Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 All I began professionally with neurofeedback using EEG Spectrum equipment and philosophy. I left it behind about a year ago and sold my equipment. I never looked back except for Alpha theta. I miss the way that was implemented on the old system. Now Brainmaster has a protocol which is better then the old one: better only because it is more adaptabile. Using Bmr 2.0 you can access this new sound system which has ambient continous and punctate audio which sounds great and works easily. I do not use the Brainmaster software much but this alone is reason to get it. You have to purchase the AVI unlock to get access to it. But if you want to do AT this is by far the best way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Have you compared his to Pete's BE protocol for A/T? > All > I began professionally with neurofeedback using EEG Spectrum equipment > and philosophy. I left it behind about a year ago and sold my > equipment. I never looked back except for Alpha theta. I miss the way > that was implemented on the old system. > Now Brainmaster has a protocol which is better then the old one: better > only because it is more adaptabile. Using Bmr 2.0 you can access this > new sound system which has ambient continous and punctate audio which > sounds great and works easily. I do not use the Brainmaster software > much but this alone is reason to get it. You have to purchase the AVI > unlock to get access to it. But if you want to do AT this is by far the > best way to go. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Yes. Brainmaster is far superior. the sounds are compelling and powerful and intuitively satisfying. Everbody who listened to the sounds of the AT design in BE seemed confused or even irritated. I had stopped using AT completely, now I'm going back to it. The Othmers got this one right and Tom has reproduced it perfectly. On Sep 14, 2004, at 2:46 PM, P. Dal Cerro, Ph.D. wrote: Have you compared his to Pete's BE protocol for A/T? > All > I began professionally with neurofeedback using EEG Spectrum equipment > and philosophy. I left it behind about a year ago and sold my > equipment. I never looked back except for Alpha theta. I miss the way > that was implemented on the old system. > Now Brainmaster has a protocol which is better then the old one: better > only because it is more adaptabile. Using Bmr 2.0 you can access this > new sound system which has ambient continous and punctate audio which > sounds great and works easily. I do not use the Brainmaster software > much but this alone is reason to get it. You have to purchase the AVI > unlock to get access to it. But if you want to do AT this is by far the > best way to go. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Pete Is there a way to duplicate the sound of ocean waves or a babbling brook? I would still prefer to use BE, I hate the way BMR handles folders. But Tom's program averages alpha and theta " states " as well as rewarding bursts of either frequency and that works well in my experience. I'll look forward to seeing your new designs, however. On Sep 14, 2004, at 3:07 PM, Van Deusen wrote: There is a new A/T protocol (in fact at least two of them) in the 1.0 update package for BioExplorer users that will be sent out to all who have purchased the protocols package when 1.0 is released. And, of course, if clients find sounds irritating, the trainer has a great deal of flexibility in changing them, even in the original A/T protocol. Pete > > From: Goldring <paul.goldring@...> > Date: 2004/09/14 Tue PM 02:56:43 EDT > > Subject: Re: Re: Alpha theta > > > Yes. Brainmaster is far superior. the sounds are compelling and > powerful and intuitively satisfying. Everbody who listened to the > sounds of the AT design in BE seemed confused or even irritated. I had > stopped using AT completely, now I'm going back to it. The Othmers got > this one right and Tom has reproduced it perfectly. > > > On Sep 14, 2004, at 2:46 PM, P. Dal Cerro, Ph.D. wrote: > > Have you compared his to Pete's BE protocol for A/T? > > > > > All > > I began professionally with neurofeedback using EEG Spectrum > equipment > > and philosophy. I left it behind about a year ago and sold my > > equipment. I never looked back except for Alpha theta. I miss the > way > > that was implemented on the old system. > > Now Brainmaster has a protocol which is better then the old one: > better > > only because it is more adaptabile. Using Bmr 2.0 you can access > this > > new sound system which has ambient continous and punctate audio > which > > sounds great and works easily. I do not use the Brainmaster > software > > much but this alone is reason to get it. You have to purchase the > AVI > > unlock to get access to it. But if you want to do AT this is by far > the > > best way to go. