Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 In a message dated 4/12/02 7:15:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, silauto@... writes: > 1) Choose between enzymes together with troublesome > micro organisms vs no-enzymes with simple nutrients. > 2)How much of raw food should be consumed? and at what > meal? One meal consisting of raw food is sufficient > for our body and lunchtime is the best > time(unfortunately this may not be possible for almost > everyone).Raw food consumed late may not be > comfortable for us. > So the answer to my question is yes? (that boiling does destroy the enzymes?) thank you. " The greatest risk is not taking any. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 In a message dated 4/12/02 7:15:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, silauto@... writes: > 1) Choose between enzymes together with troublesome > micro organisms vs no-enzymes with simple nutrients. > 2)How much of raw food should be consumed? and at what > meal? One meal consisting of raw food is sufficient > for our body and lunchtime is the best > time(unfortunately this may not be possible for almost > everyone).Raw food consumed late may not be > comfortable for us. > So the answer to my question is yes? (that boiling does destroy the enzymes?) thank you. " The greatest risk is not taking any. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 1) Choose between enzymes together with troublesome micro organisms vs no-enzymes with simple nutrients. 2)How much of raw food should be consumed? and at what meal? One meal consisting of raw food is sufficient for our body and lunchtime is the best time(unfortunately this may not be possible for almost everyone).Raw food consumed late may not be comfortable for us. --- HerbsNVeggies@... wrote: > In a message dated 4/12/02 2:49:37 AM Eastern > Standard Time, > silauto@... writes: > > > > Our > > experiments with sprouts have been also limited > only > > to a few varieties, and when in doubt we boil the > > sprouts before consuming. > > > > Doesn't that destroy the enzymes? > rachel (a newcomer) > " The greatest risk is not taking any. " > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 1) Choose between enzymes together with troublesome micro organisms vs no-enzymes with simple nutrients. 2)How much of raw food should be consumed? and at what meal? One meal consisting of raw food is sufficient for our body and lunchtime is the best time(unfortunately this may not be possible for almost everyone).Raw food consumed late may not be comfortable for us. --- HerbsNVeggies@... wrote: > In a message dated 4/12/02 2:49:37 AM Eastern > Standard Time, > silauto@... writes: > > > > Our > > experiments with sprouts have been also limited > only > > to a few varieties, and when in doubt we boil the > > sprouts before consuming. > > > > Doesn't that destroy the enzymes? > rachel (a newcomer) > " The greatest risk is not taking any. " > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 Dinesh-ji, The crux of the maer after the basic hygiene is the water supply. If it is clean,the sprouts are clean. I've never lived in that end of the Himalayas but I assume the flie-born diseases are he same. Clean water,clean sprouts! Eating a big meal of raw food in the evening can really give one an uncomfortable night! No less than three hours before bed is safe. Namaskar, TeeJay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 Dinesh-ji, The crux of the maer after the basic hygiene is the water supply. If it is clean,the sprouts are clean. I've never lived in that end of the Himalayas but I assume the flie-born diseases are he same. Clean water,clean sprouts! Eating a big meal of raw food in the evening can really give one an uncomfortable night! No less than three hours before bed is safe. Namaskar, TeeJay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2002 Report Share Posted April 13, 2002 Is too much enzyme of any kind good? I was eating tons of ripe papaya when the enzymes started digesting the walls of my deudenum. --- HerbsNVeggies@... wrote: > In a message dated 4/12/02 7:15:27 PM Eastern > Standard Time, > silauto@... writes: > > > > 1) Choose between enzymes together with > troublesome > > micro organisms vs no-enzymes with simple > nutrients. > > 2)How much of raw food should be consumed? and at > what > > meal? One meal consisting of raw food is > sufficient > > for our body and lunchtime is the best > > time(unfortunately this may not be possible for > almost > > everyone).Raw food consumed late may not be > > comfortable for us. > > > > So the answer to my question is yes? (that boiling > does destroy the > enzymes?) > > thank you. > > " The greatest risk is not taking any. " > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2002 Report Share Posted April 13, 2002 Is too much enzyme of any kind good? I was eating tons of ripe papaya when the enzymes started digesting the walls of my deudenum. --- HerbsNVeggies@... wrote: > In a message dated 4/12/02 7:15:27 PM Eastern > Standard Time, > silauto@... writes: > > > > 1) Choose between enzymes