Re: Pregnancy/childbirth on NT

[Guest guest]

> I would love to hear about anyone's experience with having a child

> while eating an NT type of diet. I'm a few months pregnant with my

> first child and am so excited to be eating this way. I've read

> Weston Price's book and Pottenger's also, and know that nutrition

> during pregnancy can have a profound affect on the child's

> development and the ease of the birth/recovery of the mother. I'd

> love to hear other mother's experiences.....

>

Hi Becky,

I'm coming out of lurkdom to take a crack at your question,

although I'm sure others here will have better input, as I've never

eaten strictly NT (i.e. only foods from the " Nourishing Traditional

Foods " category ). I learned about NT about 5 1/2 years ago, and

starting changing my diet before I ever got pregnant with my 3rd

child (mainly throwing all soy products and unhealthy fats, for

starters). I already ate pretty well--whole wheat, brown rice,

organic meats/chicken, lots of vegetables, fruits, barleygreen, and

carrot/veg juice (so I wasn't starting the NT diet from the S.A.D.).

Anyway, during that pregnancy I ate lots of soaked-overnight-

spelt/wheat-biscuits, pre-soaked oatmeal, sprouted wheat bread from

Shiloh farms, took cod liver oil & evening primrose oil and

barleygreen, ate lots of salads & vegetables, butter, whole milk

yogurt, high quality meats, etc...And for the most part felt really

great! The birth went really well (I had a homebirth), the midwife

remarked that she rarely saw a woman lose so little blood during

birth, the baby was perfectly healthy, *and* in spite of having a

November baby (when all the " bugs " are going around) and getting very

little sleep for the first 2 months, I never got sick and recovered

really well.

So, this is just my personal experience, for whatever it's worth!

P.S. I do need to confess to the occasional donut from Shipley's and

a few late night chocolate ice cream binges (hey, it was

the " howler's " organic kind!!), and even in spite of those sporadic

nutritional " dips " , everything went great!

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I'm pregnant with my 5th child (3rd while eating an NT type diet) . My

personal experience as far as differences go is that my last 2 children were

very

calm infants.

I had to make a few dietary adjustments with my diet as far as nursing

went(one was sensitive to dairy except for butter) but we never went through the

pain of teething, crying. sleepless nights, for no reason etc.. etc.. Quite a

difference from my first two who were macrobiotic the first 3 years of their

life.

As far sa sbooks go, that's a good question. I've read most of the

alternative birthing books but none really address what you might be looking

for. There

was one book I read years ago, Childbirth Wisdom or something like that by

Judith Glodsmith.

Hmm.. I'l try to think of some more.

I'll have to look for Nature's Children, I thought that was a raw foodist

book?

[Guest guest]

Congratulations Becky!

I basically started eating an NT diet when I found out I was

pregnant for #6. Therefore, I was probably already a couple of

months pg by then. Seth is the biggest and healthiest baby I've

ever had (9 lbs. 10 oz. resulted in a c-section). He has never been

sick and is 8 1/2 months old now. However, he was born with

hypospadias and just had that repaired on Wednesday. He went

through the surgery well and you'd never know he's had surgery, as

he's still his happy self. I feed him the NT formula and he's done

extremely well on it, maybe to well...he's 27 lbs. He's not the

greatest sleeper though. Even when I was pg he'd have me up between

2:00 - 3:00 am and he still does this, which drives us crazy.

Otherwise, he rarely cries and is such a good and happy baby.

I don't know of any pregnancy books in this regard, but there

is one on child rearing that is one of my favorites. It's entitled;

The Continuum Concept, In Search of Happiness Lost by Jean

Liedloff. You can find it under child care/anthropology and I'd say

it's one of those must reads books for parents.

Be well and enjoy your pregnancy!

Robin

P.S. I don't know if you've thought about home birth, but of all my

pregnancies I liked the home birthing experiences the best. A

birthing pool is the greatest thing to be in during labor!! I'd

never want to be without one ever again!

