Re: my very first soap siezure

[Guest guest]

Wow, you've beat me to that one, Chrissy! My last batch accelerated trace

quite a bit, but not like what you had. I don't know for sure if that's

seizing or not. I kind of thought seizing was when the soap suddenly got

hard. It does sound like a fragrance problem, though.

I'd probably try putting it in the oven to see what happens if it were my

batch. I don't think it would hurt.

Yes, it only happens on double batches with the last of one of your main

oils. LOL

Beth Byrne

http://www.SoapAndGarden.com

Soap, get the real thing!

http://www.Saponifier.com

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:37 PM, koalas_boutique

<Koalas_boutique@...>wrote:

>

>

> AUCK i am quite certain i finally discovered a soap siezure. I have been

> lucky thus far. I have made countless batches of soap with only 2 misshaps,

> one where my oils where too hot and volcanoed out of the mold when i was in

> the learning stages of soap (my first batch using hard oils) and one where i

> forgot an oil or 2 and had to rebatch.and now this.

>

> All was fine, it traced lightly i added my FO and colorant and it got

> really runny then BAM cottage cheese. litteraly it looked like cottage

> cheese, blue cottage cheese. I assume it was a sieezure. not sure what to do

> i kind of stired it a bit more then scooped it into a mold and popped online

> to see what I could do or should have done.

>

> website says i could have waited for gel then stir and mold or should

> rebatch. I smooshed it in a slab mold good and covered it and will check on

> it. maybe i can mush it together better as it gels. i wonder if putting it

> in the oven on low might help. I was making a spa bar with sea salt on the

> bottom of the mold so i don't know how it will work out.

>

> Darn it it was a double batch too. i will be making sure my oils are all

> CP safe from now on. well it was bound to happen sometime i guess. but

> why on a double batch when i am now out of palm oil.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

yeah, i left one insulated on the counter and the other I placed in the oven. I

can't really say for sure if either really gelled I know the one on the counter

did not. the one in the oven i guess it must have gelled but it was hard to tell

really.

Both have massive oil leakage. There is probably about 1/4 of a cup in each 2 lb

mold. its a mess and now i have to figure out what to do about it.

well its prbably partically my fault as well as the FO as I was getting a bit

anxious to mix it up and my oils and lye were a bit warmer then they should have

been, but i was waiting and waiting and waiting for it to cool. it didn't trace

faster then normal until i added the FO.

So what is there to do with a mess such as this?? I have some salt mixed in so

Im not sure how that would effect a rebatch.

>

> >

> >

> > AUCK i am quite certain i finally discovered a soap siezure. I have been

> > lucky thus far. I have made countless batches of soap with only 2 misshaps,

> > one where my oils where too hot and volcanoed out of the mold when i was in

> > the learning stages of soap (my first batch using hard oils) and one where i

> > forgot an oil or 2 and had to rebatch.and now this.

> >

> > All was fine, it traced lightly i added my FO and colorant and it got

> > really runny then BAM cottage cheese. litteraly it looked like cottage

> > cheese, blue cottage cheese. I assume it was a sieezure. not sure what to do

> > i kind of stired it a bit more then scooped it into a mold and popped online

> > to see what I could do or should have done.

> >

> > website says i could have waited for gel then stir and mold or should

> > rebatch. I smooshed it in a slab mold good and covered it and will check on

> > it. maybe i can mush it together better as it gels. i wonder if putting it

> > in the oven on low might help. I was making a spa bar with sea salt on the

> > bottom of the mold so i don't know how it will work out.

> >

> > Darn it it was a double batch too. i will be making sure my oils are all

> > CP safe from now on. well it was bound to happen sometime i guess. but

> > why on a double batch when i am now out of palm oil.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ricing but that is semantics.....LOL same old, same old.

Speaking of oils - will we have an oil buy for this gathering as in the

past?

Jeanine

Jeanine's Hummingbird Soap Works

Re: my very first soap siezure

Wow, you've beat me to that one, Chrissy! My last batch accelerated trace

quite a bit, but not like what you had. I don't know for sure if that's

seizing or not. I kind of thought seizing was when the soap suddenly got

hard. It does sound like a fragrance problem, though.

I'd probably try putting it in the oven to see what happens if it were my

batch. I don't think it would hurt.

Yes, it only happens on double batches with the last of one of your main

oils. LOL

Beth Byrne

http://www.SoapAndGarden.com

Soap, get the real thing!

http://www.Saponifier.com

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:37 PM, koalas_boutique

<Koalas_boutique@...>wrote:

>

>

> AUCK i am quite certain i finally discovered a soap siezure. I have been

> lucky thus far. I have made countless batches of soap with only 2

misshaps,

> one where my oils where too hot and volcanoed out of the mold when i was

in

> the learning stages of soap (my first batch using hard oils) and one where

i

> forgot an oil or 2 and had to rebatch.and now this.

>

> All was fine, it traced lightly i added my FO and colorant and it got

> really runny then BAM cottage cheese. litteraly it looked like cottage

> cheese, blue cottage cheese. I assume it was a sieezure. not sure what to

do

> i kind of stired it a bit more then scooped it into a mold and popped

online

> to see what I could do or should have done.

