Re: How do you start/How do you go on?

[Guest guest]

I like the pool analigy (sp?)I jumped right in! bought a bunch of

weights & a bench etc. I took my 'bad food' and hid it. except for Dr

Pepper. Boy was I additced (I know, I know, shut up about the Dr

pepper already, your getting tired of hearing about it)I don't know

which is better, toe dipping or jumping. I think it depends on the

person. If you are use to 'dieting' and working out -Jump. But if

you have never 'dieted' or worked out then jumping might freak you

out physicaly & mentaly. I have been on both side of the pool. (HEHE)

I was an active kid, marching bad, track, & hyper (That burns fat -

don't it?) Then I joined the Army Guard, so I was really active

there. Then I got lazy & fat. Didn't work out or eat right for about

10 years. Gained a 100 lbs.

Money- no need for a gym, you can use a soup can, milk jug, etc. I

saw a website about this one time, it was soo cool they were using

things they already have. Jump rope & side walks are inexpencive

cardio. A padded coffee table double as a bench. There was one BFL

Champion that did it with a few dumbells & a bench.

Injury - Been there done that!!! Hip still hurts from Feburarys

squat/lunge marathon. I don't know what I was thinking!! Never done

either of then before so why did I think I could do all 5 sets of

each in one day? Should have toe dipped. : )

Dani W

[Guest guest]

I like the pool analigy (sp?)I jumped right in! bought a bunch of

weights & a bench etc. I took my 'bad food' and hid it. except for Dr

Pepper. Boy was I additced (I know, I know, shut up about the Dr

pepper already, your getting tired of hearing about it)I don't know

which is better, toe dipping or jumping. I think it depends on the

person. If you are use to 'dieting' and working out -Jump. But if

you have never 'dieted' or worked out then jumping might freak you

out physicaly & mentaly. I have been on both side of the pool. (HEHE)

I was an active kid, marching bad, track, & hyper (That burns fat -

don't it?) Then I joined the Army Guard, so I was really active

there. Then I got lazy & fat. Didn't work out or eat right for about

10 years. Gained a 100 lbs.

Money- no need for a gym, you can use a soup can, milk jug, etc. I

saw a website about this one time, it was soo cool they were using

things they already have. Jump rope & side walks are inexpencive

cardio. A padded coffee table double as a bench. There was one BFL

Champion that did it with a few dumbells & a bench.

Injury - Been there done that!!! Hip still hurts from Feburarys

squat/lunge marathon. I don't know what I was thinking!! Never done

either of then before so why did I think I could do all 5 sets of

each in one day? Should have toe dipped. : )

Dani W

[Guest guest]

I was a big exerciser but had never dieted before in my life, not on

purpose.

I have a related question -- how much of the program do you think is

eating frequently with (more or less) the right foods in (more or

less) the right proportions? How much is regular (intense enough)

cardio + correct weight training?

I'm of the opinion that those two biggies are 85-90% of the way

there for me. I try not to sweat the details so much (5 vs 6 meals,

HIIT vs regular heart-rate-high-enough cardio, supplements, one free

day vs two free meals a week, etc).

What do you think?

> I like the pool analigy (sp?)I jumped right in! bought a bunch of

> weights & a bench etc. I took my 'bad food' and hid it. except for

Dr

> Pepper. Boy was I additced (I know, I know, shut up about the Dr

> pepper already, your getting tired of hearing about it)I don't

know

> which is better, toe dipping or jumping. I think it depends on the

> person. If you are use to 'dieting' and working out -Jump. But if

> you have never 'dieted' or worked out then jumping might freak you

> out physicaly & mentaly. I have been on both side of the pool.

(HEHE)

[Guest guest]

I think it all works together.

I believe in the free day vs 2 free meals a week. The point of the

free day is to rev up your metabolism. Don't know if that can be done

in 2 meals a week. Besides that I know when free day is from the

time I get up on Sat till I go to bed on Sat. If I had 2 meals in the

week I could extend them by adding extra food or extra meals.

Just my 2 cents

Dani W

> I was a big exerciser but had never dieted before in my life, not

on

> purpose.

>

> I have a related question -- how much of the program do you think

is

> eating frequently with (more or less) the right foods in (more or

> less) the right proportions? How much is regular (intense enough)

> cardio + correct weight training?

>

> I'm of the opinion that those two biggies are 85-90% of the way

> there for me. I try not to sweat the details so much (5 vs 6 meals,

> HIIT vs regular heart-rate-high-enough cardio, supplements, one

free

> day vs two free meals a week, etc).

>

> What do you think?

[Guest guest]

Here's where I reveal even more cheating and how I count calories

(palm/fist is hard! Maybe if you have beefy goon hands like Bill

...)

