Guest guest Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 > Hello Everyone - > > My name is Danyel... my friends call me Dany. I have been reading > everyone's postings for awhile...kinda feels like eavesdropping > but this is the first time I have posted. > > To introduce myself I am 26 years old and residing in Springfield > Missouri. My husband and I started BFL last summer, but only made > it about a month in. Actually, he lasted longer than I did. I got > really discourage because I was gaining weight, not loosing. I > didn't count calories, I just guestimated portion size with the palm > of my hand. Hi Dany! Welcome to the group > > Anyhow, we began the challenge again on November 3rd. This time I > figured out that my daily caloric intake should be 1100 calories > which equals 18 grams of protein a meal, 18 grams of carbs a meal > and 3 grams of fat. I was really excited because I thought the > reason the program didn't work for me the first time is because I > was eating too much. So, I have been planning my meals based on > this info and I add a veggie to at least two of my meals. Does this > sound right? How did you determine that this should be what you are taking in for calories? > > So, here is my question. For my 18g of carbs I was counting > anything...yogurt, a slice of bread, a zone bar, as long as it had > less than 18g. But, from reading the postings it sounds like I am > missing something. There are certain carbs you should eat and one's > you should stay away from? Are you guys counting your veggies as > your serving of carbs? I know that -for me- starchy carbs don't work. They do not help me lose bodyfat but actually help me maintain. This obviously isn't the " BFL " way and some might disagree with me but it is something to consider. Basically even though my non fibrous carb intake was moderate, it seemed to be still too much for my body. In general I also stay away from foods with a high glycemic index for most of the day except post-workout. > We have completed two weeks and I am afraid I am starting down the > same path as last time. My hubby has already lost 6 lbs. and I have > gained one. (My current weight is 135 and I would like to get down > to 120...I am not very tall 5'3 " ) Here's some advice throw out your scale If you have been doing the weight workouts, you are also likely gaining some muscle which weighs more than fat. Go by your measurements instead and how your clothes fit. Make sure you are also drinking a lot of water Also, women in general will never lose as fast as men or gain as much muscle as men in the same amount of time. > > Anyhow, I am frustrated. I have put a lot of planning, energy and > time into this program and I am not seeing results. I am following > the diet and exercise guidelines exactly. Am I expecting to see a > change too fast? Sometimes I wonder if for whatever reason this > program just isn't for me? November 3rd is still very early. I would give it at -least- 4 weeks because by then you can usually see 'a' difference in measurements. I would seriously look at giving it a few more weeks and if by then you believe you are truly not losing the bodyfat and possibly gaining more muscle you might want to look at changing the carbs that you do eat. I don't mean to confuse you at all but I know that many on this boards told me to eat my carbs(potatoes, rice, pasta) and it got me nowhere fast :/ But again, give this at least 4 weeks if not longer. I made my own modifications to my eating plan after my first challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Hi Dany, Welcome! I listen a lot more than I post, but I wanted to send you a quick message... Check out this link, I think it will help explain some of the frustration you are going through once you get a month into the program: http://skwigg.tripod.com/wow/id40.html Also, take a look around the site, there is some absolutely wonderful information here, including meal ideas, grocery lists, inspiration and stuff that will make you laugh :~) Good luck, hope to hear more from you! Paige > Hello Everyone - > > My name is Danyel... my friends call me Dany. I have been reading > everyone's postings for awhile...kinda feels like eavesdropping > but this is the first time I have posted. > > To introduce myself I am 26 years old and residing in Springfield > Missouri. My husband and I started BFL last summer, but only made > it about a month in. Actually, he lasted longer than I did. I got > really discourage because I was gaining weight, not loosing. I > didn't count calories, I just guestimated portion size with the palm > of my hand. > > Anyhow, we began the challenge again on November 3rd. This time I > figured out that my daily caloric intake should be 1100 calories > which equals 18 grams of protein a meal, 18 grams of carbs a meal > and 3 grams of fat. I was really excited because I thought the > reason the program didn't work for me the first time is because I > was eating too much. So, I have been planning