Re: What's in some of those sprouts you eat?

[Guest guest]

On Sep 29, 2006, at 6:46 PM, Bonnie Klein wrote:

> Hmmmm, I didn't consider this spam since it was about another

> benefit gained by eating sprouts. I thought it was a rather

> interesting article with information I'd like to do more research

> on. Is the individual trying to sell us something? I didn't notice

> any reference to a particular product. Perhaps I missed it. Is

> there some reason I should consider this spam?

>

> Cook <lcoqc@...> wrote: This is spam of the worst

> kind and should have been blocked.

>

>

>

>

This is a scam that's been around for years preying on people with

incurable cancer and other terminal diseases. Try googling to see how

many purveyors of Laetrile have been prosecuted for fraud and are

serving time in federal prisons.

> _._,___

[Guest guest]

Also, if you look at his/her ID, you will notice it

is " mannalivenutraceuticals " and it appears to be a woman promoting

Mannatech crap with links to her stuff. (Something I failed to

notice the first time around.) It is simply not appropriate to

promote one's products or services on an e-mail list like

this...even if they are legitimate! (And Mannatech is NOT!)

--Celia--

>

> He may not have supplied a direct link (hence fooling some folks

into thinking this is legit and he's not selling anything), but

after providing you with much information, he signed off

with " Better Solutions for Global Health. " If you Google that

phrase, it will take you to several 'Mannatech' sites, all of which

sell a whole bunch of bull$%* & with bogus health claims. Do not be

fooled! I can promise you that this snake-oil salesman is copy &

pasting the same infomercial into every other health related site

and e-mail group that does not monitor new members...

>

> With Much Respect,

>

> Celia

[Guest guest]

Louis,

I sent this and you didn't read it before you judged.

It's interesting how sometimes we have a mind block and see

what we only wish to see. So, how do you like that judgement?

I can dish it out without knowing your intention, too.

LL

Re: What's in some of those sprouts you eat?

This is spam of the worst kind and should have been blocked.

L Cook

On Sep 29, 2006, at 5:59 PM, mannalivenutraceuti cals wrote:

> Nature's Cancer Prevention - Vitamin B17

> Have you ever heard of vitamin B17? Maybe you have heard of its

> other name - Laetrile.

>

> Americans cannot access vitamin B17 because the FDA took it off the

> market in the 1970s, and removed it from the B-Complex vitamins. It

> is unlawful for any health practitioner to administer this vitamin

> to patients. Apricot seeds are the best source for B17, but they

> have also been removed from the shelves of every health food store

> and natural market throughout the USA. Limited research has been

> conducted on vitamin B17 since 1977. Once it was banned, it was

> forgotten.

>

> According to research from years ago, provided by nutritionists and

> medical scientists, vitamin B17 is a natural cyanide-containing

> compound that gives up its cyanide content only in the presence of a

> particular enzyme group called beta glucosidase or glucuronidase.

> Miraculously, this enzyme group is found almost exclusively in

> cancer cells. If found elsewhere in the body, it is accompanied by

> greater quantities of another enzyme, rhodanese, which has the

> ability to disable the cyanide and convert it into completely

> harmless substances. Cancer tissues do not have this protecting

> enzyme.

>

> So, according to past scientific knowledge, cancer cells are faced

> with a double threat: the presence of one enzyme exposing them to

> cyanide, while the absence of another enzyme found in all other

> normal cells results in the cancer's failure to detoxify itself.

> Leave it to nature to provide a form of cyanide that can naturally

> destroy a cancer cell. The cancer cells that are unable to withstand

> the cyanide are destroyed, while the non-cancerous cells are not

> threatened by the cyanide, and, therefore, remain unharmed. Never

> underestimate the body's potential!

>

> Vitamin B17 is found naturally in many foods. If you eat foods

> containing vitamin B17, your body will know what to do next. All

> other animals in nature instinctively do this. Consider it nature's

> cancer prevention. If only modern medicine would allow it.

>

> San Francisco's Ernst T. Krebs, Sr., M.D. discovered the healing

> qualities of vitamin B17 in 1923. His sons, Ernst T. Krebs, Jr.,

> PhD., and Byron Krebs, M.D. continued their father's research in

> 1952, refining Laetrile's (B17) nutritional qualities.