>

> website says i could have waited for gel then stir and mold or should

> rebatch. I smooshed it in a slab mold good and covered it and will check

on

> it. maybe i can mush it together better as it gels. i wonder if putting it

> in the oven on low might help. I was making a spa bar with sea salt on the

> bottom of the mold so i don't know how it will work out.

>

> Darn it it was a double batch too. i will be making sure my oils are

all

> CP safe from now on. well it was bound to happen sometime i guess. but

> why on a double batch when i am now out of palm oil.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hmm. . . I have never rebatched a salt soap, but that's what I would try.

Maybe rebatch just one of them to see how it goes. It sounds like your fo

didn't allow proper emulsification.

Beth Byrne

http://www.SoapAndGarden.com

Soap, get the real thing!

http://www.Saponifier.com

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:46 AM, koalas_boutique

<Koalas_boutique@...>wrote:

>

>

> yeah, i left one insulated on the counter and the other I placed in the

> oven. I can't really say for sure if either really gelled I know the one on

> the counter did not. the one in the oven i guess it must have gelled but it

> was hard to tell really.

>

> Both have massive oil leakage. There is probably about 1/4 of a cup in each

> 2 lb mold. its a mess and now i have to figure out what to do about it.

>

> well its prbably partically my fault as well as the FO as I was getting a

> bit anxious to mix it up and my oils and lye were a bit warmer then they

> should have been, but i was waiting and waiting and waiting for it to cool.

> it didn't trace faster then normal until i added the FO.

>

> So what is there to do with a mess such as this?? I have some salt mixed in

> so Im not sure how that would effect a rebatch.

>

>

> -

>

[Guest guest]

Is that what ricing is? I've heard about it, but have been very fortunate,

I guess, not to have experienced it.

Sure, we'll have an oil buy.

Beth Byrne

http://www.SoapAndGarden.com

Soap, get the real thing!

http://www.Saponifier.com

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Jeanine Van Voorhees <jlv40@...>wrote:

>

>

> Ricing but that is semantics.....LOL same old, same old.

>

> Speaking of oils - will we have an oil buy for this gathering as in the

> past?

>

> Jeanine

>

> Jeanine's Hummingbird Soap Works

>

>

> Re: my very first soap siezure

>

> Wow, you've beat me to that one, Chrissy! My last batch accelerated trace

> quite a bit, but not like what you had. I don't know for sure if that's

> seizing or not. I kind of thought seizing was when the soap suddenly got

> hard. It does sound like a fragrance problem, though.

>

> I'd probably try putting it in the oven to see what happens if it were my

> batch. I don't think it would hurt.

>

> Yes, it only happens on double batches with the last of one of your main

> oils. LOL

>

> Beth Byrne

> http://www.SoapAndGarden.com

> Soap, get the real thing!

> http://www.Saponifier.com

>

> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:37 PM, koalas_boutique

> <Koalas_boutique@... <Koalas_boutique%40>>wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > AUCK i am quite certain i finally discovered a soap siezure. I have been

> > lucky thus far. I have made countless batches of soap with only 2

> misshaps,

> > one where my oils where too hot and volcanoed out of the mold when i was

> in

> > the learning stages of soap (my first batch using hard oils) and one

> where

> i

> > forgot an oil or 2 and had to rebatch.and now this.

> >

> > All was fine, it traced lightly i added my FO and colorant and it got

> > really runny then BAM cottage cheese. litteraly it looked like cottage

> > cheese, blue cottage cheese. I assume it was a sieezure. not sure what to

> do

> > i kind of stired it a bit more then scooped it into a mold and popped

> online

> > to see what I could do or should have done.

> >

> > website says i could have waited for gel then stir and mold or should

> > rebatch. I smooshed it in a slab mold good and covered it and will check

> on

> > it. maybe i can mush it together better as it gels. i wonder if putting

> it

> > in the oven on low might help. I was making a spa bar with sea salt on

> the

> > bottom of the mold so i don't know how it will work out.

> >

> > Darn it it was a double batch too. i will be making sure my oils are

> all

> > CP safe from now on. well it was bound to happen sometime i guess. but

> > why on a double batch when i am now out of palm oil.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, pot looks like a large batch of rice pudding. Goes downhill from

there.

Looking forward to the oil. Thanks.

Jeanine

Jeanine's Hummingbird Soap Works

Re: my very first soap siezure

Is that what ricing is? I've heard about it, but have been very fortunate,

I guess, not to have experienced it.

Sure, we'll have an oil buy.

Beth Byrne

http://www.SoapAndGarden.com

Soap, get the real thing!

http://www.Saponifier.com

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Jeanine Van Voorhees

<jlv40@...>wrote:

>

>

> Ricing but that is semantics.....LOL same old, same old.

>

> Speaking of oils - will we have an oil buy for this gathering as in the

> past?

>

> Jeanine

>

> Jeanine's Hummingbird Soap Works

>

>

>.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

ummm.. you should of added more water to it and then mixed till smooth, and then

poured into your molds.

This brought memories of when I did the swirl demo one year.

Cheryl

the three dog kitchen

[Guest guest]

I always keep boiling water ready at hand when I am using a FO that is

" temper mental " . Add in boiling water a little at a time, and keep mixing..

you will obviously end up with a little larger batch, but it saves it every

time.

becky