Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 how much of the nutritional value of fresh sprouts do dried sprouts retain? Dennis ellie <eleanorlin@...> wrote: The instructions for my Easy Sprout sprouter say that for some (bean) sprouts you can just soak the seeds, drain, and throw the sprouter in the fridge for a few days to sprout with no rinsing. I haven't tried it that way myself tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 Dennis, isn't the whole idea of sprouting to get the enzymes/life force/whatever that growing sprouts have? If you dry them the plant cells shut down and you might as well eat the dried veggies sold to make soup. Ellie, if you don't give the sprouts fresh water I'd guess you'd get the same thing that Dennis is talking about; dried-out sprouts. >From: The Wrong Hands <with_favas_bean@...> >Date: Sun Jan 29 10:13:02 CST 2006 > >Subject: Re: dried sprouts >how much of the nutritional value of fresh sprouts > do dried sprouts retain? > Dennis > >ellie <eleanorlin@...> wrote: > The instructions for my Easy Sprout sprouter say that for some (bean) >sprouts you can just soak the seeds, drain, and throw the sprouter in >the fridge for a few days to sprout with no rinsing. I haven't tried >it that way myself tho. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 hi, i was just curious, having seen sprout powder advertised on the web for about as much money as gold dust. Dennis 003marklanders@... wrote: Dennis, isn't the whole idea of sprouting to get the enzymes/life force/whatever that growing sprouts have? If you dry them the plant cells shut down and you might as well eat the dried veggies sold to make soup. Ellie, if you don't give the sprouts fresh water I'd guess you'd get the same thing that Dennis is talking about; dried-out sprouts. >From: The Wrong Hands <with_favas_bean@...> >Date: Sun Jan 29 10:13:02 CST 2006 > >Subject: Re: dried sprouts >how much of the nutritional value of fresh sprouts > do dried sprouts retain? > Dennis > >ellie <eleanorlin@...> wrote: > The instructions for my Easy Sprout sprouter say that for some (bean) >sprouts you can just soak the seeds, drain, and throw the sprouter in >the fridge for a few days to sprout with no rinsing. I haven't tried >it that way myself tho. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 Mark From what I have read dehydrating at very low temperatures not only leaves the majority of nutrients complete but also leaves the enzymes intact. Comparing this to cooking it is a much better process. I don't have the temperature guidelines to hand but think it was equivalent to the internal temperature of the human body which would make sense. Kirk Re: dried sprouts > > >how much of the nutritional value of fresh sprouts > > do dried sprouts retain? > > Dennis > > > >ellie <eleanorlin@...> wrote: > > The instructions for my Easy Sprout sprouter say that for some (bean) > >sprouts you can just soak the seeds, drain, and throw the sprouter in > >the fridge for a few days to sprout with no rinsing. I haven't tried > >it that way myself tho. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 Hi Yeah I have heard of this, a Canadian company? Definately a better product than the body builder protein whey shakes. There is a lot of value in having living things in the house taking care of them and they in turn nurturing you as well as the bioavialabillity of fresh living foods, but this is a way to bring the value and message of live foods in part to the stressed out, time strapped, micro second attention span, I wanna fix and I wanna it now - masses. Ooops sorry got a bit full of myself then Kirk Re: dried sprouts > > >how much of the nutritional value of fresh sprouts > > do dried sprouts retain? > > Dennis > > > >ellie <eleanorlin@...> wrote: > > The instructions for my Easy Sprout sprouter say that for some (bean) > >sprouts you can just soak the seeds, drain, and throw the sprouter in > >the fridge for a few days to sprout with no rinsing. I haven't tried > >it that way myself tho. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 Hi Yeah I have heard of this, a Canadian company? Definately a better product than the body builder protein whey shakes. There is a lot of value in having living things in the house taking care of them and they in turn nurturing you as well as the bioavialabillity of fresh living foods, but this is a way to bring the value and message of live foods in part to the stressed out, time strapped, micro second attention span, I wanna fix and I wanna it now - masses. Ooops sorry got a bit full of myself then Kirk Re: dried sprouts > > >how much of the nutritional value of fresh sprouts > > do dried sprouts retain? > > Dennis > > > >ellie <eleanorlin@...> wrote: > > The instructions for my Easy Sprout sprouter say that for some (bean) > >sprouts you can just soak the seeds, drain, and throw the sprouter in > >the fridge for a few days to sprout with no rinsing. I haven't tried > >it that way myself tho. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 I order to retain the enzymes it needs to be dried no hotter than 105 degrees. 107 and higher kills the enzymes. Gail in MS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 I order to retain the enzymes it needs to be dried no hotter than 105 degrees. 107 and higher kills the enzymes. Gail in MS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 --- The Wrong Hands <with_favas_bean@...