>

> From their research, the Krebs believed cancer was not caused by an

> outside invading force but rather by malfunctions of the normal

> mechanics within the body itself. They identified cancer as

> a " deficiency disease. " The body's malfunctions, according to their

> research, were the result of a deficiency of certain chemicals found

> in food, a deficiency of chemicals they specifically identified as

> vitamin B17, as well as a deficiency of enzymes known as trypsins

> produced in the pancreas.

>

> The Krebs had discovered a natural, drugless method to help prevent

> cancer. But their discovery wasn't original. Years prior to any of

> the Drs. Krebs' works, Drs. B. Wood and lin Bache, M.D.

> published a reference volume in 1833 in which they described

> amygdalin, derived from B17, as a common treatment for a wide range

> of diseases and disorders.

>

> Vitamin B17 is also referred to as a nitriloside, which is the

> foundation for Laetrile, amygdalin, and prunasin. Together with the

> pancreatic enzyme trypsin, these can form a natural barrier against

> cancer growth. If foods containing any of the nitrilosides are eaten

> regularly, the body's own immune mechanisms can naturally battle

> cancer-forming cells. But if foods containing these critical

> vitamins are not regularly consumed (or manufactured) , nature's

> mechanisms can't work as effectively against the buildup of factors

> at the root of cancer and the countless number of degenerative

> diseases.

>

> This is happening to human beings today. Not only are advanced

> societies environmentally polluted to dangerous levels, but also

> more and more foods are being altered from their natural state by

> man's own doing. Modern freeze-dried, fat-free, sugar-free, calorie-

> free, weight-watchful, microwavable artificial food substitutes

> don't contain nitrilosides. Most food manufacturers don't even know

> what nitrilosides are. Never in human history have artificial foods

> saturated with preservatives and unhealthy chemicals dominated the

> food supply to the degree they do today. Modern nourishment is no

> longer nourishing.

>

> In the late 1970's, Dr. Harold W. Manner, PhD., Chairman of the

> Biology Department at Loyola University, Chicago, Illinois, studied

> the overall value of Laetrile (B17). His work was well respected and

> considered among the first unbiased studies since the Krebs' in the

> 1920s. He reported Laetrile as being virtually non-toxic.

>

> When Dr. Manner used Laetrile in his medical research, along with

> vitamin A and digestive enzymes, he discovered the production of

> antibodies was stimulated against spontaneous breast tumors in his

> laboratory mice. He studied the results of complete regression in 76

> percent of the treated mice with mammary gland cancers.

>

> Dr. Manner believed Laetrile received its best results when used in

> conjunction with digestive enzymes, a traditional balanced diet, and

> with vitamin A.

>

> No physician has had more clinical experience with Laetrile than

> Ernesto Contreras, Sr., M.D. of the Contreras Hospital in Tijuana,

> Mexico, formerly The Oasis Of Hope Hospital. Dr. Contreras has

> clinically used Laetrile for more than forty years on thousands of

> terminally diagnosed patients, and has received impressive results.

>

> One of Dr. Contreras' patients was a man suffering from severe colon

> cancer. Using Laetrile treatments in conjunction with detoxification

> protocols and proper vitamin supplementation, Contreras was able to

> arrest the progression of his patient's cancer. The man lived more

> than fifteen years beyond his predicted death.

>

> The following is a list of foods rich in vitamin B17:

> - Watercress

> - Spinach

> - Bamboo sprouts

> - Alfalfa sprouts

> - Lentil sprouts

> - Whole nuts

> - Mung bean sprouts

> - Ground nuts

> - Garbanzo sprouts

> - Apple seeds

> - Apricot seeds

>

> LL

> Better Solutions for Global Health

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Actually, I'm a she and a CNC and no better than marketing an MLM

company in a whole foods sprout group which I believe is extremely valuable.

Also, as a Mannatech associate, I would never, ever ever sell someone product

without preaching nutrition or I would be a liar.

So, no... I'm not promoting Mannatech in this forum... I'm reinforcing what

people

are eating!

Stop insulting me. I did nothing to anyone but share valuable information with

no

passive aggressive way of promoting my profit.

So, hang me...

Re: What's in some of those sprouts you eat?

I skimmed it and thought it was pretty informative.

Why is it spam?

fern

..

[Guest guest]

I guess I'll look at your profile and then ban you from a group because

your trying to sell me something through osmosis. How dare you.

