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Subject: Ok new CP problem

So I've been quiet about this problem for a while now, but I think it's time

to finally ask you guys. I've been having a super-fast trace. I'm convinced

it's the new coconut oil I got from Soapers Choice. It's the 76 degree one.

Of course in the most giant bucket you can imagine. Everything else is the

same - the olive oil (tried both my kitchen one and the pomace one), the

palm oil (getting old, though...), my lye is getting a bit old (can this be

it? Someone say yes!!), and I used the same distilled water I've always

used. Any thoughts on this? It's depressing me. The trace is about 60

seconds (I'm not kidding, I'm listening to music and I don't even make it

through 1 song...) and then I have very thick pudding. I want to do swirls

but I can't because I have pudding! And of course all this is before any EO

or coloring (who has time for that?)! I've used 2 different recipies so now

I really can't figure this baby out. I'd love any thoughts you might have!

Thanks!

Embarassed fast-trace soaper,

Amy

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Interesting Amy...I just soaped using the same coconut oil from soapers choice

and it traced super quick. I even poured my fragrance oil in my liquid oils just

in case....

cnyscbwi <cnyscbwi@...> wrote:

>So I've been quiet about this problem for a while now, but I think it's time to

finally ask you guys. I've been having a super-fast trace. I'm convinced it's

the new coconut oil I got from Soapers Choice. It's the 76 degree one. Of

course in the most giant bucket you can imagine. Everything else is the same -

the olive oil (tried both my kitchen one and the pomace one), the palm oil

(getting old, though...), my lye is getting a bit old (can this be it? Someone

say yes!!), and I used the same distilled water I've always used. Any thoughts

on this? It's depressing me. The trace is about 60 seconds (I'm not kidding,

I'm listening to music and I don't even make it through 1 song...) and then I

have very thick pudding. I want to do swirls but I can't because I have

pudding! And of course all this is before any EO or coloring (who has time for

that?)! I've used 2 different recipies so now I really can't figure this baby

out. I'd love any thoughts you might have!

>Thanks!

>Embarassed fast-trace soaper,

>Amy

>

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I got coconut oil from them last year and as far as I know of i didn't have any

problems. but then that was last year not this year. how are your indoor temps??

it is a bit warm out this year which may make a wee bit of a differance not much

though...

My soaps often trace a bit quick as my temps are a little higher when I start. i

just get impatient and don't want to wait so long to soap. lol

>

> >So I've been quiet about this problem for a while now, but I think it's time

to finally ask you guys. I've been having a super-fast trace. I'm convinced

it's the new coconut oil I got from Soapers Choice. It's the 76 degree one. Of

course in the most giant bucket you can imagine. Everything else is the same -

the olive oil (tried both my kitchen one and the pomace one), the palm oil

(getting old, though...), my lye is getting a bit old (can this be it? Someone

say yes!!), and I used the same distilled water I've always used. Any thoughts

on this? It's depressing me. The trace is about 60 seconds (I'm not kidding,

I'm listening to music and I don't even make it through 1 song...) and then I

have very thick pudding. I want to do swirls but I can't because I have

pudding! And of course all this is before any EO or coloring (who has time for

that?)! I've used 2 different recipies so now I really can't figure this baby

out. I'd love any thoughts you might have!

> >Thanks!

> >Embarassed fast-trace soaper,

> >Amy

> >

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Amy maybe you should try a little extra liquid. I always check my soap recipes

against the sage calculator which gives a range for the amount of liquid to add.

If I want a faster trace or cure time I use the low end of the liquid and if I

want time to work the soap I use the full amount suggested and sometimes a

little extra depending on the eo I use.

Also the sage gives you the amount of liquid to use by volume and not by weight.

I alway measure my liquid and don't weight it and I've never had a problem.

~ Trina

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>

> > >So I've been quiet about this problem for a while now, but I think it's

time to finally ask you guys. I've been having a super-fast trace. I'm convinced

it's the new coconut oil I got from Soapers Choice. It's the 76 degree one. Of

course in the most giant bucket you can imagine. Everything else is the same -

the olive oil (tried both my kitchen one and the pomace one), the palm oil

(getting old, though...), my lye is getting a bit old (can this be it? Someone

say yes!!), and I used the same distilled water I've always used. Any thoughts

on this? It's depressing me. The trace is about 60 seconds (I'm not kidding, I'm

listening to music and I don't even make it through 1 song...) and then I have

very thick pudding. I want to do swirls but I can't because I have pudding! And

of course all this is before any EO or coloring (who has time for that?)! I've

used 2 different recipies so now I really can't figure this baby out. I'd love

any thoughts you might have!