> I would love to hear about anyone's experience with having a child

> while eating an NT type of diet. I'm a few months pregnant with

my

> first child and am so excited to be eating this way. I've read

> Weston Price's book and Pottenger's also, and know that nutrition

> during pregnancy can have a profound affect on the child's

> development and the ease of the birth/recovery of the mother. I'd

> love to hear other mother's experiences.....

>

> Also, I'm interested in knowing about any books out there that

deal

> with pregnancy/childbirth from an NT perspective. Or any books

that

> discuss how more primitive cultures experienced childbirth. One

good

> one I've found so far is Nature's children, by tte de

Bairacli

> Levy. She talks about the Gypsies and the ease of their births

and

> how to raise children more naturally. Any other good books out

> there??

>

> Becky

[Guest guest]

Hello, I don't post much on here, but I gave birth recently (3.5

months ago) and used an NT type diet before and during pg. This was

my second child, and with the first I was on a really high carb,

mostly wheat, and moderately high in fat diet. I was trying to eat

whole foods but ended up drinking 2 quarts of reduced fat, " lactaid "

milk a day because that was all the liquid I could keep down. I had

really bad all-day sickness for 9 months. Now, with this second

pregnancy I was only vaguely sick for a week or two. I also had

really bad heartburn with the first pg, but none with the second pg,

as long as I ate no starch whatsoever. Anyway, my diet for this

recent pg was a grain/starch free diet for the most part. It was

also higher in fat, but if I had to do it over again, I would have

eaten even more fat than I did. Lots of animal fat seems to help

with energy and strength, at least for me. Also my first child is

really allergic to pasteurized dairy and glutenous grains now,

probably because that was my main food items during pregnancy with

her.

As for having an easier birth, well, the birth was very

difficult. The baby was breech, so it made for a very long, drawn

out labor, although pushing her out was very quick and easy. There

were no real complications however, and she is growing well, nursing

well and is a very calm, content (usually) baby. My first had

horrible colic for a whole year!

I second _The Continuum Concept_ by Liedloff as a good parenting

philosophy book. Hope this helps!

Rebekah

> I would love to hear about anyone's experience with having a child

> while eating an NT type of diet. I'm a few months pregnant with my

> first child and am so excited to be eating this way. I've read

> Weston Price's book and Pottenger's also, and know that nutrition

> during pregnancy can have a profound affect on the child's

> development and the ease of the birth/recovery of the mother. I'd

> love to hear other mother's experiences.....

>

> Also, I'm interested in knowing about any books out there that deal

> with pregnancy/childbirth from an NT perspective. Or any books

that

> discuss how more primitive cultures experienced childbirth. One

good

> one I've found so far is Nature's children, by tte de Bairacli

> Levy. She talks about the Gypsies and the ease of their births and

> how to raise children more naturally. Any other good books out

> there??

>

> Becky

[Guest guest]

>The Continuum Concept, In Search of Happiness Lost by Jean

>Liedloff. You can find it under child care/anthropology and I'd say

>it's one of those must reads books for parents.

I second that! I think everyone considering having a baby

should read that book. And all employers too! I changed

my work situation based on that book, and THAT made

a huge difference in our kids.

Another good one is " The Baby Book " -- a huge book, but

it covers stuff like sleeping with your baby, using a sling

(we loved our sling!). The authors are both doctors,

and have 10 kids.

-- Heidi

>

[Guest guest]

> Another good one is " The Baby Book " -- a huge book, but

> it covers stuff like sleeping with your baby, using a sling

> (we loved our sling!). The authors are both doctors,

> and have 10 kids.

One doctor, one nurse, actually, and it's the closest thing you'll ever

get to a manual for a baby.

Lynn S.

-----

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The New Homemaker: http://www.newhomemaker.com/

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[Guest guest]

Not about pregnancy but such a agreat book....

I recommend _Taking Charge of Your Child's Health_ by Wootan M.D.

