Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Hi Rhona - you talking about this stuff and Fulvic, reminded me this is something I have been goign to try for ages and ages. I have a peronal theory about this and NDF+ and wonder if thats why some folks see such a good response when wthey start the NDF+. Anyways, DUH - a already have some - so I must have rembered at soem point before LOL - its called Metal Magnet. Now - to my question - its says to give this 3 hours away from supplements -thats kind of impossible here - do you do that? This is whats in it Metal Magnet's key ingredient, purified Humifulvate, is obtained from a unique, spring-fed, Hungarian peat deposit that is over 3,000 years old. It has been the subject of scientific studies for over 40 years. Research shows that Metal Magnet™ binds to heavy metals such as lead and cadmium, allowing the body to expel them more easily.†Years of environmental exposures to toxins, buildup of unhealthy waste substances, and improper eating habits can all take their toll on your system. Metal Magnet contributes to a healthy lifestyle by helping limit the amount of heavy metals in the body.†Recommendations: One capsule daily between meals with a full glass of water. Do not take other dietary supplements or prescription drugs three hours before or after taking Metal Magnet. Use for eight-week periods between cleansings with Enzymatic Therapy's Whole Body Cleanse or Simple Cleanse.†Do not exceed three eight-week periods in one year unless directed by a health care practitioner. Supplement Facts: Serving Size 1 capsule Amount Per Capsule %DV** Proprietary Humifulvate Complex humic, fulvic, and phenolic acids 75 mg ** -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **Daily Value (DV) not established. Grateful for any thoughts Mandi in Dorset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 In a message dated 25/02/2006 20:35:31 GMT Standard Time, geirf@... writes: Where is the science / the studies shoowing the stuff really brings out Hg, Pb etc ?? >>>There is none that I am aware of, except for that on the sites selling it, which is a biot like much of what we use. No studies on TD DMSA, TD DMPS etc although they are at least using well established chelators Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 In a message dated 25/02/2006 21:53:25 GMT Standard Time, chris.cytera@... writes: We give after dinner 5 ml in sparkling water with pear juice >>>Thanks Rhona - does is tatse OK or is your child a start at taking supps? We do probiotics and Candex while he is asleep at different times, after dinner he would be havign Melatonin most nights, so that would be out. Need to think some more Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Where is the science / the studies shoowing the stuff really brings out Hg, Pb etc ?? Geir Flatabø Mum231ASD@... skrev: > Hi Rhona - you talking about this stuff and Fulvic, reminded me this > is something I have been goign to try for ages and ages. I have a > peronal theory about this and NDF+ and wonder if thats why some folks > see such a good response when wthey start the NDF+. > > Anyways, DUH - a already have some - so I must have rembered at soem > point before LOL - its called Metal Magnet. Now - to my question - its > says to give this 3 hours away from supplements -thats kind of > impossible here - do you do that? > > This is whats in it > > Metal Magnet's key ingredient, purified Humifulvate, is obtained from > a unique, spring-fed, Hungarian peat deposit that is over 3,000 years > old. It has been the subject of scientific studies for over 40 years. > Research shows that Metal Magnet™ binds to heavy metals such as lead > and cadmium, allowing the body to expel them more easily.†> > Years of environmental exposures to toxins, buildup of unhealthy waste > substances, and improper eating habits can all take their toll on your > system. Metal Magnet contributes to a healthy lifestyle by helping > limit the amount of heavy metals in the body.†> > *Recommendations:* One capsule daily between meals with a full glass > of water. Do not take other dietary supplements or prescription drugs > three hours before or after taking Metal Magnet. Use for eight-week > periods between cleansings with Enzymatic Therapy's Whole Body Cleanse > or Simple Cleanse.†Do not exceed three eight-week periods in one year > unless directed by a health care practitioner. > > *Supplement* *Facts*: > *Serving Size* *1 capsule > **_ Amount Per Capsule > %DV**_* > Proprietary Humifulvate Complex > humic, fulvic, and phenolic acids 75 mg ** > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > **Daily Value (DV) not established. > > Grateful for any thoughts > > Mandi in Dorset > > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical > advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably > qualified practitioner. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 > Hi Mandi We give after dinner 5 ml in sparkling water with pear juice. All other supplements and minerals are given at least three hours in advance of this. We don't give zinc as humet contains zinc. The leaflet in the box advises against using within three hours of any other product. When we are chelating again (after a period of illness) we are increasing dose to 10ml every other day. - We chelate on alternate days - Bhuttar's protocol. Content: A 300ml bottle contains 2.25 g humic acid, so if my calculations are correct, a 5ml dose is .075g. A 300ml bottle also contains 1.10 g potassium, 450mg magnesium, 420mg iron, 300 mg zinc, 90mg manganese, 60 mg copper, 15 mg vanadium, 6 mg cobalt, 5.2 mg moybdenum, 3.75 mg selenium. Hope that helps! Rhona > Hi Rhona - you talking about this stuff and Fulvic, reminded me this is > something I have been goign to try for ages and ages. I have a peronal theory > about this and NDF+ and wonder if thats why some folks see such a good response > when wthey start the NDF+. > > Anyways, DUH - a already have some - so I must have rembered at soem point > before LOL - its called Metal Magnet. Now - to my question - its says to give > this 3 hours away from supplements -thats kind of impossible here - do you > do that? > > This is whats in it > > Metal Magnet's key ingredient, purified Humifulvate, is obtained from a > unique, spring-fed, Hungarian peat deposit that is over 3,000 years old. It has > been the subject of scientific studies for over 40 years. Research shows that > Metal Magnet™ binds to heavy metals such as lead and cadmium, allowing the > body to expel them more easily.†> > Years of environmental exposures to toxins, buildup of unhealthy waste > substances, and improper eating habits can all take their toll on your system. > Metal Magnet contributes to a healthy lifestyle by helping limit the amount of > heavy metals in the body.†> > Recommendations: One capsule daily between meals with a full glass of water. > Do not take other dietary supplements or prescription drugs three hours > before or after taking Metal Magnet. Use for eight-week periods between > cleansings with Enzymatic Therapy's Whole Body Cleanse or Simple Cleanse.†Do not > exceed three eight-week periods in one year unless directed by a health care > practitioner. > Supplement Facts: > Serving Size 1 capsule > Amount Per Capsule %DV** > Proprietary Humifulvate Complex > humic, fulvic, and phenolic acids 75 mg ** > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > -- > **Daily Value (DV) not established. > Grateful for any thoughts > Mandi in Dorset > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 >Hi there Look at the research on fulcrumhealth.co.uk. There are innumerable studies on this. HTH Rhona > Where is the science / the studies shoowing the stuff really brings > out Hg, Pb etc ?? > > Geir Flatabø > > Mum231ASD@... skrev: > > > Hi Rhona - you talking about this stuff and Fulvic, reminded me this > > is something I have been goign to try for ages and ages. I have a > > peronal theory about this and NDF+ and wonder if thats why some folks > > see such a good response when wthey start the NDF+. > > > > Anyways, DUH - a already have some - so I must have rembered at soem > > point before LOL - its called Metal Magnet. Now - to my question - its > > says to give this 3 hours away from supplements -thats kind of > > impossible here - do you do that? > > > > This is whats in it > > > > Metal Magnet's key ingredient, purified Humifulvate, is obtained from > > a unique, spring-fed, Hungarian peat deposit that is over 3,000 years > > old. It has been the subject of scientific studies for over 40 years. > > Research shows that Metal Magnet™ binds to heavy metals such as lead > > and cadmium, allowing the body to expel them more easily.†> > > > Years of environmental exposures to toxins, buildup of unhealthy waste > > substances, and improper eating habits can all take their toll on your > > system. Metal Magnet contributes to a healthy lifestyle by helping > > limit the amount of heavy metals in the body.†> > > > *Recommendations:* One capsule daily between meals with a full glass > > of water. Do not take other dietary supplements or prescription drugs > > three hours before or after taking Metal Magnet. Use for eight- week > > periods between cleansings with Enzymatic Therapy's Whole Body Cleanse > > or Simple Cleanse.†Do not exceed three eight-week periods in one year > > unless directed by a health care practitioner. > > > > *Supplement* *Facts*: > > *Serving Size* *1 capsule > > **_ Amount Per Capsule > > %DV**_* > > Proprietary Humifulvate Complex > > humic, fulvic, and phenolic acids 75 mg ** > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- > > **Daily Value (DV) not established. > > > > Grateful for any thoughts > > > > Mandi in Dorset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER > > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical > > advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably > > qualified practitioner. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 > > Hi Mandi We give our prebiotic and probiotic half an hr before breakfast on the basis that is when the stomache is emptiest having not eaten for more than 12 hrs. Re the humet, it doesn't have a nasty taste and mixed with the pear juice and water is absolutely fine! Rhona > In a message dated 25/02/2006 21:53:25 GMT Standard Time, > chris.cytera@... writes: > > We give after dinner 5 ml in sparkling water with pear juice > > > >>>Thanks Rhona - does is tatse OK or is your child a start at taking supps? > > We do probiotics and Candex while he is asleep at different times, after > dinner he would be havign Melatonin most nights, so that would be out. Need to > think some more > > Mandi x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 bty343341 skrev: > Look at the research on fulcrumhealth.co.uk. There are innumerable > >studies on this. HTH Rhona > So I`ve done. I looked esp at the " Science section " , and I am still not able to see any documentation on that the product in fact does bring out heavy metals, not one study, not even a case, only statements without any measurements, to me you could give wheat bran and make the same statement, and I guess the effect of Vitamin C is much better asd better documented. ( Still of course the product might have the effect, but there are no studies showing that). Geir Flatabø Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 > > > > bty343341 skrev: > Hi Geir Apparently the page you mention on the fulcrum health website has many research studies (according to our resident scientific expert (aka my partner) By this I mean independent, not conducted by the manufacturer, over a long time scale involving lead detoxification, cadmium etc., The British importer is very knowledgeable and will respond to queries at length . Details as follows:wardkmk@... Clearly it's a personal choice which methods of detoxification you use, but our friend's experience and the way our child responds plus the fact this chelator also supplements with many trace elements mean that we are happy. Dr Heard is also in agreement with our using this and since he is the foremost DAN Doctor in the UK, that's good enough for me!It's also worth noting there is no peer-reviewed double blind research papers on DMPS which is more widely used. There is no 'money - (or child )back guarantee' on any of these products. But hey, that's one of the benefits of a parliamentary democracy - no- one's forcing you to use this product - we still have the choice - albeit another five years of Tony Blair should put paid to all that...... Hope that helps (and incidentally, no, I do not own shares in fulcrum health) HTH Rhona > > Look at the research on fulcrumhealth.co.uk. There are innumerable > > > >studies on this. > > > So I`ve done. I looked esp at the " Science section " , > and I am still not able to see any documentation on that the product in > fact does bring out heavy metals, not one study, not even a case, > only statements without any measurements, > to me you could give wheat bran and make the same statement, > and I guess the effect of Vitamin C is much better asd better documented. > ( Still of course the product might have the effect, but there are no > studies showing that). > > Geir Flatabø > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 DMPS is mostly used while showing metal contents before, during and after chelating, demonstrating metal dumping. It is known to give negative side effects in some, not without hazards, and obviously other chelatig agents are welcome. If you are using Humic acid, have you done pretest, and during chelation, and after, showing that metals in fact leave the body. According to Owens, the main effect seen by using DMPS ( and DMSA) is not due to their chelating efficacy, but due to their antioxydant capacity, so I don`t know the stuff - humic / fulvic acids, I hesitate recommending new stuff before I know a bit more. Claims ought to be substantiated better than I was able to find on their hompages... Geir Flatabø bty343341 skrev: > > > >> >>bty343341 skrev: >> >> >> >Hi Geir > >Apparently the page you mention on the fulcrum health website has >many research studies (according to our resident scientific expert >(aka my partner) By this I mean independent, not conducted by the >manufacturer, over a long time scale involving lead detoxification, >cadmium etc., The British importer is very knowledgeable and will >respond to queries at length . Details as follows:wardkmk@... > >Clearly it's a personal choice which methods of detoxification you >use, but our friend's experience and the way our child responds plus >the fact this chelator also supplements with many trace elements mean >that we are happy. Dr Heard is also in agreement with our using this >and since he is the foremost DAN Doctor in the UK, that's good enough >for me!It's also worth noting there is no peer-reviewed double blind >research papers on DMPS which is more widely used. There is >no 'money - (or child )back guarantee' on any of these products. >But hey, that's one of the benefits of a parliamentary democracy - no- >one's forcing you to use this product - we still have the choice - >albeit another five years of Tony Blair should put paid to all >that...... > >Hope that helps (and incidentally, no, I do not own shares in fulcrum >health) >HTH >Rhona > > >>>Look at the research on fulcrumhealth.co.uk. There are innumerable >>> >>>studies on this. >>> >>> >>> >>So I`ve done. I looked esp at the " Science section " , >>and I am still not able to see any documentation on that the >> >> >product in > > >>fact does bring out heavy metals, not one study, not even a case, >>only statements without any measurements, >>to me you could give wheat bran and make the same statement, >>and I guess the effect of Vitamin C is much better asd better >> >> >documented. > > >>( Still of course the product might have the effect, but there are >> >> >no > > >>studies showing that). >> >>Geir Flatabø >> >> >> > > > > > > >DISCLAIMER >No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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