[TreatingAutism-Biomedical]Moira/was: Re: Long - Mandi's Memory of Hg Pro...

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> I'm very glad I asked! Thanks Mandi and Moria for shedding some

> light on the days before I arrived. Ours is certainly a long-

> running soap opera.

>

> I'm still confused though. ;-)

>

> Does everyone but Andy then believe that chelating agents can

never

> drop the metals? Is that what it comes down to?

I don't know that others see it this way -- though you did

say " what it comes down to " .

Also, I'm not sure if I see it this way--- I like the

simplicity of how you've said it. But isn't there a bit

more to it? I mean, even theoretically, the idea of redistribution

involves other stuff besides dropping metals, doesn't it?

Like preferentially resettling in the brain.

And like that BIT that resettles in the brain being enough

to be a problem.

When I talk to people about it theoretically like this,

I think all theories seem bizarre! I mean, it COULD

BE that there is redistribution, but who the heck would

know?

For me it is practical examples that make the case. Without

that, it is all a bunch of " possibilities " , to me.

So, putting theory aside, I think many many practitioners

either don't have any/enough awareness of " bad reactions " .

As in, the view " this works fine " or " no problems " .

Or else " oh, that was a single case and was due to <fill in

explanation> " . Also, many practitioners (and the people

seeing them) have veeeery much different explanations of

why " bad reactions " occur. I posted on A-M about this

a while back--- a semi-humorous post IMO-- it was a list

of the theories I'm aware of that are in competition

with " bad dosing " as explanations for increased mercury

poisoning / " bad reactions " .

Everyone (and his brother) has a list of 6 things you've

got to do to chelate properly and safely. And, of course,

I mean a completely DIFFERENT list.

Minerals at same time, or at different time.

IV's of vitamin C.

Use homeopathics to clear energy pathways or detox channels.

Keep the bowels open.

Use saunas.

Do liver cleanse beforehand.

Clear gut bugs first.

I think a lot of it does NOT come down to believing

chelators never drop metals. More like believing something

else, believing what you have been taught, believing what

you know of, etc.

If you want to really understand,

I suggest that you visit " the outside world " . Such as: read

5 or 10 competing approaches to mercury detox, for example.

I recommend reading Klinghardt, maybe Gordon (think I

have that name right?). Also read about MT promoter,

and look for the spokesman (I think it is

Goldberg, not sure on spelling) (he is against chelation

and thinks it is harmful). Read views on mercury on

some doctor's sites (Mercola [very Klinghardt-influenced],

Neubrander, Buttar, Cave, Green, etc.) See what you find.

Then, you tell me, is this really about that they think

chelators never drop the metals? Maybe that is true, but

it is certainly not what they are talking about.

> Also, does anyone know about the supplementation guidelines? Do

> they come from Andy? Example, the zinc 1mg/ 2 pounds plus 20 that

> everyone uses.

probably some of Andy, maybe some elsewhere. Not sure on the zinc

one you cited.

>

> Thanks. I'm not sure why this matters so much to me. But I feel

> better knowing what I now know.

Oh, that is nice. Interesting.

Moria