He and his wife had seven children or so, all home birthed, breastfed, not

vaccinated. He has a section on how things should look/be when healthy

(such as ears, throat, eyes, but lots more) and then a huge section on

common childhood illnesses, disease, and injuries, and what to do about

them. Not everything of course can be handled at home, but with this book

you'll be well informed before hitting the emergency room should that be

needed.

I'll also chime in to say homebirth is great (all three of mine, including

the last one at 11 pounds), and cosleeping is so peaceful and lovely. My

youngest, at 23 months, will start to get upset in her sleep, reach out and

touch me, and just relax back into peaceful sleep.

I can't speak about NT making birth easier as I hadn't been exposed to it

back then, but I do believe that if I'd been eating better my last one

wouldn't have been so HUGE. : ) My best advice for having a great birth

(besides eating well!) is to decide what you want and take time throughout

the entire pregnancy to visualize it, and write about it. Oh wait, in a tie

with that would have to be doing relaxation exercises throughout the

pregnancy. If your mate or a friend can work with you during the pregnancy,

talking you through relaxation and relieving tension, you may find as I did

that just them starting in on it brought instant relaxation during the

birth. (That was the first birth where my husband and I had done relaxation

exercises together almost every day during the last trimester.)

Congrats!

: )

Rhea

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing that! I'm planning a homebirth as well.

I've been feeling really good so far, especially if I eat my brewer's

yeast and liver! Luckily lamb liver has not repulsed my pregnancy

taste buds yet.

Becky

> Hi Becky,

> I'm coming out of lurkdom to take a crack at your question,

> although I'm sure others here will have better input, as I've never

> eaten strictly NT (i.e. only foods from the " Nourishing Traditional

> Foods " category ). I learned about NT about 5 1/2 years ago, and

> starting changing my diet before I ever got pregnant with my 3rd

> child (mainly throwing all soy products and unhealthy fats, for

> starters). I already ate pretty well--whole wheat, brown rice,

> organic meats/chicken, lots of vegetables, fruits, barleygreen, and

> carrot/veg juice (so I wasn't starting the NT diet from the S.A.D.).

> Anyway, during that pregnancy I ate lots of soaked-overnight-

> spelt/wheat-biscuits, pre-soaked oatmeal, sprouted wheat bread from

> Shiloh farms, took cod liver oil & evening primrose oil and

> barleygreen, ate lots of salads & vegetables, butter, whole milk

> yogurt, high quality meats, etc...And for the most part felt really

> great! The birth went really well (I had a homebirth), the midwife

> remarked that she rarely saw a woman lose so little blood during

> birth, the baby was perfectly healthy, *and* in spite of having a

> November baby (when all the " bugs " are going around) and getting

very

> little sleep for the first 2 months, I never got sick and recovered

> really well.

> So, this is just my personal experience, for whatever it's worth!

>

> P.S. I do need to confess to the occasional donut from Shipley's

and

> a few late night chocolate ice cream binges (hey, it was

> the " howler's " organic kind!!), and even in spite of those sporadic

> nutritional " dips " , everything went great!

[Guest guest]

The author does say that a diet of mostly raw food is ideal, but she

mainly talks about her experiences, the local Gypsies she lives with,

and how to raise children naturally using herbs and natural

remedies. She is a vegetarian, not vegan at least. I have been

using a mostly raw food diet for the majority of my pregnancy so far,

but it includes animal protein.

Thanks for sharing your experiences!

Becky

> I'll have to look for Nature's Children, I thought that was a raw

foodist

> book?

[Guest guest]

i have a friend who wants to join this group. i cannot recall how i signed on.

can someone tell me/her how to sign up? i am sending her a copy of this email.

thank u, diana

beckymauldin2001 <beckymauldin@...> wrote:The author does say that a

diet of mostly raw food is ideal, but she

mainly talks about her experiences, the local Gypsies she lives with,

and how to raise children naturally using herbs and natural

remedies. She is a vegetarian, not vegan at least. I have been

using a mostly raw food diet for the majority of my pregnancy so far,

but it includes animal protein.

