Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 Jeff, All the words in the descriptions of the " foods " on the grocery shelves are federally regulated. The FDA allows the addition of " safe " poisons (are we used to seeing 'less than 2% of the following' on labels?) in the form of preservatives, sweeteners, and flavor enhancers without adequate testing. All foods now crossing into our borders are irradiated, even organically grown. That little tidbit is in a college textbook written by a chemist for a Nutrition class. Ingredients in prepared foods on the shelf are no longer required to state if any are irradiated or GMO. Kellog's is very proud of their vast GMO corn crops in Brazil. Did you folks know they bought out Morning Star and their lovely vegan protein foods are now full of yeast extract - the food industries cheapest form of MSG? The point here, Sir, is to answer to an earlier ( and oh so naive) question you'd posed:'What possible motive would any government have with producing the lowest quality food?' Who funds the Government? And how do big corporations get their money? Americans purchase whatever they dish out, then become ill and require expensive medical care. Who owns the phamaceutical industries and hospitals? It sure ain't the people. Sproutingly, JEFF JOHNS <healthnut422@...> wrote: Quasi-goverment corporation!That is a meaningless statement.Roundup ready seeds are a monstrosity for sure.Greed is the issue not seed control but control of the genetically altered seed.Intelectual property rights will play an issue in agri. business as it has since hybrids were introduced.The loss of plant diversity over the years is from lack of foresight not legislation!Seed time and harvest is beyond human control.To tie seeds into supplement legislation is absurd. Re:Our rights to buy suppliments is in jeopardy I believe the ultimate aim of all governements, is to control food supplies to the endth degree, so that only the lowest grades poorly nourishing foods are available. OF course this would not be obvious to the average jo public! They want to make sure that we have no natural ways of keeping ourselves fit and healthy..! Look at your Monsanto wanting to take control of all seeds and make them sterile..these people and the governements are evil incarnate, and tis time people wake up to what is going on ...! anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 Talk about delusions!!!! I would suggest you study some history and look around a little and then be honest in your conclusions. Also find out what the American government did via different agencies (CIA etc.) in regards to experiments against the American people in the past 60 years or so. Ignorance is truly bliss! Once you are directly affected by these evil government actions you will change your mind fairly quickly. Unfortunately people are too selfish to take actions, or even be concerned a little as long as they don't hurt by the impact of wrong and negative government actions. Very sad. On 03.06.2007, at 08:35, JEFF JOHNS wrote: > Its more like paranoia with a dash of delusion for good measure.So > far its things theve seen which says nothing along with vague > statements like governments doing.What possible motive would any > government have with producing the lowest quality food?There is a > government interest in assuring a plentiful supply of food > available for the masses.And the masses demand food at a low price > point.Supply and demand at its best and worst.The governing bodies > of the U.S. cant keep the streets paved much less control anything! > When it comes to so called supplements its an issue of safety and > fraud that is being legislated.The sprouting industry has already > dealt with microbial control issues.The government intervention > though somewhat invasive has made sprouting far more safer for > everyone here in the U.S.. > > Re:Our rights to buy suppliments is > > in jeopardy > > > > I believe the ultimate aim of all governements, is to control food > > supplies to the endth degree, so that only the lowest grades poorly > > nourishing foods are available. > > > > OF course this would not be obvious to the average jo public! They > > want to make sure that we have no natural ways of keeping ourselves > > fit and healthy..! > > > > Look at your Monsanto wanting to take control of all seeds and make > > them sterile..these people and the governements are evil incarnate, > > and tis time people wake up to what is going on ...! > > > > anne > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 Where do you get all this nonsense from? Don't you have a mind of yourself to check things out independently? Anyone with a few brain cells left will not believe a word the government or any of its agencies is telling us as a result of all the lies the government told in the last 6 or so years. Nothing was true. How can anyone continue and believe a group of people that does nothing but lie and deceive. If you go further back you will find out that the lying and deceiving didn't just start a few years ago. You will also find out that it doesn't change by a change of party at an election. Please, do yourself a big favor and take your head out of the sand. Just look around for a little while. You will find your delusional world disappear and reality show its ugly face. Yes, my friend, it is an ugly reality. No denial will stop the repercussions we are bringing upon ourselves with denying and refusing the truth. On 03.06.2007, at 09:00, JEFF JOHNS wrote: > Quasi-goverment corporation!That is a meaningless statement.Roundup > ready seeds are a monstrosity for sure.Greed is the issue not seed > control but control of the genetically altered seed.Intelectual > property rights will play an issue in agri. business as it has > since hybrids were introduced.The loss of plant diversity over the > years is from lack of foresight not legislation!Seed time and > harvest is beyond human control.To tie seeds into supplement > legislation is absurd. > > Re:Our rights to buy suppliments is > in jeopardy > > I believe the ultimate aim of all governements, is to control food > supplies to the endth degree, so that only the lowest grades poorly > nourishing foods are available. > > OF course this would not be obvious to the average jo public! They > want to make sure that we have no natural ways of keeping ourselves > fit and healthy..! > > Look at your Monsanto wanting to take control of all seeds and make > them sterile..these people and the governements are evil