down both

Beta & Hi Beta, or just Hi Beta at FZ?

Thanks,

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Hi again ,

Good find! Really, the swingle ratio is 1 or above?

You asked:

Would I typically look at the percentage head or the amplitutde head for this, or both?

Since you are looking for a relative measure (comparing FZ to F3 and F4) Percentages seem more logical a reading to me. But by looking at both, % and real you will get a better overall picture.

One thing about training locking. Pete's often suggested that we "let off steam" with temporal lobe training before taking on Locking manifestations. Go to this after you have done some other training that is showing a calming in body energy and a less reactive personality.

You asked:

would one train down both Beta & Hi Beta, or just Hi Beta at FZ? In that he's a kid, you could train down 20-38.

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Hi ,

It is a find I'm not sure I understand very well. In this

particular case, High Beta at FZ is 11.6, Beta is 10.5, so the

ratio is above 1. It is actually about the same using both heads.

As you well know, we are currently doing temporal lobe training.

Good to have reinforcement that we are doing the right thing! If

this pattern was in an adult, after " letting off steam " in the

temporal lobes, would you then train down High Beta 23-38 directly

at FZ? Or would it be better to do a bipolar placement between the

temporal lobes and FZ? Just curious.

As I go back through my notes from the workshop, there is so much

great information that I missed...I feel like I need to go through

the workshop again...and again...

Pete, have you ever considered writing a reference book on TLC? I

don't know about anyone else, but there is just so much great

information, it is hard to get a firm grasp on it!

Thanks,

> Hi again ,

>

> Good find! Really, the swingle ratio is 1 or above?

>

> You asked:

> Would I typically look at the percentage head or the amplitutde

head

> for this, or both?

>

> Since you are looking for a relative measure (comparing FZ

to F3

> and F4) Percentages seem more logical a reading to me. But by

looking at

> both, % and real you will get a better overall picture.

>

> One thing about training locking. Pete's often suggested that

we " let

> off steam " with temporal lobe training before taking on Locking

> manifestations. Go to this after you have done some other

training that

> is showing a calming in body energy and a less reactive

personality.

>

> You asked:

> would one train down both Beta & Hi Beta, or just Hi Beta at FZ?

> In that he's a kid, you could train down 20-38.

>

> Be well,

>

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> -----Original Mes sage-----

> >

> I was reviewing my notes and a tape from Pete's workshop II and

> noticed the following on one of the slides labled Locking:

>

> Swingle Ratio: FZ High Beta/Beta

> * 0.45- 0.55 ok

> * higher values, more strong-willed

> * lower values, more passive

>

> I don't remember this being discussed in my class and wondered if

> someone could elaborate. My son's is about double this (and

yes...he

> is headstrong!)

>

> Would I typically look at the percentage head or the amplitutde

head

> for this, or both? To address this issue, would one train down

both

> Beta & Hi Beta, or just Hi Beta at FZ?

>

> Thanks,

>

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Some folks who use HEG more than I have reported on the list that doing it

reduces activation in brains that are too activated as well as increasing

activation in brains that are underactivated. I haven't seen this myself, but

it's probably worth a try.

Pete

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> From: " lindadedavis " <D@...>

> Date: 2005/05/10 Tue AM 08:16:50 EDT

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> Subject: Re: SWINGLE RATIO

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