Guest guest Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 wrote: I have heard that there might be an alternative to Homozon for people with very sensitive intestines. I have a patient who can't even tolerate 1/4 tsp, due to excessive cramping. Does anyone have any details about this? ===== Oxygen Therapy Blass (makers of Homozon) offers a such a product called CALOZON, which is manufactured on a calcium rather than a magnesium base, and which is not as widely available as Homozon, but will probably be obtainable through one of the manufacturer's distributors. Try 208-443-4089 for information on availability. I think you can reach Dr. Freibott at that number. Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 Bjorn, There is no real substitute for Homozon I can think of offhand. It is the best substitute for having a good ozonator. If you are trying to get more oxygen to the person, HBOT, ozonated water, ozone insufflation or cupping, a liquid oxygen product like " vitamin O " or " Hydroxygen " work. Many people with fibromyalgia pain respond well to quinine, even quinine water. From the anecdotal messages I have seen, I would think doses stronger than quinine water are more effective, but some people seem to have responded to just quinine water. Other things that definitely helped me crawl out of that pit, in the order I rate them, are piracetam or pramiracetam; Enada NADH; wheatgrass or wheatgrass powder/tablets; lots of Dr. Schulze's cayenne; CoQ10; DMG (dimethyl-glycine); ginko; fish liver oils or flax oil; jim Bjorn Roxendal wrote: > > I have heard that there might be an alternative to Homozon for people with very sensitive intestines. I have a patient who can't even tolerate 1/4 tsp, due to excessive cramping. Does anyone have any details about this? > > Another question: I have another patient with the worst case of CFS/Fibromyalgia I have ever seen. Her body pains (all over) are so severe that getting through one day at a time without taking her own life is a big challenge in itself. Any ideas how to start working with such a case? > > Bjorn > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 Thanks for sharing your experience, which I assume has been rather successful as far as your own condition is concerned!. Jim Lambert wrote: > Many people with fibromyalgia pain respond well to quinine, even quinine > water. From the anecdotal messages I have seen, I would think doses > stronger than quinine water are more effective, but some people seem to > have responded to just quinine water. > > Other things that definitely helped me crawl out of that pit, in the > order I rate them, are piracetam or pramiracetam; Enada NADH; wheatgrass > or wheatgrass powder/tablets; lots of Dr. Schulze's cayenne; CoQ10; DMG > (dimethyl-glycine); ginko; fish liver oils or flax oil; > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 Fibromyalgia/CFS is what I am treating on the QXCI. Alternative to Homozon? I have heard that there might be an alternative to Homozon for people with very sensitive intestines. I have a patient who can't even tolerate 1/4 tsp, due to excessive cramping. Does anyone have any details about this? Another question: I have another patient with the worst case of CFS/Fibromyalgia I have ever seen. Her body pains (all over) are so severe that getting through one day at a time without taking her own life is a big challenge in itself. Any ideas how to start working with such a case? Bjorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 Since Bjorn is in Sweden, I believe, he might want to contact , who is in Holland, I believe and see about getting some from him. Donna Re: Alternative to Homozon? wrote: I have heard that there might be an alternative to Homozon for people with very sensitive intestines. I have a patient who can't even tolerate 1/4 tsp, due to excessive cramping. Does anyone have any details about this? ===== Oxygen Therapy Blass (makers of Homozon) offers a such a product called CALOZON, which is manufactured on a calcium rather than a magnesium base, and which is not as widely available as Homozon, but will probably be obtainable through one of the manufacturer's distributors. Try 208-443-4089 for information on availability. I think you can reach Dr. Freibott at that number. Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 Try Transfer Factor Plus which is a product with some success. You can locate it on the site www.4ft.com./ If you need to purchase them at wholesale contact I can give you my ID code. Good luck >From: " " <snakedancerr@...> >Reply-oxyplus ><oxyplus > >Subject: Re: Alternative to Homozon? >Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:42:59 -0600 > >Fibromyalgia/CFS is what I am treating on the QXCI. > Alternative to Homozon? > > > I have heard that there might be an alternative to Homozon for people >with >very sensitive intestines. I have a patient who can't even tolerate 1/4 >tsp, >due to excessive cramping. Does anyone have any details about this? > > Another question: I have another patient with the worst case of >CFS/Fibromyalgia I have ever seen. Her body pains (all over) are so severe >that getting through one day at a time without taking her own life is a big >challenge in itself. Any ideas how to start working with such a case? > > Bjorn > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2001 Report Share Posted March 22, 2001 I also own a QXCI machine which I have used to treat her. Since she is also sensitive to electricity she reacted rather severely to the first treatment and got so bad she just couldn't take it. wrote: > Fibromyalgia/CFS is what I am treating on the QXCI. > > Bjorn: > Another question: I have another patient with the worst case of > CFS/Fibromyalgia I have ever seen. Her body pains (all over) are so severe > that getting through one day at a time without taking her own life is a big > challenge in itself. Any ideas how to start working with such a case? > > Bjorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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