Re: Need help with body butter

[Guest guest]

Did it feel gritty?

Beth Byrne

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On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:47 AM, sewjewel <sewjewel@...> wrote:

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>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I'm experimenting with making body butters. Tried a basic recipe - total 8

> ounces of olive oil, cocoa butter, coconut oil, a tablespoon of honey and a

> tablespoon of beeswax. whipped - placed in freezer for 5 minutes and whipped

> again... did this about 3 or 4 times. came out nice and creamy - great

> consistency - but when I tried it - it wasn't a totally smooth feel.... any

> thoughts?

>

> Thanks in advance for any feedback..

>

> Kind regards,

>

> Pat Armstrong

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Beth,

It had kind of a drag instead of a glide....although some feedback I've received

already points to my use of beeswax and honey in the body butter... So I need to

reevaluate this.... In my reading - it seems that if you are adding pure honey

to a body butter (without water) you need an emulsifier - being lecithin,

beeswax, borax combo,etc. Some of what I read said you need beeswax with honey

- in a body butter - so I tried it... wasn't what I expected. I made another -

without the honey and beeswax which I've been using all week. I wanted to

experiment with the use of honey - but still researching:)

>

> >

> >

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > I'm experimenting with making body butters. Tried a basic recipe - total 8

> > ounces of olive oil, cocoa butter, coconut oil, a tablespoon of honey and a

> > tablespoon of beeswax. whipped - placed in freezer for 5 minutes and whipped

> > again... did this about 3 or 4 times. came out nice and creamy - great

> > consistency - but when I tried it - it wasn't a totally smooth feel.... any

> > thoughts?

> >

> > Thanks in advance for any feedback..

> >

> > Kind regards,

> >

> > Pat Armstrong

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I see. It is hard to emulsify honey, being water-based, into an oil-based

product. My own results for lip balm were only sometimes successful, so I

quit putting it in.

I don't know why you would NEED beeswax w/ honey, though. Is it to help

emulsify?

Have you ever tried whipping shea butter instead of cocoa butter? I never

thought CB would whip up well, but now I'm curious. Maybe I'll try mango

butter, too.

How did the sans honey and beeswax formula work out for you?

Beth Byrne

http://www.SoapAndGarden.com

Garden goodness in every bar!

www/SoapandGarden.blogspot.com

http://www.Saponifier.com

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:12 AM, sewjewel <sewjewel@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi Beth,

>

> It had kind of a drag instead of a glide....although some feedback I've

> received already points to my use of beeswax and honey in the body butter...

> So I need to reevaluate this.... In my reading - it seems that if you are

> adding pure honey to a body butter (without water) you need an emulsifier -

> being lecithin, beeswax, borax combo,etc. Some of what I read said you need

> beeswax with honey - in a body butter - so I tried it... wasn't what I

> expected. I made another - without the honey and beeswax which I've been

> using all week. I wanted to experiment with the use of honey - but still

> researching:)

>

>

>

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello everyone,

> > >

> > > I'm experimenting with making body butters. Tried a basic recipe -

> total 8

> > > ounces of olive oil, cocoa butter, coconut oil, a tablespoon of honey

> and a

> > > tablespoon of beeswax. whipped - placed in freezer for 5 minutes and

> whipped

> > > again... did this about 3 or 4 times. came out nice and creamy - great

> > > consistency - but when I tried it - it wasn't a totally smooth feel....

> any

> > > thoughts?

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance for any feedback..

> > >

> > > Kind regards,

> > >

> > > Pat Armstrong

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I make my whipped butter with mango and cocoa butter. I originally did just

cocoa butter because i didn't have a large supply of mango but it worked out ok

with the cocoa butter. Previously i used cocoa butter, cherry kernel oil,

glycerine and Natrasorb.

I wanted something a bit more luxurious so I added the mango and babasu oil.

Either way are still good.

BTW how are you melting your oils. I find it easiestin a double boiler then the

microwave. The mircrowave just seems to heat the bowl alot vs melting the oils.

I worry about the bowl breaking.

It might be too much beeswax, giving you the problem. I wonder, would soywax

work?? it is a bit creamier to allow it to glide better.

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hello everyone,

> > > >

> > > > I'm experimenting with making body butters. Tried a basic recipe -

> > total 8

> > > > ounces of olive oil, cocoa butter, coconut oil, a tablespoon of honey

> > and a

> > > > tablespoon of beeswax. whipped - placed in freezer for 5 minutes and

> > whipped

> > > > again... did this about 3 or 4 times. came out nice and creamy - great

> > > > consistency - but when I tried it - it wasn't a totally smooth feel....