my meals based on > this info and I add a veggie to at least two of my meals. Does this > sound right? > > So, here is my question. For my 18g of carbs I was counting > anything...yogurt, a slice of bread, a zone bar, as long as it had > less than 18g. But, from reading the postings it sounds like I am > missing something. There are certain carbs you should eat and one's > you should stay away from? Are you guys counting your veggies as > your serving of carbs? > > We have completed two weeks and I am afraid I am starting down the > same path as last time. My hubby has already lost 6 lbs. and I have > gained one. (My current weight is 135 and I would like to get down > to 120...I am not very tall 5'3 " ) > > Anyhow, I am frustrated. I have put a lot of planning, energy and > time into this program and I am not seeing results. I am following > the diet and exercise guidelines exactly. Am I expecting to see a > change too fast? Sometimes I wonder if for whatever reason this > program just isn't for me? > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Dany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Hi Dany, Welcome to the group! First of all, never ever ever compare your results to your husband's. Men are mutant freaks when it comes to weight loss. They're loaded with testosterone (a muscle building hormone) and we're loaded with estrogen (a fat storage hormone). So, we have to work harder to lose weight and it's going to take us longer. Don't fall into the trap of judging your results by the scale. Go by the tape measure and your percentage of body fat. It's entirely possible to get smaller and heavier as you gain new muscle. Check out the comparison picture http://skwigg.tripod.com/fat_and_muscle.jpg . Muscle is compact and dense. That's why you may weigh more at first. It doesn't mean that you're doing something wrong or not losing any fat. Eventually, the fat loss will outpace the new muscle gain and the scale will start to drop. Check out this Hussman article: You Really Do Change From the Inside Out http://hussman.org/fitness/#inside Your calories sound pretty low. How do you feel? Based on your height, weight and age, your calories should be in the 1100-1450 range for maximum fat loss. You should be training *really* intensely, so go up to the higher end of the range if you start feeling hungry or weak. Cutting the cals too low all week can backfire, making it more tempting to cheat and spinning your free days out of control. What are your free days like? It's not easy, but it is possible to undo most of your calorie deficit if you're really going nuts on free days. If you're results aren't what you want, free day is the first thing to check out, followed by portion sizes, followed by carb choices. Really carb-dense vegetables like potatoes, squash, and corn are considered carbs and count as part of your carb portion. Low calorie, low-carb veggies like spinach, tomato, broccoli, and mushrooms are eat-all-you-want. Take another look at the authorized food list to see which is which. In the beginning, the closer you stick to the list the safer you'll be with your fat loss. Watch out for too much bread and too many sugary bars. Also, you have your 18g of carbs and 18g of protein, but you didn't say anything about fat. Make sure you don't cut yourself short there. Healthy fat in the diet stabilizes blood sugar, reduces cravings, and improves fat loss. It doesn't have to be much, but small portions of healthy fats like avocado, almonds, olive oil, or fatty fish like salmon can really help out. Lots of us also take a tablespoon of flax oil a day. Oops, wrote a novel. You asked some good questions though. To eat or not to eat?!? Hello Everyone - My name is Danyel... my friends call me Dany. I have been reading everyone's postings for awhile...kinda feels like eavesdropping but this is the first time I have posted. To introduce myself I am 26 years old and residing in Springfield Missouri. My husband and I started BFL last summer, but only made it about a month in. Actually, he lasted longer than I did. I got really discourage because I was gaining weight, not loosing. I didn't count calories, I just guestimated portion size with the palm of my hand. Anyhow, we began the challenge again on November 3rd. This time I figured out that my daily caloric intake should be 1100 calories which equals 18 grams of protein a meal, 18 grams of carbs a meal and 3 grams of fat. I was really excited because I thought the reason the program didn't work for me the first time is because I was eating too much. So, I have been planning my meals based on this info and I add a veggie to at least two of my meals. Does this sound right? So, here is my question. For my 18g of carbs I was counting anything...yogurt, a slice of bread, a zone bar, as long as it had less than 18g. But, from reading the postings it sounds like I am missing something. There are certain carbs you should eat and one's you should stay away from? Are you guys counting your veggies as your serving of carbs? We have completed two weeks and I am afraid I am starting down the same path as last time. My hubby has already lost 6 lbs. and I have gained one. (My current weight is 135 and I would like to get down to 120...I am not very tall 5'3 " ) Anyhow, I am frustrated. I have put a lot of planning, energy and time into this program and I am not seeing results. I am following the diet and exercise guidelines exactly. Am I expecting to see a change too fast? Sometimes I wonder if for whatever reason this program just isn't for me? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Dany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Welcome! Others have posted some great advice so I'll try not to duplicate. The one thing I would mention is that there is a page specifically in the BFL book (81 or 86??) that lists acceptable protein and carbs and fat. Some examples of carbs: oatmeal lentils beans potatoes fruit corn WW bread WW pasta I believe yogurt is listed also So not all carbs are equal. Veggies are not considered carbs except for things like corn that are starchy. So don't count your veggie towards your carb counts. Zone Bars are iffy because they contain a high amount of sugar. Not horrible but not great either. I'd go for a Detour or Odyssey or low carb bar instead if you enjoy eating bars. Colleen > > To eat or not to eat?!? > > > Hello Everyone - > > My name is Danyel... my friends call me Dany. I have been reading > everyone's postings for awhile...kinda feels like eavesdropping > but this is the first time I have posted. > > To introduce myself I am 26 years old and residing in Springfield > Missouri. My husband and I started BFL last summer, but only made > it about a month in. Actually, he lasted longer than I did. I got > really discourage because I was gaining weight, not loosing. I > didn't count calories, I just guestimated portion size with the palm > of my hand. > > Anyhow, we began the challenge again on November 3rd. This time I > figured out that my daily caloric intake should be 1100 calories > which equals 18 grams of protein a meal, 18 grams of carbs a meal > and 3 grams of fat. I was really excited because I thought the > reason the program didn't work for me the first time is because I > was eating too much. So, I have been planning my meals based on > this info and I add a veggie to at least two of my meals. Does this > sound right? > > So, here is my question. For my 18g of carbs I was counting > anything...yogurt, a slice of bread, a zone bar, as long as it had > less than 18g. But, from reading the postings it sounds like I am > missing something. There are certain carbs you should eat and one's > you should stay away from? Are you guys counting your veggies as > your serving of carbs? > > We have completed two weeks and I am afraid I am starting down the > same path as last time. My hubby has already lost 6 lbs. and I have > gained one. (My current weight is 135 and I would like to get down > to 120...I am not very tall 5'3 " ) > > Anyhow, I am frustrated. I have put a lot of planning, energy and > time into this program and I am not seeing results. I am following > the diet and exercise guidelines exactly. Am I expecting to see a > change too fast? Sometimes I wonder if for whatever reason this > program just isn't for me? > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Dany > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 And don't forget sweet potatoes or yams. It wouldn't seem so, but they are low on the glycemic index and quite virtuous in my opinion, and are great to use as your carb in addition to a green veggie and a protein. I wish you the best. Stasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Hi Eve - thanks for responding. I determined my caloric intake by multiply my body weight by eight. Then I rounded up to 1100 calories a day. Thanks for the advice about starchy carbs. And I haven't taken measurements - I have just been watching the scale. I'll try the measurement route and see if that gives me some positive reinforcement. Thanks again for your encouragement! Dany > > Hello Everyone - > > > > My name is Danyel... my friends call me Dany. I have been reading > > everyone's postings for awhile...kinda feels like eavesdropping > > but this is the first time I have posted. > > > > To introduce myself I am 26 years old and residing in Springfield > > Missouri. My husband and I started BFL last summer, but only made > > it about a month in. Actually, he lasted longer than I did. I got > > really discourage because I was gaining weight, not loosing. I > > didn't count calories, I just guestimated portion size with the palm > > of my hand. > > Hi Dany! Welcome to the group > > > > > Anyhow, we began the challenge again on November 3rd. This time I > > figured out that my daily caloric intake should be 1100 calories > > which equals 18 grams of protein a meal, 18 grams of carbs a meal > > and 3 grams of fat. I was really excited because I thought