incarnate, > and tis time people wake up to what is going on ...! > > anne > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 Thank you, . And Jeff, the same story is true with every other aspect. hinted on the fact that we are controlled by corporations, not government. By the way, government should not control us either. It's us, the people, that should control government. Do you know how a state is called that is controlled by corporations? Find out an let us know. It's important. On 03.06.2007, at 05:54, cynthia wilson wrote: > Jeff, All the words in the descriptions of the " foods " on the > grocery shelves are federally regulated. The FDA allows the > addition of " safe " poisons (are we used to seeing 'less than 2% of > the following' on labels?) in the form of preservatives, > sweeteners, and flavor enhancers without adequate testing. All > foods now crossing into our borders are irradiated, even > organically grown. That little tidbit is in a college textbook > written by a chemist for a Nutrition class. Ingredients in prepared > foods on the shelf are no longer required to state if any are > irradiated or GMO. Kellog's is very proud of their vast GMO corn > crops in Brazil. Did you folks know they bought out Morning Star > and their lovely vegan protein foods are now full of yeast extract > - the food industries cheapest form of MSG? The point here, Sir, is > to answer to an earlier ( and oh so naive) question you'd > posed:'What possible motive would any government have with > producing the lowest quality food?' Who funds > the Government? And how do big corporations get their money? > Americans purchase whatever they dish out, then become ill and > require expensive medical care. Who owns the phamaceutical > industries and hospitals? It sure ain't the people. Sproutingly, > > > JEFF JOHNS <healthnut422@...> wrote: Quasi-goverment > corporation!That is a meaningless statement.Roundup ready seeds are > a monstrosity for sure.Greed is the issue not seed control but > control of the genetically altered seed.Intelectual property rights > will play an issue in agri. business as it has since hybrids were > introduced.The loss of plant diversity over the years is from lack > of foresight not legislation!Seed time and harvest is beyond human > control.To tie seeds into supplement legislation is absurd. > > Re:Our rights to buy suppliments is > in jeopardy > > I believe the ultimate aim of all governements, is to control food > supplies to the endth degree, so that only the lowest grades poorly > nourishing foods are available. > > OF course this would not be obvious to the average jo public! They > want to make sure that we have no natural ways of keeping ourselves > fit and healthy..! > > Look at your Monsanto wanting to take control of all seeds and make > them sterile..these people and the governements are evil incarnate, > and tis time people wake up to what is going on ...! > > anne > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 Uhh, what government are you talking about?And what truth do you speak of,your words are vague and meaningless! Re:Our rights to buy suppliments is > in jeopardy > > I believe the ultimate aim of all governements, is to control food > supplies to the endth degree, so that only the lowest grades poorly > nourishing foods are available. > > OF course this would not be obvious to the average jo public! They > want to make sure that we have no natural ways of keeping ourselves > fit and healthy..! > > Look at your Monsanto wanting to take control of all seeds and make > them sterile..these people and the governements are evil incarnate, > and tis time people wake up to what is going on ...! > > anne > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 So let me get this right ,the CIA along with the FDA is going to take are geritol away! Re:Our rights to buy suppliments is > > in jeopardy > > > > I believe the ultimate aim of all governements, is to control food > > supplies to the endth degree, so that only the lowest grades poorly > > nourishing foods are available. > > > > OF course this would not be obvious to the average jo public! They > > want to make sure that we have no natural ways of keeping ourselves > > fit and healthy..! > > > > Look at your Monsanto wanting to take control of all seeds and make > > them sterile..these people and the governements are evil incarnate, > > and tis time people wake up to what is going on ...! > > > > anne > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 What you say about the foodstuffs on store shelves is true.But it doesn't support your original position in any way shape or form!This perceived collusion between corporations and governments to control for evil is delusional.I personally exercise toxin avoidance protocols in my life,I don't eat processed food.Be wise be green be happy! Re:Our rights to buy suppliments is in jeopardy I believe the ultimate aim of all governements, is to control food supplies to the endth degree, so that only the lowest grades poorly nourishing foods are available. OF course this would not be obvious to the average jo public! They want to make sure that we have no natural ways of keeping ourselves fit and healthy..! Look at your Monsanto wanting to take control of all seeds and make them sterile..these people and the governements are evil incarnate, and tis time people wake up to what is going on ...! anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 I am talking about the US government. On 04.06.2007, at 05:31, JEFF JOHNS wrote: > Uhh, what government are you talking about?And what truth do you > speak of,your words are vague and meaningless! > > Re:Our rights to buy suppliments is > > in jeopardy > > > > I believe the ultimate aim of all governements, is to control food > > supplies to the endth degree, so that only the lowest grades poorly > > nourishing foods are available. > > > > OF course this would not be obvious to the average jo public! They > > want to make sure that we have no natural ways of keeping ourselves > > fit and healthy..! > > > > Look at your Monsanto wanting to take control of all seeds and make > > them sterile..these people and the governements are evil incarnate, > > and tis time people wake up to what is going on ...! > > > > anne > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Hi Jeff, [sorry everyone, as you may have gotten this multiple times...] If " [r]oundup ready seeds are a monstrosity " then " quasi-government corporation " is not a meaningless phrase. Worse than the " intellectual property " rights of hybrids is the fact that Big Pharma is racing to patent all plant and animal DNA on planet Earth. Wanna sprout mung beans? How much are you willing to pay for the " right " to do so? I noticed you addressed around my mentioning of it being illegal to collect rainwater (in Argentina). Are you just not going to address the government involvement in a quasi-government corporation's decision to " privatize " the water cycle in a whole country? Who did they privatize it to? I bet it was their " friends " with deep pockets. The idea that collecting rainwater is illegal seems to go beyond mere greed, don't you think? Here's something that might change your views on the corruptibility of governments and the so-called paranoia of the " conspiracy theorists " - a little OT: http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/06/04/china.climate.reut/index.html The title is " China puts economy ahead of climate " and here's an excerpt: " China said on Monday its response to the threats of climate change must give overriding priority to economic development as the nation seeks to balance ambitions for growth with fears of environmental calamity. " The sad thing is that all foods are " processed foods " . It's the growing process, the shipping process, the hybrid process, and the environment (acid rain, etc.) that is causing our food to be so poisonous and governments are in a good position to stop all of that - if they had no other interests (Read: corporate sponsorship). There has been a real movement in the last thirty years to eradicate the policies of the New Deal. Making a decent living impossible (more immigration), starving people (low nutrient foods) and pricing good food out of the reach of the average person (why does milk cost more than soda?) is just three ways to ensure people will do whatever you tell them to do - en masse. This is no paranoia talking. The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer to the detriment of all. (High-end department stores are reporting more sales while discount department stores are reporting losses?) In addition to avoiding processed foods, you may want to revise your diet to exclude anything that has been grown outdoors, as well. Thanks for the discussion! Sincerely, L. Mason Hostess, Solutions Now! Radio Telephone: (888) 851-9035 Fax: (206) 350-5500 Email: solutionsradio@... http://blogtalkradio.com/solutions_now_radio http://www.directmatches.com/profiles/SNRadio http://myspace.com/solutions_nowhttp://groups.myspace.com/SolutionsNowRadio " Each one, Reach one, Teach one " Solutions Now! Radio respects your privacy and confidentiality. Emails are official Solutions Now! Radio communication and email addresses are never sold or used for advertisement purposes. If at any time you would like to be removed, please reply with " unsubscribe " in the Subject line. Please allow 24 to 48 hours for removal. In a message dated 06/04/07 02:01:35 Eastern Daylight Time, healthnut422@... writes: What you say about the foodstuffs on store shelves is true.But it doesn't support your original position in any way shape or form!This perceived collusion between corporations and governments to control for evil is delusional.I personally exercise toxin avoidance protocols in my life,I don't eat processed food.Be wise be green be happy! Re: Re:Our rights to buy suppliments is in jeopardy Hi, Monsanto is a quasi-government corporation. The kind I work specifically to minimize when it comes to our foods. They do a great deal of research in the areas of genetic engineering - the kind that modifies plants so they do not develop seeds (so you and I cannot get their " property " and grow our own food) or plants that develop the nutrients past the sprouting stage (so you and I cannot eat sprouts). There are many events that may sound like " conspiracy theory " , but are really happening! Who ever thought animal and plant DNA can be patented or that it would be illegal to capture rainwater? Not all seemingly strange things are make believe. L. In a message dated 06/01/07 14:53:45 Eastern Daylight Time, healthnut422@... writes: This is a post based on opinion not facts.Monsanto is a corporation not a governing body.Not to mention there gmos are failing as we speak to live up to there arrogant ambitions.Paranoia and conspiracy are for the weak and foolish!!Write your congressman/woman but there's no need for false allegations based on fantasy!Personal responsibility is the answer not the central government,the sky isn't falling! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Thank you, but can we please get back to sprouting? The numerous other messages are quite off-topic. Fred Kyburz <fredk@...> wrote: I am talking about the US government. On 04.06.2007, at 05:31, JEFF JOHNS wrote: > Uhh, what government are you talking about?And what truth do you > speak of,your words are vague and meaningless! > > Re:Our rights to buy suppliments is > > in jeopardy > > > > I believe the ultimate aim of all governements, is to control food > > supplies to the endth degree, so that only the lowest grades poorly > > nourishing foods are available. > > > > OF course this would not be obvious to the average jo public! They > > want to make sure that we have no natural ways of keeping ourselves > > fit and healthy..! > > > > Look at your Monsanto wanting to take control of all seeds and make > > them sterile..these people and the governements are evil incarnate, > > and tis time people wake up to what is going on ...! > > > > anne > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Amen........... Barbara Reilley <creativeplane1@...> wrote: Thank you, but can we please get back to sprouting? The numerous other messages are quite off-topic. Fred Kyburz <fredk@...