> > >Thanks!

> > >Embarassed fast-trace soaper,

> > >Amy

> > >

> >

>

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Is this a tried and true recipe--or recipes? Are your temps cool? Are you

using a full water amt.? Unless the lye is clumping up, it should be fine.

You could call Soapers Choice and ask Mike if there's something different

about this oil or if others are reporting the same problem. He's very

relatable and loves to talk to soapers.

Beth Byrne

http://www.SoapAndGarden.com

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On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 6:36 PM, cnyscbwi <cnyscbwi@...> wrote:

> **

>

>

> So I've been quiet about this problem for a while now, but I think it's

> time to finally ask you guys. I've been having a super-fast trace. I'm

> convinced it's the new coconut oil I got from Soapers Choice. It's the 76

> degree one. Of course in the most giant bucket you can imagine. Everything

> else is the same - the olive oil (tried both my kitchen one and the pomace

> one), the palm oil (getting old, though...), my lye is getting a bit old

> (can this be it? Someone say yes!!), and I used the same distilled water

> I've always used. Any thoughts on this? It's depressing me. The trace is

> about 60 seconds (I'm not kidding, I'm listening to music and I don't even

> make it through 1 song...) and then I have very thick pudding. I want to do

> swirls but I can't because I have pudding! And of course all this is before

> any EO or coloring (who has time for that?)! I've used 2 different recipies

> so now I really can't figure this baby out. I'd love any thoughts you might

> have!

> Thanks!

> Embarassed fast-trace soaper,

> Amy

>

>

>

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Yes, it's so weird because I've used this recipe before, and used it in the

winter, too, with drier air and ambient room temp (my house being at like 60

because I'm so cheap...) when it first happened in the winter I was like, ok,

maybe it's a one-time thing, but now it's happened like every time since, and

it's the only thing that's changed. I'll try doing what sugessted -

cooling the oils to room temp - I was using 100 for both the oils and lye -

could this be a prob? I'll do anything to make this easier to work with! I'm

using the water amt listed in the recipie - but did someone say to add a little

more, maybe? And I'm definitely calling Mike on Monday, thanks, Beth, for the

push - I get so shy and unconfident but we at the beer factory like to hear from

customers (we can't fix it if we don't know!) so maybe the oil man will feel the

same way. My next move is to use a recipie that uses only a tiny bit of coconut

oil, see what that does.

Thanks everyone!!

xoxoxo

Amy

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > So I've been quiet about this problem for a while now, but I think it's

> > time to finally ask you guys. I've been having a super-fast trace. I'm

> > convinced it's the new coconut oil I got from Soapers Choice. It's the 76

> > degree one. Of course in the most giant bucket you can imagine. Everything

> > else is the same - the olive oil (tried both my kitchen one and the pomace

> > one), the palm oil (getting old, though...), my lye is getting a bit old

> > (can this be it? Someone say yes!!), and I used the same distilled water

> > I've always used. Any thoughts on this? It's depressing me. The trace is

> > about 60 seconds (I'm not kidding, I'm listening to music and I don't even

> > make it through 1 song...) and then I have very thick pudding. I want to do

> > swirls but I can't because I have pudding! And of course all this is before

> > any EO or coloring (who has time for that?)! I've used 2 different recipies

> > so now I really can't figure this baby out. I'd love any thoughts you might

> > have!

> > Thanks!

> > Embarassed fast-trace soaper,

> > Amy

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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I would definitely cool the oils and the lye water down to room temp. first.

Or close, anyway, seeing that it's usually just above freezing. LOL 100

degrees shouldn't be a problem, but it's the first thing I'd change if it

were me.

Have cold water ready, and if it begins to seize, then you can add the oil

and stir quickly.

I've heard that Mike likes to talk to customers, and the times I've talked

to him he was very personable and helpful. I know what you mean, though, I

don't like calling when I can avoid it.