> > any

> > > > thoughts?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks in advance for any feedback..

> > > >

> > > > Kind regards,

> > > >

> > > > Pat Armstrong

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I melt my hard oils completely in a double boiler and then add my liquid

oils (I don't use beeswax, but sometimes a little stearic acid) and whip a

little. I then replace my hot water with cold tap water and mix well. I

let it sit until it starts hardening and then whip for awhile. I keep

coming back to it until it's about the consistency I want.

It takes a long time, but I like the result.

Beth Byrne

http://www.SoapAndGarden.com

Garden goodness in every bar!

www/SoapandGarden.blogspot.com

http://www.Saponifier.com

On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 9:31 AM, K Bear Creations <Koalas_boutique@...

> wrote:

>

>

> I make my whipped butter with mango and cocoa butter. I originally did just

> cocoa butter because i didn't have a large supply of mango but it worked out

> ok with the cocoa butter. Previously i used cocoa butter, cherry kernel oil,

> glycerine and Natrasorb.

>

> I wanted something a bit more luxurious so I added the mango and babasu

> oil. Either way are still good.

>

> BTW how are you melting your oils. I find it easiestin a double boiler then

> the microwave. The mircrowave just seems to heat the bowl alot vs melting

> the oils. I worry about the bowl breaking.

>

> It might be too much beeswax, giving you the problem. I wonder, would

> soywax work?? it is a bit creamier to allow it to glide better.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Pat,

I know what you mean. I have struggled with my body butters too. When I do a

simple recipe and melt the butters then whip them, it comes out great but then

sets up in a non-whip way. It sets up hard but it does melt when it touches the

skin. I have seen people put e-wax, stearic acid, and other ingredients I have

seen in lotions. I am going to attempt to experiment again soon.

Good luck!

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I'm experimenting with making body butters. Tried a basic recipe - total 8

ounces of olive oil, cocoa butter, coconut oil, a tablespoon of honey and a

tablespoon of beeswax. whipped - placed in freezer for 5 minutes and whipped

again... did this about 3 or 4 times. came out nice and creamy - great

consistency - but when I tried it - it wasn't a totally smooth feel.... any

thoughts?

>

>

> Thanks in advance for any feedback..

>

>

>

>

>

> Kind regards,

>

>

>

>

>

> Pat Armstrong

>

[Guest guest]

The big difference came for me when I started using the whipping attachment

on my mixer, rather than the regular mixing whatever-you-call-its or my

stick blender.

It blends more air in the mixture.

Beth Byrne

http://www.SoapAndGarden.com

Garden goodness in every bar!

www/SoapandGarden.blogspot.com

http://www.Saponifier.com

On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 7:37 AM, R <mrivera1972@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi Pat,

>

> I know what you mean. I have struggled with my body butters too. When I do

> a simple recipe and melt the butters then whip them, it comes out great but

> then sets up in a non-whip way. It sets up hard but it does melt when it

> touches the skin. I have seen people put e-wax, stearic acid, and other

> ingredients I have seen in lotions. I am going to attempt to experiment

> again soon.

>

> Good luck!

>

>

>

> >

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > I'm experimenting with making body butters. Tried a basic recipe - total

> 8 ounces of olive oil, cocoa butter, coconut oil, a tablespoon of honey and

> a tablespoon of beeswax. whipped - placed in freezer for 5 minutes and

> whipped again... did this about 3 or 4 times. came out nice and creamy -

> great consistency - but when I tried it - it wasn't a totally smooth

> feel.... any thoughts?

> >

> >

> > Thanks in advance for any feedback..

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Kind regards,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Pat Armstrong

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

i don't have thoughs. I just have bread dough blades and regular beaters.

Ya know what problem I have with doing any kind og whipped item (butters,

foaming bath butter....) is making all the batches the same. Some are more dense

and weigh more per volume then other batches.

I think we should have a whipping demo. lol lol

> > >

> > > Hello everyone,

> > >

> > > I'm experimenting with making body butters. Tried a basic recipe - total

> > 8 ounces of olive oil, cocoa butter, coconut oil, a tablespoon of honey and

> > a tablespoon of beeswax. whipped - placed in freezer for 5 minutes and

> > whipped again... did this about 3 or 4 times. came out nice and creamy -

> > great consistency - but when I tried it - it wasn't a totally smooth

> > feel.... any thoughts?

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance for any feedback..

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Kind regards,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Pat Armstrong

> > >

> >

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