> wrote: > how much of the nutritional value of fresh sprouts do dried > sprouts retain? Apparently enough to reverse some major indices of aging: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstra\ ct & list_uids=16333758 & query_hl=1 & itool=pubmed_docsum In that study Basso et al. used an extract from dried wheat sprouts, which reversed cataracts in old dogs and induced recovery of hepatocyte DNA synthesis in old mice. ~Ian __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 --- The Wrong Hands <with_favas_bean@...> wrote: > how much of the nutritional value of fresh sprouts do dried > sprouts retain? Apparently enough to reverse some major indices of aging: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstra\ ct & list_uids=16333758 & query_hl=1 & itool=pubmed_docsum In that study Basso et al. used an extract from dried wheat sprouts, which reversed cataracts in old dogs and induced recovery of hepatocyte DNA synthesis in old mice. ~Ian __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 Interesting. Is the wheat sprout extract mentioned freeze-dried (low heat, vacuum extraction), dried or some kind of aqueous solution? I would guess that live plant cells subjected to standard drying would react as they would to a drought; shut down the production of all those delicate enzymes/phytochemicals/whatever and try to estivate until moisture returns. Also, just to be picky, we can't know if all the beneficial substances in sprouts are in an extract until a comparitive study is done. >From: Ian Goddard <iamgoddard@...> >Date: Sun Jan 29 20:53:30 CST 2006 > >Subject: Re: dried sprouts >--- The Wrong Hands <with_favas_bean@...> wrote: > >> how much of the nutritional value of fresh sprouts >do dried >> sprouts retain? > > > Apparently enough to reverse some major indices of >aging: > >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstr\ act & list_uids=16333758 & query_hl=1 & itool=pubmed_docsum > >In that study Basso et al. used an extract from dried >wheat sprouts, which reversed cataracts in old dogs >and induced recovery of hepatocyte DNA synthesis in >old mice. > >~Ian > > >__________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Hi ya True so to my way of thinking what is true of dried wheat sprout extract is also true of fresh juicy living wheat sprouts. The only reason I can think of for them drying in this case is so that they can measure some chemical quantity more accurately or so that having proved it true of a commercialy viable product they might have a market for it. Kirk Re: dried sprouts > > >--- The Wrong Hands <with_favas_bean@...> wrote: > > > >> how much of the nutritional value of fresh sprouts > >do dried > >> sprouts retain? > > > > > > Apparently enough to reverse some major indices of > >aging: > > > >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=A bstract & list_uids=16333758 & query_hl=1 & itool=pubmed_docsum > > > >In that study Basso et al. used an extract from dried > >wheat sprouts, which reversed cataracts in old dogs > >and induced recovery of hepatocyte DNA synthesis in > >old mice. > > > >~Ian > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Hi ya True so to my way of thinking what is true of dried wheat sprout extract is also true of fresh juicy living wheat sprouts. The only reason I can think of for them drying in this case is so that they can measure some chemical quantity more accurately or so that having proved it true of a commercialy viable product they might have a market for it. Kirk Re: dried sprouts > > >--- The Wrong Hands <with_favas_bean@...> wrote: > > > >> how much of the nutritional value of fresh sprouts > >do dried > >> sprouts retain? > > > > > > Apparently enough to reverse some major indices of > >aging: > > > >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=A bstract & list_uids=16333758 & query_hl=1 & itool=pubmed_docsum > > > >In that study Basso et al. used an extract from dried > >wheat sprouts, which reversed cataracts in old dogs > >and induced recovery of hepatocyte DNA synthesis in > >old mice. > > > >~Ian > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 hi kirk, i'm asking about dried sprouts because i'm going traveling and want to get all the raw organic nutrition i can for as little weight as possible. regards, Dennis Kirk <jlcgull@...> wrote: Hi ya True so to my way of thinking what is true of dried wheat sprout extract is also true of fresh juicy living wheat sprouts. The only reason I can think of for them drying in this case is so that they can measure some chemical quantity more accurately or so that having proved it true of a commercialy viable product they might have a market for it. Kirk Re: dried sprouts > > >--- The Wrong Hands <with_favas_bean@...