> wrote: I am talking about the US government. On 04.06.2007, at 05:31, JEFF JOHNS wrote: > Uhh, what government are you talking about?And what truth do you > speak of,your words are vague and meaningless! > > Re:Our rights to buy suppliments is > > in jeopardy > > > > I believe the ultimate aim of all governements, is to control food > > supplies to the endth degree, so that only the lowest grades poorly > > nourishing foods are available. > > > > OF course this would not be obvious to the average jo public! They > > want to make sure that we have no natural ways of keeping ourselves > > fit and healthy..! > > > > Look at your Monsanto wanting to take control of all seeds and make > > them sterile..these people and the governements are evil incarnate, > > and tis time people wake up to what is going on ...! > > > > anne > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Hi, I don't know if you're a moderator, but I disagree. Discussing modified foods should be a topic covered on this list, as well as, what drove people to sprouting in the first place. If we do not discuss the issues surrounding our future ability to sprout, is the point to this list only to ask " what's a good source for mung beans? " or " has anyone ever sprouted peanuts? " You can find that information by doing a Google search. In the last four days, today included, there has been 44 messages to this list - almost a third of the total from last month. Just something to ponder. Sincerely, L. Mason Hostess, Solutions Now! Radio Telephone: (888) 851-9035 Fax: (206) 350-5500 Email: solutionsradio@... http://blogtalkradio.com/solutions_now_radio http://www.directmatches.com/profiles/SNRadio http://myspace.com/solutions_nowhttp://groups.myspace.com/SolutionsNowRadio " Each one, Reach one, Teach one " Solutions Now! Radio respects your privacy and confidentiality. Emails are official Solutions Now! Radio communication and email addresses are never sold or used for advertisement purposes. If at any time you would like to be removed, please reply with " unsubscribe " in the Subject line. Please allow 24 to 48 hours for removal. In a message dated 06/04/07 07:45:03 Eastern Daylight Time, creativeplane1@... writes: Thank you, but can we please get back to sprouting? The numerous other messages are quite off-topic. Recent Activity 9New Members Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 This group seems to have become more of a " Political Bitch Fest " for a certain few. My delete key is beginning to show signs of wear. newvegesprout <newvegesprout@...> wrote: Hi, I don't know if you're a moderator, but I disagree. Discussing modified foods should be a topic covered on this list, as well as, what drove people to sprouting in the first place. If we do not discuss the issues surrounding our future ability to sprout, is the point to this list only to ask " what's a good source for mung beans? " or " has anyone ever sprouted peanuts? " You can find that information by doing a Google search. In the last four days, today included, there has been 44 messages to this list - almost a third of the total from last month. Just something to ponder. Sincerely, L. Mason Hostess, Solutions Now! Radio Telephone: (888) 851-9035 Fax: (206) 350-5500 Email: solutionsradio@... http://blogtalkradio.com/solutions_now_radio http://www.directmatches.com/profiles/SNRadio http://myspace.com/solutions_nowhttp://groups.myspace.com/SolutionsNowRadio " Each one, Reach one, Teach one " Solutions Now! Radio respects your privacy and confidentiality. Emails are official Solutions Now! Radio communication and email addresses are never sold or used for advertisement purposes. If at any time you would like to be removed, please reply with " unsubscribe " in the Subject line. Please allow 24 to 48 hours for removal. In a message dated 06/04/07 07:45:03 Eastern Daylight Time, creativeplane1@... writes: Thank you, but can we please get back to sprouting? The numerous other messages are quite off-topic. Recent Activity 9New Members Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Well, all I have to say is show gratitude to your delete key. Have a wonderful day! :-) Sincerely, L. Mason Hostess, Solutions Now! Radio Telephone: (888) 851-9035 Fax: (206) 350-5500 Email: solutionsradio@... http://blogtalkradio.com/solutions_now_radio http://www.directmatches.com/profiles/SNRadio http://myspace.com/solutions_nowhttp://groups.myspace.com/SolutionsNowRadio " Each one, Reach one, Teach one " Solutions Now! Radio respects your privacy and confidentiality. Emails are official Solutions Now! Radio communication and email addresses are never sold or used for advertisement purposes. If at any time you would like to be removed, please reply with " unsubscribe " in the Subject line. Please allow 24 to 48 hours for removal. In a message dated 06/04/07 14:31:36 Eastern Daylight Time, cvette1981@... writes: This group seems to have become more of a " Political Bitch Fest " for a certain few. My delete key is beginning to show signs of wear. newvegesprout <newvegesprout@...> wrote: Hi, I don't know if you're a moderator, but I disagree. Discussing modified foods should be a topic covered on this list, as well as, what drove people to sprouting in the first place. If we do not discuss the issues surrounding our future ability to sprout, is the point to this list only to ask " what's a good source for mung beans? " or " has anyone ever sprouted peanuts? " You can find that information by doing a Google search. In the last four days, today included, there has been 44 messages to this list - almost a third of the total from last month. Just something to ponder. Sincerely, L. Mason Hostess, Solutions Now! Radio Telephone: (888) 851-9035 Fax: (206) 350-5500 Email: solutionsradio@... http://blogtalkradio.com/solutions_now_radio http://www.directmatches.com/profiles/SNRadio http://myspace.com/solutions_nowhttp://groups.myspace.com/SolutionsNowRadio " Each one, Reach one, Teach one " Solutions Now! Radio respects your privacy and confidentiality. Emails are official Solutions Now! Radio communication and email addresses are never sold or used for advertisement purposes. If at any time you would like to be removed, please reply with " unsubscribe " in the Subject line. Please allow 24 to 48 hours for removal. In a message dated 06/04/07 07:45:03 Eastern Daylight Time, creativeplane1@... writes: Thank you, but can we please get back to sprouting? The numerous other messages are quite off-topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 I fully agree. Sprouting is a means of getting whole foods that cannot be had or bought anywhere. The question arises now: Why not? What has driven or motivated people to sprout? Why aren't we able to get whole foods, highly nutritious foods? What's the problem or cause? Lots of questions. They only can be answered when there is a frank and honest discussion about these questions. All of these questions gravitate around sprouting. There of course will be people that defend the status quo. That's normal and has to be expected. After all, we are in the mess because people generally object to change and to minority opinions. It has been like this throughout the ages. A forum such as this one should give people the opportunity to find