Beth Byrne

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Garden goodness in every bar!

www/SoapandGarden.blogspot.com

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On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 9:26 PM, cnyscbwi <cnyscbwi@...> wrote:

> **

>

>

> Yes, it's so weird because I've used this recipe before, and used it in the

> winter, too, with drier air and ambient room temp (my house being at like 60

> because I'm so cheap...) when it first happened in the winter I was like,

> ok, maybe it's a one-time thing, but now it's happened like every time

> since, and it's the only thing that's changed. I'll try doing what

> sugessted - cooling the oils to room temp - I was using 100 for both the

> oils and lye - could this be a prob? I'll do anything to make this easier to

> work with! I'm using the water amt listed in the recipie - but did someone

> say to add a little more, maybe? And I'm definitely calling Mike on Monday,

> thanks, Beth, for the push - I get so shy and unconfident but we at the beer

> factory like to hear from customers (we can't fix it if we don't know!) so

> maybe the oil man will feel the same way. My next move is to use a recipie

> that uses only a tiny bit of coconut oil, see what that does.

>

> Thanks everyone!!

> xoxoxo

> Amy

>

>

>

> >

> > > **

> > >

> > >

> > > So I've been quiet about this problem for a while now, but I think it's

> > > time to finally ask you guys. I've been having a super-fast trace. I'm

> > > convinced it's the new coconut oil I got from Soapers Choice. It's the

> 76

> > > degree one. Of course in the most giant bucket you can imagine.

> Everything

> > > else is the same - the olive oil (tried both my kitchen one and the

> pomace

> > > one), the palm oil (getting old, though...), my lye is getting a bit

> old

> > > (can this be it? Someone say yes!!), and I used the same distilled

> water

> > > I've always used. Any thoughts on this? It's depressing me. The trace

> is

> > > about 60 seconds (I'm not kidding, I'm listening to music and I don't

> even

> > > make it through 1 song...) and then I have very thick pudding. I want

> to do

> > > swirls but I can't because I have pudding! And of course all this is

> before

> > > any EO or coloring (who has time for that?)! I've used 2 different

> recipies

> > > so now I really can't figure this baby out. I'd love any thoughts you

> might

> > > have!

> > > Thanks!

> > > Embarassed fast-trace soaper,

> > > Amy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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Amy,

Could you please post your recipe that you are having problems with so that we

may help you more?

thanks,

Cheryl

>

> So I've been quiet about this problem for a while now, but I think it's time

to finally ask you guys. I've been having a super-fast trace. I'm convinced

it's the new coconut oil I got from Soapers Choice. It's the 76 degree one. Of

course in the most giant bucket you can imagine. Everything else is the same -

the olive oil (tried both my kitchen one and the pomace one), the palm oil

(getting old, though...), my lye is getting a bit old (can this be it? Someone

say yes!!), and I used the same distilled water I've always used. Any thoughts

on this? It's depressing me. The trace is about 60 seconds (I'm not kidding,

I'm listening to music and I don't even make it through 1 song...) and then I

have very thick pudding. I want to do swirls but I can't because I have

pudding! And of course all this is before any EO or coloring (who has time for

that?)! I've used 2 different recipies so now I really can't figure this baby

out. I'd love any thoughts you might have!

> Thanks!

> Embarassed fast-trace soaper,

> Amy

>

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Ok, so yesterday I tried again and used cool temps - still seized so I used

Beth's trick of pouring in cool water. It thinned it up enough so I could get

it into the mold - still pudding-like, but I shook it around enough and even

managed to do a swirl with another color! I posted it up on FB I was so

excited! (I'm still calling Mike on Monday, lol...even though I'm saving

mega-time with this short trace!!)

So here's the recipe I've been using - lemme know if you see anything strange:

14oz water

6oz lye

12oz coconut oil (!!!)

8oz palm oil

20oz olive oil

Mix at 100 deg. I cooled everything below to room temp for this batch and it

still misbehaved! My scale is a-ok - my palm oil is getting old, could this be

it, maybe, too?

Thanks so much for all the hand-holding, everyone!!

xoxoxo

Amy

> >

> > So I've been quiet about this problem for a while now, but I think it's time

to finally ask you guys. I've been having a super-fast trace. I'm convinced

it's the new coconut oil I got from Soapers Choice. It's the 76 degree one. Of

course in the most giant bucket you can imagine. Everything else is the same -

the olive oil (tried both my kitchen one and the pomace one), the palm oil

(getting old, though...), my lye is getting a bit old (can this be it? Someone

say yes!!), and I used the same distilled water I've always used. Any thoughts

on this? It's depressing me. The trace is about 60 seconds (I'm not kidding,

I'm listening to music and I don't even make it through 1 song...) and then I

have very thick pudding. I want to do swirls but I can't because I have

pudding! And of course all this is before any EO or coloring (who has time for

that?)! I've used 2 different recipies so now I really can't figure this baby

out. I'd love any thoughts you might have!