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 , I think the reason that Tom has gotten it right is that I believe he worked directly with the Othmer's input to get it right. Re: Re: Alpha theta Yes. Brainmaster is far superior. the sounds are compelling and powerful and intuitively satisfying. Everbody who listened to the sounds of the AT design in BE seemed confused or even irritated. I had stopped using AT completely, now I'm going back to it. The Othmers got this one right and Tom has reproduced it perfectly. On Sep 14, 2004, at 2:46 PM, P. Dal Cerro, Ph.D. wrote: Have you compared his to Pete's BE protocol for A/T? > All > I began professionally with neurofeedback using EEG Spectrum equipment > and philosophy. I left it behind about a year ago and sold my > equipment. I never looked back except for Alpha theta. I miss the way > that was implemented on the old system. > Now Brainmaster has a protocol which is better then the old one: better > only because it is more adaptabile. Using Bmr 2.0 you can access this > new sound system which has ambient continous and punctate audio which > sounds great and works easily. I do not use the Brainmaster software > much but this alone is reason to get it. You have to purchase the AVI > unlock to get access to it. But if you want to do AT this is by far the > best way to go. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 This is available only with BrM 2.0, correct? > > All > > I began professionally with neurofeedback using EEG Spectrum > equipment > > and philosophy. I left it behind about a year ago and sold my > > equipment. I never looked back except for Alpha theta. I miss the > way > > that was implemented on the old system. > > Now Brainmaster has a protocol which is better then the old one: > better > > only because it is more adaptabile. Using Bmr 2.0 you can access > this > > new sound system which has ambient continous and punctate audio > which > > sounds great and works easily. I do not use the Brainmaster > software > > much but this alone is reason to get it. You have to purchase the > AVI > > unlock to get access to it. But if you want to do AT this is by far > the > > best way to go. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 And the AVI unlock. If only it weren't so good! On Sep 14, 2004, at 3:48 PM, P. Dal Cerro, Ph.D. wrote: This is available only with BrM 2.0, correct? > > All > > I began professionally with neurofeedback using EEG Spectrum > equipment > > and philosophy. I left it behind about a year ago and sold my > > equipment. I never looked back except for Alpha theta. I miss the > way > > that was implemented on the old system. > > Now Brainmaster has a protocol which is better then the old one: > better > > only because it is more adaptabile. Using Bmr 2.0 you can access > this > > new sound system which has ambient continous and punctate audio > which > > sounds great and works easily. I do not use the Brainmaster > software > > much but this alone is reason to get it. You have to purchase the > AVI > > unlock to get access to it. But if you want to do AT this is by far > the > > best way to go. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 , The way to duplicate the sounds is to use .wav files of waves and a brook in teh BE audio player.. The a google for ocean waves.wav etc should get you many hits. Sounds.com is a great resource. On Sep 14, 2004, at 2:17 PM, Goldring wrote: > Pete > Is there a way to duplicate the sound of ocean waves or a babbling > brook? I would still prefer to use BE, I hate the way BMR handles > folders. But Tom's program averages alpha and theta " states " as well as > rewarding bursts of either frequency and that works well in my > experience. I'll look forward to seeing your new designs, however. > On Sep 14, 2004, at 3:07 PM, Van Deusen wrote: > > There is a new A/T protocol (in fact at least two of them) in the 1.0 > update package for BioExplorer users that will be sent out to all who > have purchased the protocols package when 1.0 is released. > > And, of course, if clients find sounds irritating, the trainer has a > great deal of flexibility in changing them, even in the original A/T > protocol. > > Pete > >> >> From: Goldring <paul.goldring@...