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Whew, stop, take a deep breath!! And another one :) We've all been

down that path before. But try to think of health first and foremost.

In the long run, I think health is more important than anything and

usually is connected with safe weight loss, not diet pills.

I also don't think she was trying to tell you that you needed to lose

weight but more about how she felt at her wedding or maybe she

thought that is how you " felt " from your converstaion, not

necessarily how you look. Am I explaining this right?

And now for step two through the DAMN SCALE AWAY :) :) The scale is

your worst enemy!! Take your measurements, how do your clothes

feel?? I started this time around weighing 4-5 lbs less than when I

quit in October, yet none of my same clothes fit. The scale really is

not the answer!

Try writing down some goals. Make long-term and short-term goals.

When I'm in a rut I make simple goals I know I can accomplish. Give

myself a mental reward for getting there. Make yourself accountable

for the goals, and with every success you will become mre and more

confident that you can do this. You need to set yourself up to

succeed.

Colleen

> so this weekend was terrible,

>

> it all started because i decided to weigh myself on saturday

morning.

>

> no, actually that's not true.

>

> it all started because i was having a conversation last week with a

> friend of mine about the old " bad " ways we used to diet - starving,

> taking pills, etc. and she said that she has always regretted not

> losing weight for her wedding - even if it would have been only

> temporary - because now every time she sees those pictures of

herself

> she hates to look at them because she looks " fat " .

>

> then she suggested that i should think about taking diet pills

again -

> you can order them on line, you know - for the 6 weeks or so before

my

> wedding so i could lose some weight before the big day.

>

> and i'm sure she didn't mean anything by it - but i have been

dwelling

> on what she said. to me that sounds like she is telling me i NEED to

> lose weight, and that if i don't then i will look fat on my wedding

> day and in the photographs.

>

> it just confirmed what i already believe - that everyone is lying

when

> they tell me i look okay.

> so after dwelling on that for while i decided that i should weigh

myself.

>

> you know it's been almost FIVE MONTHS since i did, and i have been

> doing pretty well - i have cheated on my program - i have been

taking

> really free free days - but still i expected to see a loss or at the

> very worst be the same weight that i was when i started.

>

> i gained 8 pounds.

>

> EIGHT POUNDS!!!!!

>

> i don't even know what to do anymore. so i freaked out: crying and

> yelling and pacing the apartment.

>

> because i am so tired of this struggle.

> and it seems like my body just won't lose weight no matter what -

> unless i take the damn diet pills and eat 600 calories a day.

>

> and that i am sick of hearing that i need to just accept how i am -

> that it is all in my head. because it ISN'T all in my head.

>

> i have evidence now, see? even my friends think i am fat and the

scale

> says so too. and i know it's probably 8 pounds of muscle that i

gained

> - but still.

>

> i feel like giving up, dying, screaming, starving and so on.

>

> i don't even know how to go on with this " diet " or make myself go to

> the gym.

>

> and it's not really about what my friend said - that's NOT the

issue -

> and she's NOT jealous - she's lost 40 pounds in the past year - so

> it's not about that.

>

> it's about me. and why am i even bothering to stick with this?

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--- HI ..I can't remember if you go by Ann?

I am soo sorry you are feeling this way. I was feeling this way too

last week..it was a horrid week. I thought..why even bother with

this? I am getting tired..I just keep going and going and going..but

it is the third challenge..I knew I would get to this point. my

problem is I am sick of protein..sick sick sick of it. I just want to

eat my yougurt by itself..my fruit by itself..yada yada yada....

I know you have to keep going on. what else can you do ? you do

know this program works soo well. I know that..it takes time. heck I

have only just now gotten to a size 16 after 3 challenges! you would

think I would be lower..but I don't care..it *is* a big change. and

gaining eight pounds of muscle is a huge accomplishment! has your

clothes gotten tighter? cause if not..and they are getting

looser..there is your answer for that. take a good look in the

mirror..and like I always say..take some pics..there is your real

difference. how bout that? I am not weighing myself for a year..you

could try that. so not till january. It sounds to me you are doing

all you should do. just tighten up your eating..maybe change up the

workouts if it is boredom that is a problem. just cheat on free day

and that day only. maybe you can help me want to stuff protein down

my face more! I am doing it..but not havin fun with it! lol

I am so sorry you cried. I know the feeling..but you will have good

and bad days...tommorrow you will be okay..just keep going..there

really is no other choice! if you keep going ..I will promise I

will too..and i will keep eating my protein! you can do this..if I

can..you can! whatever that means huh? lol! chipper up gurl!