Thanks for sharing your experiences!

Becky

> I'll have to look for Nature's Children, I thought that was a raw

foodist

> book?

[Guest guest]

As far as primitive child raising, try The Continuum Concept by Jean

Leidoff. It is really just a retelling of her time with a primitive tribe

(in the Amazon, I think), but she focuses on child care. It changed my

whole way of looking at children.

Pregnancy/childbirth on NT

I would love to hear about anyone's experience with having a child

while eating an NT type of diet. I'm a few months pregnant with my

first child and am so excited to be eating this way. I've read

Weston Price's book and Pottenger's also, and know that nutrition

during pregnancy can have a profound affect on the child's

development and the ease of the birth/recovery of the mother. I'd

love to hear other mother's experiences.....

Also, I'm interested in knowing about any books out there that deal

with pregnancy/childbirth from an NT perspective. Or any books that

discuss how more primitive cultures experienced childbirth. One good

one I've found so far is Nature's children, by tte de Bairacli

Levy. She talks about the Gypsies and the ease of their births and

how to raise children more naturally. Any other good books out

there??

Becky

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I skipped the prenatal vitamins/folic acid. I've had four healthy children

(all born at home and breastfed for years) and am pregnant again.

I take Brewers yeast by the tablespoon . I just eat 2 tab. chew it a bit and

swallow some water.

It really helped in the 1st trimester, now I feel I don't need as much and

only eat it a couple times a week.

And I know what you mean about the vegetarian thing (I used to be a vegan )

and on a parenting site I belong to a war was started when Price's book and NT

was brought up.

Elainie

[Guest guest]

Great to see that there are so many posts on this subject. I often

browse through another " natural parenting " kind of forum, but while I

do glean a lot of useful info, my affinity with its members usually

stops once the topic of nutrition comes up...seems the most vocal

natural-living type of people there (and in general, I've

found) " Don't eat their friends, and animals are their friends " (I

quote from someones's signature). :-)

I plan to start trying to conceive this fall (my first), and am

planning for a homebirth.

I'm curious to know how exactly you consume your brewers yeast. I

tried it in my oatmeal, but it's very bitter, and ruined my meal...

Also, I'm thinking of not taking the folic acid supplements, and

instead being sure to consume chicken (and other) livers, brewers

yeast, wheat germ, greens, etc.

Also, all the other great NT foods have been part of the repertoire

for some time now...raw milk, cream, butter, grass-fed meat, organic,

free-range eggs (which are a brilliant orange these days, I love

summer!), organic fruit & veg, the suggested spirulina

supplementation, cod liver oil, coconut oil...

(With that being said, I do partake in the occasional refined

carb/ice cream-type indulgences...but not those made with fake fats!)

Anyone else skip the prenatal folic acid/multi-vit supplementation?

Thanks.

> Thanks for sharing that! I'm planning a homebirth as well.

>

> I've been feeling really good so far, especially if I eat my

brewer's

> yeast and liver! Luckily lamb liver has not repulsed my pregnancy

> taste buds yet.

[Guest guest]

I use debittered yeast made by Solgar. It doesn't taste too bad, not

at all bitter. I've put it in smoothies or just take straight,

followed with water and food.

I had the same idea as you when I first got pregnant and that was to

get all my nutrients from foods. Well, after much research, I

decided that there was too much at stake to be my own nutritionist,

so I am taking a few good supplements. But I'm not taking any sort

of typical prenatal multiple vitamin. What I am taking is this:

Standard Process' Catalyn and Folic Acid (crushed tablets), Acerola

powder for vit c, Wheat Germ oil for E or regular vit E caps, Cod

liver oil, Butter oil, Coral Legend and Dolomite for calcium/mag. ,

Kelp for iodine and trace minerals, Floradix Iron, Brewer's yeast,

and a bit of raw liver almost every day. My nutritional needs have

soared compared to when I was not pregnant. If I slack up on the

calcium, I can feel it in my teeth. So, I think you would be very

wise to utilize natural vitamins during pregnancy. I would use a

good brand like Standard Process. And remember, you don't know

exactly how much folic acid you are consuming if you just rely on

greens. The folic acid content of veggies is reduced by sitting at

room temp for a while as well as cooking the veggies.

