Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 << I can't really offer proof that humans are born herbivores >> why do we still have canine teeth? <> not necessarily a good thing. what goes up must come down. in fact i have read just the opposite, that a good meal is supposed to feel neutral. as my chemistry balances i am very inclined to agree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 That's a good point. But, as I recall, carnivore digestive systems are more acidic and very short in length and " transit time " -- I think the carnivore just grabs the most readily available food value and the rest goes out the exhaust pipe. If they need more nourishment, they just find some more walking around ;-) I can't really offer proof that humans are born herbivores, but I would say that plants are the best fuel source that we have readily. I juice much of my plant food everyday to bypass the problem of plant cell membranes. This gives a very high utilization of nutrients. I often feel a tremendous energy rush after a meal, where I remember Standard American Diet meals left me running at half speed. Raw tissue is definitely more nutritious than cooked, but... I find it hard to understand why people will actually choose to eat livers, kidneys, legs, arms, and butts than grapefruits, pears, almonds, olives, spinach, lettuce, etc... I think a lot of it is conditioning. Why do we think cow milk is " good " but pig milk, horse milk, or rodent milk are repugnant? Even the idea of a grown person consuming human milk seems somehow bizarre. There is an energy cycle to life forms. The energy level in plants is highest soon after sprouting, there is something of a peak when fruit ripens and vegetation matures, then it slowly fades and decays. When an animal is killed the energy level drops very quickly to just about zero then goes negative as decay sets in. There may still be " nutritious " stuff in there, but I think we live on energy not chemicals. Rex > rdoane said: > " But...animal cells are contained in tough membranes, so a lot of the > food > value just passes through. More is lost by the cooking process, " > **************************************************************** > > Dear rd > > I have to disagree with you here. Muscle and organ cells of animals have > much less " tough " membranes than plant cell membranes. If what you said > were true, then all carnivores would be malnourished. My experience has > been that RAW muscle and organ tissue is very easily digested and very > nourishing. > > Cooking of any food, plant or animal source, causes much loss of food > value. It also causes a " de-naturing " or detrimental changing of the > substance that creates havoc in our bodies. > > Corny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 In a message dated 4/24/01 2:54:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rdoane@... writes: << Actually, these pointy teeth we have seem useless for ripping flesh. Good for chomping apples though. I think the difference in the digestive systems is more of a factor. >> the collective has assigned the name 'canine' to these pointy teeth that are shaped differently then the rest of our teeth. mine work well for meat as well as apples. actually i use my front two teeth for apples. and my canines for ripping, and my molars for grinding. of course the digestive system is a huge part of it as well. <<But if we see a neat package, labelled " medallion of beef " , injected with dye, wrapped in cellophane, destined to be roasted beyond recognition, slathered in sauces and spices>> organic meat looks very tasty to me. i never much cared for dyes in any food. oranges and grapefruits included. some sauces are tasty and healthful as well. <We are easily manipulated by our conditioning and preconceptions.>> amen -- you can say that again. and while you're at it... <<I'm talking about drinking the juice of several pounds of ripe produce. It gives me a rush and I love it!>> sounds like addiction to me. people with imbalanced chemistries often look for a rush to compensate for the imbalance. before i had my mercury fillings taken out i used to really enjoy smoking pot and getting high. then afterward as my chemistry started normalizing, i no longer enjoyed it. many vegetarians-- especially raw food vegetarians are imbalanced and don't realize it. they mistake feeling high after a meal for good nutrition. personally, i've never met a healthy vegetarian. sugar is one of the most addictive substances-- be careful if you are getting a rush from fruit juices. also, i have read that in the animal kingdom there really is no such thing as a vegetarian. herbivores in the wild consume insects and grubs that inhabit leaves. at the local farmer's market here in manhattan there is a guy named rynn berry- a scholar on vegetarianism and very interesting guy. he wrote a book called famous vegetarians with some fascinating stories in it. i got into a long discussion with him once about vegetarianism. we were both respectful, yet adamant about our opinions. i see him every few months now as i pass by. he looks sicker and sicker and sicker every time i see him. his face is gnarled and his teeth are rotting. his skin is blemished and pocked. i have grown stronger and healthier since our conversation a few years ago. the only possible defense of vegetarianism i can possible see at this point in my life is this: according to arnold ehret 'the mucousless healing system' (who incidentally i have heard through someone that knew him that he was an absolute loon) we need meat protein to rebuild damaged tissue. when there is no damaging or acid process going on, then i can see that vegetarianism might -- i say MIGHT -- be an option. i still have lots of internal damaging processes internally to deal with so i will reserve judgement until the day arises that i am clean inside. but then again, in today's day and age, there are so many pollutants in modern culture that i find it hard to imagine such a person who is running so clean inside and who was born from such a clean and healthy mother. i got sucked into vegetarianism in my early twenties byt the mistaken imopression that it would be more healthful . to quote you again... 