Kathi

In , " annaklahr "

<annaklahr@y...> wrote:

> so this weekend was terrible,

>

> it all started because i decided to weigh myself on saturday

morning.

>

> no, actually that's not true.

>

> it all started because i was having a conversation last week with a

> friend of mine about the old " bad " ways we used to diet - starving,

> taking pills, etc. and she said that she has always regretted not

> losing weight for her wedding - even if it would have been only

> temporary - because now every time she sees those pictures of

herself

> she hates to look at them because she looks " fat " .

>

> then she suggested that i should think about taking diet pills

again -

> you can order them on line, you know - for the 6 weeks or so before

my

> wedding so i could lose some weight before the big day.

>

> and i'm sure she didn't mean anything by it - but i have been

dwelling

> on what she said. to me that sounds like she is telling me i NEED to

> lose weight, and that if i don't then i will look fat on my wedding

> day and in the photographs.

>

> it just confirmed what i already believe - that everyone is lying

when

> they tell me i look okay.

> so after dwelling on that for while i decided that i should weigh

myself.

>

> you know it's been almost FIVE MONTHS since i did, and i have been

> doing pretty well - i have cheated on my program - i have been

taking

> really free free days - but still i expected to see a loss or at the

> very worst be the same weight that i was when i started.

>

> i gained 8 pounds.

>

> EIGHT POUNDS!!!!!

>

> i don't even know what to do anymore. so i freaked out: crying and

> yelling and pacing the apartment.

>

> because i am so tired of this struggle.

> and it seems like my body just won't lose weight no matter what -

> unless i take the damn diet pills and eat 600 calories a day.

>

> and that i am sick of hearing that i need to just accept how i am -

> that it is all in my head. because it ISN'T all in my head.

>

> i have evidence now, see? even my friends think i am fat and the

scale

> says so too. and i know it's probably 8 pounds of muscle that i

gained

> - but still.

>

> i feel like giving up, dying, screaming, starving and so on.

>

> i don't even know how to go on with this " diet " or make myself go to

> the gym.

>

> and it's not really about what my friend said - that's NOT the

issue -

> and she's NOT jealous - she's lost 40 pounds in the past year - so

> it's not about that.

>

> it's about me. and why am i even bothering to stick with this?

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--- Hey Colleen! that was really really really good advice for !

Kathi

In , " colleenp99 "

<colleen_meacham@h...> wrote:

> Whew, stop, take a deep breath!! And another one :) We've all been

> down that path before. But try to think of health first and

foremost.

> In the long run, I think health is more important than anything and

> usually is connected with safe weight loss, not diet pills.

>

> I also don't think she was trying to tell you that you needed to

lose

> weight but more about how she felt at her wedding or maybe she

> thought that is how you " felt " from your converstaion, not

> necessarily how you look. Am I explaining this right?

>

> And now for step two through the DAMN SCALE AWAY :) :) The scale

is

> your worst enemy!! Take your measurements, how do your clothes

> feel?? I started this time around weighing 4-5 lbs less than when I

> quit in October, yet none of my same clothes fit. The scale really

is

> not the answer!

>

> Try writing down some goals. Make long-term and short-term goals.

> When I'm in a rut I make simple goals I know I can accomplish. Give

> myself a mental reward for getting there. Make yourself accountable

> for the goals, and with every success you will become mre and more

> confident that you can do this. You need to set yourself up to

> succeed.

>

> Colleen

>

>

>

>

>

> > so this weekend was terrible,

> >

> > it all started because i decided to weigh myself on saturday

> morning.

> >

> > no, actually that's not true.