> > Thanks!

> > Embarassed fast-trace soaper,

> > Amy

> >

>

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That recipe seems to be a lye heavy (0% superfat according to MMS &

Brambleberry)  I would suggest cutting the lye back to 5.6 oz (5% superfat) and

see if you get better results.

From: cnyscbwi <cnyscbwi@...>

Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 11:16 AM

Subject: Re: Ok new CP problem

Ok, so yesterday I tried again and used cool temps - still seized so I used

Beth's trick of pouring in cool water.  It thinned it up enough so I could get

it into the mold - still pudding-like, but I shook it around enough and even

managed to do a swirl with another color!  I posted it up on FB I was so

excited!  (I'm still calling Mike on Monday, lol...even though I'm saving

mega-time with this short trace!!)

So here's the recipe I've been using - lemme know if you see anything strange:

14oz water

6oz lye

12oz coconut oil (!!!)

8oz palm oil

20oz olive oil

Mix at 100 deg.  I cooled everything below to room temp for this batch and it

still misbehaved!  My scale is a-ok - my palm oil is getting old, could this be

it, maybe, too? 

Thanks so much for all the hand-holding, everyone!!

xoxoxo

Amy

> >

> > So I've been quiet about this problem for a while now, but I think it's time

to finally ask you guys.  I've been having a super-fast trace.  I'm convinced

it's the new coconut oil I got from Soapers Choice.  It's the 76 degree one.  Of

course in the most giant bucket you can imagine.  Everything else is the same -

the olive oil (tried both my kitchen one and the pomace one), the palm oil

(getting old, though...), my lye is getting a bit old (can this be it?  Someone

say yes!!), and I used the same distilled water I've always used.  Any thoughts

on this?  It's depressing me.  The trace is about 60 seconds (I'm not kidding,

I'm listening to music and I don't even make it through 1 song...) and then I

have very thick pudding.  I want to do swirls but I can't because I have

pudding!  And of course all this is before any EO or coloring (who has time for

that?)!  I've used 2 different recipies so now I really can't figure this baby

out.  I'd

love any thoughts you might have!

> > Thanks!

> > Embarassed fast-trace soaper,

> > Amy

> >

>

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Hi Amy,

I ran your recipe through the calculator at the sage and it calls for 10 - 15 fl

oz of water and for 6% excess fat 5.69 oz of lye.

~ Trina

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 7, 2011, at 11:16 AM, " cnyscbwi " <cnyscbwi@...> wrote:

> Ok, so yesterday I tried again and used cool temps - still seized so I used

Beth's trick of pouring in cool water. It thinned it up enough so I could get it

into the mold - still pudding-like, but I shook it around enough and even

managed to do a swirl with another color! I posted it up on FB I was so excited!

(I'm still calling Mike on Monday, lol...even though I'm saving mega-time with

this short trace!!)

>

> So here's the recipe I've been using - lemme know if you see anything strange:

>

> 14oz water

> 6oz lye

> 12oz coconut oil (!!!)

> 8oz palm oil

> 20oz olive oil

>

> Mix at 100 deg. I cooled everything below to room temp for this batch and it

still misbehaved! My scale is a-ok - my palm oil is getting old, could this be

it, maybe, too?

>

> Thanks so much for all the hand-holding, everyone!!

> xoxoxo

> Amy

>

> > >

> > > So I've been quiet about this problem for a while now, but I think it's

time to finally ask you guys. I've been having a super-fast trace. I'm convinced

it's the new coconut oil I got from Soapers Choice. It's the 76 degree one. Of

course in the most giant bucket you can imagine. Everything else is the same -

the olive oil (tried both my kitchen one and the pomace one), the palm oil

(getting old, though...), my lye is getting a bit old (can this be it? Someone

say yes!!), and I used the same distilled water I've always used. Any thoughts

on this? It's depressing me. The trace is about 60 seconds (I'm not kidding, I'm

listening to music and I don't even make it through 1 song...) and then I have

very thick pudding. I want to do swirls but I can't because I have pudding! And

of course all this is before any EO or coloring (who has time for that?)! I've

used 2 different recipies so now I really can't figure this baby out. I'd love

any thoughts you might have!