Re: What's in some of those sprouts you eat?

Also, if you look at his/her ID, you will notice it

is " mannalivenutraceut icals " and it appears to be a woman promoting

Mannatech crap with links to her stuff. (Something I failed to

notice the first time around.) It is simply not appropriate to

promote one's products or services on an e-mail list like

this...even if they are legitimate! (And Mannatech is NOT!)

--Celia--

>

> He may not have supplied a direct link (hence fooling some folks

into thinking this is legit and he's not selling anything), but

after providing you with much information, he signed off

with " Better Solutions for Global Health. " If you Google that

phrase, it will take you to several 'Mannatech' sites, all of which

sell a whole bunch of bull$%* & with bogus health claims. Do not be

fooled! I can promise you that this snake-oil salesman is copy &

pasting the same infomercial into every other health related site

and e-mail group that does not monitor new members...

>

> With Much Respect,

>

> Celia

[Guest guest]

Actually ,

many of my clients have had many forms of cancer over the years

and nutrition is a must and has to be adhered by with very strict

guidelines. I cannot tell you how education is key to understanding

how to prevent it and how to beat it.

Cancer doesn't scare Naturopaths and people like us when you understand

how whole food components work. " Let your medicine be your food and your

food be your medicine. "

Once it's tampered with and synthesized... it's not recognized by the body

as food. Period.

That is why I joined this Forum. I grow my own food.

Re: What's in some of those sprouts you eat?

On Sep 29, 2006, at 6:46 PM, Bonnie Klein wrote:

> Hmmmm, I didn't consider this spam since it was about another

> benefit gained by eating sprouts. I thought it was a rather

> interesting article with information I'd like to do more research

> on. Is the individual trying to sell us something? I didn't notice

> any reference to a particular product. Perhaps I missed it. Is

> there some reason I should consider this spam?

>

> Cook <lcoqcearthlink (DOT) net> wrote: This is spam of the worst

> kind and should have been blocked.

>

>

>

>

This is a scam that's been around for years preying on people with

incurable cancer and other terminal diseases. Try googling to see how

many purveyors of Laetrile have been prosecuted for fraud and are

serving time in federal prisons.

> _._,___

[Guest guest]

Sell something by osmosis? Ha! I am a long time member that sells nothing, but

you, on the other hand, are selling Mannatech...which is a hoax. As a long

standing member of the medical field, I have done my homework and have had

PLENTY of experience with folks selling your product. I stand by what I said.

If you feel insulted, so be it...

--Celia--

P.S. I am a big believer of using natural products or whatever nature provides

us with before resorting to surgery or medication, (one of the reasons I am a

member of this list), but it must be backed up by real science, not

" self-supported " studies by those who have a vested financial interest in

promoting their product. It's a bunch of hooey.

Re: What's in some of those sprouts you eat?

I guess I'll look at your profile and then ban you from a group because

your trying to sell me something through osmosis. How dare you.

.

[Guest guest]

I don't know, , whether you are a predator or a victim.

Charitably (tentatively) assuming the latter, if you have the wits to

post messages here, you should be capable of - not to say responsible

for - doing some serious fact-checking before you decide to impose

hoaxes such as this on the members of this list.

On Sep 29, 2006, at 8:35 PM, wrote:

> Louis,

>

> I sent this and you didn't read it before you judged.

>

> It's interesting how sometimes we have a mind block and see

> what we only wish to see. So, how do you like that judgement?

>

> I can dish it out without knowing your intention, too.

>

> LL

>

> Re: What's in some of those sprouts

> you eat?

>

> This is spam of the worst kind and should have been blocked.

>

> L Cook

>

> On Sep 29, 2006, at 5:59 PM, mannalivenutraceuti cals wrote:

>

> > Nature's Cancer Prevention - Vitamin B17

> > Have you ever heard of vitamin B17? Maybe you have heard of its

> > other name - Laetrile.

> >

> > Americans cannot access vitamin B17 because the FDA took it off the

> > market in the 1970s, and removed it from the B-Complex vitamins. It

> > is unlawful for any health practitioner to administer this vitamin

> > to patients. Apricot seeds are the best source for B17, but they

> > have also been removed from the shelves of every health food store

> > and natural market throughout the USA. Limited research has been

> > conducted on vitamin B17 since 1977. Once it was banned, it was

> > forgotten.

