Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 I have a question relating to testing out what works in regards to tweaking food.... How long do you long-timers try out a different eating routine to see if it does anything? Like the flax seed oil...would it take a week to actually be able to tell if it's having any effect? Or changing the order or types of carbs... Just how long (minimum) should a person wait to see what type of effect it's having, either none, positive or negative? Thanks in WI Re: Stasia and jessica > You know, and this is just a personal thing...I don't think it is > going to make a great deal of difference. I would do either...and I > would also get in the habit of some flax seed oil in the shake or in > some other meal... > > If everything else is right (meals, water, work out to intensity, > cardio to intensity, sleep, free meal) I think you would be able to > do either. > > Stasia and others may feel differently but in my efforts, the extra > few grams of carbs in the shake didn't change anything...in fact, my > last meal for awhile was a cup of low fat cottage cheese and a green > apple religiously. Didn't effect anything...lost body fat...even > with eating a whole pizza on a Free Day (and I am not advocating > that, by the way!) > > Good luck...just be consistant. > > > > > > > Do you think it would be okay if i cut back on my carbs at just one > > meal before bed? I usually drink a myoplex lite shake which has > about > > 18g of carbs and 190 cals and i was plannaing on switching to > Myoplex > > Carb sense which has 5 g of carbs and 150 cals. What do you think? > > Just that one meal nothing else. And i will still be gettin a > calorie > > deficit and be eating good carbs at all my other meals. I also dont > > eat anything white.. it just feels wrong lol. Thanks again guys! > > Lindsey > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 You know, and this is just a personal thing...I don't think it is going to make a great deal of difference. I would do either...and I would also get in the habit of some flax seed oil in the shake or in some other meal... If everything else is right (meals, water, work out to intensity, cardio to intensity, sleep, free meal) I think you would be able to do either. Stasia and others may feel differently but in my efforts, the extra few grams of carbs in the shake didn't change anything...in fact, my last meal for awhile was a cup of low fat cottage cheese and a green apple religiously. Didn't effect anything...lost body fat...even with eating a whole pizza on a Free Day (and I am not advocating that, by the way!) Good luck...just be consistant. > Do you think it would be okay if i cut back on my carbs at just one > meal before bed? I usually drink a myoplex lite shake which has about > 18g of carbs and 190 cals and i was plannaing on switching to Myoplex > Carb sense which has 5 g of carbs and 150 cals. What do you think? > Just that one meal nothing else. And i will still be gettin a calorie > deficit and be eating good carbs at all my other meals. I also dont > eat anything white.. it just feels wrong lol. Thanks again guys! > Lindsey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Hi , I will let Stasia answer the bulk of this as she is the pro here...but as far as flax seed oil...even if I didn't see a change, I would still do it. It is so good for you and even if it doesn't visably change anything for you in the fat loss department...it is wonderful to the body. I saw a mild change with the flax seed oil. It did make my coat nice and shiny though Really, my hair and skin changed... As far as the changing or tweaking...that is such a hard thing to measure. I think I did my first Challenge pretty close to the way it should be...and I reaped the best results. And granted, I cheated amnd missed alot of work outs and ate like a animal on free days. It seemed when I tweaked more, it didn't do much. In fact, the stricter I got, the less body fat left the body. Go figure. I am very happy with my usual 1.7 pounds a week. I didn't have that when I tweaked...I must have over tweaked and my body wasn't getting enough or too much. The BFL system works as suggested. Looking back, I would do the full 12 weeks as stated...no tweaking. Then assess. If you tweak too much, you lose your mind as you will never know what worked, what didn't. I think that the body has it's own pattern and time schedule...try BFL the way it is presented and then see what you may want to do diferently. And keep in mind, I saw most of my results at week 10. I almost gave up and then overnight it seemd I dropped two pants sizes. Where are you now on your Challenge? What are you thinking about tweaking? That may help in responses here... > > > Do you think it would be okay if i cut back on my carbs at just one > > > meal before bed? I usually drink a myoplex lite shake which has > > about > > > 18g of carbs and 190 cals and i was plannaing on switching to > > Myoplex > > > Carb sense which has 5 g of carbs and 150 cals. What do you think? > > > Just that one meal nothing else. And i will still be gettin a > > calorie > > > deficit and be eating good carbs at all my other meals. I also dont > > > eat anything white.. it just feels wrong lol. Thanks again guys! > > > Lindsey > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Hey - I completed one 12-week challenge from July to September of this year and I actually reaped the majority of the benefits in the first 6 weeks. My lowest recorded weight and body fat % were 151lbs and 18% body fat. At that point I got " satisfied " and pretty much slacked in the eating area - a sweet here and there, maybe not six meals/day. I seem to have my weakest moments in the afternoon and evenings. I didn't really start gaining anything back until recently, when I put my lower back into spasm and could hardly move. I didn't eat clean at all, and of course couldn't exercise. I'm just now getting back into the exercising (after about 4 weeks), which I think will make a big difference in how " puffy " I feel. I'm one of those people who is going to get back into the full swing of it after Christmas - I don't want to completely stress myself out by feeling deprived. We'll be travelling down South for Christmas (leaving tomorrow actually) and there is absolutely no way I'm going to be able to eat clean while I'm there. I will do my best and not totally hog out, but man - my mother-in-law is making peanut-butter balls! My all-time favorite! But I am going to bring some AdvantEdge Carb Control bars and I'll try to get to Walmart and buy a tub of protein powder to use as quick protein fixes while I'm there. I'll have to report back in when I'm eating 100% clean (which I've never done - even in the beginning when I lost the most) and hitting my 10's more often. I get paranoid about muscle soreness because I have 2 kids at home with me and it's hard to deal with them when it's hard to move! I had a goal earlier when I started a second challenge, but I lost my " oopmf " and then got hurt. So my goal for myself to reach by the time it gets warm again (around May or June) is to get to 15% body fat and 150 lbs or less. Last time I got it checked it was around 20%, now it's probably more like 22-24%. So thanks for your response, and make sure you keep active on the board for when I get back into the eating part full-swing. Hopefully Santa will bring me the new Eating for Life book to give me some more ideas on how to make meals a little more exciting. Re: Stasia and jessica > Hi , > > I will let Stasia answer the bulk of this as she is the pro > here...but as far as flax seed oil...even if I didn't see a change, I > would still do it. It is so good for you and even if it doesn't > visably change anything for you in the fat loss department...it is > wonderful to the body. > > I saw a mild change with the flax seed oil. It did make my coat nice > and shiny though Really, my hair and skin changed... > > As far as the changing or tweaking...that is such a hard thing to > measure. I think I did my first Challenge pretty close to the way it > should be...and I reaped the best results. And granted, I cheated > amnd missed alot of work outs and ate like a animal on free days. It > seemed when I tweaked more, it didn't do much. In fact, the stricter > I got, the less body fat left the body. Go figure. > > I am very happy with my usual 1.7 pounds a week. I didn't have that > when I tweaked...I must have over tweaked and my body wasn't getting > enough or too much. The BFL system works as suggested. Looking > back, I would do the full 12 weeks as stated...no tweaking. Then > assess. > > If you tweak too much, you lose your mind as you will never know what > worked, what didn't. I think that the body has it's own pattern and > time schedule...try BFL the way it is presented and then see what you > may want to do diferently. And keep in mind, I saw most of my > results at week 10. I almost gave up and then overnight it seemd I > dropped two pants sizes. > > Where are you now on your Challenge? What are you thinking about > tweaking? That may help in responses here... > > > > > > > > Do you think it would be okay if i cut back on my carbs at just > one > > > > meal before bed? I usually drink a myoplex lite shake which has > > > about > > > > 18g of carbs and 190 cals and i was plannaing on switching to > > > Myoplex > > > > Carb sense which has 5 g of carbs and 150 cals. What do you > think? > > > > Just that one meal nothing else. And i will still be gettin a > > > calorie > > > > deficit and be eating good carbs at all my other meals. I also > dont > > > > eat anything white.. it just feels wrong lol. Thanks again guys! > > > > Lindsey > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 In a message dated 12/19/2003 9:19:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, lins34@... writes: > Do you think it would be okay if i cut back on my carbs at just