> > > Thanks!

> > > Embarassed fast-trace soaper,

> > > Amy

> > >

> >

>

>

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Amy, do you run your recipes through a soap calculator? If not, I would

urge you to do that every time. It can save you failed batches and ensure

" safe soap. " :-) It's possible that the higher lye can cause quick trace.

Anybody know that for sure?

I should start a campaign for safe soap. LOL

Beth Byrne

http://www.SoapAndGarden.com

Garden goodness in every bar!

www/SoapandGarden.blogspot.com

Like Soap and Garden on Facebook & Twitter!

On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 11:16 AM, cnyscbwi <cnyscbwi@...> wrote:

> **

>

>

> Ok, so yesterday I tried again and used cool temps - still seized so I used

> Beth's trick of pouring in cool water. It thinned it up enough so I could

> get it into the mold - still pudding-like, but I shook it around enough and

> even managed to do a swirl with another color! I posted it up on FB I was so

> excited! (I'm still calling Mike on Monday, lol...even though I'm saving

> mega-time with this short trace!!)

>

> So here's the recipe I've been using - lemme know if you see anything

> strange:

>

> 14oz water

> 6oz lye

> 12oz coconut oil (!!!)

> 8oz palm oil

> 20oz olive oil

>

> Mix at 100 deg. I cooled everything below to room temp for this batch and

> it still misbehaved! My scale is a-ok - my palm oil is getting old, could

> this be it, maybe, too?

>

> Thanks so much for all the hand-holding, everyone!!

> xoxoxo

> Amy

>

> > >

> > > So I've been quiet about this problem for a while now, but I think it's

> time to finally ask you guys. I've been having a super-fast trace. I'm

> convinced it's the new coconut oil I got from Soapers Choice. It's the 76

> degree one. Of course in the most giant bucket you can imagine. Everything

> else is the same - the olive oil (tried both my kitchen one and the pomace

> one), the palm oil (getting old, though...), my lye is getting a bit old

> (can this be it? Someone say yes!!), and I used the same distilled water

> I've always used. Any thoughts on this? It's depressing me. The trace is

> about 60 seconds (I'm not kidding, I'm listening to music and I don't even

> make it through 1 song...) and then I have very thick pudding. I want to do

> swirls but I can't because I have pudding! And of course all this is before

> any EO or coloring (who has time for that?)! I've used 2 different recipies

> so now I really can't figure this baby out. I'd love any thoughts you might

> have!

> > > Thanks!

> > > Embarassed fast-trace soaper,

> > > Amy

> > >

> >

>

>

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LOL Beth!

I agree, higher lye concentrations will speed trace.

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From: " Beth Byrne " <bthbyrne@...>

Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 1:39 PM

< >

Subject: Re: Re: Ok new CP problem

> Amy, do you run your recipes through a soap calculator? If not, I would

> urge you to do that every time. It can save you failed batches and ensure

> " safe soap. " :-) It's possible that the higher lye can cause quick

> trace.

> Anybody know that for sure?

>

> I should start a campaign for safe soap. LOL

>

>

> Beth Byrne

> http://www.SoapAndGarden.com

> Garden goodness in every bar!

> www/SoapandGarden.blogspot.com

> Like Soap and Garden on Facebook & Twitter!

>

>

>

> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 11:16 AM, cnyscbwi <cnyscbwi@...> wrote:

>

>> **

>>

>>

>> Ok, so yesterday I tried again and used cool temps - still seized so I

>> used

>> Beth's trick of pouring in cool water. It thinned it up enough so I could

>> get it into the mold - still pudding-like, but I shook it around enough

>> and

>> even managed to do a swirl with another color! I posted it up on FB I was

>> so

>> excited! (I'm still calling Mike on Monday, lol...even though I'm saving

>> mega-time with this short trace!!)

>>

>> So here's the recipe I've been using - lemme know if you see anything

>> strange:

>>

>> 14oz water

>> 6oz lye

>> 12oz coconut oil (!!!)

>> 8oz palm oil

>> 20oz olive oil

>>

>> Mix at 100 deg. I cooled everything below to room temp for this batch and

>> it still misbehaved! My scale is a-ok - my palm oil is getting old, could

>> this be it, maybe, too?

>>

>> Thanks so much for all the hand-holding, everyone!!