> >> Date: 2004/09/14 Tue PM 02:56:43 EDT >> >> Subject: Re: Re: Alpha theta >> >> >> Yes. Brainmaster is far superior. the sounds are compelling and >> powerful and intuitively satisfying. Everbody who listened to the >> sounds of the AT design in BE seemed confused or even irritated. I > had >> stopped using AT completely, now I'm going back to it. The Othmers > got >> this one right and Tom has reproduced it perfectly. >> >> >> On Sep 14, 2004, at 2:46 PM, P. Dal Cerro, Ph.D. wrote: >> >> Have you compared his to Pete's BE protocol for A/T? >> >> >> >> > All >> > I began professionally with neurofeedback using EEG Spectrum >> equipment >> > and philosophy. I left it behind about a year ago and sold my >> > equipment. I never looked back except for Alpha theta. I miss the >> way >> > that was implemented on the old system. >> > Now Brainmaster has a protocol which is better then the old one: >> better >> > only because it is more adaptabile. Using Bmr 2.0 you can access >> this >> > new sound system which has ambient continous and punctate audio >> which >> > sounds great and works easily. I do not use the Brainmaster >> software >> > much but this alone is reason to get it. You have to purchase the >> AVI >> > unlock to get access to it. But if you want to do AT this is by > far >> the >> > best way to go. >> > >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 , 'The Brainwave Suite' by Dr. has several cd's that are quite useful (the Theta/Beta disc is great and includes binaural beats) and can be played in BE through either the cd object or can be converted to .wav files---the sounds include waves and water; I've had good results with this. Best, Rich Glade M.A,L.C.S.W. Re: Re: Alpha theta>>>>>> Yes. Brainmaster is far superior. the sounds are compelling and>> powerful and intuitively satisfying. Everbody who listened to the>> sounds of the AT design in BE seemed confused or even irritated. I> had>> stopped using AT completely, now I'm going back to it. The Othmers> got>> this one right and Tom has reproduced it perfectly.>> >>>> On Sep 14, 2004, at 2:46 PM, P. Dal Cerro, Ph.D. wrote:>>>> Have you compared his to Pete's BE protocol for A/T?>>>>>> >> > All>> > I began professionally with neurofeedback using EEG Spectrum>> equipment>> > and philosophy. I left it behind about a year ago and sold my>> > equipment. I never looked back except for Alpha theta. I miss the>> way>> > that was implemented on the old system.>> > Now Brainmaster has a protocol which is better then the old one:>> better>> > only because it is more adaptabile. Using Bmr 2.0 you can access>> this>> > new sound system which has ambient continous and punctate audio>> which>> > sounds great and works easily. I do not use the Brainmaster>> software>> > much but this alone is reason to get it. You have to purchase the>> AVI>> > unlock to get access to it. But if you want to do AT this is by> far>> the>> > best way to go.>> > >>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 and , Yes, that is correct, we worked with the Othmers on the new sound layering, and it was a significant effort. There is some " art " in the design that is not apparent to the naked eye (or ear), but which has profound effects on the training. Tom Re: Re: Alpha theta Yes. Brainmaster is far superior. the sounds are compelling and powerful and intuitively satisfying. Everbody who listened to the sounds of the AT design in BE seemed confused or even irritated. I had stopped using AT completely, now I'm going back to it. The Othmers got this one right and Tom has reproduced it perfectly. On Sep 14, 2004, at 2:46 PM, P. Dal Cerro, Ph.D. wrote: Have you compared his to Pete's BE protocol for A/T? > All > I began professionally with neurofeedback using EEG Spectrum equipment > and philosophy. I left it behind about a year ago and sold my > equipment. I never looked back except for Alpha theta. I miss the way > that was implemented on the old system. > Now Brainmaster has a protocol which is better then the old one: better > only because it is more adaptabile. Using Bmr 2.0 you can access this > new sound system which has ambient continous and punctate audio which > sounds great and works easily. I do not use the Brainmaster software > much but this alone is reason to get it. You have to purchase the AVI > unlock to get access to it. But if you want to do AT this is by far the > best way to go. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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