solutions and answers to questions that are not from the mainstream and might be somewhat out in left field. Who cares. The important point is that we have a discussion that hopefully brings us closer to viable answers or solutions. On 04.06.2007, at 11:46, newvegesprout wrote: > Hi, > > I don't know if you're a moderator, but I disagree. Discussing > modified foods should be a topic covered on this list, as well as, > what drove people to sprouting in the first place. If we do not > discuss the issues surrounding our future ability to sprout, is the > point to this list only to ask " what's a good source for mung > beans? " or " has anyone ever sprouted peanuts? " You can find that > information by doing a Google search. > > In the last four days, today included, there has been 44 messages > to this list - almost a third of the total from last month. Just > something to ponder. > > Sincerely, > > L. Mason > Hostess, Solutions Now! Radio > Telephone: (888) 851-9035 > Fax: (206) 350-5500 > Email: solutionsradio@... > http://blogtalkradio.com/solutions_now_radio > http://www.directmatches.com/profiles/SNRadio > http://myspace.com/solutions_nowhttp://groups.myspace.com/ > SolutionsNowRadio > > " Each one, Reach one, Teach one " > > Solutions Now! Radio respects your privacy and confidentiality. > Emails are official Solutions Now! Radio communication and email > addresses are never sold or used for advertisement purposes. If at > any time you would like to be removed, please reply with > " unsubscribe " in the Subject line. Please allow 24 to 48 hours for > removal. > In a message dated 06/04/07 07:45:03 Eastern Daylight > Time,creativeplane1@... writes: > Thank you, but can we please get back to sprouting? The numerous > other messages are quite off-topic. Recent Activity > 9New Members > Visit Your Group > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Ms. Mason, I don't know if you noticed or not but you can also find any political agenda you desire by doing a " google search " . I, too, am concerned about the quality of my food source. I've certainly signed my share of petitions to Congress. But that's not why I joined this group. Looking for a source for mung beans, is exactly why I come to this site. You might want to " ponder " that. R B <cvette1981@...> wrote: This group seems to have become more of a " Political Bitch Fest " for a certain few. My delete key is beginning to show signs of wear. newvegesprout <newvegesprout@...> wrote: Hi, I don't know if you're a moderator, but I disagree. Discussing modified foods should be a topic covered on this list, as well as, what drove people to sprouting in the first place. If we do not discuss the issues surrounding our future ability to sprout, is the point to this list only to ask " what's a good source for mung beans? " or " has anyone ever sprouted peanuts? " You can find that information by doing a Google search. In the last four days, today included, there has been 44 messages to this list - almost a third of the total from last month. Just something to ponder. Sincerely, L. Mason Hostess, Solutions Now! Radio Telephone: (888) 851-9035 Fax: (206) 350-5500 Email: solutionsradio@... http://blogtalkradio.com/solutions_now_radio http://www.directmatches.com/profiles/SNRadio http://myspace.com/solutions_nowhttp://groups.myspace.com/SolutionsNowRadio " Each one, Reach one, Teach one " Solutions Now! Radio respects your privacy and confidentiality. Emails are official Solutions Now! Radio communication and email addresses are never sold or used for advertisement purposes. If at any time you would like to be removed, please reply with " unsubscribe " in the Subject line. Please allow 24 to 48 hours for removal. In a message dated 06/04/07 07:45:03 Eastern Daylight Time, creativeplane1@... writes: Thank you, but can we please get back to sprouting? The numerous other messages are quite off-topic. Recent Activity 9New Members Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Hey, Fred, your anti Bush. Right? Re:Our rights to buy suppliments is > in jeopardy > > I believe the ultimate aim of all governements, is to control food > supplies to the endth degree, so that only the lowest grades poorly > nourishing foods are available. > > OF course this would not be obvious to the average jo public! They > want to make sure that we have no natural ways of keeping ourselves > fit and healthy..! > > Look at your Monsanto wanting to take control of all seeds and make > them sterile..these people and the governements are evil incarnate, > and tis time people wake up to what is going on ...! > > anne > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Hey, Fred, your anti Bush. Right? Re:Our rights to buy suppliments is > in jeopardy > > I believe the ultimate aim of all governements, is to control food > supplies to the endth degree, so that only the lowest grades poorly > nourishing foods are available. > > OF course this would not be obvious to the average jo public! They > want to make sure that we have no natural ways of keeping ourselves > fit and healthy..! > > Look at your Monsanto wanting to take control of all seeds and make > them sterile..these people and the governements are evil incarnate, > and tis time people wake up to what is going on ...! > > anne > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Everyone; What drove me to sprouting in the first place was the fact that a local healthy restaurant served sandwiches and salads with spouts. I bought bean sprouts at the store. I liked the sprouts and felt I could learn to make them cheaper. I sprouted a long time before I found out they were good for me. But, yes, I do want to know how to do it better and where to buy seeds. I do not believe all the garbage that is being said about the government trying to take over my life. I'm 73 years old and have heard the government control subjects over and over and I'm still free to eat what I want, to grow my own garden to sprout what I want and to buy seeds where I want. You people can listen to and repeat all that crap that the soothsayers are predicting, but that doesn't make it true! I call on everyone in this group to be heard if you want it to stop. Thank You, ew Re: Re:Our rights to buy suppliments is in jeopardy Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 13:46:40 -0400 Hi, I don't know if you're a moderator, but I disagree. Discussing modified foods should be a topic covered on this list, as well as, what drove people to sprouting in the first place. If we do not discuss