I also include fresh vegetable juices in my diet almost every day for

additional nutrients.

I am a very strict adherant to NT and still feel the need to

supplement. There are so few minerals in our foods as compared to

the cultures Price looked at...

Just my opinion,

Becky

> I plan to start trying to conceive this fall (my first), and am

> planning for a homebirth.

>

> I'm curious to know how exactly you consume your brewers yeast. I

> tried it in my oatmeal, but it's very bitter, and ruined my meal...

>

> Also, I'm thinking of not taking the folic acid supplements, and

> instead being sure to consume chicken (and other) livers, brewers

> yeast, wheat germ, greens, etc.

>

> Also, all the other great NT foods have been part of the repertoire

> for some time now...raw milk, cream, butter, grass-fed meat,

organic,

> free-range eggs (which are a brilliant orange these days, I love

> summer!), organic fruit & veg, the suggested spirulina

> supplementation, cod liver oil, coconut oil...

>

> (With that being said, I do partake in the occasional refined

> carb/ice cream-type indulgences...but not those made with fake

fats!)

>

> Anyone else skip the prenatal folic acid/multi-vit supplementation?

>

[Guest guest]

>>>>I use debittered yeast made by Solgar.

---->just a FWIW...solgar is a division of monsanto now, unfortunately.

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/

mailto:s.fisher22@...

[Guest guest]

Do you think you need a cal/mag supplement during pregnancy if you're

drinking a quart or more a day of raw milk? I've just found out I'm

pregnant, fairly new NT follower of a few months. I have good raw

milk sources and regularly consume a quart or more a day. I was just

wrestling with whether or not to supplement cal/mag so interested in

what folks think.

Also, I do fermented milk, veggies and beverages but wondering the

groups' thoughts on probiotic supplementation while on an NT diet

whether or not you're pregnant?

One more quick question. How much CoQ10 survives cooking? I presume

it's heat sensitive? We don't do raw meat but will medium/medium

rare preserve this enzyme for us?

Thanks,

Sharon

> I use debittered yeast made by Solgar. It doesn't taste too bad,

not

> at all bitter. I've put it in smoothies or just take straight,

> followed with water and food.

>

> I had the same idea as you when I first got pregnant and that was

to

> get all my nutrients from foods. Well, after much research, I

> decided that there was too much at stake to be my own nutritionist,

> so I am taking a few good supplements. But I'm not taking any sort

> of typical prenatal multiple vitamin. What I am taking is this:

> Standard Process' Catalyn and Folic Acid (crushed tablets), Acerola

> powder for vit c, Wheat Germ oil for E or regular vit E caps, Cod

> liver oil, Butter oil, Coral Legend and Dolomite for calcium/mag. ,

> Kelp for iodine and trace minerals, Floradix Iron, Brewer's yeast,

> and a bit of raw liver almost every day. My nutritional needs have

> soared compared to when I was not pregnant. If I slack up on the

> calcium, I can feel it in my teeth. So, I think you would be very

> wise to utilize natural vitamins during pregnancy. I would use a

> good brand like Standard Process. And remember, you don't know

> exactly how much folic acid you are consuming if you just rely on

> greens. The folic acid content of veggies is reduced by sitting at

> room temp for a while as well as cooking the veggies.

>

> I also include fresh vegetable juices in my diet almost every day

for

> additional nutrients.

>

> I am a very strict adherant to NT and still feel the need to

> supplement. There are so few minerals in our foods as compared to

> the cultures Price looked at...

>

> Just my opinion,

> Becky

>

> > I plan to start trying to conceive this fall (my first), and am

> > planning for a homebirth.

> >

> > I'm curious to know how exactly you consume your brewers yeast. I

> > tried it in my oatmeal, but it's very bitter, and ruined my

meal...

