Guest guest Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Brilliant Idea!@ I will pass it on the Hollywood PS: I will not be a character in the movie, but thanks for all the great casting ideas! i am flattered dk Original Message: ----------------- From: angela watters aangelbaby66@... Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 13:21:00 -0400 EOHarm Subject: Re: Re: Kirby movie deal if they do make a movie I hope they use real autistic kids cause I think it will make the point hit even further home to people what we parents really do deal with everyday Re: Re: Kirby movie deal I picture Mathew Modine. He was in And the Band Played On, he played the researcher for the CDC that stood up to them everytime they had a press conference in the 1980's and said that there was no evidence that you could get AIDS from the blood supply even though they knew people were dying right and left from just that. It was made by HBO and I am really hoping they are the ones making this movie. They are not beholden to sponsers (pharma) like the networks. They wont't pull any punches. nevergiveup883 <ynot2@...> wrote: > , > Please talk about where this stands when we come see you this evening in > Mountain View, CA. It would be an incredible vehicle for raising awareness > of this issue to mainstream America. (My vote - Kiefer Sutherland of " 24 " > for - smart, sexy and gets the job done- or Tom Cruise :-) ! > would be a great choice.) > > > > I heard speak today in Northern CA and asked him about his > movie deal. He said that he just had talks with a MAJOR motion pic > maker and it looks like it will be a go. Maybe this will give us a > boost. I'm thinking Tom Cruise as Kirby and as > Lyn Redwood. > > Kiefer Sutherland is one of those macho Cdn's that Lenny likes Laurie ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Discover Use to plan a weekend, have fun online & more. Check it out!<http://us.rd./evt=32657/*http://discover./> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 What about Travolta? Was'nt he in a similair movie once? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 , Will the movie be a made-for-tv production or a motion picture? I'll take either but would prefer to see it on the big screen. Isn't it funny how in order to gain credibility our side needs to have a movie made to reach the masses. I have hundreds of articles on my hard drive, several news reports, a documentary and your wonderful book. Middle America isn't going to notice our efforts until they see Tom Hanks, Tom Cruise, or living our lives. It makes me really sad. But whatever it takes.......right? Take care, Becky Estepp"dkirby@..." <dkirby@...> wrote: Brilliant Idea!@ I will pass it on the HollywoodPS: I will not be a character in the movie, but thanks for all the greatcasting ideas!i am flattereddkOriginal Message:-----------------From: angela watters aangelbaby66@...Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 13:21:00 -0400EOHarm Subject: Re: Re: Kirby movie dealif they do make a movie I hope they use real autistic kids cause I think itwill make the point hit even further home to people what we parents reallydo deal with everyday Re: Re: Kirby movie deal I picture Mathew Modine. He was in And the Band Played On, he played theresearcher for the CDC that stood up to them everytime they had a pressconference in the 1980's and said that there was no evidence that you couldget AIDS from the blood supply even though they knew people were dyingright and left from just that. It was made by HBO and I am really hopingthey are the ones making this movie. They are not beholden to sponsers(pharma) like the networks. They wont't pull any punches. nevergiveup883 <ynot2@...> wrote: > , > Please talk about where this stands when we come see you this eveningin > Mountain View, CA. It would be an incredible vehicle for raisingawareness > of this issue to mainstream America. (My vote - Kiefer Sutherland of"24" > for - smart, sexy and gets the job done- or Tom Cruise :-) ! > would be a great choice.) > > > > I heard speak today in Northern CA and asked him about his > movie deal. He said that he just had talks with a MAJOR motion pic > maker and it looks like it will be a go. Maybe this will give us a > boost. I'm thinking Tom Cruise as Kirby and as > Lyn Redwood. > > Kiefer Sutherland is one of those macho Cdn's that Lenny likes Laurie------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Discover Use to plan a weekend, have fun online & more. Check itout!<http://us.rd./evt=32657/*http://discover./> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Yes, Travolta starred in A Civil Action, a movie based on a book of the same title that chronicled several families here in Woburn, MA that believed their children's leukemia was caused by contanminated water wells. It's a great book and I'd recommend it if I thought anyone on this list had time to read anything that wasn't directly related to autism. : ) Jeannie in MA > What about Travolta? > > Was'nt he in a similair movie once? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Travolta may have a point --one that most of us probably agree with. Autism is defined by DSM-IV which is an artificially constructed classification defined by behaviors. Scientologist or not, on this one his approach is the right one. DSM-IV is not helpful, blocks insurance coverage, and confuses the issue. As far as I am concerned abolish the term autism, take our kids out of DSM-IV categories and let's get on with the work of getting to the bottom of the physiological roots of our kids' disorders. (Maybe scientologists know something the rest of us don't know--detox is a big part of their protocol) Bob K. On May 6, 2005, at 3:54 PM, Holly Bortfeld wrote: > um, Travolta has a child with autism, but (like tom cruise) he is > a scientologist. that means he cannot/does not recognize any sort of > " mental illness " which as far as the DSM-IV goes includes autism. He > says his son has Kawasaki's and allergies, but trust me, his kid has > autism. > Kirby movie deal > > What about Travolta? > > Was'nt he in a similair movie once? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Leaving an audience with unanswered questions could be haunting and powerful--might even inspire some to get involved with us to demand answers for our children. The fact that it won't have a pretty bow tied on at the end might be motivating to those who would walk away and forget the issue if all was said and done. Other successful movies have left people hanging--"The China Syndrome" comes to mind..... Rita While I too, would be grateful for a movie, I am confused how, when we are still fighting this battle with no end in sight, could there be a truthful ending to a story that is based on facts if one is made up? Wouldn't that take away the credibilty? Most movies that are based on true stories like Brockovitch, had a true ending. The story was done and over, then a movie made. Not many movies on stories with no ending. Documentaries yes, movies no. Would anyone really want to go to see a movie at a theater that has no ending?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 > how, when we > are still fighting this battle with no end in sight, could there be a > truthful ending to a story that is based on facts if one is made up? I agree. We are closer to the beginning than to the end. At the end Evidence of Harm will be regarded as a preliminary or introductory book that was ahead of the curve, and an excellent one, but preliminary nevertheless. Even in the last year major events have occurred and the pace accelerated in ways that are not covered in the book. The best part of the story is yet to come... On May 6, 2005, at 8:49 PM, suzygramble wrote: > > > While I too, would be grateful for a movie, I am confused how, when we > are still fighting this battle with no end in sight, could there be a > truthful ending to a story that is based on facts if one is made up? > Wouldn't that take away the credibilty? Most movies that are based on > true stories like Brockovitch, had a true ending. The story was > done and over, then a movie made. Not many movies on stories with no > ending. Documentaries yes, movies no. Would anyone really want to go > to see a movie at a theater that has no ending?? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Clearing my schedule as we speak.... : ) Re: Kirby Movie Deal Rita, you should write the script.. Better than leaving it to Hollywood. On May 6, 2005, at 8:59 PM, Rita Shreffler wrote: > Leaving an audience with unanswered questions could be haunting and > powerful--might even inspire some to get involved with us to demand > answers for our children. The fact that it won't have a pretty bow > tied on at the end might be motivating to those who would walk away > and forget the issue if all was said and done. Other successful > movies have left people hanging-- " The China Syndrome " comes to > mind..... > > Rita > > > While I too, would be grateful for a movie, I am confused how, when we > are still fighting this battle with no end in sight, could there be a > truthful ending to a story that is based on facts if one is made up? > Wouldn't that take away the credibilty? Most movies that are based on > true stories like Brockovitch, had a true ending. The story was > done and over, then a movie made. Not many movies on stories with no > ending. Documentaries yes, movies no. Would anyone really want to go > to see a movie at a theater that has no ending?? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Rita, you should write the script.. Better than leaving it to Hollywood. On May 6, 2005, at 8:59 PM, Rita Shreffler wrote: > Leaving an audience with unanswered questions could be haunting and > powerful--might even inspire some to get involved with us to demand > answers for our children. The fact that it won't have a pretty bow > tied on at the end might be motivating to those who would walk away > and forget the issue if all was said and done. Other successful > movies have left people hanging-- " The China Syndrome " comes to > mind..... > > Rita > > > While I too, would be grateful for a movie, I am confused how, when we > are still fighting this battle with no end in sight, could there be a > truthful ending to a story that is based on facts if one is made up? > Wouldn't that take away the credibilty? Most movies that are based on > true stories like Brockovitch, had a true ending. The story was > done and over, then a movie made. Not many movies on stories with no > ending. Documentaries yes, movies no. Would anyone really want to go > to see a movie at a theater that has no ending?? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Actually, L. Ron Hubbard created a sauna detox protocol, though to my knowledge did not specify far Infrared. His plan involves high doses of niacin, oils, supplements, and low heat saunas. I did that program (not through Scientology, as I'm not a scientologist) through a medical center in L.A. many years ago. A lot of people who were patients had Multiple Chemical Sensitivity or were firemen who had been exposed to chemicals or people detoxing drugs, etc. -Jill > They did some of the earlier studies on the Far Infrared Sauna. > > > > _____ > > From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of > celiacdaughter > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:35 PM > EOHarm > Subject: Re: Kirby movie deal > > > > > Bob, > I know next to nothing of scientology. How do they " detox " ? > > -Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 For this particular, so controversial issue, I would have to disagree. People go to a movie to see the start, the meat of the story, and an end. This story touches all of America. Because all of America is affected by this because they all, most anyway, vaccinate and believe in the National Vaccine Program, this story is too real, for folks not to want to know an ending. People go to the movies to be entertained and inspired, but if they are not movers and shakers to begin with, a movie will hardly get them motivated to get up and help our fight. It is hard enough to get enough of " us " to make a movement. People do a lot of talking. But actions speak volumes. > Leaving an audience with unanswered questions could be haunting and powerful--might even inspire some to get involved with us to demand answers for our children. The fact that it won't have a pretty bow tied on at the end might be motivating to those who would walk away and forget the issue if all was said and done. Other successful movies have left people hanging-- " The China Syndrome " comes to mind..... > > Rita > > > While I too, would be grateful for a movie, I am confused how, when we > are still fighting this battle with no end in sight, could there be a > truthful ending to a story that is based on facts if one is made up? > Wouldn't that take away the credibilty? Most movies that are based on > true stories like Brockovitch, had a true ending. The story was > done and over, then a movie made. Not many movies on stories with no > ending. Documentaries yes, movies no. Would anyone really want to go > to see a movie at a theater that has no ending?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 -- Also, Civil Action where guilt was proven yet the injuries had all ready been done...let's hope doesn't turn into the poor Travolta character, Jan, who is penniless and alone at the end!!!! I'd rather see it end with Boyd Haley's ( Hurt) new chelation protocol " curing " kids and getting FDA approval, Frist on the front of every major paper like " Watergate " ..aka " Thimerosolgate " ....and Vearstraten coming in at the end...during the trial, saying " We all knew.....the boy's right (Kirby aka Jimmy )..like in Mr. Goes to Washington......they'll all be wishing they were never born (It's A Wonderful Life).... C. - In EOHarm , J. Krakow <rkrakow@e...> wrote: > Rita, you should write the script.. > > Better than leaving it to Hollywood. > > On May 6, 2005, at 8:59 PM, Rita Shreffler wrote: > > > Leaving an audience with unanswered questions could be haunting and > > powerful--might even inspire some to get involved with us to demand > > answers for our children. The fact that it won't have a pretty bow > > tied on at the end might be motivating to those who would walk away > > and forget the issue if all was said and done. Other successful > > movies have left people hanging-- " The China Syndrome " comes to > > mind..... > > > > Rita > > > > > > While I too, would be grateful for a movie, I am confused how, when we > > are still fighting this battle with no end in sight, could there be a > > truthful ending to a story that is based on facts if one is made up? > > Wouldn't that take away the credibilty? Most movies that are based on > > true stories like Brockovitch, had a true ending. The story was > > done and over, then a movie made. Not many movies on stories with no > > ending. Documentaries yes, movies no. Would anyone really want to go > > to see a movie at a theater that has no ending?? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 I read that there were over a million mercury-vapour lights busted when the buildings came down. That would put just about everyone's health up there at risk. Yikes! Kirby movie deal > > > > > > What about Travolta? > > > > > > Was'nt he in a similair movie once? > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 will not end up like Jan Schlichtmann (the character played by Travolta in A Civil Action). Jan Schlichtmann is an attorney that laid everything on the line to expose the truth about children from Woburn, Massachusetts that became ill and some died of leukemia due to spilled chemicals in the local water source from a local factory and tannery. Ironically, one of the wealthy corporations involved was W.R. Grace & Co. who was also primarily responsible for much of the asbestos poisonings in America, especially in Libby, Montana. can’t bring himself to admit there is “proof” of harm, much less go broke to get people to acknowledge that “proof of harm” has been done to those poor families. Maybe had planned a trilogy. First book is “Evidence of Harm” the second book can be “Proof of Harm” and the third book and can be “Justice for All Harmed.” How does that sound, ? Before anyone sends me an ugly e-mail about picking on …he knows that I am just teasing him. He knows that I am one of his fans. and I may respectfully disagree about