the issues surrounding our future ability to sprout, is the point to this list only to ask " what's a good source for mung beans? " or " has anyone ever sprouted peanuts? " You can find that information by doing a Google search. In the last four days, today included, there has been 44 messages to this list - almost a third of the total from last month. Just something to ponder. Sincerely, L. Mason Hostess, Solutions Now! Radio Telephone: (888) 851-9035 Fax: (206) 350-5500 Email: solutionsradio@... http://blogtalkradio.com/solutions_now_radio http://www.directmatches.com/profiles/SNRadio http://myspace.com/solutions_nowhttp://groups.myspace.com/SolutionsNowRadio " Each one, Reach one, Teach one " Solutions Now! Radio respects your privacy and confidentiality. Emails are official Solutions Now! Radio communication and email addresses are never sold or used for advertisement purposes. If at any time you would like to be removed, please reply with " unsubscribe " in the Subject line. Please allow 24 to 48 hours for removal. In a message dated 06/04/07 07:45:03 Eastern Daylight Time, creativeplane1@... writes: Thank you, but can we please get back to sprouting? The numerous other messages are quite off-topic. Recent Activity 9New Members Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Hello, I actually wasn't discussing politics, but quasi-government corporations and how they are taking control of our food, including the very proteins that make up our foodstuffs. The very ability for us to grow our own food is at stake. It seems to me that any active community that grows its own food would be interested in that. I actually think this group is big enough for both of our needs from a discussion group to be satisfied and see no need to limit it to just a resource list. After all, it's good to know I'm not the only one who uses the delete key. Have a great day! Sincerely, L. Mason Hostess, Solutions Now! Radio Telephone: (888) 851-9035 Fax: (206) 350-5500 Email: solutionsradio@... http://blogtalkradio.com/solutions_now_radio http://www.directmatches.com/profiles/SNRadio http://myspace.com/solutions_nowhttp://groups.myspace.com/SolutionsNowRadio " Each one, Reach one, Teach one " Solutions Now! Radio respects your privacy and confidentiality. Emails are official Solutions Now! Radio communication and email addresses are never sold or used for advertisement purposes. If at any time you would like to be removed, please reply with " unsubscribe " in the Subject line. Please allow 24 to 48 hours for removal. In a message dated 06/04/07 14:52:48 Eastern Daylight Time, mailgeri@... writes: Ms. Mason, I don't know if you noticed or not but you can also find any political agenda you desire by doing a " google search " . I, too, am concerned about the quality of my food source. I've certainly signed my share of petitions to Congress. But that's not why I joined this group. Looking for a source for mung beans, is exactly why I come to this site. You might want to " ponder " that. R B <cvette1981@...> wrote: This group seems to have become more of a " Political Bitch Fest " for a certain few. My delete key is beginning to show signs of wear. newvegesprout <newvegesprout@...> wrote: Hi, I don't know if you're a moderator, but I disagree. Discussing modified foods should be a topic covered on this list, as well as, what drove people to sprouting in the first place. If we do not discuss the issues surrounding our future ability to sprout, is the point to this list only to ask " what's a good source for mung beans? " or " has anyone ever sprouted peanuts? " You can find that information by doing a Google search. In the last four days, today included, there has been 44 messages to this list - almost a third of the total from last month. Just something to ponder. Sincerely, L. Mason Hostess, Solutions Now! Radio Telephone: (888) 851-9035 Fax: (206) 350-5500 Email: solutionsradio@... http://blogtalkradio.com/solutions_now_radio http://www.directmatches.com/profiles/SNRadio http://myspace.com/solutions_nowhttp://groups.myspace.com/SolutionsNowRadio " Each one, Reach one, Teach one " Solutions Now! Radio respects your privacy and confidentiality. Emails are official Solutions Now! Radio communication and email addresses are never sold or used for advertisement purposes. If at any time you would like to be removed, please reply with " unsubscribe " in the Subject line. Please allow 24 to 48 hours for removal. In a message dated 06/04/07 07:45:03 Eastern Daylight Time, creativeplane1@... writes: Thank you, but can we please get back to sprouting? The numerous other messages are quite off-topic. Recent Activity 9New Members Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Hi EW, I began sprouting for many reasons. Controlling my own food, getting better nutrients and decreasing my food budget are among them. Being free to eat what you want is a privilege that is being taken away from us younger folk. No offense old-timer, but " in your day " there were still condors, family farms and many varieties of apples and tomatoes. No condors later, a few remaining tomato and apple varieties exist (and the numbers are plummeting) and the virtual disappearance of the family/community farm spell a cause for concern. Things change and not for the better when people ignore the symptoms of illness. The food you are eating now doesn't even contain the nutrients it did when you were my age (which is 35). How can someone my age ignore the cases of obesity and diabetes in children? The rising cost of quality food? The mislabeling of inorganic food as " organic " or the bottling of tap water - all for profit, no less? I asked this before, but are you comfortable with China's move to dismantle the environment in order to become an economic superpower? The fact that it is widely believed that these things are mutually exclusive frightens me. Have a great day! Sincerely, L. Mason Hostess, Solutions Now! Radio Telephone: (888) 851-9035 Fax: (206) 350-5500 Email: solutionsradio@... http://blogtalkradio.com/solutions_now_radio http://myspace.com/solutions_now http://groups.myspace.com/SolutionsNowRadio " Each one, Reach one, Teach one " Solutions Now! Radio respects your privacy and confidentiality. Emails are official Solutions Now! Radio communication and email addresses are never sold or used for advertisement purposes. If at any time you would like to be removed, please reply with " unsubscribe " in the Subject line. Please allow 24 to 48 hours for removal. In a message dated 06/04/07 