> >

> > it all started because i was having a conversation last week with

a

> > friend of mine about the old " bad " ways we used to diet -

starving,

> > taking pills, etc. and she said that she has always regretted not

> > losing weight for her wedding - even if it would have been only

> > temporary - because now every time she sees those pictures of

> herself

> > she hates to look at them because she looks " fat " .

> >

> > then she suggested that i should think about taking diet pills

> again -

> > you can order them on line, you know - for the 6 weeks or so

before

> my

> > wedding so i could lose some weight before the big day.

> >

> > and i'm sure she didn't mean anything by it - but i have been

> dwelling

> > on what she said. to me that sounds like she is telling me i NEED

to

> > lose weight, and that if i don't then i will look fat on my

wedding

> > day and in the photographs.

> >

> > it just confirmed what i already believe - that everyone is lying

> when

> > they tell me i look okay.

> > so after dwelling on that for while i decided that i should weigh

> myself.

> >

> > you know it's been almost FIVE MONTHS since i did, and i have been

> > doing pretty well - i have cheated on my program - i have been

> taking

> > really free free days - but still i expected to see a loss or at

the

> > very worst be the same weight that i was when i started.

> >

> > i gained 8 pounds.

> >

> > EIGHT POUNDS!!!!!

> >

> > i don't even know what to do anymore. so i freaked out: crying and

> > yelling and pacing the apartment.

> >

> > because i am so tired of this struggle.

> > and it seems like my body just won't lose weight no matter what -

> > unless i take the damn diet pills and eat 600 calories a day.

> >

> > and that i am sick of hearing that i need to just accept how i

am -

> > that it is all in my head. because it ISN'T all in my head.

> >

> > i have evidence now, see? even my friends think i am fat and the

> scale

> > says so too. and i know it's probably 8 pounds of muscle that i

> gained

> > - but still.

> >

> > i feel like giving up, dying, screaming, starving and so on.

> >

> > i don't even know how to go on with this " diet " or make myself go

to

> > the gym.

> >

> > and it's not really about what my friend said - that's NOT the

> issue -

> > and she's NOT jealous - she's lost 40 pounds in the past year - so

> > it's not about that.

> >

> > it's about me. and why am i even bothering to stick with this?

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i hadn't weighed in almost 5 months - did you read that part? i know

that it is damaging.

i just felt like i needed to know - i was hoping that i'd show a loss.

i needed to feel like i had made some progress since: my clothes

haven't changed AND my measurements haven't changed (except maybe my

thighs have gotten a little bit bigger).

the only difference is that i am stronger.

and that seems to be it.

things i've done:

i've added extra cardio.

i've kept track of my food on fitday.

i've decreased high GI carbs.

i've written down my goals and joined about 4 online communities where

i post my food and excercise.

i never drink except on free days and even then hardly at all.

i drink all my water

i hit my 10's

i never even go anywhere because it's too stressful for me to deal

with " real " food choices.

i'm not trying to be melodramatic, really i'm just feeling really sad

and sorry for myself and not sure what to do.

the only thing i can think to do now is to completely give up free

day. and that's the only reason i have even been able to stick with

this plan in the first place.

i know you don't know me, or know the struggles that i have had with

my body image and self worth. but this feels like sh*t. and i am so

tempted to just give up - because what's the point anyway?

whatever- i don't need another response - and i really hope you don't

read this as an attack on you in anyway - i am just feeling really

defeated and sorry for myself.

thanks for the pep talk though!

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okay, last one-

take a break from thinking about this. you know what- it DOESNT matter.

not to anyone but you. if you cant forgive yourself right now, that's

fine. but why not go get some distance from it, and try coming back to

it later? maybe go and try to find some perspective. because life is

big, and this stuff, it's only as big as we make it.

to the people who care about you, you are still a complete human being.

you're not a measurement or a number- you're anna. not different than

you were last week. you're their friend, and what you weigh doesnt

matter. to the people at your job, to the people on the street- this

stuff is nonexistant. it's only huge to you. so disengage some meaning

from it for a little while.

ask the people you trust to tell you something kind. give yourself a spa

day. leave work, go to the beach or somewhere that makes you feel free

and happy and whole and is the last possible place you think about your

body. getcher hair did, getcher nails done. turn the music up loud and

dance in your living room. go for a long drive. do something NICE for

you that reminds you that you're awesome all the time, no matter what

your scale (or your friend) says. think about all this later.

when you're friends are letting you down you've got to kick in and be

your own friend.