the definitions of “evidence” and “proof” but I do appreciate the work he put into the book and the attention it is bringing to this tragedy. I’m just teasing because his life has been all work and no play lately…he deserves to have a good laugh. Lujene From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of redhead60707 Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 9:05 PM EOHarm Subject: Re: Kirby Movie Deal -- Also, Civil Action where guilt was proven yet the injuries had all ready been done...let's hope doesn't turn into the poor Travolta character, Jan, who is penniless and alone at the end!!!! I'd rather see it end with Boyd Haley's ( Hurt) new chelation protocol " curing " kids and getting FDA approval, Frist on the front of every major paper like " Watergate " ..aka " Thimerosolgate " ....and Vearstraten coming in at the end...during the trial, saying " We all knew.....the boy's right (Kirby aka Jimmy )..like in Mr. Goes to Washington......they'll all be wishing they were never born (It's A Wonderful Life).... C. - In EOHarm , J. Krakow <rkrakow@e...> wrote: > Rita, you should write the script.. > > Better than leaving it to Hollywood. > > On May 6, 2005, at 8:59 PM, Rita Shreffler wrote: > > > Leaving an audience with unanswered questions could be haunting and > > powerful--might even inspire some to get involved with us to demand > > answers for our children. The fact that it won't have a pretty bow > > tied on at the end might be motivating to those who would walk away > > and forget the issue if all was said and done. Other successful > > movies have left people hanging-- " The China Syndrome " comes to > > mind..... > > > > Rita > > > > > > While I too, would be grateful for a movie, I am confused how, when we > > are still fighting this battle with no end in sight, could there be a > > truthful ending to a story that is based on facts if one is made up? > > Wouldn't that take away the credibilty? Most movies that are based on > > true stories like Brockovitch, had a true ending. The story was > > done and over, then a movie made. Not many movies on stories with no > > ending. Documentaries yes, movies no. Would anyone really want to go > > to see a movie at a theater that has no ending?? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 By the way, Jan Schlichtman, the real life main protagonist of Civil Action only played in the movie by Travolta, is alive and well with a law practice in Mass., is doing great work, and even has an Internet radio program for lawyers. I even told him about our cause and, of course, he is very supportive. On May 6, 2005, at 10:04 PM, redhead60707 wrote: > -- > > Also, Civil Action where guilt was proven yet the injuries had all > ready been done...let's hope doesn't turn into the poor > Travolta character, Jan, who is penniless and alone at the end!!!! > I'd rather see it end with Boyd Haley's ( Hurt) new chelation > protocol " curing " kids and getting FDA approval, Frist on the front > of every major paper like " Watergate " ..aka " Thimerosolgate " ....and > Vearstraten coming in at the end...during the trial, saying " We all > knew.....the boy's right (Kirby aka Jimmy )..like in Mr. > Goes to Washington......they'll all be wishing they were never > born (It's A Wonderful Life).... C. > > - In EOHarm , J. Krakow <rkrakow@e...> wrote: > > Rita, you should write the script.. > > > > Better than leaving it to Hollywood. > > > > On May 6, 2005, at 8:59 PM, Rita Shreffler wrote: > > > > > Leaving an audience with unanswered questions could be haunting > and > > > powerful--might even inspire some to get involved with us to > demand > > > answers for our children. The fact that it won't have a pretty > bow > > > tied on at the end might be motivating to those who would walk > away > > > and forget the issue if all was said and done. Other successful > > > movies have left people hanging-- " The China Syndrome " comes to > > > mind..... > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > While I too, would be grateful for a movie, I am confused how, > when we > > > are still fighting this battle with no end in sight, could there > be a > > > truthful ending to a story that is based on facts if one is made > up? > > > Wouldn't that take away the credibilty? Most movies that are > based on > > > true stories like Brockovitch, had a true ending. The > story was > > > done and over, then a movie made. Not many movies on stories > with no > > > ending. Documentaries yes, movies no. Would anyone really > want to go > > > to see a movie at a theater that has no ending?? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 I think Mr. Kirby was a bit disturbed by the way smugly crafted quasi-highbrow appearing remarks like "no evidence of harm" always seem to be the pat substitute for not being honest enough to tell the public we are actually taking the scientific Fifth amendment or we scientists were too stupid to think of "that". So in a clever touché he wants the reader to understand that the book does present the Evidence of Harm and also he directly and confidently challenges his snarky opponents to a duel. Out of the blood is not exactly out of the body, is it? RE: Re: Kirby Movie Deal will not end up like Jan Schlichtmann (the character played by Travolta in A Civil Action). Jan Schlichtmann is an attorney that laid everything on the line to expose the truth about children from Woburn, Massachusetts that became ill and some died of leukemia due to spilled chemicals