> >

> > According to research from years ago, provided by nutritionists and

> > medical scientists, vitamin B17 is a natural cyanide-containing

> > compound that gives up its cyanide content only in the presence of a

> > particular enzyme group called beta glucosidase or glucuronidase.

> > Miraculously, this enzyme group is found almost exclusively in

> > cancer cells. If found elsewhere in the body, it is accompanied by

> > greater quantities of another enzyme, rhodanese, which has the

> > ability to disable the cyanide and convert it into completely

> > harmless substances. Cancer tissues do not have this protecting

> > enzyme.

> >

> > So, according to past scientific knowledge, cancer cells are faced

> > with a double threat: the presence of one enzyme exposing them to

> > cyanide, while the absence of another enzyme found in all other

> > normal cells results in the cancer's failure to detoxify itself.

> > Leave it to nature to provide a form of cyanide that can naturally

> > destroy a cancer cell. The cancer cells that are unable to withstand

> > the cyanide are destroyed, while the non-cancerous cells are not

> > threatened by the cyanide, and, therefore, remain unharmed. Never

> > underestimate the body's potential!

> >

> > Vitamin B17 is found naturally in many foods. If you eat foods

> > containing vitamin B17, your body will know what to do next. All

> > other animals in nature instinctively do this. Consider it nature's

> > cancer prevention. If only modern medicine would allow it.

> >

> > San Francisco's Ernst T. Krebs, Sr., M.D. discovered the healing

> > qualities of vitamin B17 in 1923. His sons, Ernst T. Krebs, Jr.,

> > PhD., and Byron Krebs, M.D. continued their father's research in

> > 1952, refining Laetrile's (B17) nutritional qualities.

> >

> > From their research, the Krebs believed cancer was not caused by an

> > outside invading force but rather by malfunctions of the normal

> > mechanics within the body itself. They identified cancer as

> > a " deficiency disease. " The body's malfunctions, according to their

> > research, were the result of a deficiency of certain chemicals found

> > in food, a deficiency of chemicals they specifically identified as

> > vitamin B17, as well as a deficiency of enzymes known as trypsins

> > produced in the pancreas.

> >

> > The Krebs had discovered a natural, drugless method to help prevent

> > cancer. But their discovery wasn't original. Years prior to any of

> > the Drs. Krebs' works, Drs. B. Wood and lin Bache, M.D.

> > published a reference volume in 1833 in which they described

> > amygdalin, derived from B17, as a common treatment for a wide range

> > of diseases and disorders.

> >

> > Vitamin B17 is also referred to as a nitriloside, which is the

> > foundation for Laetrile, amygdalin, and prunasin. Together with the

> > pancreatic enzyme trypsin, these can form a natural barrier against

> > cancer growth. If foods containing any of the nitrilosides are eaten

> > regularly, the body's own immune mechanisms can naturally battle

> > cancer-forming cells. But if foods containing these critical

> > vitamins are not regularly consumed (or manufactured) , nature's

> > mechanisms can't work as effectively against the buildup of factors

> > at the root of cancer and the countless number of degenerative

> > diseases.

> >

> > This is happening to human beings today. Not only are advanced

> > societies environmentally polluted to dangerous levels, but also

> > more and more foods are being altered from their natural state by

> > man's own doing. Modern freeze-dried, fat-free, sugar-free, calorie-

> > free, weight-watchful, microwavable artificial food substitutes

> > don't contain nitrilosides. Most food manufacturers don't even know

> > what nitrilosides are. Never in human history have artificial foods

> > saturated with preservatives and unhealthy chemicals dominated the

> > food supply to the degree they do today. Modern nourishment is no

> > longer nourishing.

> >

> > In the late 1970's, Dr. Harold W. Manner, PhD., Chairman of the

> > Biology Department at Loyola University, Chicago, Illinois, studied

> > the overall value of Laetrile (B17). His work was well respected and

> > considered among the first unbiased studies since the Krebs' in the

> > 1920s. He reported Laetrile as being virtually non-toxic.

> >

> > When Dr. Manner used Laetrile in his medical research, along with

> > vitamin A and digestive enzymes, he discovered the production of

> > antibodies was stimulated against spontaneous breast tumors in his

> > laboratory mice. He studied the results of complete regression in 76

> > percent of the treated mice with mammary gland cancers.