'We are easily manipulated by our conditioning and preconceptions'. this period for me directly preceded the onset of my chronic fatigue. i was eating mainly carbs, veggies, and fruit. looking back-- my yeast problem grew totally out of hand during this period. i secrelty craved meat, but denied my appetite due to conditioning by television. also i used to work out religiously during this period, and never seemd to achieve the results i was looking for. now, after switching to mainy meats and fats with some fruits, veggies and carbs on the side, my musculature has naturally taken on the form i desire. i must admit though, that while on this diet i have detoxed tremendously-- passing worms and old crud from my colon that has been there since god knows how long. so interesting that people associate worms with meat, and the opposite has actually proven true for me. the carbs held the yeast in in place that harbored the worms. and after a while ont he meats and fats, the worms started to die off on their own. have put on a bit more weight than i like. i'm hoping to find the answer to that with saul's ozonator or by moving to get some fresh air or when ther detoxing finally ends. also- i am blood type O, indicated for red meat eating. according to peter d'adamo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 Dear Rex, Interesting post. According to dentition and intestinal anatomy, we are closest to the bear, which is an omnivore. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH Re: " tough " membranes > That's a good point. But, as I recall, carnivore digestive systems are more > acidic and very short in length and " transit time " -- I think the carnivore > just grabs the most readily available food value and the rest goes out the > exhaust pipe. If they need more nourishment, they just find some more > walking around ;-) > > I can't really offer proof that humans are born herbivores, but I would say > that plants are the best fuel source that we have readily. I juice much of > my plant food everyday to bypass the problem of plant cell membranes. This > gives a very high utilization of nutrients. I often feel a tremendous > energy rush after a meal, where I remember Standard American Diet meals left > me running at half speed. > > Raw tissue is definitely more nutritious than cooked, but... I find it hard > to understand why people will actually choose to eat livers, kidneys, legs, > arms, and butts than grapefruits, pears, almonds, olives, spinach, lettuce, > etc... > > I think a lot of it is conditioning. Why do we think cow milk is " good " but > pig milk, horse milk, or rodent milk are repugnant? Even the idea of a > grown person consuming human milk seems somehow bizarre. > > There is an energy cycle to life forms. The energy level in plants is > highest soon after sprouting, there is something of a peak when fruit ripens > and vegetation matures, then it slowly fades and decays. When an animal is > killed the energy level drops very quickly to just about zero then goes > negative as decay sets in. There may still be " nutritious " stuff in there, > but I think we live on energy not chemicals. > > Rex > > > > rdoane said: > > " But...animal cells are contained in tough membranes, so a lot of the > > food > > value just passes through. More is lost by the cooking process, " > > **************************************************************** > > > > Dear rd > > > > I have to disagree with you here. Muscle and organ cells of animals have > > much less " tough " membranes than plant cell membranes. If what you said > > were true, then all carnivores would be malnourished. My experience has > > been that RAW muscle and organ tissue is very easily digested and very > > nourishing. > > > > Cooking of any food, plant or animal source, causes much loss of food > > value. It also causes a " de-naturing " or detrimental changing of the > > substance that creates havoc in our bodies. > > > > Corny > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 > << I can't really offer proof that humans are born herbivores >> > > why do we still have canine teeth? > We don't - teeth are teeth, regardless of the labels that someone made up. My " canine " teeth sure don't look much like the vestigial fangs that my cat has! Actually, these pointy teeth we have seem useless for ripping flesh. Good for chomping apples though. I think the difference in the digestive systems is more of a factor. Another factor to consider -- if you watch a carnivore's reaction to seeing " food " on the hoof - they are transfixed, even twitching with anticipation. What is a human's reaction to seeing roadkill or even a freshly decapitated chicken? Hardly looks tasty. But