in the local water source from a local factory and tannery. Ironically, one of the wealthy corporations involved was W.R. Grace & Co. who was also primarily responsible for much of the asbestos poisonings in America, especially in Libby, Montana. can’t bring himself to admit there is “proof” of harm, much less go broke to get people to acknowledge that “proof of harm” has been done to those poor families. Maybe had planned a trilogy. First book is “Evidence of Harm” the second book can be “Proof of Harm” and the third book and can be “Justice for All Harmed.” How does that sound, ? Before anyone sends me an ugly e-mail about picking on …he knows that I am just teasing him. He knows that I am one of his fans. and I may respectfully disagree about the definitions of “evidence” and “proof” but I do appreciate the work he put into the book and the attention it is bringing to this tragedy. I’m just teasing because his life has been all work and no play lately…he deserves to have a good laugh. Lujene From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of redhead60707Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 9:05 PMEOHarm Subject: Re: Kirby Movie Deal --Also, Civil Action where guilt was proven yet the injuries had all ready been done...let's hope doesn't turn into the poor Travolta character, Jan, who is penniless and alone at the end!!!! I'd rather see it end with Boyd Haley's ( Hurt) new chelation protocol "curing" kids and getting FDA approval, Frist on the front of every major paper like "Watergate"..aka "Thimerosolgate"....and Vearstraten coming in at the end...during the trial, saying "We all knew.....the boy's right (Kirby aka Jimmy )..like in Mr. Goes to Washington......they'll all be wishing they were never born (It's A Wonderful Life).... C.- In EOHarm , J. Krakow <rkrakow@e...> wrote:> Rita, you should write the script..> > Better than leaving it to Hollywood.> > On May 6, 2005, at 8:59 PM, Rita Shreffler wrote:> > > Leaving an audience with unanswered questions could be haunting and > > powerful--might even inspire some to get involved with us to demand > > answers for our children. The fact that it won't have a pretty bow > > tied on at the end might be motivating to those who would walk away > > and forget the issue if all was said and done. Other successful > > movies have left people hanging--"The China Syndrome" comes to > > mind.....> > > > Rita> >> >> > While I too, would be grateful for a movie, I am confused how, when we> > are still fighting this battle with no end in sight, could there be a> > truthful ending to a story that is based on facts if one is made up? > > Wouldn't that take away the credibilty? Most movies that are based on> > true stories like Brockovitch, had a true ending. The story was> > done and over, then a movie made. Not many movies on stories with no> > ending. Documentaries yes, movies no. Would anyone really want to go> > to see a movie at a theater that has no ending??> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 THanks Lugene - I wish other list members would stick to teasing and ditch the trashing. I guess these are the thanks that i will be receiving. I prefer to stop talking about autism altogether and to go back to my own life. dk Original Message: ----------------- From: Lujene G. lgclark@... Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 22:04:36 -0500 EOHarm Subject: RE: Re: Kirby Movie Deal will not end up like Jan Schlichtmann (the character played by Travolta in A Civil Action). Jan Schlichtmann is an attorney that laid everything on the line to expose the truth about children from Woburn, Massachusetts that became ill and some died of leukemia due to spilled chemicals in the local water source from a local factory and tannery. Ironically, one of the wealthy corporations involved was W.R. Grace & Co. who was also primarily responsible for much of the asbestos poisonings in America, especially in Libby, Montana. can't bring himself to admit there is " proof " of harm, much less go broke to get people to acknowledge that " proof of harm " has been done to those poor families. Maybe had planned a trilogy. First book is " Evidence of Harm " the second book can be " Proof of Harm " and the third book and can be " Justice for All Harmed. " How does that sound, ? Before anyone sends me an ugly e-mail about picking on .he knows that I am just teasing him. He knows that I am one of his fans. and I may respectfully disagree about the definitions of " evidence " and " proof " but I do appreciate the work he put into the book and the attention it is bringing to this tragedy. I'm just teasing because his life has been all work and no play lately.he deserves to have a good laugh. Lujene _____ From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of redhead60707 Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 9:05 PM EOHarm Subject: Re: Kirby Movie Deal -- Also, Civil Action where guilt was proven yet the injuries had all ready been done...let's hope doesn't turn into the poor Travolta character, Jan, who is penniless and alone at the end!!!! I'd rather see it end with Boyd Haley's ( Hurt) new chelation protocol " curing " kids and getting FDA approval, Frist on the front of every major paper like " Watergate " ..aka " Thimerosolgate " ....and Vearstraten coming in at the end...during the trial, saying " We all knew.....the boy's right (Kirby aka Jimmy )..like in Mr. Goes to Washington......they'll all be wishing they were never born (It's A Wonderful Life).... C. - In EOHarm , J. Krakow <rkrakow@e...