-cera

annaklahr wrote:

>i hadn't weighed in almost 5 months - did you read that part? i know

>that it is damaging.

>

>i just felt like i needed to know - i was hoping that i'd show a loss.

> i needed to feel like i had made some progress since: my clothes

>haven't changed AND my measurements haven't changed (except maybe my

>thighs have gotten a little bit bigger).

>

>the only difference is that i am stronger.

>and that seems to be it.

>

>things i've done:

>

>i've added extra cardio.

>i've kept track of my food on fitday.

>i've decreased high GI carbs.

>i've written down my goals and joined about 4 online communities where

>i post my food and excercise.

>i never drink except on free days and even then hardly at all.

>i drink all my water

>i hit my 10's

>i never even go anywhere because it's too stressful for me to deal

>with " real " food choices.

>

>i'm not trying to be melodramatic, really i'm just feeling really sad

>and sorry for myself and not sure what to do.

>

>the only thing i can think to do now is to completely give up free

>day. and that's the only reason i have even been able to stick with

>this plan in the first place.

>

>i know you don't know me, or know the struggles that i have had with

>my body image and self worth. but this feels like sh*t. and i am so

>tempted to just give up - because what's the point anyway?

>

>whatever- i don't need another response - and i really hope you don't

>read this as an attack on you in anyway - i am just feeling really

>defeated and sorry for myself.

>

>thanks for the pep talk though!

>

>

>

>

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> > i know you don't know me, or know the struggles that i have had

with my body image and self worth. but this feels like sh*t. and i am

so tempted to just give up - because what's the point anyway?

>

> whatever- i don't need another response - and i really hope you

don't read this as an attack on you in anyway - i am just feeling

really defeated and sorry for myself.

>

I think you should allow yourself to feel this way. It is ok to be

sad, mad, angry, as well as happy, elated, exuberant, etc. It is ok

to want to be in better shape, weigh less, look better, be " x " right

at this moment and be frustrated that we aren't there yet. Sometimes

we just need to vent, get it out, etc.

And you have worked hard at this so really be sure to give yourself

credit for the positive things you have done. I think you just need

some mental time to work through this, get the frustration out.

Colleen

PS Those are the days I find myself popping a taebo tape in and

pretending I'm kicking my ex's butt!

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Try to take a longer term view of the whole thing. Do BFL as

prescribed and " forget about it " for awhile. If you obsess over each

tiny failure you will grind to a halt. Rather, figure out how those

things could have been avoided(don't use the scale or whatever).

After a couple of months reassess your progress. If you have been

doing BFL without any major detours a difference will be seen. It is

kind of like watching a pot boil. It takes forever, but if you go

fold clothes for a minute the next thing you know the water is

boiling like mad. Nothing is going to work in the short term anyway.

And don't do diet pills. There's no sense in making any undertaker

richer sooner than you have to.

Stasia

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--- Whoa!!!!!!!! I am printing this out Stasia!!!!! where did you

come up with this analogy? it is great! wowness....I needed to hear

this on this morning! thanks for posting this even though it is for

..you never know what you will get from a post!

Kathi

In , " S Bachrach "

<s_bachrach@y...> wrote:

>

> Try to take a longer term view of the whole thing. Do BFL as

> prescribed and " forget about it " for awhile. If you obsess over

each

> tiny failure you will grind to a halt. Rather, figure out how those

> things could have been avoided(don't use the scale or whatever).

> After a couple of months reassess your progress. If you have been

> doing BFL without any major detours a difference will be seen. It

is

> kind of like watching a pot boil. It takes forever, but if you go

> fold clothes for a minute the next thing you know the water is

> boiling like mad. Nothing is going to work in the short term

anyway.

> And don't do diet pills. There's no sense in making any undertaker

> richer sooner than you have to.

>

> Stasia

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