> >

> > Dr. Manner believed Laetrile received its best results when used in

> > conjunction with digestive enzymes, a traditional balanced diet, and

> > with vitamin A.

> >

> > No physician has had more clinical experience with Laetrile than

> > Ernesto Contreras, Sr., M.D. of the Contreras Hospital in Tijuana,

> > Mexico, formerly The Oasis Of Hope Hospital. Dr. Contreras has

> > clinically used Laetrile for more than forty years on thousands of

> > terminally diagnosed patients, and has received impressive results.

> >

> > One of Dr. Contreras' patients was a man suffering from severe colon

> > cancer. Using Laetrile treatments in conjunction with detoxification

> > protocols and proper vitamin supplementation, Contreras was able to

> > arrest the progression of his patient's cancer. The man lived more

> > than fifteen years beyond his predicted death.

> >

> > The following is a list of foods rich in vitamin B17:

> > - Watercress

> > - Spinach

> > - Bamboo sprouts

> > - Alfalfa sprouts

> > - Lentil sprouts

> > - Whole nuts

> > - Mung bean sprouts

> > - Ground nuts

> > - Garbanzo sprouts

> > - Apple seeds

> > - Apricot seeds

> >

> > LL

> > Better Solutions for Global Health

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Please remove this - doesn't pertain to sprouts at all.

Cook <lcoqc@...> wrote: I don't know, , whether

you are a predator or a victim.

Charitably (tentatively) assuming the latter, if you have the wits to

post messages here, you should be capable of - not to say responsible

for - doing some serious fact-checking before you decide to impose

hoaxes such as this on the members of this list.

On Sep 29, 2006, at 8:35 PM, wrote:

> Louis,

>

> I sent this and you didn't read it before you judged.

>

> It's interesting how sometimes we have a mind block and see

> what we only wish to see. So, how do you like that judgement?

>

> I can dish it out without knowing your intention, too.

>

> LL

>

> Re: What's in some of those sprouts

> you eat?

>

> This is spam of the worst kind and should have been blocked.

>

> L Cook

>

> On Sep 29, 2006, at 5:59 PM, mannalivenutraceuti cals wrote:

>

> > Nature's Cancer Prevention - Vitamin B17

> > Have you ever heard of vitamin B17? Maybe you have heard of its

> > other name - Laetrile.

> >

> > Americans cannot access vitamin B17 because the FDA took it off the

> > market in the 1970s, and removed it from the B-Complex vitamins. It

> > is unlawful for any health practitioner to administer this vitamin

> > to patients. Apricot seeds are the best source for B17, but they

> > have also been removed from the shelves of every health food store

> > and natural market throughout the USA. Limited research has been

> > conducted on vitamin B17 since 1977. Once it was banned, it was

> > forgotten.

> >

> > According to research from years ago, provided by nutritionists and

> > medical scientists, vitamin B17 is a natural cyanide-containing

> > compound that gives up its cyanide content only in the presence of a

> > particular enzyme group called beta glucosidase or glucuronidase.

> > Miraculously, this enzyme group is found almost exclusively in

> > cancer cells. If found elsewhere in the body, it is accompanied by

> > greater quantities of another enzyme, rhodanese, which has the

> > ability to disable the cyanide and convert it into completely

> > harmless substances. Cancer tissues do not have this protecting

> > enzyme.

> >

> > So, according to past scientific knowledge, cancer cells are faced

> > with a double threat: the presence of one enzyme exposing them to

> > cyanide, while the absence of another enzyme found in all other

> > normal cells results in the cancer's failure to detoxify itself.

> > Leave it to nature to provide a form of cyanide that can naturally

> > destroy a cancer cell. The cancer cells that are unable to withstand

> > the cyanide are destroyed, while the non-cancerous cells are not

> > threatened by the cyanide, and, therefore, remain unharmed. Never

> > underestimate the body's potential!

> >

> > Vitamin B17 is found naturally in many foods. If you eat foods

> > containing vitamin B17, your body will know what to do next. All

> > other animals in nature instinctively do this. Consider it nature's

> > cancer prevention. If only modern medicine would allow it.

> >

> > San Francisco's Ernst T. Krebs, Sr., M.D. discovered the healing

> > qualities of vitamin B17 in 1923. His sons, Ernst T. Krebs, Jr.,

> > PhD., and Byron Krebs, M.D. continued their father's research in

> > 1952, refining Laetrile's (B17) nutritional qualities.