16:23:01 Eastern Daylight Time, 99tomatoes@... writes: Everyone; What drove me to sprouting in the first place was the fact that a local healthy restaurant served sandwiches and salads with spouts. I bought bean sprouts at the store. I liked the sprouts and felt I could learn to make them cheaper. I sprouted a long time before I found out they were good for me. But, yes, I do want to know how to do it better and where to buy seeds. I do not believe all the garbage that is being said about the government trying to take over my life. I'm 73 years old and have heard the government control subjects over and over and I'm still free to eat what I want, to grow my own garden to sprout what I want and to buy seeds where I want. You people can listen to and repeat all that crap that the soothsayers are predicting, but that doesn't make it true! I call on everyone in this group to be heard if you want it to stop. Thank You, ew Re: Re:Our rights to buy suppliments is in jeopardy Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 13:46:40 -0400 Hi, I don't know if you're a moderator, but I disagree. Discussing modified foods should be a topic covered on this list, as well as, what drove people to sprouting in the first place. If we do not discuss the issues surrounding our future ability to sprout, is the point to this list only to ask " what's a good source for mung beans? " or " has anyone ever sprouted peanuts? " You can find that information by doing a Google search. In the last four days, today included, there has been 44 messages to this list - almost a third of the total from last month. Just something to ponder. Sincerely, L. Mason Hostess, Solutions Now! Radio Telephone: (888) 851-9035 Fax: (206) 350-5500 Email: solutionsradio@... http://blogtalkradio.com/solutions_now_radio http://www.directmatches.com/profiles/SNRadio http://myspace.com/solutions_nowhttp://groups.myspace.com/SolutionsNowRadio " Each one, Reach one, Teach one " Solutions Now! Radio respects your privacy and confidentiality. Emails are official Solutions Now! Radio communication and email addresses are never sold or used for advertisement purposes. If at any time you would like to be removed, please reply with " unsubscribe " in the Subject line. Please allow 24 to 48 hours for removal. In a message dated 06/04/07 07:45:03 Eastern Daylight Time, creativeplane1@... writes: Thank you, but can we please get back to sprouting? The numerous other messages are quite off-topic. Recent Activity 9New Members Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Ernest, is this a question for a sprouting forum? I don't think so but I will answer it anyway. I can tell you that I am not 'anti Bush' but I am anti-illegal war, I am anti-state terrorism, I am anti- fraud, I am anti-torture. Do you get the picture? If any country would do to us what we have been doing and continue to do against an innocent country, every American would cry foul. Every American would call such action that we impose on Iraq right now and have done for several years 'illegal war', 'state terrorism', 'fraud', 'torture', 'genocide', 'mass murder', etc. Why do Americans think that we can do to others what we would not want them to do against us? Are we as a country such hypocrites? Are we totally immoral and corrupt? I would like you to answer these questions. Now I can tell you something else. People are responsible for the actions of their governments. If we allow such atrocities against another people we will have to pay for it someday somehow. An immutable law of nature is 'action = reaction' or 'cause and effect'. 'What you sow you will reap'. These are laws of nature. I can't change them, you can't change them. They work for individuals as well as countries. Now, if we have done right by going into Iraq and killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people then only good will come from it. Our country will prosper in every respect. On the other hand, if these actions are destructive and evil then destruction will come to America also. I guess the future will tell. Or is it telling already? More and more crime is facing Americans. More and more sickness and limitations are facing us. But of course this has nothing to do with us killing hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings. This is simply happening. It doesn't matter what you believe. The reaction will be manifesting itself. On 04.06.2007, at 13:59, Ernest Willingham wrote: > Hey, Fred, your anti Bush. Right? > > Re:Our rights to buy suppliments is > > in jeopardy > > > > I believe the ultimate aim of all governements, is to control food > > supplies to the endth degree, so that only the lowest grades poorly > > nourishing foods are available. > > > > OF course this would not be obvious to the average jo public! They > > want to make sure that we have no natural ways of keeping ourselves > > fit and healthy..! > > > > Look at your Monsanto wanting to take control of all seeds and make > > them sterile..these people and the governements are evil incarnate, > > and tis time people wake up to what is going on ...! > > > > anne > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 73 years old and you don't see what has been happening under your nose for all of your life? Wow! On 04.06.2007, at 14:21, Ernest Willingham wrote: > Everyone; What drove me to sprouting in the first place was the fact > that a local healthy restaurant served sandwiches and salads with > spouts. > I bought bean sprouts at the store. I liked the sprouts and felt I > could > learn to make them cheaper. I sprouted a long time before I found out > they were good for me. But, yes, I do want to know how to do it better > and where to buy seeds. I do not believe all the garbage that is being > said about the government trying to take over my life. I'm 73 years > old > and have heard the government control subjects over and over and I'm > still free to eat what I want, to grow my own garden to sprout what I > want and to buy seeds where I want. You people can listen to and > repeat > all that crap that the soothsayers are predicting, but that doesn't > make > it true! I call on everyone in this group to be heard if you want > it to > stop. > Thank You, ew > > Re: Re:Our rights to buy suppliments > is in jeopardy > Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 13:46:40 -0400 > > Hi, > > I don't know if you're a moderator, but I disagree. Discussing > modified foods should be a topic covered on this list, as well as, > what drove people to sprouting in