> wrote: > > > >> how much of the nutritional value of fresh sprouts > >do dried > >> sprouts retain? > > > > > > Apparently enough to reverse some major indices of > >aging: > > > >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=A bstract & list_uids=16333758 & query_hl=1 & itool=pubmed_docsum > > > >In that study Basso et al. used an extract from dried > >wheat sprouts, which reversed cataracts in old dogs > >and induced recovery of hepatocyte DNA synthesis in > >old mice. > > > >~Ian > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Hi-I'm sure you already know this, but whole food supplements work pretty good. A friend brought me some when I mentioned the multivitaminmineral supplements from Whole Foods Market made me sick, even the Dr. Weil brand. She brought another brand and I felt quite good after taking them. I don't know the brand, but the label said they were almost totally organic whole food source. Should I try to find out the brand name for you? Diane The Wrong Hands wrote: >hi kirk, > i'm asking about dried sprouts because i'm going traveling >and want to get all the raw organic nutrition i can for > as little weight as possible. > regards, > Dennis > > > > > > > > > > >Kirk <jlcgull@...> wrote: > Hi ya > True so to my way of thinking what is true of dried wheat sprout >extract is also true of fresh juicy living wheat sprouts. The only reason I >can think of for them drying in this case is so that they can measure some >chemical quantity more accurately or so that having proved it true of a >commercialy viable product they might have a market for it. > > >Kirk > > Re: dried sprouts >>> >>> >>>--- The Wrong Hands <with_favas_bean@...> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>how much of the nutritional value of fresh sprouts >>>> >>>> >>>do dried >>> >>> >>>>sprouts retain? >>>> >>>> >>>Apparently enough to reverse some major indices of >>>aging: >>> >>> >>> >>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=A >> >> >bstract & list_uids=16333758 & query_hl=1 & itool=pubmed_docsum > > >>>In that study Basso et al. used an extract from dried >>>wheat sprouts, which reversed cataracts in old dogs >>>and induced recovery of hepatocyte DNA synthesis in >>>old mice. >>> >>>~Ian >>> >>> >>>__________________________________________________ >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 --- 003marklanders@... wrote: > Interesting. Is the wheat sprout extract mentioned > freeze-dried (low heat, vacuum extraction), dried or > some kind of aqueous solution? As I said, the extract was made from dried sprouts. Here's the details from Basso et al: Wheat sprout extraction Wheat seeds sprouted for 1–4 days on soft agar (0.8–1%) were dehydrated and the sprouts mechanically separated from the seeds and agar. Sprout powder (20 g) extract was obtained according to the following procedure: the sprout powder was resuspended then homogenized in 400 ml of water and centrifuged at 10000Xg for 30 min at 4[degrees] C. The supernatant was lyophilised. The lyophilised aqueous extract was then re-extracted with 50 ml of 100% ethanol (and stored a 4[degrees] C for 2 h). After centrifugation at 10000Xg for 30 min at 4[degrees] C the supernatant was evaporated and resuspended in 15 ml of water. The supernatant was assayed for protein concentration according to Lowry et al. (Lowry et al. 1951; Fautz et al. 1993). The dry extract was resuspended in water at concentration varying from 1 to 2 mg/ml (w/v) and stored at) 80[degrees] C. Me again: of course I'd also hypothesize that something may be lost by drying, but an important piece of knowledge appears to be at hand with Basso et al, which is that SOMETHING beneficial appears to survive drying. Moreover, that something may be almost miraculous in its beneficial nature. ~Ian > >> how much of the nutritional value of fresh > >> sprouts do dried sprouts retain? > > > > > > Apparently enough to reverse some major indices of > >aging: > > > >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstr\ act & list_uids=16333758 & query_hl=1 & itool=pubmed_docsum > > > >In that study Basso et al. used an extract from > >dried wheat sprouts, which reversed cataracts in > >old dogs and induced recovery of hepatocyte DNA > >synthesis in old mice. > > > >~Ian __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 hi diane, i'm more into growing my own, so i know exactly what's in them. i have several months to prepare yet. BTW... is the rootlet considered part of the sprout? Dennis Diane and Uecker <sunflowr@...> wrote: Hi-I'm sure you already know this, but whole food supplements work pretty good. A friend brought me some when I mentioned the multivitaminmineral supplements from Whole Foods Market made me sick, even the Dr. Weil brand. She brought another brand and I felt quite good after taking them. I don't know the brand, but the label said they were almost totally organic whole food source. Should I try to find out the brand name for you? Diane The Wrong Hands wrote: >hi kirk, > i'm asking about dried sprouts because i'm going traveling >and want to get all the raw organic nutrition i can for > as little weight as possible. > regards, > Dennis > > > > > > > > > > >Kirk <jlcgull@...> wrote: > Hi ya > True so to my way of thinking what is true of dried wheat sprout >extract is also true of fresh juicy living wheat sprouts. The only reason I >can think of for them drying in this case is so that they can measure some >chemical quantity more accurately or so that having proved it true of a >commercialy viable product they might have a market for it. > > >Kirk > > Re: dried sprouts >>> >>> >>>--- The Wrong Hands <with_favas_bean@...> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>how much of the nutritional value of fresh sprouts >>>> >>>> >>>do dried >>> >>> >>>>sprouts retain? >>>> >>>> >>>Apparently enough to reverse some major indices of >>>aging: >>> >>> >>> >>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=A >> >> >bstract & list_uids=16333758 & query_hl=1 & itool=pubmed_docsum > > >>>In that study Basso et al. used an extract from dried >>>wheat sprouts, which reversed cataracts in old dogs >>>and induced recovery of hepatocyte DNA synthesis in >>>old mice. >>> >>>~Ian >>> >>> >>>__________________________________________________ >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 I actually had a cute thing to say like, only as much as the foot is part of the leg. Nutritionally speaking though , since it has no green, it would not have...well, the green stuff, but I suspect it has something to offer. Diane The Wrong Hands wrote: >hi diane, > i'm more into growing my own, > so i know exactly what's in them. > i have several months to prepare yet. > BTW... is the rootlet considered part of the sprout? > Dennis > >Diane and Uecker <sunflowr@...> wrote: > Hi-I'm sure you already know this, but whole food supplements work >pretty good. A friend brought me some when I mentioned the >multivitaminmineral supplements from Whole Foods Market made me sick, >even the Dr. Weil brand. She brought another brand and I felt quite >good after taking them. I don't know the brand, but the label said they >were almost totally organic whole food source. Should I try to find out >the brand name for you? Diane > >The Wrong Hands wrote: > > > >>hi kirk, >> i'm asking about dried sprouts because i'm going traveling >>and want to get all the raw organic nutrition i can for >> as little weight as possible. >> regards, >> Dennis >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Kirk <jlcgull@...> wrote: >> Hi ya >> True so to my way of thinking what is true of dried wheat sprout >>extract is also true of fresh juicy living wheat sprouts. The only reason I >>can think of for them drying in this case is so that they can measure some >>chemical quantity more accurately or so that having proved it true of a >>commercialy viable product they might have a market for it. >> >> >>Kirk >> >> Re: dried sprouts >>>> >>>> >>>>--- The Wrong Hands <with_favas_bean@...> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>how much of the nutritional value of fresh sprouts >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>do dried >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>sprouts retain? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Apparently enough to reverse some major indices of >>>>aging: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=A >>> >>> >>> >>> >>bstract & list_uids=16333758 & query_hl=1 & itool=pubmed_docsum >> >> >> >> >>>>In that study Basso et al. used an extract from dried >>>>wheat sprouts, which reversed cataracts in old dogs >>>>and induced recovery of hepatocyte DNA synthesis in >>>>old mice. >>>> >>>>~Ian >>>> >>>> >>>>__________________________________________________ >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Is this standard procedure? As I read this, they extracted with plain water, centrifuged, freeze-dried the water solution, then extracted with alcohol, re-freeze-dried, re-centrifuged, assayed and stored in water at about 170 Farenheit!. If whatever it is that's beneficial in sprouts survived this then it certainly isn't delicate. >From: Ian Goddard <iamgoddard@...> >Date: Mon Jan 30 18:40:55 CST 2006 > >Subject: Re: dried sprouts >--- 003marklanders@... wrote: > >> Interesting. Is the wheat sprout extract mentioned >> freeze-dried (low heat, vacuum extraction), dried or >> some kind of aqueous solution? > > > As I said, the extract was made from dried sprouts. >Here's the details from Basso et al: > >Wheat sprout extraction > >Wheat seeds sprouted for 1?4 days on soft agar >(0.8?1%) were dehydrated and the sprouts >mechanically separated from the seeds and agar. >Sprout powder (20 g) extract was obtained >according to the following procedure: the sprout >powder was resuspended then homogenized in >400 ml of water and centrifuged at 10000Xg >for 30 min at 4[degrees] C. The supernatant was >lyophilised. The lyophilised aqueous extract was >then re-extracted with 50 ml of 100% ethanol (and >stored a 4[degrees] C for 2 h). After centrifugation >at >10000Xg for 30 min at 4[degrees] C the supernatant >was evaporated and resuspended in 15 ml of >water. The supernatant was assayed for protein >concentration according to Lowry et al. (Lowry >et al. 1951; Fautz et al. 1993). The dry extract >was resuspended in water at concentration >varying from 1 to 2 mg/ml (w/v) and stored >at) 80[degrees] C. > > > >Me again: of course I'd also hypothesize that >something may be lost by drying, but an important >piece of knowledge appears to be at hand with Basso et >al, which is that SOMETHING beneficial appears to >survive drying. Moreover, that something may be almost >miraculous in its beneficial nature. ~Ian > > > >> >> how much of the nutritional value of fresh >> >> sprouts do dried sprouts retain? >> > >> > >> > Apparently enough to reverse some major indices of >> >aging: >> > >> >>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abst\ ract & list_uids=16333758 & query_hl=1 & itool=pubmed_docsum >> > >> >In that study Basso et al. used an extract from >> >dried wheat sprouts, which reversed cataracts in >> >old dogs and induced recovery of hepatocyte DNA >> >synthesis in old mice. >> > >> >~Ian > > >__________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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