if we see a neat package, labelled " medallion of beef " , injected with dye, wrapped in cellophane, destined to be roasted beyond recognition, slathered in sauces and spices - well then that must be real food. We are easily manipulated by our conditioning and preconceptions. I don't mean to preach. I would have no reservation about eating meat or even supermarket food if I had to, but when the free choice is there, I choose to use the best fuel that I find. And yes I do understand that different people in different situations have different requirements. > > not necessarily a good thing. what goes up must come down. in fact i have > read just the opposite, that a good meal is supposed to feel neutral. as my > chemistry balances i am very inclined to agree with that. Yes, that's true. A balanced meal does that. I'm talking about drinking the juice of several pounds of ripe produce. It gives me a rush and I love it! I don't notice a comedown. But more moderate doseages are always an option if one is so inclined! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 Not to sound hornery, but why does everyone seem to have difficulty understanding we are not beasts. Have you gotten an e-mail from any lions, tigers or bears lately? Just a thought... > >Dear Rex, > >Interesting post. > >According to dentition and intestinal anatomy, we are closest to >the bear, which is an omnivore. > >Best of Health! >Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH > > Re: " tough " membranes > > > > That's a good point. But, as I recall, carnivore digestive systems are >more > > acidic and very short in length and " transit time " -- I think the >carnivore > > just grabs the most readily available food value and the rest goes out >the > > exhaust pipe. If they need more nourishment, they just find some more > > walking around ;-) > > > > I can't really offer proof that humans are born herbivores, but I would >say > > that plants are the best fuel source that we have readily. I juice much >of > > my plant food everyday to bypass the problem of plant cell membranes. >This > > gives a very high utilization of nutrients. I often feel a tremendous > > energy rush after a meal, where I remember Standard American Diet meals >left > > me running at half speed. > > > > Raw tissue is definitely more nutritious than cooked, but... I find it >hard > > to understand why people will actually choose to eat livers, kidneys, >legs, > > arms, and butts than grapefruits, pears, almonds, olives, spinach, >lettuce, > > etc... > > > > I think a lot of it is conditioning. Why do we think cow milk is " good " >but > > pig milk, horse milk, or rodent milk are repugnant? Even the idea of a > > grown person consuming human milk seems somehow bizarre. > > > > There is an energy cycle to life forms. The energy level in plants is > > highest soon after sprouting, there is something of a peak when fruit >ripens > > and vegetation matures, then it slowly fades and decays. When an animal >is > > killed the energy level drops very quickly to just about zero then goes > > negative as decay sets in. There may still be " nutritious " stuff in >there, > > but I think we live on energy not chemicals. > > > > Rex > > > > > > > rdoane said: > > > " But...animal cells are contained in tough membranes, so a lot of the > > > food > > > value just passes through. More is lost by the cooking process, " > > > **************************************************************** > > > > > > Dear rd > > > > > > I have to disagree with you here. Muscle and organ cells of animals >have > > > much less " tough " membranes than plant cell membranes. If what you >said > > > were true, then all carnivores would be malnourished. My experience >has > > > been that RAW muscle and organ tissue is very easily digested and very > > > nourishing. > > > > > > Cooking of any food, plant or animal source, causes much loss of food > > > value. It also causes a " de-naturing " or detrimental changing of the > > > substance that creates havoc in our bodies. > > > > > > Corny > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and >other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here >are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing >information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at >your >own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability >to >take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to >hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found >here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher >or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following >address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of >the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal >mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 Well said!! > > > << I can't really offer proof that humans are born herbivores >> > > > > why do we still have canine teeth? > > > >We don't - teeth are teeth, regardless of the labels that someone made up. >My " canine " teeth sure don't look much like the vestigial fangs that my cat >has! > >Actually, these pointy teeth we have seem useless for ripping flesh. Good >for chomping apples though. I think the difference in the digestive >systems >is more of a factor. > >Another factor to consider -- if you watch a carnivore's reaction to seeing > " food " on the hoof - they are transfixed, even twitching with anticipation. >What is a human's reaction to