the first place. If we do not > discuss the issues surrounding our future ability to sprout, is the > point to this list only to ask " what's a good source for mung beans? " > or " has anyone ever sprouted peanuts? " You can find that information > by doing a Google search. > > In the last four days, today included, there has been 44 messages to > this list - almost a third of the total from last month. Just > something to ponder. > > Sincerely, > > L. Mason > Hostess, Solutions Now! Radio > Telephone: (888) 851-9035 > Fax: (206) 350-5500 > Email: solutionsradio@... > http://blogtalkradio.com/solutions_now_radio > http://www.directmatches.com/profiles/SNRadio > http://myspace.com/solutions_nowhttp://groups.myspace.com/ > SolutionsNowRadio > > " Each one, Reach one, Teach one " > > Solutions Now! Radio respects your privacy and confidentiality. > Emails are official Solutions Now! Radio communication and email > addresses are never sold or used for advertisement purposes. If at > any time you would like to be removed, please reply with > " unsubscribe " in the Subject line. Please allow 24 to 48 hours for > removal. > In a message dated 06/04/07 07:45:03 Eastern Daylight Time, > creativeplane1@... writes: > Thank you, but can we please get back to sprouting? The numerous > other messages are quite off-topic. Recent Activity > 9New Members > Visit Your Group > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Well Fred I respect your opinion and your right to voice it.I don't agree with a lot of what you stated.This started with supplements then food control and now its political with an emotional spin to the left!You should start a new thread titled " Left wing spin for reeducation of the masses no sprouting info. or common sense required " . Re: Re:Our rights to buy suppliments is in jeopardy Ernest, is this a question for a sprouting forum? I don't think so but I will answer it anyway. I can tell you that I am not 'anti Bush' but I am anti-illegal war, I am anti-state terrorism, I am anti- fraud, I am anti-torture. Do you get the picture? If any country would do to us what we have been doing and continue to do against an innocent country, every American would cry foul. Every American would call such action that we impose on Iraq right now and have done for several years 'illegal war', 'state terrorism', 'fraud', 'torture', 'genocide', 'mass murder', etc. Why do Americans think that we can do to others what we would not want them to do against us? Are we as a country such hypocrites? Are we totally immoral and corrupt? I would like you to answer these questions. Now I can tell you something else. People are responsible for the actions of their governments. If we allow such atrocities against another people we will have to pay for it someday somehow. An immutable law of nature is 'action = reaction' or 'cause and effect'. 'What you sow you will reap'. These are laws of nature. I can't change them, you can't change them. They work for individuals as well as countries. Now, if we have done right by going into Iraq and killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people then only good will come from it. Our country will prosper in every respect. On the other hand, if these actions are destructive and evil then destruction will come to America also. I guess the future will tell. Or is it telling already? More and more crime is facing Americans. More and more sickness and limitations are facing us. But of course this has nothing to do with us killing hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings. This is simply happening. It doesn't matter what you believe. The reaction will be manifesting itself. On 04.06.2007, at 13:59, Ernest Willingham wrote: > Hey, Fred, your anti Bush. Right? > > Re:Our rights to buy suppliments is > > in jeopardy > > > > I believe the ultimate aim of all governements, is to control food > > supplies to the endth degree, so that only the lowest grades poorly > > nourishing foods are available. > > > > OF course this would not be obvious to the average jo public! They > > want to make sure that we have no natural ways of keeping ourselves > > fit and healthy..! > > > > Look at your Monsanto wanting to take control of all seeds and make > > them sterile..these people and the governements are evil incarnate, > > and tis time people wake up to what is going on ...! > > > > anne > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 Well that was good for a laugh!Yes I must admit that I'm not familiar with argentines laws.There is a local ordinance here about collecting rainwater that becomes a stagnate pool.Its a public safety issue relevant to mosquito control.Im pretty sure Monsanto had nothing to do with it passing into law. Quasigovernment corp.. and Big pharma are both meaningless.Natural things including plants and animals cant be patented.Distortion of facts for a political agenda is a sad state of affairs.My original point was this is not about sprouting " its political nonsense that everyone already knows about " .Although its quite interesting in a you gotta be kidding me kind of way.Your definition of the word processed is without boundaries.China will do what is best for china,just as the USA. does. Re: Re:Our rights to buy suppliments is in jeopardy Hi, Monsanto is a quasi-government corporation. The kind I work specifically to minimize when it comes to our foods. They do a great deal of research in the areas of genetic engineering - the kind that modifies plants so they do not develop seeds (so you and I cannot get their " property " and grow our own food) or plants that develop the nutrients past the sprouting stage (so you and I cannot eat sprouts). There are many events that may sound like " conspiracy theory " , but are really happening! Who ever thought animal and plant DNA can be patented or that it would be illegal to capture rainwater? Not all seemingly strange things are make believe. L. In a message dated 06/01/07 14:53:45 Eastern Daylight Time, healthnut422@... writes: This is a post based on opinion not facts.Monsanto is a corporation not a governing body.Not to mention there gmos are failing as we speak to live up to there arrogant ambitions.Paranoia and conspiracy are for the weak and foolish!!Write your congressman/woman but there's no need for false allegations based on fantasy!Personal responsibility is the answer not the central government,the sky isn't falling! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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