the > > reason the program didn't work for me the first time is because I > > was eating too much. So, I have been planning my meals based on > > this info and I add a veggie to at least two of my meals. Does this > > sound right? > > How did you determine that this should be what you are taking in for > calories? > > > > > > > So, here is my question. For my 18g of carbs I was counting > > anything...yogurt, a slice of bread, a zone bar, as long as it had > > less than 18g. But, from reading the postings it sounds like I am > > missing something. There are certain carbs you should eat and one's > > you should stay away from? Are you guys counting your veggies as > > your serving of carbs? > > I know that -for me- starchy carbs don't work. They do not help me > lose bodyfat but actually help me maintain. This obviously isn't the > " BFL " way and some might disagree with me but it is something to > consider. Basically even though my non fibrous carb intake was > moderate, it seemed to be still too much for my body. In general I > also stay away from foods with a high glycemic index for most of the > day except post-workout. > > > > We have completed two weeks and I am afraid I am starting down the > > same path as last time. My hubby has already lost 6 lbs. and I have > > gained one. (My current weight is 135 and I would like to get down > > to 120...I am not very tall 5'3 " ) > > Here's some advice > > throw out your scale If you have been doing the weight workouts, > you are also likely gaining some muscle which weighs more than fat. Go > by your measurements instead and how your clothes fit. Make sure you > are also drinking a lot of water > > Also, women in general will never lose as fast as men or gain as much > muscle as men in the same amount of time. > > > > > Anyhow, I am frustrated. I have put a lot of planning, energy and > > time into this program and I am not seeing results. I am following > > the diet and exercise guidelines exactly. Am I expecting to see a > > change too fast? Sometimes I wonder if for whatever reason this > > program just isn't for me? > > November 3rd is still very early. I would give it at -least- 4 weeks > because by then you can usually see 'a' difference in measurements. > > I would seriously look at giving it a few more weeks and if by then > you believe you are truly not losing the bodyfat and possibly gaining > more muscle you might want to look at changing the carbs that you do > eat. > > I don't mean to confuse you at all but I know that many on this boards > told me to eat my carbs(potatoes, rice, pasta) and it got me nowhere > fast :/ > > But again, give this at least 4 weeks if not longer. I made my own > modifications to my eating plan after my first challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Hey Paige - Thanks for the great link. That article was so good. It described exactly how I feel. I am really excited to go home and measure myself! It is encouraging to know that other gals have felt the same way I do... at least I know I am not totally screwing the program up! Dany > > Hello Everyone - > > > > My name is Danyel... my friends call me Dany. I have been reading > > everyone's postings for awhile...kinda feels like eavesdropping > > but this is the first time I have posted. > > > > To introduce myself I am 26 years old and residing in Springfield > > Missouri. My husband and I started BFL last summer, but only made > > it about a month in. Actually, he lasted longer than I did. I > got > > really discourage because I was gaining weight, not loosing. I > > didn't count calories, I just guestimated portion size with the > palm > > of my hand. > > > > Anyhow, we began the challenge again on November 3rd. This time I > > figured out that my daily caloric intake should be 1100 calories > > which equals 18 grams of protein a meal, 18 grams of carbs a meal > > and 3 grams of fat. I was really excited because I thought the > > reason the program didn't work for me the first time is because I > > was eating too much. So, I have been planning my meals based on > > this info and I add a veggie to at least two of my meals. Does > this > > sound right? > > > > So, here is my question. For my 18g of carbs I was counting > > anything...yogurt, a slice of bread, a zone bar, as long as it had > > less than 18g. But, from reading the postings it sounds like I am > > missing something. There are certain carbs you should eat and > one's > > you should stay away from? Are you guys counting your veggies as > > your serving of carbs? > > > > We have completed two weeks and I am afraid I am starting down the > > same path as last time. My hubby has already lost 6 lbs. and I > have > > gained one. (My current weight is 135 and I would like to get down > > to 120...I am not very tall 5'3 " ) > > > > Anyhow, I am frustrated. I have put a lot of planning, energy and > > time into this program and I am not seeing results. I am > following > > the diet and exercise guidelines exactly. Am I expecting