one > meal before bed? I have heard that it is good to skip your carb for your last meal. I am not sure of the reasoning but I think it helps you burn fat and sleep better. I normally eat both my carb and protein before bed. Sometimes I eat an EAS carb sense candy bar, but normally I eat oatmeal and cottage cheese or cottage cheese and strawberries. It would be just fine for you to skip your carb this meal. If you find it hard to stay on the diet when skipping the carb this meal, then add it back in. It is better to stick to the diet and lose weight slower, then to blow the diet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 In a message dated 12/19/2003 9:44:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, jenniferdupree@... writes: > How long do you long-timers try out a different eating routine to see if it > does anything? I weigh myself everyday. If I have changed something and I gain weight the next day, I usually will stay away from that food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 Hmmm...I think that is going to torture you needlessly... I weigh myself every day to get the average and to see how much I do flucuate (and I do up to 7 or 8 pounds depending on water intake, time of day, pre-pms, salkt factor, etc)...not to see if something is working or not. Something can be working and if you weigh yourself and you happen to have had a salty or processed meal (like turket breast or cottage cheese) you may show a increase on the scale and you won't know that it is realing working. Read (or re-read) 's article. It is my Bible of Reality when it comes to scale issues. I actually like to see the wild ranges of weight as I really know that I haven't gained 4 pounds when I have eaten cleanly and perfectly...it also allows me to know that my scale is not an accurate creature of what is working or how much " body fat " I am losing. I wouldn't do the disservice to yourself to use the scale that way. I think what Stasia and wrote about this topic is right on. Alot of this program is mental...just do it and let the body do it's thing. If you do weigh yourself, get into the mental set that it is not an accurate picture and then forget about that number. I can flip myself out when I stay the same weight for weeks on end or even gain when I know I am eating clean and doing everything as I should. I freak out, write for help, and keep going. > In a message dated 12/19/2003 9:44:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, > jenniferdupree@e... writes: > > > How long do you long-timers try out a different eating routine to see if it > > does anything? > > I weigh myself everyday. If I have changed something and I gain weight the > next day, I usually will stay away from that food. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 It actually doesn't drive me crazy. I do not stress at all about my weight. I rarely even lose weight. I just lost a pound last week. I was pretty excited because I have not lost a pound in 2 or 3 months. It helps me to monitor how what I eat affects my weight. I only have about 2 pounds to lose and if I never lost it it would not make or break me. I read somewhere that people who lose weight and keep it off weigh themselves often. I think it is just how your attitude about the scale is and I do not worry, I just enjoy tracking. Before I did BFL, I would only weigh myself on Mondays, because if I had a really good week and my weight was down on Friday I would eat more over the week-end as a reward. weighing myself also helps o keep me on track. If my weight is up, I know I have to stick to BFL eating and if it is down I am highly motivated to stick with it. I may be the exception to the rule, I am realizing after reading this board that I am in many ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 In a message dated 12/21/2003 11:07:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, blueruffian@... writes: > Hmmm...I think that is going to torture you needlessly I really don't gain weight to easily unless I eat too much fat. I gain weight on my free day, when I cheat and sometimes when I eat meat that is too high in fat. For example, one time I had egg noodles and pot roast and the next day I gained weight. I then realized I shouldn't eat that much fat. I now eat a scoop of natural peanut butter everyday and it has not affected my weight at all, in fact I lost a pound last week. So, I feel comfortable with eating it. I am in a different situation than most people on this board. I have been doing this for one year and I have lost most of the wieght I want to lose. My goal is to weigh 120 lbs and be 14% body fat. I only have 2 more pounds to go, and as I stated in another post I am not concerned with losing it fast. It takes me about 2 to 3 months to lose a pound. I also think I must have a high metabolism, because I don't gain weight easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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