>> xoxoxo

>> Amy

>>

>> > >

>> > > So I've been quiet about this problem for a while now, but I think

>> > > it's

>> time to finally ask you guys. I've been having a super-fast trace. I'm

>> convinced it's the new coconut oil I got from Soapers Choice. It's the 76

>> degree one. Of course in the most giant bucket you can imagine.

>> Everything

>> else is the same - the olive oil (tried both my kitchen one and the

>> pomace

>> one), the palm oil (getting old, though...), my lye is getting a bit old

>> (can this be it? Someone say yes!!), and I used the same distilled water

>> I've always used. Any thoughts on this? It's depressing me. The trace is

>> about 60 seconds (I'm not kidding, I'm listening to music and I don't

>> even

>> make it through 1 song...) and then I have very thick pudding. I want to

>> do

>> swirls but I can't because I have pudding! And of course all this is

>> before

>> any EO or coloring (who has time for that?)! I've used 2 different

>> recipies

>> so now I really can't figure this baby out. I'd love any thoughts you

>> might

>> have!

>> > > Thanks!

>> > > Embarassed fast-trace soaper,

>> > > Amy

>> > >

>> >

>>

>>

>>

>

>

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Whew, safe soap from now on over here! My poor family! I'll do the calculator

from now on - I used to use another recipe, and I hand-checked that one, then

lalala I guess I just trusted this new one. No wonder adding the extra water

worked so well, lol! I'll cut back to 5.6oz lye and report back...thanks smart

soapers!!

:)

Amy

> >> > >

> >> > > So I've been quiet about this problem for a while now, but I think

> >> > > it's

> >> time to finally ask you guys. I've been having a super-fast trace. I'm

> >> convinced it's the new coconut oil I got from Soapers Choice. It's the 76

> >> degree one. Of course in the most giant bucket you can imagine.

> >> Everything

> >> else is the same - the olive oil (tried both my kitchen one and the

> >> pomace

> >> one), the palm oil (getting old, though...), my lye is getting a bit old

> >> (can this be it? Someone say yes!!), and I used the same distilled water

> >> I've always used. Any thoughts on this? It's depressing me. The trace is

> >> about 60 seconds (I'm not kidding, I'm listening to music and I don't

> >> even

> >> make it through 1 song...) and then I have very thick pudding. I want to

> >> do

> >> swirls but I can't because I have pudding! And of course all this is

> >> before

> >> any EO or coloring (who has time for that?)! I've used 2 different

> >> recipies

> >> so now I really can't figure this baby out. I'd love any thoughts you

> >> might

> >> have!

> >> > > Thanks!

> >> > > Embarassed fast-trace soaper,

> >> > > Amy

> >> > >

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

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On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 3:52 PM, cnyscbwi <cnyscbwi@...> wrote:

> **

>

>

> Whew, safe soap from now on over here! My poor family! I'll do the

> calculator from now on - I used to use another recipe, and I hand-checked

> that one, then lalala I guess I just trusted this new one. No wonder adding

> the extra water worked so well, lol! I'll cut back to 5.6oz lye and report

> back...thanks smart soapers!!

> :)

> Amy

>

>

>

> > >> > >

> > >> > > So I've been quiet about this problem for a while now, but I think

>

> > >> > > it's

> > >> time to finally ask you guys. I've been having a super-fast trace. I'm

> > >> convinced it's the new coconut oil I got from Soapers Choice. It's the

> 76

> > >> degree one. Of course in the most giant bucket you can imagine.

> > >> Everything

> > >> else is the same - the olive oil (tried both my kitchen one and the

> > >> pomace

> > >> one), the palm oil (getting old, though...), my lye is getting a bit

> old

> > >> (can this be it? Someone say yes!!), and I used the same distilled

> water

> > >> I've always used. Any thoughts on this? It's depressing me. The trace

> is

> > >> about 60 seconds (I'm not kidding, I'm listening to music and I don't

> > >> even

> > >> make it through 1 song...) and then I have very thick pudding. I want

> to

> > >> do

> > >> swirls but I can't because I have pudding! And of course all this is

> > >> before

> > >> any EO or coloring (who has time for that?)! I've used 2 different

> > >> recipies

> > >> so now I really can't figure this baby out. I'd love any thoughts you

> > >> might

> > >> have!

> > >> > > Thanks!

> > >> > > Embarassed fast-trace soaper,

> > >> > > Amy

> > >> > >

> > >> >

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

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