together with > troublesome > > micro organisms vs no-enzymes with simple > nutrients. > > 2)How much of raw food should be consumed? and at > what > > meal? One meal consisting of raw food is > sufficient > > for our body and lunchtime is the best > > time(unfortunately this may not be possible for > almost > > everyone).Raw food consumed late may not be > > comfortable for us. > > > > So the answer to my question is yes? (that boiling > does destroy the > enzymes?) > > thank you. > > " The greatest risk is not taking any. " > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2002 Report Share Posted April 14, 2002 In a message dated 4/14/02 1:14:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, silauto@... writes: > Is too much enzyme of any kind good? I was eating tons > of ripe papaya when the enzymes started digesting the > walls of my deudenum. > I would think that " too much " of anything is not good. Moderation is a good rule of thumb in most all areas of life, including dietary habits. just my .02 rachel~ " The greatest risk is not taking any. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2002 Report Share Posted April 14, 2002 Teejay-Ji, Thanks for the information.If sprouts are to plants, what eggs are to chicken, as we do not eat the egg-shell, should we gobble up the skin or the husk of the sprouts? Does it have any nutritional value? Or is it only a burden on our GI system? Namaskar to you too.I do not know from where you are picking up the Indian ways of greeting, but are you aware of the deeper implications of the same? The universal divine symbol of love is the Heart shape.Thus here in India we fold our palms at the level of the heart, at the same time forming the shape of inverted heart(you have to look at yourself in the mirror and imagine )the apex of the heart starts at the location of your head descending below, along the lines of your hands and meeting at your palms.We also greet our guests and relatives with the betel leaf, which is again is in the shape of the heart.So much for now,Thanks anyway. Dinesh Khandelwal. --- J <foryehyeh@...> wrote: > Dinesh-ji, > The crux of the maer after the basic hygiene is > the water supply. If > it is clean,the sprouts are clean. I've never lived > in that end of the > Himalayas but I assume the flie-born diseases are he > same. Clean > water,clean sprouts! > Eating a big meal of raw food in the evening can > really give one an > uncomfortable night! > No less than three hours before bed is safe. > Namaskar, > TeeJay > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2002 Report Share Posted April 14, 2002 Teejay-Ji, Thanks for the information.If sprouts are to plants, what eggs are to chicken, as we do not eat the egg-shell, should we gobble up the skin or the husk of the sprouts? Does it have any nutritional value? Or is it only a burden on our GI system? Namaskar to you too.I do not know from where you are picking up the Indian ways of greeting, but are you aware of the deeper implications of the same? The universal divine symbol of love is the Heart shape.Thus here in India we fold our palms at the level of the heart, at the same time forming the shape of inverted heart(you have to look at yourself in the mirror and imagine )the apex of the heart starts at the location of your head descending below, along the lines of your hands and meeting at your palms.We also greet our guests and relatives with the betel leaf, which is again is in the shape of the heart.So much for now,Thanks anyway. Dinesh Khandelwal. --- J <foryehyeh@...> wrote: > Dinesh-ji, > The crux of the maer after the basic hygiene is > the water supply. If > it is clean,the sprouts are clean. I've never lived > in that end of the > Himalayas but I assume the flie-born diseases are he > same. Clean > water,clean sprouts! > Eating a big meal of raw food in the evening can > really give one an > uncomfortable night! > No less than three hours before bed is safe. > Namaskar, > TeeJay > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2002 Report Share Posted April 14, 2002 foryehyeh@... writes: > Too much of anything is not good! > That includes analysis. > As they say.... " all things in moderation, including moderation. " <grin> rachel~ " The greatest risk is not taking any. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2002 Report Share Posted April 14, 2002 Dinesh-ji, You have answered your question. Too much of anything is not good! That includes analysis. TeeJay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 Dinesh, I'm not certain as to the analogy between plants and chickens, but I have read of some type of growth inhibitors in the husks of legumes which may not be beneficial to humans. Given the risk of bacterial or other infection versus boiling the foods I would choose to boil it. You bring up an interesting question about enzymes. I've never heard of an overdose of enzymes in particular, but in general the simplest and most effective (and maybe the most difficult) dietary change is just to eat less I believe. There may be other qualities of papaya which are harmful