to see a > > change too fast? Sometimes I wonder if for whatever reason this > > program just isn't for me? > > > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Dany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 - Thanks for the reply. You gave me lots of good tips. I especially liked the tip about how men are mutant freaks and I shouldn't compare myself to my hubby. I think that is a big part of my problem. About training really intensely - I though I was. But, I just read the posting on your web-site entitled " Pain and Cyborgs " . Maybe I am not really pushing myself as hard as I think I am. I am going to work even harder in tonight's upper body workout. Also, your advice on which veggies to count as carbs was very helpful. I was confused on that area. The info is probably in the BFL book and I just skimmed over it... I'm not much on reading directions... I do keep track of my fat. I am allowed 3g per meal. But, I have only been concerned about going over, not about consuming a certain amount. I do eat a lot of Salmon - so I think I am O.K. there. What is the difference between Omega-3 fish oil pills and flax seed oil? I take the pills. Did you write the " Four Month Freak Out " article? That was really reassuring also. Thanks Again! Dany > Hi Dany, > > Welcome to the group! First of all, never ever ever compare your results to your husband's. Men are mutant freaks when it comes to weight loss. They're loaded with testosterone (a muscle building hormone) and we're loaded with estrogen (a fat storage hormone). So, we have to work harder to lose weight and it's going to take us longer. > > Don't fall into the trap of judging your results by the scale. Go by the tape measure and your percentage of body fat. It's entirely possible to get smaller and heavier as you gain new muscle. Check out the comparison picture http://skwigg.tripod.com/fat_and_muscle.jpg . Muscle is compact and dense. That's why you may weigh more at first. It doesn't mean that you're doing something wrong or not losing any fat. Eventually, the fat loss will outpace the new muscle gain and the scale will start to drop. Check out this Hussman article: > > You Really Do Change From the Inside Out > http://hussman.org/fitness/#inside > > Your calories sound pretty low. How do you feel? Based on your height, weight and age, your calories should be in the 1100-1450 range for maximum fat loss. You should be training *really* intensely, so go up to the higher end of the range if you start feeling hungry or weak. > > Cutting the cals too low all week can backfire, making it more tempting to cheat and spinning your free days out of control. What are your free days like? It's not easy, but it is possible to undo most of your calorie deficit if you're really going nuts on free days. If you're results aren't what you want, free day is the first thing to check out, followed by portion sizes, followed by carb choices. > > Really carb-dense vegetables like potatoes, squash, and corn are considered carbs and count as part of your carb portion. Low calorie, low-carb veggies like spinach, tomato, broccoli, and mushrooms are eat-all-you-want. Take another look at the authorized food list to see which is which. In the beginning, the closer you stick to the list the safer you'll be with your fat loss. Watch out for too much bread and too many sugary bars. > > Also, you have your 18g of carbs and 18g of protein, but you didn't say anything about fat. Make sure you don't cut yourself short there. Healthy fat in the diet stabilizes blood sugar, reduces cravings, and improves fat loss. It doesn't have to be much, but small portions of healthy fats like avocado, almonds, olive oil, or fatty fish like salmon can really help out. Lots of us also take a tablespoon of flax oil a day. > > Oops, wrote a novel. You asked some good questions though. > > > > To eat or not to eat?!? > > > Hello Everyone - > > My name is Danyel... my friends call me Dany. I have been reading > everyone's postings for awhile...kinda feels like eavesdropping > but this is the first time I have posted. > > To introduce myself I am 26 years old and residing in Springfield > Missouri. My husband and I started BFL last summer, but only made > it about a month in. Actually, he lasted longer than I did. I got > really discourage because I was gaining weight, not loosing. I > didn't count calories, I just guestimated portion size with the palm > of my hand. > > Anyhow, we began the challenge again on November 3rd. This time I > figured out that my daily caloric intake should be 1100 calories > which equals 18 grams of protein a meal, 18 grams of carbs a meal > and 3 grams of fat. I was really excited because I thought the > reason the program didn't work for me the first time is because I > was eating too much. So, I have been planning my meals based on > this info and I add a veggie to at least two of my meals. Does this > sound right? > > So, here is my question. For my 18g of carbs I was counting > anything...yogurt, a