Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 JoAnn, Certainly spatial orientation involves the parietal lobes, but I think the confusion between right and left is more likely a dominance issue. You could try some of the classic beta-left, SMR-right or even just some SMR at C4 or Cz. Does she show any left/right reversals of beta or alpha? Does she activate in the assessment (or in the Q if they did activation testing) on the right more than the left--or differentially in different areas? Any of these might be related to confusion. Pete Left/right confusion Pete and group: One of my clients has done a lot of NF work based on her QEEG. She has made great strides with; word retrieval, environment orientation (direction finding), better focus. She did some right sided coherence work, trained down frontal delta and theta and used AVE work with anxiety. She recently asked about addressing her problem in confusing her right from her left. I think it has to do with parietal function, but not sure how one would attempt to train for this specific are? Any suggestions? Thanks, JoAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Hi Joann, I would also try some "Brain Gym" or some of the other gross motor patterning activities in "Thinking Goes To School" before and right after a session NF training. Lise' DeLong, Ph.D. 3100 Meridian Park, Suite # 160 Greenwood, IN 46142 DrLDeLong@... (317) 258-7444 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 joann, i don't know about the implications for nf-training. however, new research done by dr. charles t. krebs suggests that problems in the distinction between left and right are results of a so called " deep level switching " , probably originating in brain stem. there are protocols in the l.e.a.p. programm by dr. krebs to get rid of this, and it often does work. after having done this, brain-gym excercises can indeed help, especially those that concern left-right. best stephan odermatt, switzerland > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 09:35:40 EST > From: DrLDeLong@... > Subject: Re: Left/right confusion > > Hi Joann, > > I would also try some " Brain Gym " or some of the other gross motor patterning > activities in " Thinking Goes To School " before and right after a session NF > training. > > Lise' DeLong, Ph.D. > 3100 Meridian Park, Suite # 160 > Greenwood, IN 46142 > > DrLDeLong@... > (317) 258-7444 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Pete, I am not sure what you mean by activation using a QEEG? Do you mean under task? However, she shows some left right reversal of alpha, although it is corrected now (from training). She also has good alpha blocking, but when stressed out, her frontal theta tends to increase. Also, my understanding (and according to one of your manuals), one of the observed problems in Parietal lobes can be difficulty in distinguishing left from right, which is the problem for this woman. Help me to understand this better? Thanks! And, thanks Lis'e for your suggestions! JoAnn Biofeedback Center of Florida, Inc.8850 Terrene Court (107) Bonita Springs, Florida 34135 Office: (239) 949-2300 Fax: (239) 949-0048www.biofeedbackcenter.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Thanks Stephan! JoAnn Biofeedback Center of Florida, Inc.8850 Terrene Court (107) Bonita Springs, Florida 34135 Office: (239) 949-2300 Fax: (239) 949-0048www.biofeedbackcenter.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 JoAnn and all, My understanding is that right/left confusion is usually correlated with left parietal lobe damage in patients with brain damage. It appears that it is the lower part of the parietal lobe, in particular the supramarginal or angular gyrus, that is the focus for this function. Hiatt,Ph.D. McLean, VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 JoAnn, Many Q's just use eyes closed and eyes open baselines. Some of the newer systems also involve an activation task (e.g. reading, math, etc.), like the TLC Assess does, to see what happens when the brain shifts into gear, not just when it is in neutral. The parietal lobes are related to orientation of the body in space, finding your way, getting lost, even recognizing yourself as separate from the world around you. I think that's different from knowing right from left. Just as reading is different from recognizing that a p is a p and not a q. Those, I believe, are more related to dominance--whether the brain is always looking at the question from the same point of view. Pete Re: Left/right confusion Pete, I am not sure what you mean by activation using a QEEG? Do you mean under task? However, she shows some left right reversal of alpha, although it is corrected now (from training). She also has good alpha blocking, but when stressed out, her frontal theta tends to increase. Also, my understanding (and according to one of your manuals), one of the observed problems in Parietal lobes can be difficulty in distinguishing left from right, which is the problem for this woman. Help me to understand this better? Thanks! And, thanks Lis'e for your suggestions! JoAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 Thanks , I appreciate your feedback! JoAnn Biofeedback Center of Florida, Inc.8850 Terrene Court (107) Bonita Springs, Florida 34135 Office: (239) 949-2300 Fax: (239) 949-0048www.biofeedbackcenter.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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