seeing roadkill or even a freshly decapitated >chicken? Hardly looks tasty. But if we see a neat package, labelled > " medallion of beef " , injected with dye, wrapped in cellophane, destined to >be roasted beyond recognition, slathered in sauces and spices - well then >that must be real food. We are easily manipulated by our conditioning and >preconceptions. > >I don't mean to preach. I would have no reservation about eating meat or >even supermarket food if I had to, but when the free choice is there, I >choose to use the best fuel that I find. And yes I do understand that >different people in different situations have different requirements. > > > > > not necessarily a good thing. what goes up must come down. in fact i >have > > read just the opposite, that a good meal is supposed to feel neutral. as >my > > chemistry balances i am very inclined to agree with that. > >Yes, that's true. A balanced meal does that. I'm talking about drinking the >juice of several pounds of ripe produce. It gives me a rush and I love it! >I don't notice a comedown. But more moderate doseages are always an option >if one is so inclined! > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 You are correct Corny! " tough " membranes From: " rdoane " <rdoane@...> <oxyplus > rdoane said: " But...animal cells are contained in tough membranes, so a lot of the food value just passes through. More is lost by the cooking process, " **************************************************************** Dear rd I have to disagree with you here. Muscle and organ cells of animals have much less " tough " membranes than plant cell membranes. If what you said were true, then all carnivores would be malnourished. My experience has been that RAW muscle and organ tissue is very easily digested and very nourishing. Cooking of any food, plant or animal source, causes much loss of food value. It also causes a " de-naturing " or detrimental changing of the substance that creates havoc in our bodies. Corny ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2001 Report Share Posted April 25, 2001 No lions, tigers or bears lately, , but I have had a few from some pigs! On the other hand, I haven't received e-mail from any beets, carrots or brocolli either.. Terri <just joking .. it's late> > > > Not to sound hornery, but why does everyone seem to have difficulty > understanding we are not beasts. Have you gotten an e-mail from any lions, > tigers or bears lately? Just a thought... > > > > > > > >Dear Rex, > > > >Interesting post. > > > >According to dentition and intestinal anatomy, we are closest to > >the bear, which is an omnivore. > > > >Best of Health! > >Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH > > > > Re: " tough " membranes > > > > > > > That's a good point. But, as I recall, carnivore digestive systems are > >more > > > acidic and very short in length and " transit time " -- I think the > >carnivore > > > just grabs the most readily available food value and the rest goes out > >the > > > exhaust pipe. If they need more nourishment, they just find some more > > > walking around ;-) > > > > > > I can't really offer proof that humans are born herbivores, but I would > >say > > > that plants are the best fuel source that we have readily. I juice much > >of > > > my plant food everyday to bypass the problem of plant cell membranes. > >This > > > gives a very high utilization of nutrients. I often feel a tremendous > > > energy rush after a meal, where I remember Standard American Diet meals > >left > > > me running at half speed. > > > > > > Raw tissue is definitely more nutritious than cooked, but... I find it > >hard > > > to understand why people will actually choose to eat livers, kidneys, > >legs, > > > arms, and butts than grapefruits, pears, almonds, olives, spinach, > >lettuce, > > > etc... > > > > > > I think a lot of it is conditioning. Why do we think cow milk is " good " > >but > > > pig milk, horse milk, or rodent milk are repugnant? Even the idea of a > > > grown person consuming human milk seems somehow bizarre. > > > > > > There is an energy cycle to life forms. The energy level in plants is > > > highest soon after sprouting, there is something of a peak when fruit > >ripens > > > and vegetation matures, then it slowly fades and decays. When an animal > >is > > > killed the energy level drops very quickly to just about zero then goes > > > negative as decay sets in. There may still be " nutritious " stuff in > >there, > > > but I think we live on energy not chemicals. > > > > > > Rex > > > > > > > > > > rdoane said: > > > > " But...animal cells are contained in tough membranes, so a lot of the > > > > food > > > > value just passes through. More is lost by the cooking process, " > > > > **************************************************************** > > > > > > > > Dear rd > > > > > > > > I have to disagree with you here. Muscle and organ cells of animals > >have > > > > much less " tough " membranes than plant cell membranes. If what you > >said > > > > were true, then all carnivores would be malnourished. My experience > >has > > > > been that RAW muscle and organ tissue is very easily digested and very > > > > nourishing. > > > > > > > > Cooking of any food, plant or animal source, causes much loss of food > > > > value. It also causes a " de-naturing " or detrimental changing of the > > > > substance that creates havoc in our bodies. > > > > > > > > Corny > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > >other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > >are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > >information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at > >your > >own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability > >to > >take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > >hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > >here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > >or health care provider. > > > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > >address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > >the message! : > > > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal > >mode. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 Touche'!!! I like that. I'll give you the number of some fruitcakes I know if you like. > >No lions, tigers or bears lately, , but I have had a few from >some pigs! > >On the other hand, I haven't received e-mail from any beets, carrots >or brocolli either.. > >Terri <just joking .. it's late> > > > > > > > > Not to sound hornery, but why does everyone seem to have difficulty > > understanding we are not beasts. Have you gotten an e-mail from any >lions, > > tigers or bears lately? Just a thought... > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Rex, > > > > > >Interesting post. > > > > > >According to dentition and intestinal anatomy, we are closest to > > >the bear, which is an omnivore. > > > > > >Best of Health! > > >Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH > > > > > > Re: " tough " membranes > > > > > > > > > > That's a good point. But, as I recall, carnivore digestive >systems are > > >more > > > > acidic and very short in length and " transit time " -- I think >the > > >carnivore > > > > just grabs the most readily available food value and the rest >goes out > > >the > > > > exhaust pipe. If they need more nourishment, they just find >some more > > > > walking around ;-) > > > > > > > > I can't really offer proof that humans are born herbivores, but >I would > > >say > > > > that plants are the best fuel source that we have readily. I >juice much > > >of > > > > my plant food everyday to bypass the problem of plant cell >membranes. > > >This > > > > gives a very high utilization of nutrients. I often feel a >tremendous > > > > energy rush after a meal, where I remember Standard American >Diet meals > > >left > > > > me running at half speed. > > > > > > > > Raw tissue is definitely more nutritious than cooked, but... I >find it > > >hard > > > > to understand why people will actually choose to eat livers, >kidneys, > > >legs, > > > > arms, and butts than grapefruits, pears, almonds, olives, >spinach, > > >lettuce, > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > I think a lot of it is conditioning. Why do we think cow milk >is " good " > > >but > > > > pig milk, horse milk, or rodent milk are repugnant? Even the >idea of a > > > > grown person consuming human milk seems somehow bizarre. > > > > > > > > There is an energy cycle to life forms. The energy level in >plants is > > > > highest soon after sprouting, there is something of a peak when >fruit > > >ripens > > > > and vegetation matures, then it slowly fades and decays. When >an animal > > >is > > > > killed the energy level drops very quickly to just about zero >then goes > > > > negative as decay sets in. There may still be " nutritious " >stuff in > > >there, > > > > but I think we live on energy not chemicals. > > > > > > > > Rex > > > > > > > > > > > > > rdoane said: > > > > > " But...animal cells are contained in tough membranes, so a >lot of the > > > > > food > > > > > value just passes through. More is lost by the cooking >process, " > > > > > >**************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > > Dear rd > > > > > > > > > > I have to disagree with you here. Muscle and organ cells of >animals > > >have > > > > > much less " tough " membranes than plant cell membranes. If >what you > > >said > > > > > were true, then all carnivores would be malnourished. My >experience > > >has > > > > > been that RAW muscle and organ tissue is very easily digested >and very > > > > > nourishing. > > > > > > > > > > Cooking of any food, plant or animal source, causes much loss >of food > > > > > value. It also causes a " de-naturing " or detrimental >changing of the > > > > > substance that creates havoc in our bodies. > > > > > > > > > > Corny > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative >therapies, and > > >other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will >find here > > >are for information and research purposes only. We are people >sharing > > >information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do >so at > > >your > > >own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the >ability > > >to > > >take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you >agree to > > >hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any >ideas found > > >here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a >researcher > > >or health care provider. > > > > > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the >following > > >address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE >or BODY of > > >the message! : > > > > > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to >normal > > >mode. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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