[TreatingAutism-Biomedical]Moira/was: Re: Long - Mandi's Memory of Hg Pro...

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In a message dated 29/10/2005 16:14:19 GMT Daylight Time, Ladyshrink111@... writes:

Didn't mean Andy was ousted from ck2 group, but from the community. Although, Anita saw on Jb's site that Andy is listed among the big players, although last on the list, and his book also. I think, but please correct me if I am wrong, this is a recent development.

>>No Andy has always been on that list, and always at the end LOL

Mandi x

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> Thank you Moria. I did read a number of those people when I was

> first investigating chelation. None of it is very clear to me

right

> now, months later. Maybe the whole redistribution thing is simply

> what it comes down to for me. I can see that there would be

> difference of opinion on supplements, when the gut is ready, etc.

> But redistribution is pretty black and white. It's either

happening

> or not. And if it is, yikes.

I'm not sure if the other 'schools' think there is

redistribution. I doubt if they use that word, certainly.

You and I may see if as redistribution, and that seems

reasonable and accurate to me, but if you've 'learned'

a different theory, well, I don't know if it would even

come across as " worse mercury poisoning " . Maybe, or

maybe not.

Tell me, do the parents of the child who is worse, who is now

slurring speech, do they call that " worse mercury poisoning " ?

Maybe they just think it is a weird fluke regression---

suddenly their kid got worse. Maybe they see it as relating

to the chelation, but do they see it as " redistribution " ?

I would not bet one way or another on the answer here,

but I think the odds are a bit in favor of some other idea

(other than redistribution).

> I think reading some of the worst case scenario reports that I did

> clarified things pretty quickly for me: if someone wasn't talking

> about the possibility of redistribution and how to avoid it, they

> weren't selling me on their protocol.

I actaully see it SORT OF like this. If someone is just telling

me how great this product/protocol has been for <whoever>

(themself, their kid, 6 customers, etc), I generally am not

impressed. I'm like " that is interesting, tell me the

bad cases " . Because half the picture is " not it " for me.

I do believe the " good " cases, and I'm happy, and I think

that is real and great, sometimes these are very wonderful

moving stories --- but it is not the whole

picture, and I think I'm being sold a bill of goods.

> I guess it just still seems

> impossible for me to believe that DAN!, who really have done

wonders

> for my son in some ways, doesn't seem to address this. A lot of

> cognitive dissonance here.

I find it sad, and certainly unfortunate. But I feel that

way about a lot of things, so I don't " ponder " about it

very much. I guess I'm kind of a skeptical or bitter

outlook on many things. The people who run DAMS (a non-profit

anti-amalgam group) also have no love for Andy's protocol,

and it is too bad. I don't know what to say, other than

this sort of thing is common. I am also disturbed by

the AIDS organizations that are against ozone (which has

helped a number of people recover from AIDS, and clearly

kills the HIV virus in tests.) Different topic, but

there it goes. Don't get me going, I'll go on about

cancer and all the other diseases that people don't get

reasonable treatments for. It's tragic, often.

At least it seems tragic to me.

Actually, as far as DAN goes, and actually a lot of these

groups, the part that seems wildly inappropriate or " wrong "

to me is that they don't even invite Andy to come.

That seems just wildly bad to me. It is not

even that they invited him once, then rejected his theory

and didn't ask him back. They NEVER invited him.

And I assume the same probably applies to 10 or 20 other

experts out there: I don't think DAN invites these people

to the think tank. In fact, I don't have any real idea

how they decide who to invite, but it does seem to be

kind of a social group sort of a thing. Maybe there is

some sense to it that I don't see.... but I don't see it.

Ask me too what I think about people supposedly looking for

cancer " cures " who do not interview, investigate or try to

reproduce the thousands of people who have had cancer

go away.

>

> Thanks again for taking the time to help me.

well, not clear I was any real " help " here LOL, but you're

welcome anyhow.

Moria

> Anita

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