> >

> > Also, I'm thinking of not taking the folic acid supplements, and

> > instead being sure to consume chicken (and other) livers, brewers

> > yeast, wheat germ, greens, etc.

> >

> > Also, all the other great NT foods have been part of the

repertoire

> > for some time now...raw milk, cream, butter, grass-fed meat,

> organic,

> > free-range eggs (which are a brilliant orange these days, I love

> > summer!), organic fruit & veg, the suggested spirulina

> > supplementation, cod liver oil, coconut oil...

> >

> > (With that being said, I do partake in the occasional refined

> > carb/ice cream-type indulgences...but not those made with fake

> fats!)

> >

> > Anyone else skip the prenatal folic acid/multi-vit

supplementation?

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I didn't suplement with calcium and also don't drink raw milk. For health

reasons I'm not eating any dairy except some raw butter oil with this pregnancy

and don't plan to supplement. I do drink herbal infusions which are high in

calcium and eat plenty of calcium rich foods including bone broths.

Native people didn't supplement and some didn't even eat dairy and had strong

healthy children.

Elainie

[Guest guest]

From what I've researched, I felt like a supplement was necessary for

me even though I'm consuming about a quart of raw milk daily also.

I didn't mention it in my previous post, but Adele has a great

book on pregnancy called Lets Have Healthy Children.

Becky

>

> Do you think you need a cal/mag supplement during pregnancy if

you're

> drinking a quart or more a day of raw milk? I've just found out

I'm

> pregnant, fairly new NT follower of a few months. I have good raw

> milk sources and regularly consume a quart or more a day. I was

just

> wrestling with whether or not to supplement cal/mag so interested

in

> what folks think.

>

[Guest guest]

I had my 1st child with a great deal of difficulty. The birth was 67 hours

in duration. I tried to homebirth but ended up with natural vaginal

delivery in hospital using portional epidural and oxytocin. Tore...

Recovery was very slow and even went backwards at stages (vaginal wound

became gangrenous at 5 weeks) I was on a vegetarian diet with soy instead

of milk and avocados for fat. I had the sugar habit from hell and a candida

condition that took 6 months of the " candida diet " to come even close to

balanced digestion wise. This I ignorantly did during breastfeeding and

then went on to feeding my son with soymilk!!! (but that is subject for

another discussion) I was emotionally wrecked (terrified most of the time)

you could say I had post natal depression.

My second child was a much better birth - at home in water delivered by

father without any drugs or interference. I was eating more meat and was

much more nourished at this stage. Still tore but left the wound to heal

itself (no stitches). Although I had new circumstances (much more support -

diffferent father - much better self esteem) I still battled with post natal

depression - of course I did not medicate but I did eat much more meat to

counter act this (from a chinese medicince point of view, PND is due to

" Blood " deficiency).

My third child's birth was a breeze - absolutely beautiful, at home, in

water, father delivered, 4 hours, no tear. During this pregnancy I found

raw milk and consumed it voraciously along with yoghurt but didn't find NT

etc until he was 2 months old. This is a year ago now and I have not only

had NO post natal depression but my overall mothering is more calm and I can

accomplish so much more than ever before. We have very little support for

our parenting now and we cope much better than ever before.

There are a number of emotional patterns that caused my difficulty with

birthing but as they are not relevant to nutrition so much I will not

divulge.

It is great that you know what you know now. Your child is very lucky. None

of my children were immunised and as such have never been to a doctor except

to sign a conscientious objection form which we need to be able to send our

kids to childcares if they re not immunised.

A great adjunct to great nutrition and natural birthing is the lotus

placenta - you may send us an email if you wish to know more

Happy Birthing and many blessings

Joanne

Pregnancy/childbirth on NT

> I would love to hear about anyone's experience with having a child

> while eating an NT type of diet. I'm a few months pregnant with my

> first child and am so excited to be eating this way. I've read

> Weston Price's book and Pottenger's also, and know that nutrition

> during pregnancy can have a profound affect on the child's

> development and the ease of the birth/recovery of the mother. I'd

> love to hear other mother's experiences.....