slice of bread, a zone bar, as long as it had > less than 18g. But, from reading the postings it sounds like I am > missing something. There are certain carbs you should eat and one's > you should stay away from? Are you guys counting your veggies as > your serving of carbs? > > We have completed two weeks and I am afraid I am starting down the > same path as last time. My hubby has already lost 6 lbs. and I have > gained one. (My current weight is 135 and I would like to get down > to 120...I am not very tall 5'3 " ) > > Anyhow, I am frustrated. I have put a lot of planning, energy and > time into this program and I am not seeing results. I am following > the diet and exercise guidelines exactly. Am I expecting to see a > change too fast? Sometimes I wonder if for whatever reason this > program just isn't for me? > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Dany > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 Thanks Colleen - I think I need to look over that list again. I had forgotten corn was a carb. What about frozen veggie mixtures that have corn, green beans and carrots? That would probably count as a carb too, huh? Dany > Welcome! Others have posted some great advice so I'll try not to > duplicate. The one thing I would mention is that there is a page > specifically in the BFL book (81 or 86??) that lists acceptable > protein and carbs and fat. > > Some examples of carbs: > oatmeal > lentils > beans > potatoes > fruit > corn > WW bread > WW pasta > I believe yogurt is listed also > > So not all carbs are equal. Veggies are not considered carbs except > for things like corn that are starchy. So don't count your veggie > towards your carb counts. Zone Bars are iffy because they contain a > high amount of sugar. Not horrible but not great either. I'd go for a > Detour or Odyssey or low carb bar instead if you enjoy eating bars. > > Colleen > > > > > > To eat or not to eat?!? > > > > > > Hello Everyone - > > > > My name is Danyel... my friends call me Dany. I have been > reading > > everyone's postings for awhile...kinda feels like > eavesdropping > > but this is the first time I have posted. > > > > To introduce myself I am 26 years old and residing in Springfield > > Missouri. My husband and I started BFL last summer, but only > made > > it about a month in. Actually, he lasted longer than I did. I > got > > really discourage because I was gaining weight, not loosing. I > > didn't count calories, I just guestimated portion size with the > palm > > of my hand. > > > > Anyhow, we began the challenge again on November 3rd. This time > I > > figured out that my daily caloric intake should be 1100 calories > > which equals 18 grams of protein a meal, 18 grams of carbs a meal > > and 3 grams of fat. I was really excited because I thought the > > reason the program didn't work for me the first time is because I > > was eating too much. So, I have been planning my meals based on > > this info and I add a veggie to at least two of my meals. Does > this > > sound right? > > > > So, here is my question. For my 18g of carbs I was counting > > anything...yogurt, a slice of bread, a zone bar, as long as it > had > > less than 18g. But, from reading the postings it sounds like I > am > > missing something. There are certain carbs you should eat and > one's > > you should stay away from? Are you guys counting your veggies as > > your serving of carbs? > > > > We have completed two weeks and I am afraid I am starting down > the > > same path as last time. My hubby has already lost 6 lbs. and I > have > > gained one. (My current weight is 135 and I would like to get > down > > to 120...I am not very tall 5'3 " ) > > > > Anyhow, I am frustrated. I have put a lot of planning, energy > and > > time into this program and I am not seeing results. I am > following > > the diet and exercise guidelines exactly. Am I expecting to see > a > > change too fast? Sometimes I wonder if for whatever reason this > > program just isn't for me? > > > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Dany > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 > Thanks Colleen - > > I think I need to look over that list again. I had forgotten corn > was a carb. What about frozen veggie mixtures that have corn, green > beans and carrots? That would probably count as a carb too, huh? > > Dany I don't eat carrots but I believe they are actually listed as a veggie and not a carb. So I'd count them as half and half. So if 1 cup was 20 grams of carbs, I'd probably count it as 10...just to make things even trickier Colleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 In a message dated 11/12/2003 3:42:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, s_bachrach@... writes: > And don't forget sweet potatoes or yams. It wouldn't seem so, but > they are low on the glycemic index and they taste great with some fake sugar and cinnamon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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