My clean food days are around 1400-1600 calories. My days with free

meals are 2000-2200 calories (my free meals are usually dinners out,

or parties or something like that). According to the Hussman site,

that works out to about the 1.2 X BMR to 1.6X BMR range he has

there. And that's a good metabolic kick in the pants without

destroying my caloric deficit for the week.

Here's another place where I think people are different - after a

whole free day I don't think I'd want to go back the next day. A

free meal around a special event, now that's more my style. I like

your wake-up to bedtime startegy, though, instead of 24 hours (oh,

after midnight on Friday! Time to start the cocktails! might be my

approach to a free day, and that would be not good for me )

I also think it's clear that some people will have to work very hard

and be strict to get results whereas others (like my boyfriend) can

run 4X a week, eat a diet of tootsie roll pops and doritos and be

lean and muscular with low cholesterol.

> > I was a big exerciser but had never dieted before in my life,

not

> on

> > purpose.

> >

> > I have a related question -- how much of the program do you

think

> is

> > eating frequently with (more or less) the right foods in (more

or

> > less) the right proportions? How much is regular (intense

enough)

> > cardio + correct weight training?

> >

> > I'm of the opinion that those two biggies are 85-90% of the way

> > there for me. I try not to sweat the details so much (5 vs 6

meals,

> > HIIT vs regular heart-rate-high-enough cardio, supplements, one

> free

> > day vs two free meals a week, etc).

> >

> > What do you think?

[Guest guest]

Here's where I reveal even more cheating and how I count calories

(palm/fist is hard! Maybe if you have beefy goon hands like Bill

...)

My clean food days are around 1400-1600 calories. My days with free

meals are 2000-2200 calories (my free meals are usually dinners out,

or parties or something like that). According to the Hussman site,

that works out to about the 1.2 X BMR to 1.6X BMR range he has

there. And that's a good metabolic kick in the pants without

destroying my caloric deficit for the week.

Here's another place where I think people are different - after a

whole free day I don't think I'd want to go back the next day. A

free meal around a special event, now that's more my style. I like

your wake-up to bedtime startegy, though, instead of 24 hours (oh,

after midnight on Friday! Time to start the cocktails! might be my

approach to a free day, and that would be not good for me )

I also think it's clear that some people will have to work very hard

and be strict to get results whereas others (like my boyfriend) can

run 4X a week, eat a diet of tootsie roll pops and doritos and be

lean and muscular with low cholesterol.

> > I was a big exerciser but had never dieted before in my life,

not

> on

> > purpose.

> >

> > I have a related question -- how much of the program do you

think

> is

> > eating frequently with (more or less) the right foods in (more

or

> > less) the right proportions? How much is regular (intense

enough)

> > cardio + correct weight training?

> >

> > I'm of the opinion that those two biggies are 85-90% of the way

> > there for me. I try not to sweat the details so much (5 vs 6

meals,

> > HIIT vs regular heart-rate-high-enough cardio, supplements, one

> free

> > day vs two free meals a week, etc).

> >

> > What do you think?

[Guest guest]

I just started and didn't look back. Now it feels normal and anything

else is not normal. I don't ever see myself eating the way I used to

again or going back to three meals a day or less.

Stasia

[Guest guest]

I jumped right in by the book all the way except for the ff cramer in

my coffee (I don't count those carbs and never have). I'm still by

the book for food and I have been doing this since the last week in

March

As for the exercise I have a weight bench and I go by the book except

that I now work my abs every time I do LB or UB. Also, I have read

Energy mag and some other to change my exercises up than the ones in

his book

Bridgette

> I've been at this BFL-ish thing for 6 weeks now. I've been

tracking

> my weight and doing a food diary for three months. I say BFL-ish

> because I don't do it by the book, but as close as I can get with

my

> lifestyle and kitchen difficulties (broken oven, freezer literally

> the size of a shoebox) and current level of poverty (lots of egg

> whites for protein, fruit liberated from the workplace, fortunately

> paid for the gym for 13 months when finances were better). Oh, and

> if I do HIIT too much I get injured, so I do more moderate cardio

5X

> a week and one session of HIIT (trying to increase that as I go

> along)

>

> I know my progress may be slower due to my variances from the

> program, but I'm willing to live with that so I can stay on it. I

> think the important stuff is:

>

> frequent, portion-controlled meals

> avoiding high-glycemic carbs much of the time

> enough lean high-quality protein

> mix of cardio and the real weight training, no shishi stuff

>

> I find the longer I go, the closer I get to the BFL way. But I

> don't think I could have started BFL at the beginning (3 months

ago)

> hard core and strict and stayed on it very long. I would have

> failed miserably.

>

> I know other people are different (thank goodness!) -- they cross

> the abyss all at once, clear the refrigerator of the bad foods, go

> for the HIIT... I'm interested in what the other women did here -

> did you go into the pool with a toe dip first or a full immersion?