> >

> > From their research, the Krebs believed cancer was not caused by an

> > outside invading force but rather by malfunctions of the normal

> > mechanics within the body itself. They identified cancer as

> > a " deficiency disease. " The body's malfunctions, according to their

> > research, were the result of a deficiency of certain chemicals found

> > in food, a deficiency of chemicals they specifically identified as

> > vitamin B17, as well as a deficiency of enzymes known as trypsins

> > produced in the pancreas.

> >

> > The Krebs had discovered a natural, drugless method to help prevent

> > cancer. But their discovery wasn't original. Years prior to any of

> > the Drs. Krebs' works, Drs. B. Wood and lin Bache, M.D.

> > published a reference volume in 1833 in which they described

> > amygdalin, derived from B17, as a common treatment for a wide range

> > of diseases and disorders.

> >

> > Vitamin B17 is also referred to as a nitriloside, which is the

> > foundation for Laetrile, amygdalin, and prunasin. Together with the

> > pancreatic enzyme trypsin, these can form a natural barrier against

> > cancer growth. If foods containing any of the nitrilosides are eaten

> > regularly, the body's own immune mechanisms can naturally battle

> > cancer-forming cells. But if foods containing these critical

> > vitamins are not regularly consumed (or manufactured) , nature's

> > mechanisms can't work as effectively against the buildup of factors

> > at the root of cancer and the countless number of degenerative

> > diseases.

> >

> > This is happening to human beings today. Not only are advanced

> > societies environmentally polluted to dangerous levels, but also

> > more and more foods are being altered from their natural state by

> > man's own doing. Modern freeze-dried, fat-free, sugar-free, calorie-

> > free, weight-watchful, microwavable artificial food substitutes

> > don't contain nitrilosides. Most food manufacturers don't even know

> > what nitrilosides are. Never in human history have artificial foods

> > saturated with preservatives and unhealthy chemicals dominated the

> > food supply to the degree they do today. Modern nourishment is no

> > longer nourishing.

> >

> > In the late 1970's, Dr. Harold W. Manner, PhD., Chairman of the

> > Biology Department at Loyola University, Chicago, Illinois, studied

> > the overall value of Laetrile (B17). His work was well respected and

> > considered among the first unbiased studies since the Krebs' in the

> > 1920s. He reported Laetrile as being virtually non-toxic.

> >

> > When Dr. Manner used Laetrile in his medical research, along with

> > vitamin A and digestive enzymes, he discovered the production of

> > antibodies was stimulated against spontaneous breast tumors in his

> > laboratory mice. He studied the results of complete regression in 76

> > percent of the treated mice with mammary gland cancers.

> >

> > Dr. Manner believed Laetrile received its best results when used in

> > conjunction with digestive enzymes, a traditional balanced diet, and

> > with vitamin A.

> >

> > No physician has had more clinical experience with Laetrile than

> > Ernesto Contreras, Sr., M.D. of the Contreras Hospital in Tijuana,

> > Mexico, formerly The Oasis Of Hope Hospital. Dr. Contreras has

> > clinically used Laetrile for more than forty years on thousands of

> > terminally diagnosed patients, and has received impressive results.

> >

> > One of Dr. Contreras' patients was a man suffering from severe colon

> > cancer. Using Laetrile treatments in conjunction with detoxification

> > protocols and proper vitamin supplementation, Contreras was able to

> > arrest the progression of his patient's cancer. The man lived more

> > than fifteen years beyond his predicted death.

> >

> > The following is a list of foods rich in vitamin B17:

> > - Watercress

> > - Spinach

> > - Bamboo sprouts

> > - Alfalfa sprouts

> > - Lentil sprouts

> > - Whole nuts

> > - Mung bean sprouts

> > - Ground nuts

> > - Garbanzo sprouts

> > - Apple seeds

> > - Apricot seeds

> >

> > LL

> > Better Solutions for Global Health

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Please remove this - nothing to do with sprouts. Pandering isn't welcome, sorry.

Celia Browne <cbrowne@...> wrote: Sell something by osmosis?

Ha! I am a long time member that sells nothing, but you, on the other hand, are

selling Mannatech...which is a hoax. As a long standing member of the medical

field, I have done my homework and have had PLENTY of experience with folks

selling your product. I stand by what I said. If you feel insulted, so be it...