>

> Also, I'm interested in knowing about any books out there that deal

> with pregnancy/childbirth from an NT perspective. Or any books that

> discuss how more primitive cultures experienced childbirth. One good

> one I've found so far is Nature's children, by tte de Bairacli

> Levy. She talks about the Gypsies and the ease of their births and

> how to raise children more naturally. Any other good books out

> there??

>

> Becky

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Joanne,

That was a great story. I'm having a UC lotus birth as well. My other four

were born at home as well and while the last 2 were born while I was eating a

WAP ish type diet with the last one I had some blood deficiency going on as

well. This time I have it too and use herbs to nourish my blood and chi.

Elainie

[Guest guest]

Joanne, Dr. Buckley has information on lotus birth (she's in Oz too)

you can just type in lotus birth and her articles should appear. I can;t seem

to send links anymore from my puter otherwise I would. The cord/placenta is

kept on until it naturally falls off.

A yoga teacher if mine is writing a book on lotus birth. There is a book out

on lotus birth from Australia.

I have eaten placenta (dried form) and intend to salt mine and dry it and

then consume it to restore my chi after it detaches from baby.

UC refers to childbirth without a midwife/MD present (just husband/family

members).

It sounds like that's what you had your last two births.

Elainie

[Guest guest]

There's also the Birthlove.com site. You do have to become a member. Lots of

great info on there. My birth stories and pictures are up on that site.Lots of

UC births, homebirths etc..

Elainie

[Guest guest]

Hi Elainie

What is UC lotus? Un Cut? how often does this happen in you part of the

globe. We are in Australia and there's not much policital support for

homebirth etc although quite a bit amongst homebirthers. As soon as most

homebirthers hear of my lotus experiences they choose to do this procedure

themselves. Do you have any resource material on lotus placenta?

Incidentally, have any mum's or dad's eaten all or a portion of placenta

post birth. Would love to hear your stories. I salted all three of my

placentas and didn't want to eat it then but knowing what I know now I guess

I could have.

Joanne

Re: Pregnancy/childbirth on NT

> Hi Joanne,

> That was a great story. I'm having a UC lotus birth as well. My other four

> were born at home as well and while the last 2 were born while I was

eating a

> WAP ish type diet with the last one I had some blood deficiency going on

as

> well. This time I have it too and use herbs to nourish my blood and chi.

> Elainie

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[Guest guest]

Becky,

For natural birth stories I don't think you can beat

www.unassistedchildbirth.com. There are many stories right there on the

site.

Rhea

> Or any books that > discuss how more primitive cultures experienced

childbirth. One good > one I've found so far is Nature's children, by

tte de Bairacli > Levy. She talks about the Gypsies and the ease of

their births and > how to raise children more naturally. Any other good

books out > there??

>

> Becky

[Guest guest]

Elainie

I know . We were pregnant together with her third my second. Thanks for

the tip I didn't know she had done so much work since her latest baby. Yes

I was unassisted during last two labours but had a midwife present.

Incredibly rewarding. I have heard stories of women stopping uncontrollable

bleeding after birth by eating just a small portion of the placenta. I

wonder if any one has any idea of this has occurred throughout history in

native cultures.

Joanne

Re: Pregnancy/childbirth on NT

> Joanne, Dr. Buckley has information on lotus birth (she's in Oz

too)

> you can just type in lotus birth and her articles should appear. I can;t

seem

> to send links anymore from my puter otherwise I would. The cord/placenta

is

> kept on until it naturally falls off.

> A yoga teacher if mine is writing a book on lotus birth. There is a book

out

> on lotus birth from Australia.

> I have eaten placenta (dried form) and intend to salt mine and dry it and

> then consume it to restore my chi after it detaches from baby.

> UC refers to childbirth without a midwife/MD present (just husband/family

> members).

> It sounds like that's what you had your last two births.

> Elainie

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