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Hi Mike,

My second trip to UCI is tomorrow, Monday, to go through more testing and

hopefully see where he is on their scales 's one of their oldest kids

(15) and his receptive language is pretty high functioning although he can't

communicate too well. I'm really happy to see this study being done and very

interested in the MRI imaging. I sure hope can get through it, since

he can't be sedated due to anesthesia allergies.

Have you learned anything yet?

(Mom to 15, DS/ASD)

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Whoa!

Tied up in my world at this time and busy. So, I missed an

interesting message going on here. Do stay posted with this, I'm

totally " awe " on this as I too enjoy whats being done. Luck on your

trip and may all go well with , .

Welcome Mike! Glad to have you aboard. I for one do not want to miss

out on any new research or testing as my son is 13. Definitely not

closing my eyes or ears anymore. Always learning here. Thanks guys

for sharing.

Irma,13,DS/ASD

> Hi Mike,

>

> My second trip to UCI is tomorrow, Monday, to go through more

testing and

> hopefully see where he is on their scales 's one of their

oldest kids

> (15) and his receptive language is pretty high functioning although

he can't

> communicate too well. I'm really happy to see this study being

done and very

> interested in the MRI imaging. I sure hope can get through

it, since

> he can't be sedated due to anesthesia allergies.

>

> Have you learned anything yet?

> (Mom to 15, DS/ASD)

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Bradford wrote:

The only other thing that didn't seem quite right

was when one of the CSI people commented " they're not disabled, they're

just short " .

Actually, that's not quite what he said -- I remembered it because it struck

me -- he said, " Being a dwarf doesn't mean you're disabled, it just means

you're short. " And that was after another guy had commented about how the

suicide rate was higher in the disabled community.

I thought, in the context, it was a great way of pointing out to people that

dwarfism itself is not automatically a disability, just a fact of height.

I thought it was a really positive statement about how dwarfs can be normal

people who just happen to be short.

Obviously, people can interpret things differently; what saw as

possibly negative I, as an average height mom of an LP daughter, saw as

truly positive education.

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On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Hemly wrote:

> Actually, that's not quite what he said -- I remembered it because it struck

> me -- he said, " Being a dwarf doesn't mean you're disabled, it just means

> you're short. " And that was after another guy had commented about how the

> suicide rate was higher in the disabled community.

>

> I thought, in the context, it was a great way of pointing out to people that

> dwarfism itself is not automatically a disability, just a fact of height.

That is an excellent point and I hadn't considered it that way. Thanks for

pointing this out.

I only brought it up because it's true that all types of dwarfism carry

with them a higher potential for disabling conditions. Some of these may

not appear until later in life, but they are risks that we all have to

live with.

Also, consider that for people of extreme short stature (i.e. 3'6 " and

under, like myself) it could be argued that their height alone is a

disabling condition. I cannot reach the sinks in public restrooms, for

example, or drive without special equipment. I guess it all depends on

one's definition of " disabled " . I consider most of us disabled because we

require a significant amount of adaptation to function in the " average "

world. These adaptations cost money, and if we can get many of them

subsidized by programs for the " disabled " , then it's perfectly logical for

us to consider ourselves as such.

My concern over the comment " being a dwarf doesn't mean you're disabled,

it just means you're short " is, what if I run into an average-sized person

who refuses to permit me the status of " disabled " because he heard this on

CSI? For example, if I am trying to buy tickets for a concert or a

sporting event, and I ask for " disabled " seating?

Dave

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I don't disagree that most forms of dwarfism bring disabling conditions --

but I also don't think people are going to argue when you need adaptations,

since it's often very obvious that they're necessary. It's just good for

people to not automatically think of any group of people as automatically

deserving of pity -- I know my daughter nearly choked last year when an

elderly gentleman spent five minutes telling her how " brave " she is. Like

she has a choice???

The point I was trying to make was that I felt that remark was very

humanizing, suggesting people should view a dwarf as a person first rather

than just the height of their head. And in the context it was made, I

thought it made that point very well.

RE: Digest Number 1527

On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Hemly wrote:

> Actually, that's not quite what he said -- I remembered it because it

struck

> me -- he said, " Being a dwarf doesn't mean you're disabled, it just means

> you're short. " And that was after another guy had commented about how the

> suicide rate was higher in the disabled community.

>

> I thought, in the context, it was a great way of pointing out to people

that

> dwarfism itself is not automatically a disability, just a fact of height.

That is an excellent point and I hadn't considered it that way. Thanks for

pointing this out.

I only brought it up because it's true that all types of dwarfism carry

with them a higher potential for disabling conditions. Some of these may

not appear until later in life, but they are risks that we all have to

live with.

Also, consider that for people of extreme short stature (i.e. 3'6 " and

under, like myself) it could be argued that their height alone is a

disabling condition. I cannot reach the sinks in public restrooms, for

example, or drive without special equipment. I guess it all depends on

one's definition of " disabled " . I consider most of us disabled because we

require a significant amount of adaptation to function in the " average "

world. These adaptations cost money, and if we can get many of them

subsidized by programs for the " disabled " , then it's perfectly logical for

us to consider ourselves as such.

My concern over the comment " being a dwarf doesn't mean you're disabled,

it just means you're short " is, what if I run into an average-sized person

who refuses to permit me the status of " disabled " because he heard this on

CSI? For example, if I am trying to buy tickets for a concert or a

sporting event, and I ask for " disabled " seating?

Dave

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