--Celia--

P.S. I am a big believer of using natural products or whatever nature provides

us with before resorting to surgery or medication, (one of the reasons I am a

member of this list), but it must be backed up by real science, not

" self-supported " studies by those who have a vested financial interest in

promoting their product. It's a bunch of hooey.

Re: What's in some of those sprouts you eat?

I guess I'll look at your profile and then ban you from a group because

your trying to sell me something through osmosis. How dare you.

..

[Guest guest]

Celia,

I have to agree with . I saw no harm in her posting this information. I

think you are making an assumption about her. If she believes this informtion

about Vit. B17--which I never heard of before--what harm did she do? I think you

need to give us readers some credit for looking into these things oursleves. We

need to all take responsibility for our own health. I personally don't use any

unnatural products. However, I like to know information like this so I can make

sure I include food in my diet that has a full balance of all nutrition. If in

my research I find Vit. B17 is something my body needs, then I will make sure I

eat some foods that contain it.

Again, did NOT try to sell us anything in the email she sent. I think it

would have been wiser or your part to not make an assumption and wait until an

attempt to sell something was made. Or perhaps add what information you have on

vit. B-17 or laetrile instead of immediately attacking her. Information on both

views is helpful and what this site is about. Attacking a member based on an

assumption, is not helpful.

Bonnie

<mannalive@...> wrote:

Actually, I'm a she and a CNC and no better than marketing an MLM

company in a whole foods sprout group which I believe is extremely valuable.

Also, as a Mannatech associate, I would never, ever ever sell someone product

without preaching nutrition or I would be a liar.

So, no... I'm not promoting Mannatech in this forum... I'm reinforcing what

people

are eating!

Stop insulting me. I did nothing to anyone but share valuable information with

no

passive aggressive way of promoting my profit.

So, hang me...

Re: What's in some of those sprouts you eat?

I skimmed it and thought it was pretty informative.

Why is it spam?

fern

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[Guest guest]

I'm insulted and NOT so be it.

NOBODY's here to insult the others.

Not only that SHE NEVER TRIED TO SELL ANYTHING -- you don't present ANY

research YOU did but you talk about doing it -- WELL -- you DIDN'T EVEN

read the info your using to insult others.

Everyone knows what the FDA did. They did this in order to STOP hoaxes.

The DID NOT DO IT because of the information she posted here at this

group site.

If read her information rather than just satisfy your own horrific

needs to attack -- SHE IS PRESENTING INFORMATION that existed BEFORE

that and OTHER developments.

She's entitled to say what she said her WITHOUT INSULT OR ATTACK.

She's entitled to her credentials, too. Is that why you're being

unresonable, because you feel put out by someone who's made a

commitment ?

She's entitled to make a living selling whatever. There's people who

see guns, there's people who sell bombs, there's even people who sell

entire nations into war and hatred.

She wasn't selling anything. YOU and OTHERS here said she was,

though. You think she feels " insulted " ? Wowee. The members here

should -- after you guys jumped like that. You're clearly way wrong.

I wouldn't mind you expressing your opinion about a certain supplement,

but so her info was of a different NATURE -- not support sales OR EVEN

USE of the SUPPLEMENT -- she was just giving background LEADING INTO a

contribution here JUST ABOUT SPROUTS.

As a matter of fact -- SHE DOES THIS as A RESULT of her education. And

certainly -- A PROFESSIONAL who's money making touches on this subject

should be welcome here for the REAL LIFE experience, etc. they can

contribute.

SHE NEVER TRIED TO SELL B17 BUT SHE LISTED

SPROUTS, YES, SPROUTS, and other whole foods that might touch on the

subject she addressed in her post.

There was nothing wrong with 's posts -- it's what OTHERS assumed

wrongfully that hurts.

-- I'm sorry to see they tried to back you into a corner

mistakenly and repeatedly so.

HERE'S WHAT SHE REALLY SAID INSTEAD OF the non-existent activity you

cooked up :

The following is a list of foods rich in vitamin B17:

- Watercress

- Spinach

- Bamboo sprouts

- Alfalfa sprouts

- Lentil sprouts

- Whole nuts

- Mung bean sprouts

- Ground nuts

- Garbanzo sprouts

- Apple seeds

- Apricot seeds

Jerry