in large quantities besides enzymes. Green foods and juices seem to have a soothing effect on the digestive system in my experience. I am currently juicing barley, wheat and rye grasses as an aid to my pancreas and duodenum. Variety of foods seems like a good thing too. In his commentary on the Bhagavad Gita, Paramahansa Yogananda recommends eating a small amount of garbonzo beans (also known as chick peas) soaked overnight with the husks removed. I mention this because he says it is one of the best sources of protein. As a devotee of the great master I am aware of the significance of the Indian way of greeting. Peace, " I bow to the Christ in the temple of all human brothers, in the temple of all life " ~PY > > Dinesh-ji, > > The crux of the maer after the basic hygiene is > > the water supply. If > > it is clean,the sprouts are clean. I've never lived > > in that end of the > > Himalayas but I assume the flie-born diseases are he > > same. Clean > > water,clean sprouts! > > Eating a big meal of raw food in the evening can > > really give one an > > uncomfortable night! > > No less than three hours before bed is safe. > > Namaskar, > > TeeJay > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 As with corn, the outside must just be cellulose (fibre). I don't think it really matters if we eat the skins or not. When I get alot of them, as when rinsing the sprouts in a bowl of water, I put them in the compost bucket. Sandy > If sprouts are to > plants, > what eggs are to chicken, as we do not eat the > egg-shell, should we gobble up the skin or the > husk of > the sprouts? Does it have any nutritional value? > Or is > it only a burden on our GI system? __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2002 Report Share Posted April 16, 2002 Dear , Thanks for the information.I have read and heard a lot of writings and discourses by the self proclaimed " Indian Gurus " .I suggest that we must doubly recheck whatever they say.Mostly they contradict themselves.Garbonzo beans is a source of protein, but definitely not one of the best.(If I eat a handful of overnight soaked chick peas,I won't have to talk to be heard!)PY should have known that quality of protein in food is more important than quantity of protein. Dinesh --- dcwodtke <dcwodtke@...> wrote: > Dinesh, > > I'm not certain as to the analogy between plants and > chickens, but I > have read of some type of growth inhibitors in the > husks of legumes > which may not be beneficial to humans. > > Given the risk of bacterial or other infection > versus boiling the > foods I would choose to boil it. You bring up an > interesting question > about enzymes. I've never heard of an overdose of > enzymes in > particular, but in general the simplest and most > effective (and maybe > the most difficult) dietary change is just to eat > less I believe. > > There may be other qualities of papaya which are > harmful in large > quantities besides enzymes. Green foods and juices > seem to have a > soothing effect on the digestive system in my > experience. I am > currently juicing barley, wheat and rye grasses as > an aid to my > pancreas and duodenum. Variety of foods seems like a > good thing too. > > In his commentary on the Bhagavad Gita, Paramahansa > Yogananda > recommends eating a small amount of garbonzo beans > (also known as > chick peas) soaked overnight with the husks removed. > I mention this > because he says it is one of the best sources of > protein. As a > devotee of the great master I am aware of the > significance of the > Indian way of greeting. > > Peace, > > " I bow to the Christ in the temple of all human > brothers, in the > temple of all life " ~PY > > > > > Dinesh-ji, > > > The crux of the maer after the basic hygiene > is > > > the water supply. If > > > it is clean,the sprouts are clean. I've never > lived > > > in that end of the > > > Himalayas but I assume the flie-born diseases > are he > > > same. Clean > > > water,clean sprouts! > > > Eating a big meal of raw food in the evening > can > > > really give one an > > > uncomfortable night! > > > No less than three hours before bed is safe. > > > Namaskar, > > > TeeJay > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2002 Report Share Posted April 16, 2002 Dinesh-ji, Beans tend to be talkative and usually use the wrong orfice but they can be effectively taught better manners by sprouting them for two days before cooking them I works for me with all kinds of legumes! Alos brown rice sprouts easilu and cooks well. A part of Sanjeevini is the use of proper nutrition and sprouts,wheat grass etc, are important. Its been awhile since I read the famouse Bengali novel about rickshaw pullers in Calcutta but they lived on a few handfuls of gram flour a day. Can you refresh my memory on that? Sprouting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2002 Report Share Posted April 16, 2002 Dinesh-ji, Beans tend to be talkative and usually use the wrong orfice but they can be effectively taught better manners by sprouting them for two days before cooking them I works for me with all kinds of legumes! Alos brown rice sprouts easilu and cooks well. A part of Sanjeevini is the use of proper nutrition and sprouts,wheat grass etc, are important. Its been awhile since I read the famouse Bengali novel about rickshaw pullers in Calcutta but they lived on a few handfuls of gram flour a day. Can you refresh my memory on that? Sprouting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2002 Report Share Posted April 16, 2002 --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: J <foryehyeh@...> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 21:08:08 -1000 Subject: Re: boiling sprouts?? Message-ID: <20020415.210809.-286807.1.foryehyeh@...> Dinesh-ji, Beans tend to be talkative and usually use the wrong orfice but they can be effectively taught better manners by sprouting them for two days before cooking them I works for me with all kinds of legumes! Also brown rice sprouts easilu and cooks well. A part of Sanjeevini is the use of proper nutrition and sprouts,wheat grass etc, are important. Its been awhile since I read the famouse Bengali novel about rickshaw pullers in Calcutta but they lived on a few handfuls of gram flour a day. Can you refresh my memory on that? Sprouting and raw food tend to to work best for me little by little. Wheat grass doesn't seem very palatable at this time so I am foregoing it for awhile. But I am using spirulina and getting all the chlorophyll and beta carotene plus that I need. Keep up the questions, it helps everyone. TeeJay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2002 Report Share Posted April 16, 2002 --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: J <foryehyeh@...> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 21:08:08 -1000 Subject: Re: boiling sprouts?? Message-ID: <20020415.210809.-286807.1.foryehyeh@...> Dinesh-ji, Beans tend to be talkative and usually use the wrong orfice but they can be effectively taught better manners by sprouting them for two days before cooking them I works for me with all kinds of legumes! Also brown rice sprouts easilu and cooks well. A part of Sanjeevini is the use of proper nutrition and sprouts,wheat grass etc, are important. Its been awhile since I read the famouse Bengali novel about rickshaw pullers in Calcutta but they lived on a few handfuls of gram flour a day. Can you refresh my memory on that? Sprouting and raw food tend to to work best for me little by little. Wheat grass doesn't seem very palatable at this time so I am foregoing it for awhile. But I am using spirulina and getting all the chlorophyll and beta carotene plus that I need. Keep up the questions, it helps everyone. TeeJay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2002 Report Share Posted April 16, 2002 The first message was sent by mistake before I finished, Just delete it and read the second. TeeJay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2002 Report Share Posted April 16, 2002 The first message was sent by mistake before I finished, Just delete it and read the second. TeeJay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2002 Report Share Posted April 16, 2002 Dear Teejay-ji, Is it that people from the west are facinated by the orient and vice versa? The rickshaw pullers lived on handful of roasted gram flour, as this had been their staple food since childhood and they couldn't have afforded to eat anything better.No one has probably done any research on the effects of such dietary habits on these poor rickshaw pullers from nutritional point of view.Besides there is more in humans than just a body, and thus each individual is different.Ever read about a centenarian eating and had been eating for many years, 64 eggs a day with normal levels of cholesterol? If you are keen on oriental stuff,you have hit the jackpot(me), and this implies that you shoot be shooting the questions. Namaskaar. Dinesh. --- J <foryehyeh@...> wrote: > > > --------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: J <foryehyeh@...> > > Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 21:08:08 -1000 > Subject: Re: boiling sprouts?? > Message-ID: > <20020415.210809.-286807.1.foryehyeh@...> > > Dinesh-ji, > Beans tend to be talkative and usually use the > wrong orfice but they > can be effectively taught better manners by > sprouting them for two days > before cooking them I works for me with all kinds > of legumes! Also brown > rice sprouts easilu and cooks well. > A part of Sanjeevini is the use of proper > nutrition and sprouts,wheat > grass etc, are important. Its been awhile since I > read the famouse > Bengali novel about rickshaw pullers in Calcutta but > they lived on a few > handfuls of gram flour a day. Can you refresh my > memory on that? > Sprouting and raw food tend to to work best for > me little by little. > Wheat grass doesn't seem very palatable at this time > so I am foregoing it > for awhile. But I am using spirulina and getting > all the chlorophyll and > beta carotene plus that I need. > Keep up the questions, it helps everyone. > TeeJay > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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