> wrote: > Rita, you should write the script.. > > Better than leaving it to Hollywood. > > On May 6, 2005, at 8:59 PM, Rita Shreffler wrote: > > > Leaving an audience with unanswered questions could be haunting and > > powerful--might even inspire some to get involved with us to demand > > answers for our children. The fact that it won't have a pretty bow > > tied on at the end might be motivating to those who would walk away > > and forget the issue if all was said and done. Other successful > > movies have left people hanging-- " The China Syndrome " comes to > > mind..... > > > > Rita > > > > > > While I too, would be grateful for a movie, I am confused how, when we > > are still fighting this battle with no end in sight, could there be a > > truthful ending to a story that is based on facts if one is made up? > > Wouldn't that take away the credibilty? Most movies that are based on > > true stories like Brockovitch, had a true ending. The story was > > done and over, then a movie made. Not many movies on stories with no > > ending. Documentaries yes, movies no. Would anyone really want to go > > to see a movie at a theater that has no ending?? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Hey !!! You are my hero! Being an unbiased journalist is what you must do; otherwise there would be no credibility. The book speaks for itself. Don't stop talking about it! Your life is way more exciting now (right?) You are doing a good thing (and I am praying you make scads of money from it). ~Becky > > > > > Leaving an audience with unanswered questions could be haunting > and > > > powerful--might even inspire some to get involved with us to > demand > > > answers for our children. The fact that it won't have a pretty > bow > > > tied on at the end might be motivating to those who would walk > away > > > and forget the issue if all was said and done. Other successful > > > movies have left people hanging-- " The China Syndrome " comes to > > > mind..... > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > While I too, would be grateful for a movie, I am confused how, > when we > > > are still fighting this battle with no end in sight, could there > be a > > > truthful ending to a story that is based on facts if one is made > up? > > > Wouldn't that take away the credibilty? Most movies that are > based on > > > true stories like Brockovitch, had a true ending. The > story was > > > done and over, then a movie made. Not many movies on stories > with no > > > ending. Documentaries yes, movies no. Would anyone really > want to go > > > to see a movie at a theater that has no ending?? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 thanks Becky. It is just so interesting to be vilified by both side of this isse, but escially from the parents. I guess if your messenger does not sing in locktep with your own beliefs, he must be destroyed. SWell, just let me move on, and I will never speak of autism again, if people are so pissed off at me, they should have the nerve to write to me directlly - DK On to talks about wine, commedy and bread making! Sick kids and their parents dont care about a reporterd rep. dk Original Message: ----------------- From: Becky nelsons@... Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 09:17:55 +0000 EOHarm Subject: Re: Kirby Movie Deal Hey !!! You are my hero! Being an unbiased journalist is what you must do; otherwise there would be no credibility. The book speaks for itself. Don't stop talking about it! Your life is way more exciting now (right?) You are doing a good thing (and I am praying you make scads of money from it). ~Becky > > > > > Leaving an audience with unanswered questions could be haunting > and > > > powerful--might even inspire some to get involved with us to > demand > > > answers for our children. The fact that it won't have a pretty > bow > > > tied on at the end might be motivating to those who would walk > away > > > and forget the issue if all was said and done. Other successful > > > movies have left people hanging-- " The China Syndrome " comes to > > > mind..... > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > While I too, would be grateful for a movie, I am confused how, > when we > > > are still fighting this battle with no end in sight, could there > be a > > > truthful ending to a story that is based on facts if one is made > up? > > > Wouldn't that take away the credibilty? Most movies that are > based on > > > true stories like Brockovitch, had a true ending. The > story was > > > done and over, then a movie made. Not many movies on stories > with no > > > ending. Documentaries yes, movies no. Would anyone really > want to go > > > to see a movie at a theater that has no ending?? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 , , ! No No No. You must save wine, commedy and bread making for later - when you are filthy rich. Okay? The vast majority of us 99.9% are kissing you feet with gratitude. There is a place in Heaven reserved for you. ~Becky Ps - If anyone messes with I'm going to come and personally kick their @$$. LOL > > > > > > > Leaving an audience with unanswered questions could be > haunting > > and > > > > powerful--might even inspire some to get involved with us to > > demand > > > > answers for our children. The fact that it won't have a > pretty > > bow > > > > tied on at the end might be motivating to those who would walk > > away > > > > and forget the issue if all was said and done. Other > successful > > > > movies have left people hanging-- " The China Syndrome " comes to > > > > mind..... > > > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > While I too, would be grateful for a movie, I am confused how, > > when we > > > > are still fighting this battle with no end in sight, could > there > > be a > > > > truthful ending to a story that is based on facts if one is > made > > up? > > > > Wouldn't that take away the credibilty? Most movies that are > > based on > > > > true stories like Brockovitch, had a true ending. The > > story was > > > > done and over, then a movie made. Not many movies on stories > > with no > > > > ending. Documentaries yes, movies no. Would anyone really > > want to go > > > > to see a movie at a theater that has no ending?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Thanks Becky - but it wont stop my parental detractors. Funny how the attacks have come from parents and not from govt officials. THis will be the topic of my first blog for Arianna Huffington, and names will be named, so watch out. For those of you mad at me for not declaring " proof " i suggest you go to J-School. dk Original Message: ----------------- From: Becky nelsons@... Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 09:17:55 +0000 EOHarm Subject: Re: Kirby Movie Deal Hey !!! You are my hero! Being an unbiased journalist is what you must do; otherwise there would be no credibility. The book speaks for itself. Don't stop talking about it! Your life is way more exciting now (right?) You are doing a good thing (and I am praying you make scads of money from it). ~Becky > > > > > Leaving an audience with unanswered questions could be haunting > and > > > powerful--might even inspire some to get involved with us to > demand > > > answers for our children. The fact that it won't have a pretty > bow > > > tied on at the end might be motivating to those who would walk > away > > > and forget the issue if all was said and done. Other successful > > > movies have left people hanging-- " The China Syndrome " comes to > > > mind..... > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > While I too, would be grateful for a movie, I am confused how, > when we > > > are still fighting this battle with no end in sight, could there > be a > > > truthful ending to a story that is based on facts if one is made > up? > > > Wouldn't that take away the credibilty? Most movies that are > based on > > > true stories like Brockovitch, had a true ending. The > story was > > > done and over, then a movie made. Not many movies on stories > with no > > > ending. Documentaries yes, movies no. Would anyone really > want to go > > > to see a movie at a theater that has no ending?? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 I see your point, . Sometimes I wish I could walk away from this autism thing! It sucks. I still think every day, " Why did it have to be my kids? " It is very depressing. I will have eternal gratitute to you for bringing this issue out into the open. You are accurately reporting facts. You cannot base your statements on emotions. That is what makes the book so credible. If I wrote a book it would suck (LOL). Regarding the movie - I am sure a major motion picture company will come up with an appropriate ending! Duh! Like, they are professionals, people! , don't you worry your cute, handsome little head over any of this okay? You are an awesome journalist. Anyone who thinks otherwise just let me know and I will beat them up. ~Becky PS Who is Arianna Huffington? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 I figured it out (Arianna Huffington): Arianna Huffington is a nationally syndicated columnist and author of ten books. Originally from Greece, she moved to England when she was sixteen and graduated from Cambridge University with an M.A. in Economics. At twenty-one she became President of the famed debating society, the Cambridge Union. The Huffington Post: " Ever since college, I have always enjoyed bringing together people from many different parts of my life, and facilitating interesting conversations. These conversations have taken place around dinner tables, or at book parties, or on hikes with disparate groups of friends. With the Huffington Post, we want to take those conversations -- about politics and books and art and music and food and sex -- and bring them into cyberspace, which is where so many of us spend so much of our time these days. " -Arianna Huffington http://www.ariannaonline.com/ http://www.ariannaonline.com/blog/index.php > I see your point, . Sometimes I wish I could walk away from this > autism thing! It sucks. I still think every day, " Why did it have to > be my kids? " It is very depressing. I will have eternal gratitute to > you for bringing this issue out into the open. You are accurately > reporting facts. You cannot base your statements on emotions. That > is what makes the book so credible. If I wrote a book it would suck > (LOL). Regarding the movie - I am sure a major motion picture company > will come up with an appropriate ending! Duh! Like, they are > professionals, people! , don't you worry your cute, handsome > little head over any of this okay? You are an awesome journalist. > Anyone who thinks otherwise just let me know and I will beat them up. > > ~Becky > > PS Who is Arianna Huffington? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Good grief , I was not trashing you. And I am NOT a parental detractor. You always seemed to appreciate humor even if it had a bite...heaven knows Lenny, Bob, and others can dish out a good poke in the ribs at someone and you always seemed to appreciate their humor for what it was… teasing. We have to laugh at ourselves and occasionally others every now and then, , or this stuff will drive us crazy. We had just written to each other joking about the comments. I even stated that I was “glad you took my ‘tongue-in-cheek’ comments in the true spirit they were meant. I knew you would laugh...and I thought you could probably use that about now.” And then I wished you luck with the rest of your tour. All was fine. The comparison itself should have been humorous. Jan (A Civil Action) was an attorney and if you saw the movie, part of the reason he went broke is because he got greedy and over-confident in the end (he walked away from a $20,000,000 dollar settlement). I seriously doubt you will walk away if the movie deals offers you $20 million, right? You are not greedy and over-confident. Your are a hard-working journalist and should not be compared to a lawyer. If you seriously took offense, then I apologize (have done so privately) and am now doing so publicly on the list. I am sorry you were offended by my observations and comments. They were not meant to be hurtful to you or anyone else. What you may not realize is your " evidence but no proof " IS causing some of us advocates difficultly, especially in the legislative arena. I find that disappointing given how hard many of us have worked to bring strength, credibility and legitimacy to this effort. Only because many of the parents HAVE worked just as hard as you to bring this issue forward. That is my whole point…YOU have worked REALLY hard to bring this issue forward. Why confuse the issue by using statements that appear or seem not to stand by your own book. The book is filled with reasons for someone to be concerned about mercury in vaccines. Your work and the evidence will stand on its own merits; all I had encouraged you to do was to trust yourself, your work and the strength of the evidence. You did good! Your personal appearances should be as strong as your work…that was my point. I really do like you personally, appreciate your efforts, and enjoyed your book very much. But the reality is, I have already had those words “evidence but no proof” thrown back at me in state efforts from someone who had heard one of your interviews…and it was very frustrating. Not only do I have to battle the nonsense dished out by CDC, FDA, AAP, the various state Departments of Health but NOW, I have to overcome the “evidence but no proof” stuff to get a bill passed. It’s like trying to like Mount Everest in high heels. I can imagine the rigors of touring are frustrating but so is what we are doing…we all blow off a little steam and sometimes the humor is a bit too dry or morbid. Let’s put this behind us and all go about our mission. Yours to promote a wonderful book you have worked long, hard hours to complete and us to heal our children and prevent others from being harmed. Sound fair? Again, if you took offense, then I apologize and am now doing so publicly on this list. I sincerely apologize that you were offended. Lujene From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of dkirby@... Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 4:37 AM EOHarm Subject: RE: Re: Kirby Movie Deal Thanks Becky - but it wont stop my parental detractors. Funny how the attacks have come from parents and not from govt officials. THis will be the topic of my first blog for Arianna Huffington, and names will be named, so watch out. For those of you mad at me for not declaring " proof " i suggest you go to J-School. dk Original Message: ----------------- From: Becky nelsons@... Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 09:17:55 +0000 EOHarm Subject: Re: Kirby Movie Deal Hey !!! You are my hero! Being an unbiased journalist is what you must do; otherwise there would be no credibility. The book speaks for itself. Don't stop talking about it! Your life is way more exciting now (right?) You are doing a good thing (and I am praying you make scads of money from it). ~Becky > > > > > Leaving an audience with unanswered questions could be haunting > and > > > powerful--might even inspire some to get involved with us to > demand > > > answers for our children. The fact that it won't have a pretty > bow > > > tied on at the end might be motivating to those who would walk > away > > > and forget the issue if all was said and done. Other successful > > > movies have left people hanging-- " The China Syndrome " comes to > > > mind..... > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > While I too, would be grateful for a movie, I am confused how, > when we > > > are still fighting this battle with no end in sight, could there > be a > > > truthful ending to a story that is based on facts if one is made > up? > > > Wouldn't that take away the credibilty? Most movies that are > based on > > > true stories like Brockovitch, had a true ending. The > story was > > > done and over, then a movie made. Not many movies on stories > with no > > > ending. Documentaries yes, movies no. Would anyone really > want to go > > > to see a movie at a theater that has no ending?? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Lujene - I am almost certain that was not talking about you ~Becky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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