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At 10:49 PM 10/21/01 +0000, you wrote:

> Thinking about infusing some herbs in some good quality olive oil,

>packaging it in fancy bottles and giving to my family this Christmas.

>You see this sort of thing in the gourmet shops all the time, and I'm

>wondering.....should I use dry herbs only? I'm concerned about moisture in

>the fresh herbs contaminating the oil. I'm not planning on heating

>them, but want to start the infusing now so the herb flavor will have time to

>seep into the oil.

>

> Anyone ever done this at home or have suggestions?

>

>Christy

Christy, seems to me this is a GREAT way to grow botulism.

Infusing them in vinegar would be a lot safer.

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In a message dated 10/23/01 5:51:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

marge@... writes:

<< Christy, seems to me this is a GREAT way to grow botulism.

Infusing them in vinegar would be a lot safer.

>>

LOL! That's what everyone keeps saying. But I just keep wondering about

all those bottles of salad oils in the fancy stores with the herb sprigs

floating in them? They must have preservatives, then, eh? I've got to

get back to Bed Bad & Beyond to check the labels, I am sooooo curious now.

I just glanced at them and thought what a great homemade gift idea! I

guess.....NOT!

Christy

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FuFuNo1@... wrote:

> LOL! That's what everyone keeps saying. But I just keep wondering about

>all those bottles of salad oils in the fancy stores with the herb sprigs

>floating in them? They must have preservatives, then, eh?

the mass market oils use dried herbs, not fresh. it's the water in the fresh

herbs that causes problems, but since herbs can be dried and then kept for ages,

there's far less concern over the water content.

you can always feel free to infuse fresh herbs, strain them out, then dry new

herbs on the sprig, then use them to 'decorate' your oil.

i've done it - got the best results with rosemary or garlic.

~risa

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Olive oil has been used to preserve foods for

centuries.

The herbs are safe in the oil

as long as they are not exposed to air. When the

level

of oil goes down past the herbs, you either remove

the

herbs, or " top off " with more oil.

I have been making infused oils for years, and

haven't

had one go bad. Of course they don't stick around

long

enough. LOL

Of course, I sterilize ALL of my containers and

equipment before I start and I heat the oil oil

and the

containers before I pour in my oil.

Heidi

----- Original Message -----

From: <FuFuNo1@...>

> LOL! That's what everyone keeps saying. But

I just keep wondering about

> all those bottles of salad oils in the fancy

stores with the herb sprigs

> floating in them? They must have

preservatives, then, eh? I've got to

> get back to Bed Bad & Beyond to check the

labels, I am sooooo curious now.

> I just glanced at them and thought what a great

homemade gift idea! I

> guess.....NOT!

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Risa

Are you talking about putting the fresh herbs in the oil? Like the expensive

oils you see in the gourmet grocery stores? Looks pretty cool. Do you dry

them first? The ones in the stores look not dried. Or maybe it is because

they " puffed " out because of being immersed in the oil? Just wondering.

Cate

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The problem with making oils is primarily with garlic. The garlic when

stored in an anaerobic atmosphere (i.e. in oil) will develop botulism spores.

I would definately not use garlic in this manner unless I was planning to

store in fridge and then only for a day or two. Very dangerous stuff. I'm

sure you can do a search for herbal oils AND botulism and get all the details.

HTH

Stacey

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oops, forgot to mention. It's only the home-made variety that develops

botulism. The commercial stuff is treated in some manner (can't remember

what it is that does it) to kill off the spores.

HTH

Stacey

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In a message dated 10/24/01 12:42:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

hscholes1@... writes:

> I have been making infused oils for years, and

> haven't

>

Heidi,

I congratulate you on your quick use of your flavored olive oils.

My big concern is that when giving them as gifts you do not have control over

how the end user uses them or stores them.

If someone were to become sick or have a gift I gave them go bad (even with

instructions) I would be easily mortified, even if I tried to convince myself

that they did not follow my directions.

If giving these as gifts, do so at your own risk.

What works great for you may not work so great for someone else's

mother-in-law.

lynn in valencia

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This is so true. We had a very bad case of poisoning a couple of yrs. ago on

a cruise ship and the culprit was the bottled garlic. Go figure, I buy it

all the time but it does get used up fairly quickly around here.

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Cates3Gems@... wrote:

>Risa

>Are you talking about putting the fresh herbs in the oil? Like the expensive

>oils you see in the gourmet grocery stores? Looks pretty cool. Do you dry

>them first? The ones in the stores look not dried. Or maybe it is because

>they " puffed " out because of being immersed in the oil? Just wondering.

well, commercial oils can get away with fresh-er herbs because they have the

sterile facilities to treat them.

we, on the other hand, can't.

my process has always been:

macerate fresh herbs in oil

heat oil to almost-boiling

strain herbs out of oil

get fully-dried herbs

place them in bottle

cover with 'decocted' oil

the plant matter will get more flexible over time.

other people have stated garlic is a serious problem in oil. my understanding

has been that the issues with garlic are only with fresh cloves or full-sized

dried cloves. i always put in dried slices with the center " sprout " removed.

that might just mean i've been lucky, however, and i only use it myself! so if

i were you i'd stick to dried rosemary and oregano ;)

~risa

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